Good news! Because Ice is under my care ;) I guess it might be a limitation or a defect.
Will get back to you guys soon! Chris Sent from my iPhone On 15 Aug, 2012, at 6:55 PM, "Peter Agg" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: No, nothing broke - it's always been a 'feature'. :) On 15 August 2012 11:52, Chris Chia <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Oh no, I guess I have missed out on that. Will try to reproduce it when I get to my workstation. Do you guys mean that something broke in 2013SP1? Or has it been there before? Chris Sent from my iPhone On 15 Aug, 2012, at 6:00 PM, "Peter Agg" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: Chris, It's not quite so perfect once you have separate sim and render scenes and separate instance and fx models. I mean, it might work, but in those situations it's pretty rare in my experience. On 15 August 2012 10:46, Chris Chia <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: Hi Dominik, It is working perfectly (both in Cache Manager and Cache-On-File node). Not a bug! 1. For cache manager, 2. Select the pointcloud you wish to cache. 3. Use cache manager with the WRITE tab . 4. Make sure you have Added the Selection “pointcloud” to the list of objects you wish to cache. 5. Also make sure that the “Shape” attribute is chosen ToCache. 6. Write Cache! 7. Create new pointcloud and Use cache manager with the READ tab and choose the right settings. Ps: don’t run away to alternatives when you encounter some problem. It could be an easy fix ;) Chris From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>] On Behalf Of Dominik Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 6:06 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: InstanceShape not cached correctly with 2013 Sp1 Thx Rob for the reply, We finally switched to alembic until the next wall :). I keep the idea in my bag for when I'll have to face the next project with Icecache ;). Cheer! Dominik Kirouac // SHED 3D Artist / FX - SIMULATION 1410, RUE STANLEY, 11E ÉTAGE MONTRÉAL (QUÉBEC) H3A 1P8 T 514 849-1555<tel:514%20849-1555><tel:514%20849-1555><tel:514%20849-1555> F 514 849-5025<tel:514%20849-5025><tel:514%20849-5025><tel:514%20849-5025> WWW.SHEDMTL.COM<http://WWW.SHEDMTL.COM><http://WWW.SHEDMTL.COM><http://www.shedmtl.com/> On 8/14/2012 3:20 PM, Rob Chapman wrote: also.. are you positive your attributes you say you wanted cached and need for the correct ID transfer *are* actually being cached? could be a little 'force attribute cache' may be needed to coerce ICE into doing what you ask. http://www.andynicholas.com/?p=360 its pretty easy to check if your cache has cached ID and Shape or not with get > set data and show values. On 14 August 2012 20:12, Rob Chapman <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote: ah Arnold, I see because fixing the instance shape after the cache applied has always happened for me when transferring to a new scene, its simple to fix and has always worked. normally Its just a pointer to which object to pick in a group. Think we have had some luck in the past with exporting a model with the instance shapes & pointcloud inside, exported/cached in a certain way it does keep a link between scenes but can't remember the exact details as it was hit or miss when we found what works. someone might have a better memory than me... Cristobel! there does seem to be an invisible pointer or link that gets lost when loading caches into new scenes. its odd that specifying the instances after the cache applied should not work in Arrnold though as I'm fairly certain that you can do this. may be something else? On 14 August 2012 19:37, Dominik <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote: Thanks Peter and Bradley for the help. It looks like forcing the instance shape after the load cache op work in mental ray but not in Arnold. At least for my scene and in 2013. On 8/14/2012 12:25 PM, Peter Agg wrote: iirc Instance shapes are stored using the ObjectID, something which doesn't stay consistent across scenes. You'll have to come up with a way of storing the shape using other data. What I've done in the past is to store the index number you used to pick from a group, cache that and use it to reapply the same shape in the cache. That or I've given each instance object and ID number of my own using a custom parameter. Either way, basically you can't trust XSI to reconnect things. On 14 August 2012 17:15, Dominik <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote: Hey list, I really need help with this one! In Softimage 2013 sp1, Did someone encounter problems with cached instance shapes? It seems that If I use a simple setup like this one: -emit from geometry, set instance shape (select a cube), simulate particles -Cache using the cache manager (or cache on file node), put all the attributes in the cache. When I reload the cache file in another scene, the shape doesn't seem to be applied (even if the Master instances are present in the scene, in the right place). If I use the automatic type in the display, I can see the bounding box grow, If I set it to anything else, I can see the point position. Looks like the position, size, velocity... everything else seem to be saved but the instance shape. I even tried to force it with an Ice Tree on top of the cache but no such luck... Is this a bug in 2013 ? Any help will be welcomed ! Dominik Kirouac // SHED 3D Artist / FX - SIMULATION 1410, RUE STANLEY, 11E ÉTAGE MONTRÉAL (QUÉBEC) H3A 1P8 T 514 849-1555<tel:514%20849-1555><tel:514%20849-1555><tel:514%20849-1555> F 514 849-5025<tel:514%20849-5025><tel:514%20849-5025><tel:514%20849-5025> WWW.SHEDMTL.COM<http://WWW.SHEDMTL.COM><http://WWW.SHEDMTL.COM><http://www.shedmtl.com/>
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