On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:03:18 -0600 Came this utterance formulated by Larry Gusaas to my mailbox:
> On 2009/03/21 1:41 PM Michael Adams wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:24:30 -0600 > > Came this utterance formulated by Larry Gusaas to my mailbox: > > > > > >> On 2009/03/21 12:05 AM Michael Adams wrote: > >> > >>> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:53:17 -0600 > >>> Came this utterance formulated by Larry Gusaas to my mailbox: > >>> > >>> > >>>> This list should be like a normal list and require people to > >>>> > >>> subscribe> before postling. > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> It serves as a support mailing address for total newbies through > >to>> experts that want to ask questions. If you insist that the > >newbies>> learn how to use a mailing list before they can post a > >question,>> they will be less likely to ask their question. It works. > >>> > >>> > >> No, it does not work. This sub-thread started because someone > >replied> to a non-subscribed poster and did not cc him. > >> > > > > That is a training issue. Those volunteering to assist here cannot > > expect to do so without some training. One need only lurk on the > > list for a month and that training will be given. > > > > So you expect all volunteers to waste their valuable time searching > through all the headers to find out if a poster is subscribed before > sending a reply? > No, but training is freely given in how to set up email clients so that all moderated emails go to a different sub-folder. > > It also serves a purpose. Many times i have seen a frustrated user > > sideswiping at OO.o as the problem with varying degrees of vulgarity > > (95% of the time these issues are lack of personal training or > > failure to read the manuals). But it was because they were not > > subscribed that they thankfully missed most the unhelpful replies > > back from other subscribers that take the bait. > > > > And many times the the user has not received a very useful reply > because they were not CC'ed. > Generally others will reply or forward that email. > >> People giving help have to jump through too many hoops to determine > >if> a poster is subscribed to the list. At the very least, the list > >should> be set up so that the address of non-subscribed posters is > >included in> the reply-to header. > >> > > > > Is the mailing list server capable of this? > > > > Why don't you check? > I didn't ask for any change, I am the one that is happy with things as they are. I was posing a question that needed considering. I have no more association with the mail server than you. > > With the quality of some of the replies given do we want frustrated > > newbies recieving ALL replies to their annoyed and protagonistic > > missives? Our replies to these often do not further the cause of > > OO.o, in other words, if some of the replies were given by a > > helpdesk it could be a case for dismissal ;) > > > > This is a mailing list, not a help desk. If you want it to function as > a help desk so people don't have to subscribe, set up a help desk. > It is a help avenue. Remember many querants don't even know what a mailing list is. I think you are taking things too personally, i am not attacking you. I do have, and am entitled to, a different point of view however. If you think the system could be improved there are avenues that are well know for requesting improvements. Trying to bludgeon through a change through emails to this list won't happen no matter how agressive the email. -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
