Martijn Faassen wrote:
Just to drop a note that I think a discussion about a potential brand
name for Zope 3 is far less important than actually fixing our website
and presenting Zope 3 (and Zope 2 for that matter) in a better way.
Perhaps we can better redirect our energies to that than to
On Feb 11, 2006, at 11:48 PM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
[...]
Indeed. Plus, I strongly feel that pushing Zope 3 more than Zope 2 or
viceversa isn't helping. We need to push Zope-the-technology and
Zope-the-community. Branding Zope 3 and making it look like something
separate now when
Gary Poster wrote:
On Feb 11, 2006, at 11:48 PM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
[...]
Indeed. Plus, I strongly feel that pushing Zope 3 more than Zope 2 or
viceversa isn't helping. We need to push Zope-the-technology and
Zope-the-community. Branding Zope 3 and making it look like something
Shane Hathaway wrote:
Alexander Limi wrote:
+1. Zope^3 is visually interesting enough, and geeky enough.
While procrastinating Real Work, I played with a logo based on this
idea. It's very rough--a more refined version would probably eliminate
the 3D effects. But it's something to talk
Alexander Limi wrote:
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 00:32:52 -0800, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Like it or not, Zope (2) seems to have a lot of stigma out there; Zope
3 has been around a while. In actual fact, for a while I thought Zope
3.x was still just unfinished vapourware, waiting for
On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 03:16:22 -0800, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Zope X3 is the next major Zope release and has been written from
scratch based on the latest software design patterns and the experiences
of Zope 2. The X in the name stands for experimental, since this
release
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 03:37:45PM -0700, Shane Hathaway wrote:
Alexander Limi wrote:
The original discussion never suggested code names for releases, but a
brand name to help Zope 3 separate itself from Zope 2 - since it is a
*completely* different beast.
Random thought... hehe... Zope
On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 00:59 -0500, Fred Drake wrote:
So why not say it's about XP and make it Zope XP 3.x.y?
It sounds too much 'Windows XP' like for my taste.
Alen
___
Zope3-dev mailing list
Zope3-dev@zope.org
Unsub:
On Feb 7, 2006, at 5:19 AM, Stephan Richter wrote:
On Tuesday 07 February 2006 05:09, Jeff Shell wrote:
Alright, I've stayed up way too late on this.
Jeff,
you always make great points! I would like to nominate you as the
Zope 3
Propaganda Minister! :-) No seriously, you have a great way
On 2/7/06, Jeff Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Something that I admire about Ruby on Rails, Django, MochiKit, and
TurboGears all is that they're opinionated, proud of it, clear in
their message, and all seem to have a similar degree of respect for
simplicity and communication.
Hi!
Just a
Alexander Limi wrote:
3.x was still just unfinished vapourware, waiting for the fabled Zope2
integration (the dropping of the X) that people were talking about.
The way it was done was also incredibly unprofessional and created a lot
of confusion:
Oh don't be so rediculous. No-one ever said
On 2/7/06, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. This is new different platform, based on Zope ideas but with
absolutely different code bases
Indeed. This is why I think that if a proper moniker (e.g. Zope3 Zimba)
would be better.
No, it would only make people go What, first Zope 2,
Lennart Regebro wrote:
On 2/7/06, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, it would only make people go What, first Zope 2, then Zope 3, now
Zope Zimba? thinking it's three different things.
But always writing it Zope3 might be helpful.
Telling that there is a difference between Zope 2
On Monday 06 February 2006 20:49, Gary Poster wrote:
How about we have a marketing competition? :-)
+1 from me plus everything else you said below.
Regards,
Stephan
--
Stephan Richter
CBU Physics Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student)
Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and
Stephan Richter wrote:
On Monday 06 February 2006 20:49, Gary Poster wrote:
How about we have a marketing competition? :-)
+1 from me plus everything else you said below.
Yep, it's a good idea.
--Paul
___
Zope3-dev mailing list
Hi there,
Gary Poster wrote:
[competition]
+1. I think the requirement to have enough people submitting is very
important, though. No competition anounced unless we get some idea that
we'll actually have enough competitors, otherwise we end up looking
silly (what happened to the Zope
On 2/6/06, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guys ... from my reading of the z3-user discussion, there were two subtly
different things that came out:
- Have funky release codenames. Okay, good - makes it easier to talk
about Zope 3.2 vs. 3.3. However, I think this is secondary (by
On Tuesday 07 February 2006 05:09, Jeff Shell wrote:
Alright, I've stayed up way too late on this.
Jeff,
you always make great points! I would like to nominate you as the Zope 3
Propaganda Minister! :-) No seriously, you have a great way of explaining
why Zope 3 is better than the latest
Stephan Richter wrote:
On Tuesday 07 February 2006 05:09, Jeff Shell wrote:
Alright, I've stayed up way too late on this.
Jeff,
you always make great points! I would like to nominate you as the Zope 3
Propaganda Minister! :-) No seriously, you have a great way of explaining
why Zope
On Tuesday 07 February 2006 05:42, Igor Stroh wrote:
Just curious - has anyone already thought about the ressource organization?
Is there any place we can paste our marketing slogans into? Some
repository which could host design proposals for the brand new Zope3
advocay site?
Join the
Hj Jeff,
Okay - I'd like to restate my position. :-)
I think you're right - having different names for each release (Zope 3.2 = Blah, Zope 3.3 = Foo) *is* a bad idea, it creates confusion, especially in a framework with frequent releases. So -1 on that from me from now on. :)
However...
Jeff
Ursprüngliche Nachricht
Tue, 7 Feb 2006 11:01:23 +0100
von: Martijn Faassen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alternatively, we could use our energy to actually work together on a
new website instead of competing. There's a zope-web mailing list, after
all, so go and talk there. This would have my
Max M wrote:
Martijn Faassen wrote:
Alternatively, we could use our energy to actually work together on a
new website instead of competing. There's a zope-web mailing list,
after all, so go and talk there. This would have my preference.
If you want to fix the Zope 2 website at the same time
Martijn Faassen wrote:
Max M wrote:
Martijn Faassen wrote:
Alternatively, we could use our energy to actually work together on
a new website instead of competing. There's a zope-web mailing list,
after all, so go and talk there. This would have my preference.
If you want to fix the Zope
Mikhail Kashkin wrote:
2. When users searchin' in search engines 'Zope 3', Google or other
throw away 3 and search only for Zope
Google doesn't throw away the 3.
--
Benji York
Senior Software Engineer
Zope Corporation
___
Zope3-dev mailing list
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 03:09:01AM -0700, Jeff Shell wrote:
and this, which I absolutely love:
http://www.python.org/doc/2.4/whatsnew/whatsnew24.html
+1. I think we really need something like that.
I know that even I would care a lot less about new Python releases if
--
Paul Winkler
Tarek Ziadé wrote:
Martijn Faassen wrote:
Yes. Rest assured my ambition is to keep ambitions as low as possible.
:) Otherwise nothing will happen.
The front page of Zope.org doesn't show the activity around Z3 at all.
That wouln't cost anything to start to add a few z3 links in Zope Exits
You're right, googling Zope 3 works well surprisingly enough.
For the record, I'm +.9 on sticking with Zope 3 for the moment, not
ruling out adding a codename or marketing tagline in future if we found
one that really fit. There *is* some bad feeling associated with Zope
- but also a lot of
On 2/7/06, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 07 February 2006 05:09, Jeff Shell wrote:
Alright, I've stayed up way too late on this.
Jeff,
you always make great points! I would like to nominate you as the Zope 3
Propaganda Minister! :-) No seriously, you have a great way
Jeff Shell wrote:
Beyond that, I think that 'Zope 3' is a good looking set of characters
and can be a strong brand in and of itself. Just always, always,
always refer to it as Zope 3. It doesn't need to be Zope on Zydeco or
something like that. 'Zope 3' has a lot of strong brand potential.
It's
Mikhail Kashkin wrote:
1. This is new different platform, based on Zope ideas but with
absolutely different code bases
2. When users searchin' in search engines 'Zope 3', Google or other
throw away 3 and search only for Zope
3. Zope3 (or zope3) is more pythonic, you cann't name your module
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:37:08 -0800, Fred Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/7/06, Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As I said before, I'm +0 on enhancing the brand,
-1 on adding release codenames.
IMO codenames make it harder, not easier, to talk about releases.
Which came first -
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 00:32:52 -0800, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Like it or not, Zope (2) seems to have a lot of stigma out there; Zope 3
has been around a while. In actual fact, for a while I thought Zope 3.x
was still just unfinished vapourware, waiting for the fabled Zope2
Alexander Limi wrote:
The original discussion never suggested code names for releases, but a
brand name to help Zope 3 separate itself from Zope 2 - since it is a
*completely* different beast.
Random thought... hehe... Zope Cubed. It's only a typographical change
from Zope 3. The tagline
On 2/8/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, but then we end up with Zope3 3.2.5, which is exactly what caused
us to drop the X3 previously ;-)
Thinking about the X it is unfortunate it was used to indicate
compatibility with Zope2 and the experimental version of Zope. It was
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 14:37:45 -0800, Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Alexander Limi wrote:
The original discussion never suggested code names for releases, but a
brand name to help Zope 3 separate itself from Zope 2 - since it is a
*completely* different beast.
Random
On 2/7/06, Alen Stanisic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
upcoming marketing campaign :). The X can send this message better
than any other single character and it's not as obtrusive as adding or
changing a name. I believe to certain extent there is already
understanding out there that X could mean
2006/2/7, Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Alexander Limi wrote:
The original discussion never suggested code names for releases, but a
brand name to help Zope 3 separate itself from Zope 2 - since it is a
*completely* different beast.
Random thought... hehe... Zope Cubed. It's only a
On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 17:27:43 -, Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Stephan Richter wrote:
On Friday 03 February 2006 12:14, Shane Hathaway wrote:
Andreas Zeidler wrote:
On Fri, Feb 03 17:24, Encolpe Degoute [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Zope 3 / Revolution ?
well, how about
On Feb 6, 2006, at 5:37 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote:
[...]
This is about getting people to *understand* what Zope is about, to
understand that we *care* that they understand and that we made an
*effort* to make it easy for them to get into it. It's about
lowering the barrier to entry and the
40 matches
Mail list logo
