On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:10:55 -0400, Dennis Nezic wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 23:55:18 +0400, Volodya wrote:
> > You misunderstood the poll question. Nobody is suggesting that
> > freesites should be allowed to have JS in them, but rather Freenet's
> > own web proxy would have JS in the interface. That JS would only be
> > written by those same developers who today write Java code for Freenet
> > already.
> 
> We know, but it's still asking for "oops"es as mentioned earlier. Who
> knows how each JavaScript implementation handles it's caches and
> temporary stuff. Who knows how other malicious sites will be able to
> manage to access this stuff. (Nobody now, probably, but I think it's
> perfectly possible that it will happen.)

I second this.


> Also, "pretty" is very subjective. ...
> And that's assuming the stuff works in the first place--many times it
> doesn't--probably due to a broken or sloppy implementation. Freenet's
> "UI" is mainly supposed to be the actual Freesites. The purpose of all
> this potential scripting is simply to make newbies aware that pictures
> (and less popular freesites) take a while to load. Is a complete new
> framework really necessary to simply let newbies know things are still
> being fetched in the background? Is a simple html self-refreshing page,
> with a list of freesite-fetches in progress not good enough?
> 
> If more ambitious UI features are planned, I would still avoid using
> JavaScript. ... Not a flaky scripting-hack of webpages which were never
> designed to behave like apps in the first place.

And this, too.


Personally, I never had a problem using freenets interface.

IMHO, making it "more user friendly" targets the wrong audience - all 
those IT-handicapped dumba**** who barely can switch their PC on/off.
They wouldn't understand ..
- what freenet is in general (shows in some posts on this list every 
couple of weeks..)
- why Js is allowed and deemed "perfectly *cough* save" for freenet, 
when you can read everywhere that JS is so dangerous (IF they do read 
such things at all ... )
- why the freepages still look so butt-ugly, when they could use nifty 
JS navigation bars (told you they won't see the difference; => see that 
recent post which didn't differentiate between Java and JS ...)

 .. etc...

You know what? 
Why don't you do a freenet-browser in Java ?!? Than there's anything 
you want - nice GUI, and complete control 'bout what freesites can 
use/do. Oh, and DAUs (dumb a** users) don't have to point their 
browsers at 127.0.0.1:8888, what is way to difficult for them to 
understand anyway.

yours
A.
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