Newbs, Ultron was the villain in Voltron.  Gosh!

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On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote:

> Good point. I wasn't considering movie villains- having a horde like the
> Skrulls or Kree would make for a good story, everyone would have an opponent
> to overcome.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 19, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Ultron is good too.  Only problem I foresee is how to do Ultron
> > without Hank Pym -- ie, who builds him?
> >
> > On Jul 19, 2:05 pm, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> The best Avengers villain is and always will be Ultron.
> >>
> >> On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> I did not know about the rewrite.  Interesting.
> >>
> >>> I can't see introducing the Infinity Gauntlet on the heels of the
> >>> Cosmic Cube/Tesseract (as it is called in Captain America,
> >>> apparently).  One super artifact should be enough.
> >>
> >>> I could see using the Skrulls, I guess.  I never really liked them.
> >>> But I can see a movie where Nick Fury has the Avengers work together
> >>> because SHIELD has found out that high ranking officials are being
> >>> replaced with Skrulls with the intent of obtaining the Cube in order
> >>> to openly invade the Earth.  Skrulls just don't seem like a good foe
> >>> for Thor.  Iron Man, alright, I can give you that.  Maybe they have
> >>> super ray guns or something which can damage the armor.  But Skrulls
> >>> can't stand up to Thor, especially as he was portrayed in the movie.
> >>
> >>> I guess they're a better choice than the Space Phantom.
> >>
> >>> Honestly, my favorite Avengers villain is Kang and I know we won't get
> >>> him.
> >>
> >>> On Jul 19, 1:06 pm, Jason Service <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> keep in mind, thanks to Sam Jackson, we have a script re-write. I
> would be
> >>>> amazed if they went WILDLY away from what was written, but the leaked
> script
> >>>> is no longer valid.
> >>
> >>>> I am attempting to stay away from true story lines as i would like to
> be as
> >>>> suprised as possible with the story when i see the film, but
> speculation is
> >>>> all about the fun!!!
> >>
> >>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>> Fair enough.  I often come across online as more dickish than I
> >>>>> intend.
> >>
> >>>>> Hence I would like to get this thread back on track to the Avengers
> >>>>> and not Firefly/Serenity.  Clearly that is a sore spot for me.
> >>
> >>>>> So is the rumor still that Loki is using the Skrulls somehow?  Along
> >>>>> with the Infinity Gauntlet and/or the Cosmic Cube?
> >>
> >>>>> On Jul 19, 12:58 pm, Jason Service <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>> Just attempting to keep up with your level of dickishness.
> >>
> >>>>>  > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Sorry for steering this thread towards how bad Firefly and Serenity
> >>>>>>> were.
> >>
> >>>>>>> Jason, I was going to agree with you regarding Whedon and the
> outcome
> >>>>>>> of The Avengers, but since you're insulting me by saying I need
> "spoon
> >>>>>>> feeding" you can go pound salt.
> >>
> >>>>>>> Ron, I think you are dead-on about the Hulk effects not being ready
> to
> >>>>>>> show off, especially considering the sharp backlash from the fans
> when
> >>>>>>> the unfinished ILM CGI Hulk was shown in trailers for Ang Lee's
> Hulk.
> >>>>>>> I am willing to bet that Marvel wants Hulk to really "WOW"
> audiences
> >>>>>>> when he shows up on the big screen in Avengers.
> >>
> >>>>>>> Considering the less than stellar performance of Thor (as compared
> to
> >>>>>>> IM and IM2), I am curious to see what both Captain America and then
> >>>>>>> Avengers will do fiscally.  (Without looking up numbers I am pretty
> >>>>>>> sure that Incredible Hulk did about the same as Thor.)  Will
> Avengers
> >>>>>>> be seen as the third Iron Man film, putting projections in the
> $300m+
> >>>>>>> range, or as the followup to Thor and such, putting it in the $170m
> >>>>>>> range?
> >>
> >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 12:36 pm, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I wasn't a Firefly fan but I thought the movie was ok. Came across
> as
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>>> long TV show with better production values, but still watchable.
> >>
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 2011, at 12:32 PM, "[email protected]" <
> [email protected]>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> In geek culture, "known fact" does equal "desperate (fill in the
> >>>>> blank)
> >>>>>>> wish". And I'd bet most on this listserve 'know' that Serenity was
> >>>>> awesome
> >>>>>>> and that those that disagree are just wrong :)
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> ~Ron
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> -----Original message-----
> >>>>>>>  > > From: Luke <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>> To: The Unique Geek <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 13:10:22 GMT+00:00
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [The Unique Geek] Re: Avengers!
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> "Known fact?" You mean "desperate nerd wish?"
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> I watched the show. It made my eyes hurt. Didn't help that, as I
> >>>>>>>>> said in another thread yesterday, that it's a banal ripoff of
> >>>>> Outlaw
> >>>>>>>>> Star. And again, I'm not otaku so that's not just a typical
> >>>>> Asiaphile
> >>>>>>>>> argument.
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> Fact: The only feature film which Joss Whedon has directed made ~
> >>>>>>>>> $25m. Thus he has NO track record for being a successful film
> >>>>>>>>> director. Hence my concern for the Avengers film.
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> In any event, after seeing Thor this past weekend (discount
> >>>>> theater) I
> >>>>>>>>> am very excited to see him and Iron Man interact on screen.
> >>>>> Nevermind
> >>>>>>>>> Cap!
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 9:04 am, Edward Crosby wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> That is your opinion, that Serenity and Firefly was a "dog of a
> >>>>> show"
> >>>>>>> when
> >>>>>>>>>> it is a known fact that it was actually quite fantastic.
> >>>>>>>>>> But, that is one of many things we accept here at TUG is that it
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>>> okay for
> >>>>>>>>>> an opinion to be wrong. It's called diversity.
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>> Have a Better One,
> >>>>>>>>>> Edward Crosbyhttp://about.me/edwardcrosby
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Luke wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> No, I'm not wrong.  You're wrong.  That movie was a dog, and a
> >>>>>>>>>>> rightful fiscal failure.  Firefly was a dog of a show and the
> >>>>> movie
> >>>>>>>>>>> version was incomprehensible to anyone who was not a devotee of
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> show.
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Whedon has not proven himself to be successful in feature
> >>>>> films.
> >>>>>>>  The
> >>>>>>>>>>> fact of the matter is that his only feature film was a bomb.
> >>>>>  And
> >>>>>>>>>>> hopefully he will not apply his filter of crumminess which
> >>>>> defined
> >>>>>>> his
> >>>>>>>>>>> television shows to The Avengers.
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:00 am, Edward Crosby wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> No it wasn't. You're wrong. It was a great, fun, and very
> >>>>>>> entertaining
> >>>>>>>>>>>> movie. Especially for the Firefly fans. There were only two
> >>>>> bad
> >>>>>>> parts of
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> entire film - SPOILER ALERT - when Shepherd and Wash died.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Although I am not much of a Marvel fan, I am looking forward
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>> this. I
> >>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>> hoping to see The Hulk in this. He's not in any of the clips.
> >>>>>>> Wasn't he
> >>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be in the movie? IMDB.com has credits to Mark
> >>>>> Ruffalo
> >>>>>>> as puny
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Banner (I remember the rumors of this) and Lou Ferrigno as
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>> voice.
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Have a Better One,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Edward Crosbyhttp://about.me/edwardcrosby
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Luke wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "You've got a mean swing."  Nice.  I hope that we can see
> >>>>> some
> >>>>>>> of Thor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And Iron Man Are Friends like we saw in the early 100s of
> >>>>>>> Avengers.
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I too am very excited for this project but with the huge
> >>>>> caveat
> >>>>>>> that I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> hope to all the gods of the Marvel pantheon that Joss
> >>>>> Whedon
> >>>>>>> doesn't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Whedon all over it and ruin it.  The only film he has ever
> >>>>>>> directed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Serenity) was a mindless, hopeless, jumbled clusterbomb of
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> disaster.
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 6:35 am, Cary Preston wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very amped for this now.
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:41 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agreed.  That "some assembly required" tagline is
> >>>>> awesome.
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: shag
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: theuniquegeek
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:39 pm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [The Unique Geek] Avengers!
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks really good!
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Irredeemable Shag
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://firestormfan.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://onceuponageek.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/firestormfan
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [The Unique Geek] Avengers!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, July 19, 2011 12:01 am
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who knows how long this will be up -
> >>
> >>>>>>> http://gizmodo.com/5822377/the-avengers-trailer-leaked-and-its-rad
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