Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

[Kevin Deegan]

There was a significant word game going on when I first arrived on this forum. LDS using words that seemed intended to cloak the true LDS understanding.

I think the christians here have a far better understanding of mormonism now then in past years

 

There are words that are familiar to christians that have a different meaning to LDS

Word   Christian      LDS meaning

Gentile NON Jew - NON LDS

angel  created spirit being  - ressurected man

Virgin birth

Gospel

Fall bad -good

Jesus Christ
Godhead Trinity - committee composed of gods including SATAN

council in heaven - The meeting in the premortal life of the Godhead and spirits designated for this earth, in which the plan of salvation was presented.

 

http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/basic/premortal/Council_EOM.htm

At a certain point in the council, the Father asked, "Whom shall I send [as the Redeemer]?" Jesus Christ, known then as the great I AM and as Jehovah, answered, "Here am I, send me," and agreed to follow the Father's plan (Moses 4:1-4; Abr. 3:27). As a counter-measure, Lucifer offered himself and an amendment to the Father's plan of saving mankind that would not respect their agency

 

http://www.towertotruth.net/Mormon/witnessing/terminology.htm

 

Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

David, Dave is smarter than you are giving him credit for being. He knows
what he is doing. He is playing a word game. I have no problem with him
pushing his mormon views into the discussions here...I just want him to
acknowledge that is what he is doing. He is intentionally misinterpreting
this as my not wanting him to espouse mormonism on the forum. That is NOT my
goal. My goal is to get him to own his actions. To say he is NOT pushing
mormonism, then push it anyway is disengenuous. Then, to turn it around as
though I do not welcome his mormon views is a lie.

Perry

>From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
>To:
>Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic
>Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT
>Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 09:09:31 -0400
>
>DaveH wrote:
> > Apparently many TTers want me to teach LDS theology on
> > TT, yet some wish to criticize me for complying with their wishes.
> > Seems like a no win situation, eh Lance.
>
>Let me clarify yet again what TruthTalk is all about and Dave Hansen's
>situation in regards to this forum.
>
>TruthTalk is meant to be a forum where people from different religions and
>different backgrounds can share their beliefs and teachings with the rest
>of
>us. We, in turn, can judge what they teach and examine it. We can raise
>objections or questions concerning what is being said. The goal is
>learning
>and getting a better undertanding of both what we believe and what others
>believe.
>
>Dave Hansen is LDS Mormon and he has as much right here as anybody else to
>teach or post his views. In like manner, his teachings will be examined
>and
>questioned by others. This is the nature of the forum. I would not say
>that it is a "no win situation" just because a person's viewpoint is
>criticized in this forum. If you share your views, expect some examination
>and perhaps criticism if someone thinks that the viewpoint deserves such.
>
>Now in regards to the question of why DaveH is here. I have read both Dave
>and Perry's exchange on this, and personally I find Dave's reasons for
>being
>here consistent. He has an interest in knowing what Protestants believe
>and
>why. He interacts with us, and in doing so, is questioned about his
>beliefs. He responds to such questions in a way that he is comfortable.
>Often the exchange hits a dead end, and some TruthTalk members get
>frustrated with that (me included), but I don't think that means that his
>reasons for being here are not being stated properly. Some have
>interpreted
>him to be implying that he wants to become a Protestant if he hears good
>answers for what Protestants believe, but I have never understood him that
>way. He is simply curious and has an academic interest in what motivates
>us
>and what makes us who we are. I'm sure Christians not affiliated with a
>major institution seems very strange to him. His life is centered around
>an
>institution of authority. That is the kind of structure he is use to and
>is
>comfortable with. Many of us reject such institutions. I think Dave is
>still trying to understand why and how this is. I suspect it would be
>easier for him to understand us if we were all Roman Catholic.
>
>Peace be with you.
>David Miller.
>
>
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