Ultron is good too.  Only problem I foresee is how to do Ultron
without Hank Pym -- ie, who builds him?

On Jul 19, 2:05 pm, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote:
> The best Avengers villain is and always will be Ultron.
>
> On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I did not know about the rewrite.  Interesting.
>
> > I can't see introducing the Infinity Gauntlet on the heels of the
> > Cosmic Cube/Tesseract (as it is called in Captain America,
> > apparently).  One super artifact should be enough.
>
> > I could see using the Skrulls, I guess.  I never really liked them.
> > But I can see a movie where Nick Fury has the Avengers work together
> > because SHIELD has found out that high ranking officials are being
> > replaced with Skrulls with the intent of obtaining the Cube in order
> > to openly invade the Earth.  Skrulls just don't seem like a good foe
> > for Thor.  Iron Man, alright, I can give you that.  Maybe they have
> > super ray guns or something which can damage the armor.  But Skrulls
> > can't stand up to Thor, especially as he was portrayed in the movie.
>
> > I guess they're a better choice than the Space Phantom.
>
> > Honestly, my favorite Avengers villain is Kang and I know we won't get
> > him.
>
> > On Jul 19, 1:06 pm, Jason Service <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> keep in mind, thanks to Sam Jackson, we have a script re-write. I would be
> >> amazed if they went WILDLY away from what was written, but the leaked 
> >> script
> >> is no longer valid.
>
> >> I am attempting to stay away from true story lines as i would like to be as
> >> suprised as possible with the story when i see the film, but speculation is
> >> all about the fun!!!
>
> >> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> Fair enough.  I often come across online as more dickish than I
> >>> intend.
>
> >>> Hence I would like to get this thread back on track to the Avengers
> >>> and not Firefly/Serenity.  Clearly that is a sore spot for me.
>
> >>> So is the rumor still that Loki is using the Skrulls somehow?  Along
> >>> with the Infinity Gauntlet and/or the Cosmic Cube?
>
> >>> On Jul 19, 12:58 pm, Jason Service <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> Just attempting to keep up with your level of dickishness.
>
> >>>  > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>> Sorry for steering this thread towards how bad Firefly and Serenity
> >>>>> were.
>
> >>>>> Jason, I was going to agree with you regarding Whedon and the outcome
> >>>>> of The Avengers, but since you're insulting me by saying I need "spoon
> >>>>> feeding" you can go pound salt.
>
> >>>>> Ron, I think you are dead-on about the Hulk effects not being ready to
> >>>>> show off, especially considering the sharp backlash from the fans when
> >>>>> the unfinished ILM CGI Hulk was shown in trailers for Ang Lee's Hulk.
> >>>>> I am willing to bet that Marvel wants Hulk to really "WOW" audiences
> >>>>> when he shows up on the big screen in Avengers.
>
> >>>>> Considering the less than stellar performance of Thor (as compared to
> >>>>> IM and IM2), I am curious to see what both Captain America and then
> >>>>> Avengers will do fiscally.  (Without looking up numbers I am pretty
> >>>>> sure that Incredible Hulk did about the same as Thor.)  Will Avengers
> >>>>> be seen as the third Iron Man film, putting projections in the $300m+
> >>>>> range, or as the followup to Thor and such, putting it in the $170m
> >>>>> range?
>
> >>>>> On Jul 19, 12:36 pm, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>> I wasn't a Firefly fan but I thought the movie was ok. Came across as
> >>> a
> >>>>> long TV show with better production values, but still watchable.
>
> >>>>>> On Jul 19, 2011, at 12:32 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> >>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> In geek culture, "known fact" does equal "desperate (fill in the
> >>> blank)
> >>>>> wish". And I'd bet most on this listserve 'know' that Serenity was
> >>> awesome
> >>>>> and that those that disagree are just wrong :)
>
> >>>>>>> ~Ron
>
> >>>>>>> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>
> >>>>>>> -----Original message-----
> >>>>>  > > From: Luke <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>> To: The Unique Geek <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 13:10:22 GMT+00:00
> >>>>>>> Subject: [The Unique Geek] Re: Avengers!
>
> >>>>>>> "Known fact?" You mean "desperate nerd wish?"
>
> >>>>>>> I watched the show. It made my eyes hurt. Didn't help that, as I
> >>>>>>> said in another thread yesterday, that it's a banal ripoff of
> >>> Outlaw
> >>>>>>> Star. And again, I'm not otaku so that's not just a typical
> >>> Asiaphile
> >>>>>>> argument.
>
> >>>>>>> Fact: The only feature film which Joss Whedon has directed made ~
> >>>>>>> $25m. Thus he has NO track record for being a successful film
> >>>>>>> director. Hence my concern for the Avengers film.
>
> >>>>>>> In any event, after seeing Thor this past weekend (discount
> >>> theater) I
> >>>>>>> am very excited to see him and Iron Man interact on screen.
> >>> Nevermind
> >>>>>>> Cap!
>
> >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 9:04 am, Edward Crosby wrote:
> >>>>>>>> That is your opinion, that Serenity and Firefly was a "dog of a
> >>> show"
> >>>>> when
> >>>>>>>> it is a known fact that it was actually quite fantastic.
> >>>>>>>> But, that is one of many things we accept here at TUG is that it
> >>> is
> >>>>> okay for
> >>>>>>>> an opinion to be wrong. It's called diversity.
>
> >>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>> Have a Better One,
> >>>>>>>> Edward Crosbyhttp://about.me/edwardcrosby
>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Luke wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> No, I'm not wrong.  You're wrong.  That movie was a dog, and a
> >>>>>>>>> rightful fiscal failure.  Firefly was a dog of a show and the
> >>> movie
> >>>>>>>>> version was incomprehensible to anyone who was not a devotee of
> >>> the
> >>>>>>>>> show.
>
> >>>>>>>>> Whedon has not proven himself to be successful in feature
> >>> films.
> >>>>>  The
> >>>>>>>>> fact of the matter is that his only feature film was a bomb.
> >>>  And
> >>>>>>>>> hopefully he will not apply his filter of crumminess which
> >>> defined
> >>>>> his
> >>>>>>>>> television shows to The Avengers.
>
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:00 am, Edward Crosby wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> No it wasn't. You're wrong. It was a great, fun, and very
> >>>>> entertaining
> >>>>>>>>>> movie. Especially for the Firefly fans. There were only two
> >>> bad
> >>>>> parts of
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> entire film - SPOILER ALERT - when Shepherd and Wash died.
> >>>>>>>>>> Although I am not much of a Marvel fan, I am looking forward
> >>> to
> >>>>> this. I
> >>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>> hoping to see The Hulk in this. He's not in any of the clips.
> >>>>> Wasn't he
> >>>>>>>>>> supposed to be in the movie? IMDB.com has credits to Mark
> >>> Ruffalo
> >>>>> as puny
> >>>>>>>>>> Banner (I remember the rumors of this) and Lou Ferrigno as
> >>> the
> >>>>> voice.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>> Have a Better One,
> >>>>>>>>>> Edward Crosbyhttp://about.me/edwardcrosby
>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Luke wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> "You've got a mean swing."  Nice.  I hope that we can see
> >>> some
> >>>>> of Thor
> >>>>>>>>>>> And Iron Man Are Friends like we saw in the early 100s of
> >>>>> Avengers.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I too am very excited for this project but with the huge
> >>> caveat
> >>>>> that I
> >>>>>>>>>>> hope to all the gods of the Marvel pantheon that Joss
> >>> Whedon
> >>>>> doesn't
> >>>>>>>>>>> Whedon all over it and ruin it.  The only film he has ever
> >>>>> directed
> >>>>>>>>>>> (Serenity) was a mindless, hopeless, jumbled clusterbomb of
> >>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>> disaster.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 6:35 am, Cary Preston wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Very amped for this now.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:41 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> agreed.  That "some assembly required" tagline is
> >>> awesome.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: shag
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: theuniquegeek
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:39 pm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [The Unique Geek] Avengers!
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks really good!
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Irredeemable Shag
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>http://firestormfan.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>http://onceuponageek.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>http://twitter.com/firestormfan
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [The Unique Geek] Avengers!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, July 19, 2011 12:01 am
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> who knows how long this will be up -
>
> >>>>>http://gizmodo.com/5822377/the-avengers-trailer-leaked-and-its-rad
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