On 2018-03-21 11:55, Raimon Esteve wrote:
> 2018-03-21 11:37 GMT+01:00 Sergi Almacellas Abellana <se...@koolpi.com>:
> > El 21/03/18 a les 11:18, Raimon Esteve ha escrit:
> >>> Raimon: Could you explain what do you mean about deducible and which
> >>> functionalities are implemented?
> >> First design account_es module:
> >>
> >> https://bitbucket.org/trytonspain/trytond-account_es/src/
> >
> > That's the base we picked for the first version of the account_es
> > module. We did some cleaning and as already explained on this thread we
> > should do more cleaning.
> >>
> >> Third modules to add more functions in account_es core module (from 
> >> tryton.org):
> >>
> >> https://bitbucket.org/trytonspain/trytond-account_es_es/src/
> >
> > Let's comment the functionality added by this module.
> >
> > - It adds and efective kind on account. Where is the efective kind used?
> > If any module requires a new kind it should be added on the module and
> > not on a chart of accounts (Like we do in account_deposit). Indeed there
> > is an issue to allow to define the kind depending on the activated
> > modules: https://bugs.tryton.org/issue7126
> 
> https://bitbucket.org/trytonspain/trytond-account_es/commits/ad96bde5798318763e303caa6becd4470e33c4a3

I do not understand what you mean by pointing a link to commit.
Please elaborate a sentence to explain. Please try to be understood by
others.

> > - It adds the code on fiscalyear and period. This was removed by
> > https://bugs.tryton.org/issue4241 Could you explain why is required to
> > have the code on the spanish localization. I don't see any reason here.
> 
> Code field was removed from account module last versions. We use in
> aeat modules, etc.

What is the usage? Why not use the name?

> > - It removes the xml check from the template modules. Why is this
> > required? IIRC this is a workarround to solve another problem and should
> > not be part of the chart of accounts.
> 
> to allow update account.template etc

I think this shows that current Spanish account template are wrong if
they need to be updated. And it is probably because there are too much.

> > - It adds a report description on the taxes. This is already implemented
> > with https://bugs.tryton.org/issue2329
> 
> Is not same legal notice that report description tax.

Please explain. What is the purpose? where is it used?

> > - It adds a deducible boolean on the taxes. I see all have the value of
> > True. So could you explain why this flag is needed and which taxes will
> > have a False value?
> 
> https://bitbucket.org/trytonspain/tryton-account_es_csv2xml/commits/a85b54392424eeb8be4b404e46aeaacbfb27ae7b

Again what do you want to express by pointing a commit of thousand of
lines?
Please try to have a conversation with arguments and explanation.

> > - It adds a recargo equivalencia flag to the taxes. This flag is not set
> > for any taxes (but we have the recargo the equivalencia base module). So
> > I do not think this is a used feature and it can be removed.
> 
> https://bitbucket.org/trytonspain/tryton-account_es_csv2xml/commits/492a29cbc17b1590c10763d9629a07d65f0d01b0

Again the same thousands of lines without any explanation.

> note:
> @sergi, you was working on trytonspain modules some years ago. I think
> you know/remember very well all features and desings, and why do
> it,.... ;)

And for the others? How can we have explanation and design choices?

> I have two new quesions to know future about account_es module:
> 
> - Who know account chart account? spanish account users or foreign users?

I think keeping it secret only for you is not how to build a community.
Most of the challenge of accounting are not limited to a country as we
showed in many cases (cash basis, tax rule substitutions, invoice
sequences etc.). So yes "foreign developers" will probably improve the
Spanish chart of account (indeed https://bugs.tryton.org/issue7150
already prove it).

> - I read about the idea to do a basic module with a simple data and
> remove extra data that need medium/big companies. Correct?

This is the usual Tryton way. General usage is standard and specific
module for extended usage.

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