Re: [ZWeb] zope.org domain expired

[Jim Fulton]

Thanks. It's been renewed.

Jim

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> Hi!
>
> No idea if this mail will make it anywhere...
>
> Apparently the domain zope.org expired on 11/27/2015.
>
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[ZWeb] zope.org domain expired

[Sascha Welter]

Hi!

No idea if this mail will make it anywhere...

Apparently the domain zope.org expired on 11/27/2015.

Regards,
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[ZWeb] zope.org down again?

[Sascha Welter]

Hi!

Looks like www.zope.org is down again. I think it's been either down
for some days now or else it's down intermittently (and always when I
looked at it).
It's giving a 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable.

Regards,

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[ZWeb] zope.org down?

[Sascha Welter]

Hi!

Looks like www.zope.org is down for 20 hours or so.
It's giving a 503 temporarily unable to service your request.

Regards,

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

[Jens Vagelpohl]

On Oct 12, 2011, at 16:03 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
 ...
 I suspect there might be releases lurking elsewhere.  I'll run the script
 I used to generate the dump for other parts of the database, just in case.
 
 There were a few releases under Documentation and quite a few under Members.
 
 I've put Documentation.tgz and Members.tgz in app2.zope.org:/home/zope

Thanks Jim. Those files are now stitched into old.zope.org as well.

I'm going to prepare an email to zope-...@zope.org now describing the 
conversion and asking people to check for any files they may depend on 
(buildouts, etc).

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

[Jens Vagelpohl]

Hi Jim,

 Great. I have a 400MB tarball.  I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume you
 have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should
 put it.
 
 As soon as you bring up a static old.zope.org (and switch dns, of course),
 I'll decommission the current machines.

Others have found a serious issue with the static data: Due to the way the 
software release product and folders were structured, the tarball contains no 
Zope release tarballs/exe-files. The tarball URLs end up as folders containing 
the view templates swreleasefile_view and viewMD5.

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

[Jim Fulton]

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:
 Hi Jim,

 Great. I have a 400MB tarball.  I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume you
 have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should
 put it.

 As soon as you bring up a static old.zope.org (and switch dns, of course),
 I'll decommission the current machines.

 Others have found a serious issue with the static data: Due to the way the 
 software release product and folders were structured, the tarball contains no 
 Zope release tarballs/exe-files. The tarball URLs end up as folders 
 containing the view templates swreleasefile_view and viewMD5.

If I can provide a new tar ball that contains just release files in
folders, can you knit it into the static site?

Jim


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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

[Jens Vagelpohl]

On Oct 11, 2011, at 15:45 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 If I can provide a new tar ball that contains just release files in
 folders, can you knit it into the static site?

I think the only way to make them available without breaking all internal links 
to these releases on the static site would be to put them separately and use 
Apache rewrite magic to try and catch any requests for the files themselves, 
which would always end in .../Zope-XXX.[tgz|exe|…]

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

[Jim Fulton]

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Oct 11, 2011, at 15:45 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 If I can provide a new tar ball that contains just release files in
 folders, can you knit it into the static site?

 I think the only way to make them available without breaking all internal 
 links to these releases on the static site would be to put them separately 
 and use Apache rewrite magic to try and catch any requests for the files 
 themselves, which would always end in .../Zope-XXX.[tgz|exe|…]

I think you can write a script that just replaces the goofy
directories with the actual tar balls.

Jim

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

[Jim Fulton]

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Oct 11, 2011, at 16:53 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Oct 11, 2011, at 15:45 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 If I can provide a new tar ball that contains just release files in
 folders, can you knit it into the static site?

 I think the only way to make them available without breaking all internal 
 links to these releases on the static site would be to put them separately 
 and use Apache rewrite magic to try and catch any requests for the files 
 themselves, which would always end in .../Zope-XXX.[tgz|exe|…]

 I think you can write a script that just replaces the goofy
 directories with the actual tar balls.

 But that's not enough. The internal links on the static site point to items 
 *past* the tarball filename, like

 XXX/Zope-2.12.0-final.tgz/swreleasefile_view.

 If I just replace what's currently a folder with the actual tarball I don't 
 need to do any Apache magic and the file will be in the right place, but you 
 cannot navigate to the release file from within the old.zope.org site 
 anymore. The navigation links there will all break.

Can you give an example?

Maybe we need to clean up those links.

Jim


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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

[Jens Vagelpohl]

On Oct 11, 2011, at 17:10 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:
 But that's not enough. The internal links on the static site point to items 
 *past* the tarball filename, like
 
 XXX/Zope-2.12.0-final.tgz/swreleasefile_view.
 
 If I just replace what's currently a folder with the actual tarball I don't 
 need to do any Apache magic and the file will be in the right place, but you 
 cannot navigate to the release file from within the old.zope.org site 
 anymore. The navigation links there will all break.
 
 Can you give an example?

Go to http://old.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.4/ and notice the link URLs for 
the items Zope-2.11.4-final.tgz and Zope-2.11.4-win32.exe.


 Maybe we need to clean up those links.

Yes, that's another option.

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

[Jim Fulton]

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Oct 11, 2011, at 17:10 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:
 But that's not enough. The internal links on the static site point to items 
 *past* the tarball filename, like

 XXX/Zope-2.12.0-final.tgz/swreleasefile_view.

 If I just replace what's currently a folder with the actual tarball I don't 
 need to do any Apache magic and the file will be in the right place, but 
 you cannot navigate to the release file from within the old.zope.org site 
 anymore. The navigation links there will all break.

 Can you give an example?

 Go to http://old.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.4/ and notice the link URLs for 
 the items Zope-2.11.4-final.tgz and Zope-2.11.4-win32.exe.


 Maybe we need to clean up those links.

 Yes, that's another option.

+1 :)

I've created ~zope/Products.tgz on app2.zope.org that has all of the
release files in a directory structure rooted at Products.  I
recommend:

1. For all html files in the existing static site, remove link endings
/swreleasefile_view
2. Walk the directory tree in Products.tgz and for each path, replace
whatever is in
the static site with the contents of the tar ball.

If you don't have time to do this and want to give me access, I can do this.

Jim

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

[Jens Vagelpohl]

Hi Jim,

 Great. I have a 400MB tarball.  I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume you
 have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should
 put it.
 
 As soon as you bring up a static old.zope.org (and switch dns, of course),
 I'll decommission the current machines.

I'll look at it over the next couple days. Thanks!

jens



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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

[Jens Vagelpohl]

On Oct 10, 2011, at 08:57 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

 Hi Jim,
 
 Great. I have a 400MB tarball.  I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume you
 have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should
 put it.
 
 As soon as you bring up a static old.zope.org (and switch dns, of course),
 I'll decommission the current machines.
 
 I'll look at it over the next couple days. Thanks!

Hi Jim,

I've spent a little time looking at the files and doing some cleanup. It works, 
mostly. I've deployed it and changed DNS. Once the DNS change has propagated 
and there is no negative feedback the ZC-hosted version can go away.

Thanks for the tarball!

jens


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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

[Jim Fulton]

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:55 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Oct 10, 2011, at 08:57 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

 Hi Jim,

 Great. I have a 400MB tarball.  I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume 
 you
 have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should
 put it.

 As soon as you bring up a static old.zope.org (and switch dns, of course),
 I'll decommission the current machines.

 I'll look at it over the next couple days. Thanks!

 Hi Jim,

 I've spent a little time looking at the files and doing some cleanup. It 
 works, mostly. I've deployed it and changed DNS. Once the DNS change has 
 propagated and there is no negative feedback the ZC-hosted version can go 
 away.

 Thanks for the tarball!

Thanks for setting up the new old site. :)

Jim

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

[Jim Fulton]

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Aug 18, 2011, at 17:54 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Aug 18, 2011, at 15:45 , Mark W. Alexander wrote:

 It looks like zope.org has moved.

 Congratulations! The new site looks great. I see old.zope.org still comes 
 to
 zope.com's servers. Are there any plans to move or deprecate that content?

 Hi Mark,

 Right now there are no specific plans for old.zope.org. As you can see from 
 looking at the site, we tried to keep content under /Products (e.g. old 
 Zope releases) and under /Members (member content and software) available 
 for the moment since very little of it was migrated to the new site to keep 
 the scope small.

 Can we spider this into a static site?


 Hi Jim,

 I'm sure if all the stuff that's currently public is spidered into a static 
 site no one would complain. There's no specific reason for anyone to log in 
 and access protected content, unless a sysadmin needs to fix something. If 
 it's static I could immediately move it off to one of the ZF-controlled 
 servers, too.

Great. I have a 400MB tarball.  I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume you
have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should
put it.

As soon as you bring up a static old.zope.org (and switch dns, of course),
I'll decommission the current machines.

I'm working on deploying an app for management of user accounts for svn access.

Jim

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

[Jim Fulton]

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com wrote:
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 httrack should be the tool for creating a static site while preserving
 all exisiting URLs.

What incantation should I use?

Why should I use this rather than wget?

Jim

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

[Andreas Jung]

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httrack should be the tool for creating a static site while preserving
all exisiting URLs.

Andreas

Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
 On Aug 18, 2011, at 17:54 , Jim Fulton wrote:
 
 On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jens Vagelpohl
 j...@dataflake.org wrote:
 On Aug 18, 2011, at 15:45 , Mark W. Alexander wrote:
 
 It looks like zope.org has moved.
 
 Congratulations! The new site looks great. I see old.zope.org
 still comes to zope.com's servers. Are there any plans to move
 or deprecate that content?
 Hi Mark,
 
 Right now there are no specific plans for old.zope.org. As you
 can see from looking at the site, we tried to keep content under
 /Products (e.g. old Zope releases) and under /Members (member
 content and software) available for the moment since very little
 of it was migrated to the new site to keep the scope small.
 Can we spider this into a static site?
 
 
 Hi Jim,
 
 I'm sure if all the stuff that's currently public is spidered into a
 static site no one would complain. There's no specific reason for
 anyone to log in and access protected content, unless a sysadmin
 needs to fix something. If it's static I could immediately move it
 off to one of the ZF-controlled servers, too.
 
 jens
 
 
 
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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

[Jim Fulton]

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Aug 18, 2011, at 15:45 , Mark W. Alexander wrote:

 It looks like zope.org has moved.

 Congratulations! The new site looks great. I see old.zope.org still comes to
 zope.com's servers. Are there any plans to move or deprecate that content?

 Hi Mark,

 Right now there are no specific plans for old.zope.org. As you can see from 
 looking at the site, we tried to keep content under /Products (e.g. old Zope 
 releases) and under /Members (member content and software) available for the 
 moment since very little of it was migrated to the new site to keep the scope 
 small.

Can we spider this into a static site?

Jim

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[ZWeb] zope.org filesystem full

[Michael Haubenwallner]

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hi, just got an [Errno 28] No space left on device
when adding a new user account.
Could you please look into this?

Regards
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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org filesystem full

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On Jul 8, 2009, at 10:31 , Michael Haubenwallner wrote:

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 hi, just got an [Errno 28] No space left on device
 when adding a new user account.
 Could you please look into this?

I noticed that there are all kinds of old data files and backups on  
the storage server and have contacted Jim to see what can go. In the  
meantime, I have deleted the Data.fs.old from the last pack so the  
problem should be gone.

jens



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[ZWeb] zope.org slooooww

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zope.org is pretty slow right now (almost unusable). Time for a restart?

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[ZWeb] zope.org hangs

[Christian Theune]

Squid seems to hang waiting for www.zope.org:8881 which currently breaks
buildouts/setuptools that sniff around zope.org

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Re: [ZWeb] [Zope.org Redux] Move to zope-web

[Christophe Combelles]

Ok, I've just subscribed to zope-web.

Christophe

Martin Aspeli a écrit :
 Hi all,
 
 Can we please move our discussions to the standard zope-web mailing
 list? This is in Gmane and I believe nabble as well as on
 lists.zope.org (http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web).
 
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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration

[Jens Vagelpohl]

On Jun 20, 2008, at 06:20 , David Lawson wrote:

Dave, is there a way to go back to the caching configuration that  
existed before the move? The current caching is way too aggressive  
and prevents people from doing any content creation and editing on  
zope.org.


Well.  I had a look and I can certainly see why you've noticed a  
difference.  zope.org, prior to the move, was essentially un- 
cached.  It had a very small cache configured on the children and  
the parents were configured not to cache anything for zope.org at  
all.  We can certainly go back to that configuration if you'd like,  
it's a pretty minimal change.


Please do. A slow zope.org is still better than an unusable  
zope.org. ;-)


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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration

[David Lawson]

On Jun 20, 2008, at 3:14 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:



On Jun 20, 2008, at 06:20 , David Lawson wrote:

Dave, is there a way to go back to the caching configuration that  
existed before the move? The current caching is way too aggressive  
and prevents people from doing any content creation and editing on  
zope.org.


Well.  I had a look and I can certainly see why you've noticed a  
difference.  zope.org, prior to the move, was essentially un- 
cached.  It had a very small cache configured on the children and  
the parents were configured not to cache anything for zope.org at  
all.  We can certainly go back to that configuration if you'd like,  
it's a pretty minimal change.


Please do. A slow zope.org is still better than an unusable  
zope.org. ;-)


Fair enough, I'll have those done for you in a bit.

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration

[Andreas Jung]

--On 15. Juni 2008 13:25:51 +0200 Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




--On 15. Juni 2008 06:16:52 -0500 Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



On Jun 15, 2008, at 06:09 , Andreas Jung wrote:




--On 15. Juni 2008 06:04:37 -0500 Jens Vagelpohl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


IMHO seeing some caching-related issues in exchange
for enjoying a redundantly configured caching tier is a good
tradeoff for
the current site.


The current caching makes it impossible to edit anything on zope.org
in a reasonable way.


I have always been able to work with it using force-reload where
necessary, using Camino or Firefox. I know some other browsers like
Safari don't seem to be able to send a real force-reload, so I gave up on
those for zope.org editing work. I have to admit I have not done any
editing work after this move, but I have been able to log in and get to
folder content views etc with all logged-in options intact and visible.

If you are using a suitable browser that can issue real forced reloads
and you still see a problem let us know, David (or some other ZC SA) will
have to look into it then.


I am always using suitable tools :-) Using Firefox here.

I am logged in as ajung.

http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0
shows up with all Plohn edit options.

http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.10.6/
does not.

Even worser:

wget http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0/folder_contents;

returns the page from the cache rendered within _my_ user context.
That's totally broken :-)





What is the current status of this issue? It can not be that personalized 
content (of authenticated users) is being cached and delivered to the 
outside world. I still can not do anything on zope.org :-



Andreas

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration

[Jens Vagelpohl]

On Jun 19, 2008, at 20:53 , Andreas Jung wrote:


I am logged in as ajung.

http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0
shows up with all Plohn edit options.

http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.10.6/
does not.

Even worser:

wget http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0/folder_contents;

returns the page from the cache rendered within _my_ user context.
That's totally broken :-)



What is the current status of this issue? It can not be that  
personalized content (of authenticated users) is being cached and  
delivered to the outside world. I still can not do anything on  
zope.org :-


I do not know what the status is since I can't touch the caching tier  
and have to rely on ZC admins to fix it. I'm CCing Dave Lawson.


Dave, is there a way to go back to the caching configuration that  
existed before the move? The current caching is way too aggressive and  
prevents people from doing any content creation and editing on zope.org.


Thanks!

jens



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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration

[David Lawson]

On Jun 19, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:



On Jun 19, 2008, at 20:53 , Andreas Jung wrote:


I am logged in as ajung.

http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0
shows up with all Plohn edit options.

http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.10.6/
does not.

Even worser:

wget http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0/folder_contents;

returns the page from the cache rendered within _my_ user context.
That's totally broken :-)



What is the current status of this issue? It can not be that  
personalized content (of authenticated users) is being cached and  
delivered to the outside world. I still can not do anything on  
zope.org :-


I do not know what the status is since I can't touch the caching  
tier and have to rely on ZC admins to fix it. I'm CCing Dave Lawson.


Dave, is there a way to go back to the caching configuration that  
existed before the move? The current caching is way too aggressive  
and prevents people from doing any content creation and editing on  
zope.org.


Well.  I had a look and I can certainly see why you've noticed a  
difference.  zope.org, prior to the move, was essentially un-cached.   
It had a very small cache configured on the children and the parents  
were configured not to cache anything for zope.org at all.  We can  
certainly go back to that configuration if you'd like, it's a pretty  
minimal change.


--Dave
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[ZWeb] zope.org ldap services not working

[Michael Haubenwallner]

http://www.zope.org/mail_password_form returns an error:

  111, 'Connection refused'

when requesting a user password.


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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org ldap services not working

[Jim Fulton]

I think this is actually an SMTP issue.

I'm having no problem accessing ldap queries from the server.

If ldap was the problem, we wouldn't even be able to log in.

Jim

On Jun 18, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Michael Haubenwallner wrote:


http://www.zope.org/mail_password_form returns an error:

 111, 'Connection refused'

when requesting a user password.


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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org ldap services not working

[Jim Fulton]

On Jun 18, 2008, at 11:35 AM, Michael Haubenwallner wrote:


Michael Haubenwallner schrieb:

http://www.zope.org/mail_password_form returns an error:
 111, 'Connection refused'
when requesting a user password.


Now the form returns another error:

 The User ID you entered could not be found.

The user is registered and available from acl_users.

Any ideas?


One of the 2 app servers is having trouble, presumably because it has  
lost it's connection to ldap.


I'm investigating.


Is LDAP down ?



No.

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration

[Andreas Jung]

--On 14. Juni 2008 11:35:46 +0200 Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




--On 13. Juni 2008 04:17:28 -0400 David Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


We've completed the zope.org migration, the site is responding,
mail.zope.org is up and looks to be processing mail, as well as serving
the list archives and all just fine, and I can see people logging in to
cvs so everything looks good.  The instances running www.zope.org  are
more than a bit slow at the moment because they lost their object caches,
so I've got a monitor running on them to put the caches in offline mode
to let the instances recover a bit when they get backed up.  All in all,
while this took a little longer than I was anticipating, it went quite
smoothly.




There is an issue with the catalog queue. Workflow changes and new
objects within the Plone were not reflected directly. So I had to process
the catalog queue manually. The queue said 3 objects in queue. After
processing the queue say empty...going back to the Queue tabs tells me
3 objects in queue...anything missing?



There is also a weird issue with the caching. I am logged in as manager and 
can access all edit features for the 2.11.0 release. Then when switching to 
an older release package in order for copying over a newsitem as template, 
Ihave no options available and treated as anonymous...reloading does not 
help :-


Andreas

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration

[Andreas Jung]

--On 15. Juni 2008 06:04:37 -0500 Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


IMHO seeing some caching-related issues in exchange
for enjoying a redundantly configured caching tier is a good tradeoff for
the current site.


The current caching makes it impossible to edit anything on zope.org in a 
reasonable way.


Andreas

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration

[Jens Vagelpohl]

On Jun 15, 2008, at 06:09 , Andreas Jung wrote:




--On 15. Juni 2008 06:04:37 -0500 Jens Vagelpohl  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



IMHO seeing some caching-related issues in exchange
for enjoying a redundantly configured caching tier is a good  
tradeoff for

the current site.


The current caching makes it impossible to edit anything on zope.org  
in a reasonable way.


I have always been able to work with it using force-reload where  
necessary, using Camino or Firefox. I know some other browsers like  
Safari don't seem to be able to send a real force-reload, so I gave up  
on those for zope.org editing work. I have to admit I have not done  
any editing work after this move, but I have been able to log in and  
get to folder content views etc with all logged-in options intact and  
visible.


If you are using a suitable browser that can issue real forced  
reloads and you still see a problem let us know, David (or some other  
ZC SA) will have to look into it then.


jens



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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration

[Andreas Jung]

--On 15. Juni 2008 06:16:52 -0500 Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Jun 15, 2008, at 06:09 , Andreas Jung wrote:




--On 15. Juni 2008 06:04:37 -0500 Jens Vagelpohl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


IMHO seeing some caching-related issues in exchange
for enjoying a redundantly configured caching tier is a good
tradeoff for
the current site.


The current caching makes it impossible to edit anything on zope.org
in a reasonable way.


I have always been able to work with it using force-reload where
necessary, using Camino or Firefox. I know some other browsers like
Safari don't seem to be able to send a real force-reload, so I gave up on
those for zope.org editing work. I have to admit I have not done any
editing work after this move, but I have been able to log in and get to
folder content views etc with all logged-in options intact and visible.

If you are using a suitable browser that can issue real forced reloads
and you still see a problem let us know, David (or some other ZC SA) will
have to look into it then.


I am always using suitable tools :-) Using Firefox here.

I am logged in as ajung.

http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0
shows up with all Plohn edit options.

http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.10.6/
does not.

Even worser:

wget http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0/folder_contents;

returns the page from the cache rendered within _my_ user context.
That's totally broken :-)

Andreas






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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration

[Andreas Jung]

--On 13. Juni 2008 04:17:28 -0400 David Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


We've completed the zope.org migration, the site is responding,
mail.zope.org is up and looks to be processing mail, as well as serving
the list archives and all just fine, and I can see people logging in to
cvs so everything looks good.  The instances running www.zope.org  are
more than a bit slow at the moment because they lost their object caches,
so I've got a monitor running on them to put the caches in offline mode
to let the instances recover a bit when they get backed up.  All in all,
while this took a little longer than I was anticipating, it went quite
smoothly.




There is an issue with the catalog queue. Workflow changes and new objects 
within the Plone were not reflected directly. So I had to process the 
catalog queue manually. The queue said 3 objects in queue. After 
processing the queue say empty...going back to the Queue tabs tells me 3 
objects in queue...anything missing?


Andreas

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[ZWeb] zope.org migration

[David Lawson]

We've completed the zope.org migration, the site is responding,  
mail.zope.org is up and looks to be processing mail, as well as  
serving the list archives and all just fine, and I can see people  
logging in to cvs so everything looks good.  The instances running www.zope.org 
 are more than a bit slow at the moment because they lost their  
object caches, so I've got a monitor running on them to put the caches  
in offline mode to let the instances recover a bit when they get  
backed up.  All in all, while this took a little longer than I was  
anticipating, it went quite smoothly.


--Dave
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540-361-1722
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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[ZWeb] zope.org member registration temporary disabled

[Michael Haubenwallner]

FYI, i've just disabled the member registration on zope.org.

This is a temporary measure against the current creation of arbitray 
accounts. I'll open registration after the weekend again, lets hope the 
spammers have moved on then.


If you realy need an account now, drop me a mail.

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org wiki without cookies?

[Christian Theune]

Hi,

Simon Michael wrote:
 Hi Christian, all
 
 Zwiki always tried to keep login effort to a minimum; until now, the 
 lightweight optional username cookie has been enough. (It's no longer 
 optional on wiki.zope.org of course.)
 
 There has been talk of moving up to the next level, ie some kind of real 
 authentication and member management, partly prompted by one or two 
 persistent vandal incidents (swiftly reverted by Michael H.). I'm undecided 
 myself, but do you have any ideas for a good, low-labour setup ?
 
 I'm aware of two Zope 2 products that manage membership - Plone and the 
 venerable exUserFolder.

I guess todays answer is 'PAS'.

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org wiki without cookies?

[Simon Michael]

Hi Christian, all

Zwiki always tried to keep login effort to a minimum; until now, the 
lightweight optional username cookie has been enough. (It's no longer 
optional on wiki.zope.org of course.)


There has been talk of moving up to the next level, ie some kind of real 
authentication and member management, partly prompted by one or two 
persistent vandal incidents (swiftly reverted by Michael H.). I'm undecided 
myself, but do you have any ideas for a good, low-labour setup ?


I'm aware of two Zope 2 products that manage membership - Plone and the 
venerable exUserFolder.


-Simon


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[ZWeb] zope.org home page content

[Kevin Teague]

It would be great to make some updates to some of the text and top  
level pages on zope.org.


I would suggest something like this for the main content:

Welcome to the Zope Community site
--
Zope 2 is a complete application server. It includes an embedded  
object database, a declarative security model,  and a publisher that  
can serve content via HTTP, FTP and WebDAV. It has a mature and  
robust code base that has been in existence since 1999.


Zope 3 is a from the ground up rewrite, and focuses on using the Zope  
3 component architecture to allow developers to build truly  
extensible, highly testable web applications.


Zope is open source and is written in Python, the dynamic object- 
oriented programming language.



Zope For


(I'm not sure what to do here, hopefullly get these links updated  
over time? or scratch this section? some of these links are really  
old. The target groups could be reworked if we want to keep this  
section, and it should be listed once for Zope 2 content and again  
for Zope 3 content)


What You can do on Zope.org


(I would delete this section. Having users be able to join a web site  
and contribute content was novel a few years ago, but is generally  
taken for granted today.)



Zope Training
--

(This should just link to the training page, the note about sending  
training announcements to [EMAIL PROTECTED] could be put on that  
page. BTW only the CIGNEX link works, all the training links that  
point to zope.com are 404)


Plone Training


(The Plone web team is sufficiently mobilized to be able to list  
their own training announcements).


New Content:

We should list  some applications written in Zope, and some  
organizations using it. Plone, Silva, others?



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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org home page content

[Simon Michael]

+1

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[ZWeb] zope.org frontpage modifications

[Michael Haubenwallner]

for the records, a few changes have been made recently:

zope.org frontpage
- left column
  replaced 'Zope Exits' with 'Zope Sites', now links to
  http://zopewiki.org/Sites (anyone can add links and reorganize)
- center column:
  added the first paragraph from MembersFAQ to fill the space
  betweem 'Zope for...' and the Zope/Plone training announcements
- right column:
  added a 'Planets' section on top of the sidebar
featuring planet.zope.org and planet.plone.org
- any other planets to include there ?
  changed the number of NewsItems in the 'News' section
from 7 to 5

zope.org/Wikis
- each ZWikiPage under that folder now has a message
  describing its 'read-only' state and the move
  to the new location at http://wiki.zope.org/...
  - the message is inserted into the
'header/portal_message' macro
called by main_template

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org frontpage modifications

[Andrew Sawyers]

Any reason why we don't want to just do a permanent redirect from old wikis
to new wikis?

Andrew


On 10/26/06 4:18 AM, Michael Haubenwallner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 for the records, a few changes have been made recently:
 
 zope.org frontpage
 - left column
replaced 'Zope Exits' with 'Zope Sites', now links to
http://zopewiki.org/Sites (anyone can add links and reorganize)
 - center column:
added the first paragraph from MembersFAQ to fill the space
betweem 'Zope for...' and the Zope/Plone training announcements
 - right column:
added a 'Planets' section on top of the sidebar
  featuring planet.zope.org and planet.plone.org
  - any other planets to include there ?
changed the number of NewsItems in the 'News' section
  from 7 to 5
 
 zope.org/Wikis
 - each ZWikiPage under that folder now has a message
describing its 'read-only' state and the move
to the new location at http://wiki.zope.org/...
- the message is inserted into the
  'header/portal_message' macro
  called by main_template
 
 Michael


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[ZWeb] zope.org dns

[Chris Withers]

Hi All,

Summary of current status on DNS...

I've just updated the zonedit contact details to point to:
http://groups.google.com/group/zopeorg-dns

This is a private, members only group and I've invited all relevant 
people to the group. If I've left anyone out, please let me know. If 
you've got an invite, please join up ;-)


I'm tempted to email this zoneedit username and password to the google 
group so that it's not locked away in several people's mail accounts. 
How do people feel about this?


Am I right in assuming that:

- zope.org whois records are now correct and, nameserver wise, point to:

  Name Server:NS1.ZONEEDIT.COM
  Name Server:NS7.ZONEEDIT.COM

  I'll note that I currently see the old list, but I'm assuming this is
  a propogation issue and I just need to wait?

- zonedit is going to be our only DNS host and all its records are
  currently correct, we're just waiting for them to propogate?

cheers,

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org dns

[Christian Theune]

Hi,

Chris Withers wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Summary of current status on DNS...
 
 I've just updated the zonedit contact details to point to:
 http://groups.google.com/group/zopeorg-dns
 
 This is a private, members only group and I've invited all relevant
 people to the group. If I've left anyone out, please let me know. If
 you've got an invite, please join up ;-)
 
 I'm tempted to email this zoneedit username and password to the google
 group so that it's not locked away in several people's mail accounts.
 How do people feel about this?
 
 Am I right in assuming that:
 
 - zope.org whois records are now correct and, nameserver wise, point to:
 
   Name Server:NS1.ZONEEDIT.COM
   Name Server:NS7.ZONEEDIT.COM
 
   I'll note that I currently see the old list, but I'm assuming this is
   a propogation issue and I just need to wait?

For me, this morning DNS seems to be back to normal, the changes
appeared in my machines and are effective.

Thanks for getting back to normal to everyone who helped.

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org dns

[Jim Fulton]

Christian Theune wrote:
...

Thanks for getting back to normal to everyone who helped.


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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org dns

[Jens Vagelpohl]

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Am I right in assuming that:

- zope.org whois records are now correct and, nameserver wise,  
point to:


  Name Server:NS1.ZONEEDIT.COM
  Name Server:NS7.ZONEEDIT.COM

  I'll note that I currently see the old list, but I'm assuming  
this is

  a propogation issue and I just need to wait?


Go to http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jsp to find out.  
The changes Rob said he made yesterday are not showing yet. I don't  
know how long it takes for that kind of change to go through. Once  
those changes are visible only ns1/ns7.zoneedit.com will show.



- zonedit is going to be our only DNS host and all its records are
  currently correct, we're just waiting for them to propogate?


We're mainly waiting for the registrar changes to go through because  
3 out of 5 DNS servers that are part of the old records either send  
out incorrect data (ns.qutang.net) or they don't know records like  
foundation.zope.org (ns2.zope.com, ns3.zope.com, ns.qutang.net).


jens



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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org dns

[Jens Vagelpohl]

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On 13 Oct 2006, at 09:25, David Lawson wrote:
Speaking of this, since only the ZoneEdit servers are going to be  
listed as authoritative for this zone, once the changes propagate,  
shall we just shut down serving DNS for zope.org from the zope.com  
DNS servers?  Or would you prefer that we remain as a slave and we  
just work out the NOTIFY nonsense later?


Apparently zoneedit does not do NOTIFY - IMHO a huge drawback that  
necessitates scripting or manual pulling of data.


Once the WHOIS record changes have propagated the zope.com servers  
can basically go away, but please leave them on until then. Actually,  
if you have a second, could you add a record for foundation.zope.org  
(63.240.213.174) or pull down the current data from zoneedit and feed  
it into ns2/ns3.zope.com?


jens


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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org dns

[Chris Withers]

Jim Fulton wrote:

Chris Withers wrote:
...
I'm tempted to email this zoneedit username and password to the google 
group so that it's not locked away in several people's mail accounts. 
How do people feel about this?


It makes me feel uncomfortable. :)


No worries, that's fine, I think enough people have the zoneedit details 
to be safe.


If you'd like them too, just lemme know and I'll forward 'em on...

Chris

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[ZWeb] zope.org

[Chris Withers]

Gaute Amundsen wrote:
Actually, I am starting to think there should be a big notice on the frontpage 
of the http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ section saying:


don't bother with this, just read the source


There's actually some merit to this, anyone mind if I implement?

0.5 wink

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[ZWeb] zope.org portal_catalog queue hanging

[Michael Haubenwallner]

The Zope.org portal_catalog queue is hanging again

Thanks for looking into this
Michael

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org portal_catalog queue hanging

[Jens Vagelpohl]

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On 28 Aug 2006, at 13:22, Michael Haubenwallner wrote:


The Zope.org portal_catalog queue is hanging again


There was a stale lockfile again, and there's no obvious warning (and  
not even a working event log) for the instance that handles it.


I have also changed the catalog configuration to immediately catalog  
everything that is not a TextIndex. There's no sane reason to wait  
with cataloging for indices that are either fast to catalog or  
relevant to security (allowedRolesAndUsers).


jens


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Re: [ZWeb] Zope.org QueuedCatalog

[Jens Vagelpohl]

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On 26 Jul 2006, at 09:39, Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
I had to process the queue by hand a few times today, think it is  
the cronjob after all. I'll send a mail to sysadmin.
Do you have an idea how that job is run and on what machines? I'm  
at ZC now and I can ask them to give me access.


Sorry no, you'll have to check with [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I found it. What a mess. There was a lock file in the way for the  
queue flusher. I cannot even figure out where that instance logs to  
so the diagnosis is simpler next time. That whole setup needs to go  
into the trash.


jens


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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org misused for Pharmaceuticals

[Michael Haubenwallner]

Andreas Jung wrote:
 Since some days I have seen several member accounts being used as
 platform for pharmaceutical ads...what can we do against this?
 Would it make sense to revoke the View permission from Authenticated
 users for unpublished content?

 ANdreas


I check new and edited objects on a daily basis and delete ad-content 
and in severe cases disable member accounts.


Authenticated users should not be able to view objects in private state.

If you have a few seconds join me in #zope-web.

Michael

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[ZWeb] Zope.org site issues

[David Lawson]

Is anyone still experiencing problems with the zope.org site  
redirecting to zope.com?  Could you let me know off list if you are,  
please?  Thanks.


--Dave Lawson
Systems Administrator
Zope Corp.
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