--- On Sat, 9/10/11, William Bryce <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Ron, > > I suggest you take your 'tin foil hat off' Ron.
Hmm, so you were claiming me starting a flame war. Guess who is doing it now? In other successful open source projects, there is transparency. With Univa not disclosing what is open and what is close, I don't think we can should continue this "working together" discussion or even bring it up again in the near future. -Ron > Initially we thought that we should ask > people to assign copyright to Univa if they want to include > fixes but we continued to discuss and we were > discussing that if we do have copyright assignment that it > be assigned to an 'independent 3rd party' i.e. not Univa but > something that we all have a stake in. > > But you can believe what you want to believe Ron. > > Bill. > > On 2011-09-09, at 11:44 AM, Ron Chen wrote: > > > Bill, please stop misleading the list. This is EXACTLY > this kind of tactics that I am against. > > > > I am not talking about not putting copyright to my > code (my code is under SISSL, and Univa Grid Engine has 10 > features that were developed by me.) > > > > What I was referring to is copyright reassignment. You > have requested me to reassign the copyright of my code to > Univa not long ago, I am suprised that you could mix up the > two. > > > > -Ron > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 9/9/11, William Bryce <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I agree with Hung-Sheng, > >> > >> You should put copyright on your code, and in > regards to > >> Ron's comments. I won't comment - Ron can > have a flame > >> war with himself :-) > >> > >> Bill. > >> > >> On 2011-09-09, at 11:22 AM, LaoTsao wrote: > >> > >>> IMHO, every code need copy right > >>> especial someone else try to make $ out of > your code > >>> my 2c > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPad > >>> Hung-Sheng Tsao ( LaoTsao) Ph.D > >>> > >>> On Sep 9, 2011, at 10:40, Ron Chen <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> --- On Fri, 9/9/11, Mark Dixon <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>>>> I'm still a bit fuzzy on what > differentiates > >> the efforts, > >>>>> and am concerned that the projects > might not > >> be pulling in a > >>>>> common direction to benefit the > community as a > >> whole. > >>>> > >>>> Mark, > >>>> > >>>> In fact our existance benefits the > community -- > >> did you know that we fixed the memory accounting > bug on > >> Linux in the Open Grid Scheduler back in Aug last > year, and > >> Son of Grid Engine copied our fix? And Univa Grid > Engine > >> 8.0.0 still has that bug *as of today*, and its > customers > >> need to wait for 8.0.1 to get a fix. > >>>> > >>>> And I hightly doubt Univa would put as > much effort > >> as it is now and add the hwloc support into the > open core if > >> we did not announce our hwloc support back in > April: > >>>> > >>>> http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/projects/hwloc/GridEnginehwloc.html > >>>> > >>>> Also, I strongly believe that Univa will > now put > >> more effort in to get GPU integration, IPv6 > support, SGI MPT > >> integration, etc into the open core ASAP as we are > working > >> on those features in Open Grid Scheduler. > >>>> > >>>> When there is no competition, most > businesses tend > >> not to work hard to gain market share - and I > don't think > >> Univa is different. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Isn't this what the steering committee > was > >> aiming to improve? > >>>>> As far as I can see, there's been no > news > >> posted to > >>>>> gridengine.org since February. > >>>> > >>>> The page is old, and Stephen Dennis quited > Univa > >> as well. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> I'm not trying to have a go at anyone, > I think > >> everyone > >>>>> wants what is best for the community: > I'm just > >> hoping for a > >>>>> bit more constructive discussion about > what > >> that might be > >>>>> :) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I have a tendency not to trust companies, > as a lot > >> of them are somewhat dishonest and lack of > integrity in > >> order to gain a customer or two. I have not > totally written > >> off Univa yet, but what Univa posted on the > website about > >> open source Grid Engine is not true (and the ones > most piss > >> me off are "UGE Wins Hands Down" & "Free Grid > Engine > >> isn't Free"?) -- so at this point working with > Univa is out > >> of the question. > >>>> > >>>> And even outout the stupid market tactics, > Univa > >> is never clear what would be put in the open core > and what > >> is closed source. I am not signing the copy right > assignment > >> - they can continue to copy my code and feature as > they > >> wanted. > >>>> > >>>> -Ron > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Mark > >>>>> -- > >>>>> > >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> Mark Dixon > > >> > >>>>> > >> Email : > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> HPC/Grid Systems Support > >> > >>>>> Tel (int): 35429 > >>>>> Information Systems Services > >> Tel > >>>>> (ext): +44(0)113 343 5429 > >>>>> University of Leeds, LS2 9JT, UK > >>>>> > >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> users mailing list > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> https://gridengine.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>> users mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> https://gridengine.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> users mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> https://gridengine.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >> > >> William Bryce | VP of Products > >> Univa Corporation - 1001 Warrenville Road, Suite > 100 Lisle, > >> Il, 65032 USA > >> Email [email protected] > >> | Mobile: 512.751.8014 | Office: 905.237.4462 > >> > >> > > William Bryce | VP of Products > Univa Corporation - 1001 Warrenville Road, Suite 100 Lisle, > Il, 65032 USA > Email [email protected] > | Mobile: 512.751.8014 | Office: 905.237.4462 > > _______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] https://gridengine.org/mailman/listinfo/users
