>Thanks Bob, you're absolutely correct. And the interest I asked you whether you shouldn't be declaring Dan?
Keith >Dan >-----Original Message----- >From: bmolloy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 9:16 PM >To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [biofuel] wondering about this comment > >Hi Hakan, > With respect to you and Dan, this is a biofuels group, >not a political discussion seminar. If all the hot air generated by the >Israeli/Arab question were bottled and pipe-fed worldwide we'd could >close this chatline and run our vehicles forever on the energy. >For the record, the State of Israel is not recognised by any Arab nation >other than Egypt. Worse, they have official policies in place to destroy >it. >Whatever your view you can only join one side or the other. Allotting >blame is pointless. The war, which started with Abraham and his >sheepherders moving into Canaan (Israel) some 4,000 years ago, will >continue until one side or the other runs out of motivation (i.e.dollars >or energy). >Until then, let's get back to biofuels. >Regards to you both. >Bob. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Hakan Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 1:12 PM >Subject: RE: [biofuel] wondering about this comment > > > > > > Dan, > > > > I fail to see how you can make such an answer to what I said. What you >are > > saying have nothing at all to do with the issues that I bring up in my > > posting. This about most inhabited part of the country, have you ever >been > > visiting Israel? Do you really understand the geography and can you >get > > further away from Palestinians, than this corner part of Golan heights >and > > Lebanese/Syrian border? Why do you have to say this ignorant things, >it > > attacks my naive beliefs on the superior human intellect. > > > > Hakan > > > > > > At 19:10 15/06/2004, you wrote: > > > > >I visited Israel recently and toured the Golan among other places. >The > > >Golan is the perfect place for anyone bent on the destruction of >Israel > > >(like Syria professes to be) to possess so that they can just drop >their > > >artillery shells on the most inhabitted sections of the country. >That's > > >what they tried to do in 1967 and there is absolutely no reason for > > >anyone to believe that they will not repeat that if they ever get the > > >Golan back. The only way Israel can be secure is to retain the Golan > > >and keep those people who wish to see Israel destroyed off of it. > > > > > >But isn't this supposed to be the biofuels list? > > > > > >Dan > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Hakan Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 11:57 AM > > >To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > > >Subject: Re: [biofuel] wondering about this comment > > > > > > > > >Steve, > > > > > >This is one of the worse things I heard for a long - long time. We >have > > >international laws that regulate this and none is supporting your and > > >Israel's view about individual ownership, as you are stating it. It > > >might have been true some hundreds years ago, but today ownership >must > > >be respected. This have nothing to do with what the state occupies > > >whoever, they are obliged by international law to respect individual > > >property rights. An occupier have the obligation to protect the >occupied > > >population and provide a secure environment in accordance to > > >international law and human rights. Israel does nothing of either. > > >Personally I feel cheated, since I have for so long supported Israel >and > > >its right to live in peace and security. How can this state that for >so > > >long and in such a high degree, solicited and got my support, commit > > >such crimes today. > > > > > >Every time I look at what you are saying, it get me more and more >upset > > >and how can anyone be so f-ing stupid. I do not normally get so upset > > >and it is not good for my health. My friend, you do not fit in the > > >modern society, with respect for human rights. How can anyone support > > >land grab and stealing from individuals, who are the victims of a > > >conflict between states and not personally responsible. > > > > > >How could you, Israel and the US government develop such a barbarian > > >view. > > >The negligence by US to follow the international laws in Iraq, might >be > > >a sign of both the US and Israel ignorance. Leaders and government >of > > >countries are expected to follow international laws, if not, they are > > >criminals. Both US and Israel are bound to these laws and have >ratified > > >them, their behavior is not supportable. > > > > > >Hakan > > > > > >At 15:43 15/06/2004, you wrote: > > > > >I am a neutral observer. To distinguish between what is just and > > > > >what is not. Jews have taken other peoples' homes and have >driven > > > > >them out of their land. > > > > > i understand that all the arabs have accepted the fact that >Isreal > > > > >is to exist. They have offered to live in peace provided Isreal > > > > >returns all the land it stole from the arabs in 1967. Why have >Jews > > > > >rejected it? > > > > > > > >If this person went to work.. made money that he earned would he >feel > > > >that the money still belongs to his employer? > > > > > > > >When you capture territories in a war ... they are yours.. not the > > > >people you captured it from. These are the same things.. > > > > > > > >That is why the Jews have rejected giving the land back. It is >theirs.. > > > > > > >they were attacked... they won. > > > > > > > >End of story... this was not a land grab...this was the spoils of >war. > >The information contained in this message is proprietary of Amdocs, >protected from disclosure, and may be privileged. >The information is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s) >of the message. 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