on 11/12/02 5:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Be careful of running Gauge Pro with all of your RAM slots filled with 128MB
> sticks, it will cause the machine to crash (not sure why- but has been
> verified by myself and several other list members in the past).  Not sure if
> this also happens in TTPro as I don't have a recent version, but know that
> the XLR8 PowerControl utility is fine in this regard, so used it mostly to
> test my S900s full of RAM.  Unfortunately though XLR8's software is not
> freeware/shareware and only comes with one of their upgrades.
> 
> While I am on the topic I have two full complements of 128 MB RAM for my two
> S900s, all from OWC.  One set is all EDO and one set all FPM.  One machine
> runs fine with either set or mix thereof and tests the RAM as fine for all
> sticks (using the RAM sandwich rotation) and 24 to 48 hours of testing each
> time with XLR8 PowerControl.  The other machine, will run fine and test the
> RAM fine with any of the RAM test utilities with any 7 sticks from any set,
> but put in an 8th stick from either set and it freezes just after startup,
> before even running a RAM testing utility (OS 9.1, as on the other S900,
> even tried swapping identical startup HDs and PCI cards between machines and
> even running with just the video card and no other PCI cards in).  Doesn't
> seem to be specific to the last RAM slot either, as rotating any 7 sticks
> around any of the RAM slots causes a functional non-crashing S900, that
> tests all of the RAM fine with the utilities as long as there are only 7
> sticks.  This one has had me puzzled for a long time, but just put it down
> to the individual quirkiness that seems to be a part of these machines.
> Would be nice to work out why, but has taken more time than its worth
> already plugging, pulling and testing.  Any novel ideas welcome, though.
> 
> Cheers, Pete.
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:21:59 -0800
>> From: Howie S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [SM] Memory questions
>> 
>> on 11/10/02 2:44 PM, Gregg Gorrie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> After the recent posts regarding RAM/RAM testing, I decided to test my RAM
>>> using TechTool Pro 3. Two evenings in a row I have run a full test
>>> overnight, and both times I have awoken to find the machine locked up about
>>> 70-80% through the Minor March test. Only a "hard" boot will revive the
>>> machine. I did another test with everything checked *except* Minor March and
>>> Major March tests, and everything passed OK. As an aside, I tested this RAM
>>> with Ramometer several months ago and it passed through several thousand
>>> iterations without a problem.
>>> Any thoughts on this?
>> 
>> TechTool could've crashed for other reasons than bad memory, but perhaps it
>> would be a good idea to test it with the latest version of Gauge Pro. I
>> realize it's just a another build of Ramometer, but it may be newer. You can
>> get it here...
> 
sounds like bus loading, i think there is something in a s900 datasheet some
place, that states they missed the term resistors off the bus to save money,
and the capacitance of memory boards causes ringing of the bus.
steve





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