what i mean is that if someone else make $ of your code then you should get a share of $
Sent from my iPad Hung-Sheng Tsao ( LaoTsao) Ph.D On Sep 9, 2011, at 12:25, LaoTsao <[email protected]> wrote: > sorry it is me that mixup the copyright and copyright reassignment > > > Sent from my iPad > Hung-Sheng Tsao ( LaoTsao) Ph.D > > On Sep 9, 2011, at 12:21, Ron Chen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> --- On Sat, 9/10/11, William Bryce <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi Ron, >>> >>> I suggest you take your 'tin foil hat off' Ron. >> >> Hmm, so you were claiming me starting a flame war. Guess who is doing it now? >> >> In other successful open source projects, there is transparency. With Univa >> not disclosing what is open and what is close, I don't think we can should >> continue this "working together" discussion or even bring it up again in the >> near future. >> >> -Ron >> >> >>> Initially we thought that we should ask >>> people to assign copyright to Univa if they want to include >>> fixes but we continued to discuss and we were >>> discussing that if we do have copyright assignment that it >>> be assigned to an 'independent 3rd party' i.e. not Univa but >>> something that we all have a stake in. >>> >>> But you can believe what you want to believe Ron. >>> >>> Bill. >>> >>> On 2011-09-09, at 11:44 AM, Ron Chen wrote: >>> >>>> Bill, please stop misleading the list. This is EXACTLY >>> this kind of tactics that I am against. >>>> >>>> I am not talking about not putting copyright to my >>> code (my code is under SISSL, and Univa Grid Engine has 10 >>> features that were developed by me.) >>>> >>>> What I was referring to is copyright reassignment. You >>> have requested me to reassign the copyright of my code to >>> Univa not long ago, I am suprised that you could mix up the >>> two. >>>> >>>> -Ron >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- On Fri, 9/9/11, William Bryce <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>>> I agree with Hung-Sheng, >>>>> >>>>> You should put copyright on your code, and in >>> regards to >>>>> Ron's comments. I won't comment - Ron can >>> have a flame >>>>> war with himself :-) >>>>> >>>>> Bill. >>>>> >>>>> On 2011-09-09, at 11:22 AM, LaoTsao wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> IMHO, every code need copy right >>>>>> especial someone else try to make $ out of >>> your code >>>>>> my 2c >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> Hung-Sheng Tsao ( LaoTsao) Ph.D >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 9, 2011, at 10:40, Ron Chen <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> --- On Fri, 9/9/11, Mark Dixon <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> I'm still a bit fuzzy on what >>> differentiates >>>>> the efforts, >>>>>>>> and am concerned that the projects >>> might not >>>>> be pulling in a >>>>>>>> common direction to benefit the >>> community as a >>>>> whole. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In fact our existance benefits the >>> community -- >>>>> did you know that we fixed the memory accounting >>> bug on >>>>> Linux in the Open Grid Scheduler back in Aug last >>> year, and >>>>> Son of Grid Engine copied our fix? And Univa Grid >>> Engine >>>>> 8.0.0 still has that bug *as of today*, and its >>> customers >>>>> need to wait for 8.0.1 to get a fix. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And I hightly doubt Univa would put as >>> much effort >>>>> as it is now and add the hwloc support into the >>> open core if >>>>> we did not announce our hwloc support back in >>> April: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/projects/hwloc/GridEnginehwloc.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, I strongly believe that Univa will >>> now put >>>>> more effort in to get GPU integration, IPv6 >>> support, SGI MPT >>>>> integration, etc into the open core ASAP as we are >>> working >>>>> on those features in Open Grid Scheduler. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When there is no competition, most >>> businesses tend >>>>> not to work hard to gain market share - and I >>> don't think >>>>> Univa is different. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Isn't this what the steering committee >>> was >>>>> aiming to improve? >>>>>>>> As far as I can see, there's been no >>> news >>>>> posted to >>>>>>>> gridengine.org since February. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The page is old, and Stephen Dennis quited >>> Univa >>>>> as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not trying to have a go at anyone, >>> I think >>>>> everyone >>>>>>>> wants what is best for the community: >>> I'm just >>>>> hoping for a >>>>>>>> bit more constructive discussion about >>> what >>>>> that might be >>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a tendency not to trust companies, >>> as a lot >>>>> of them are somewhat dishonest and lack of >>> integrity in >>>>> order to gain a customer or two. I have not >>> totally written >>>>> off Univa yet, but what Univa posted on the >>> website about >>>>> open source Grid Engine is not true (and the ones >>> most piss >>>>> me off are "UGE Wins Hands Down" & "Free Grid >>> Engine >>>>> isn't Free"?) -- so at this point working with >>> Univa is out >>>>> of the question. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And even outout the stupid market tactics, >>> Univa >>>>> is never clear what would be put in the open core >>> and what >>>>> is closed source. I am not signing the copy right >>> assignment >>>>> - they can continue to copy my code and feature as >>> they >>>>> wanted. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Ron >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> Mark Dixon >>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> Email : >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> HPC/Grid Systems Support >>>>> >>>>>>>> Tel (int): 35429 >>>>>>>> Information Systems Services >>>>> Tel >>>>>>>> (ext): +44(0)113 343 5429 >>>>>>>> University of Leeds, LS2 9JT, UK >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> users mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> https://gridengine.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> users mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://gridengine.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> users mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://gridengine.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>> >>>>> William Bryce | VP of Products >>>>> Univa Corporation - 1001 Warrenville Road, Suite >>> 100 Lisle, >>>>> Il, 65032 USA >>>>> Email [email protected] >>>>> | Mobile: 512.751.8014 | Office: 905.237.4462 >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> William Bryce | VP of Products >>> Univa Corporation - 1001 Warrenville Road, Suite 100 Lisle, >>> Il, 65032 USA >>> Email [email protected] >>> | Mobile: 512.751.8014 | Office: 905.237.4462 >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> users mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://gridengine.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] https://gridengine.org/mailman/listinfo/users
