sorry it is me that mixup the copyright and copyright reassignment
Sent from my iPad Hung-Sheng Tsao ( LaoTsao) Ph.D On Sep 9, 2011, at 12:21, Ron Chen <[email protected]> wrote: > --- On Sat, 9/10/11, William Bryce <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Ron, >> >> I suggest you take your 'tin foil hat off' Ron. > > Hmm, so you were claiming me starting a flame war. Guess who is doing it now? > > In other successful open source projects, there is transparency. With Univa > not disclosing what is open and what is close, I don't think we can should > continue this "working together" discussion or even bring it up again in the > near future. > > -Ron > > >> Initially we thought that we should ask >> people to assign copyright to Univa if they want to include >> fixes but we continued to discuss and we were >> discussing that if we do have copyright assignment that it >> be assigned to an 'independent 3rd party' i.e. not Univa but >> something that we all have a stake in. >> >> But you can believe what you want to believe Ron. >> >> Bill. >> >> On 2011-09-09, at 11:44 AM, Ron Chen wrote: >> >>> Bill, please stop misleading the list. This is EXACTLY >> this kind of tactics that I am against. >>> >>> I am not talking about not putting copyright to my >> code (my code is under SISSL, and Univa Grid Engine has 10 >> features that were developed by me.) >>> >>> What I was referring to is copyright reassignment. You >> have requested me to reassign the copyright of my code to >> Univa not long ago, I am suprised that you could mix up the >> two. >>> >>> -Ron >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On Fri, 9/9/11, William Bryce <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>> I agree with Hung-Sheng, >>>> >>>> You should put copyright on your code, and in >> regards to >>>> Ron's comments. I won't comment - Ron can >> have a flame >>>> war with himself :-) >>>> >>>> Bill. >>>> >>>> On 2011-09-09, at 11:22 AM, LaoTsao wrote: >>>> >>>>> IMHO, every code need copy right >>>>> especial someone else try to make $ out of >> your code >>>>> my 2c >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> Hung-Sheng Tsao ( LaoTsao) Ph.D >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 9, 2011, at 10:40, Ron Chen <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> --- On Fri, 9/9/11, Mark Dixon <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>> I'm still a bit fuzzy on what >> differentiates >>>> the efforts, >>>>>>> and am concerned that the projects >> might not >>>> be pulling in a >>>>>>> common direction to benefit the >> community as a >>>> whole. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark, >>>>>> >>>>>> In fact our existance benefits the >> community -- >>>> did you know that we fixed the memory accounting >> bug on >>>> Linux in the Open Grid Scheduler back in Aug last >> year, and >>>> Son of Grid Engine copied our fix? And Univa Grid >> Engine >>>> 8.0.0 still has that bug *as of today*, and its >> customers >>>> need to wait for 8.0.1 to get a fix. >>>>>> >>>>>> And I hightly doubt Univa would put as >> much effort >>>> as it is now and add the hwloc support into the >> open core if >>>> we did not announce our hwloc support back in >> April: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/projects/hwloc/GridEnginehwloc.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, I strongly believe that Univa will >> now put >>>> more effort in to get GPU integration, IPv6 >> support, SGI MPT >>>> integration, etc into the open core ASAP as we are >> working >>>> on those features in Open Grid Scheduler. >>>>>> >>>>>> When there is no competition, most >> businesses tend >>>> not to work hard to gain market share - and I >> don't think >>>> Univa is different. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Isn't this what the steering committee >> was >>>> aiming to improve? >>>>>>> As far as I can see, there's been no >> news >>>> posted to >>>>>>> gridengine.org since February. >>>>>> >>>>>> The page is old, and Stephen Dennis quited >> Univa >>>> as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not trying to have a go at anyone, >> I think >>>> everyone >>>>>>> wants what is best for the community: >> I'm just >>>> hoping for a >>>>>>> bit more constructive discussion about >> what >>>> that might be >>>>>>> :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a tendency not to trust companies, >> as a lot >>>> of them are somewhat dishonest and lack of >> integrity in >>>> order to gain a customer or two. I have not >> totally written >>>> off Univa yet, but what Univa posted on the >> website about >>>> open source Grid Engine is not true (and the ones >> most piss >>>> me off are "UGE Wins Hands Down" & "Free Grid >> Engine >>>> isn't Free"?) -- so at this point working with >> Univa is out >>>> of the question. >>>>>> >>>>>> And even outout the stupid market tactics, >> Univa >>>> is never clear what would be put in the open core >> and what >>>> is closed source. I am not signing the copy right >> assignment >>>> - they can continue to copy my code and feature as >> they >>>> wanted. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Ron >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> Mark Dixon >> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> Email : >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> HPC/Grid Systems Support >>>> >>>>>>> Tel (int): 35429 >>>>>>> Information Systems Services >>>> Tel >>>>>>> (ext): +44(0)113 343 5429 >>>>>>> University of Leeds, LS2 9JT, UK >>>>>>> >>>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> users mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://gridengine.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> users mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://gridengine.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> users mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://gridengine.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>> >>>> William Bryce | VP of Products >>>> Univa Corporation - 1001 Warrenville Road, Suite >> 100 Lisle, >>>> Il, 65032 USA >>>> Email [email protected] >>>> | Mobile: 512.751.8014 | Office: 905.237.4462 >>>> >>>> >> >> William Bryce | VP of Products >> Univa Corporation - 1001 Warrenville Road, Suite 100 Lisle, >> Il, 65032 USA >> Email [email protected] >> | Mobile: 512.751.8014 | Office: 905.237.4462 >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > [email protected] > https://gridengine.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] https://gridengine.org/mailman/listinfo/users
