VACList-Digest Wednesday, March 6, 2002 Issue 232
Today's Topics:
1. Alternative Heat and Cooling
2. Re: WBCCI numbers and shadows
3. G6 to remove clearcoat - A BIG NO!
4. Re: jalousie Windows and metal fatigue
5. Re: PJM-> jalousie Windows and metal fatigue
6. Re: Zolatone and Hardwood floors
7. 73 Center bath mirror
8. Re:
9. Re: G6 to remove clearcoat - A BIG NO!
10. Tow Vehicle Weight
11. Elkton, FL 1971 A/S
12. Re: 73 Center bath mirror
13. Re: Hardwood floors
14. Small Calif Trailer for sale
15. Membership revisited
16. Re: Tow Vehicle Weight
17. Re: Membership revisited
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Message Number: 1
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 19:31:29 -0600
From: Dan Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Alternative Heat and Cooling
Thought some might be interested that Pelonis (www.pelonis.com) makes a
portable 9,000 btu a/c unit with an integral 5,200 BTU heater. Sits on the
floor and vents hot air through a hose out the window, catches condensation
in a pan. $1,100�perhaps not more than installing a standard RV A/C, and
esp. attractive if you wanted to add a/c to a vintage coach without cutting
up and reinforcing the roof, dealing with the additional weight and
clearance problems, and mucking up the look. Also, of course, you could make
use of it elsewhere, as it's portable. I've got one of Pelonis' flex furnace
II heaters, and have used it as my only source of heat for two winters, and
am very pleased with it. Great product.
Dan Weeks
'75 Argosy 26
Des MOines
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Message Number: 2
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:43:57 -0500
From: "Edward Emerick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WBCCI numbers and shadows
Hi Molly,
Each trailer we have purchased has had some numbers or number shadows on
it. Consider it a right of passing, the older the trailer the more
shadows it should have. Number shadows have never hindered me from
buying or selling. Number the trailer, show off who you are.
Ed
WBCCI/VAC 4425
68 Sovereign (Numbers all around)
59 Traveler (Shadows to be deciphered)
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Subject: [VAC] WBCCI numbers and shadows
I have a question about one of the most sacred of all Airstream
institutions, but here goes...
Our '71 Sovereign has never had WBCCI numbers, and we have not yet put
our new numbers on the trailer (we joined a couple of months ago).
We're rather picky about the trailer's appearance and are concerned
about the shadows caused by the numbers in case we sell the trailer
sometime down the road. Is that really an issue at all, or do most
people expect numbers or the shadows of removed numbers on a trailer of
that vintage? Is there anything we can do to minimize the shadow
effect?
Thanks in advance,
Molly
1971 Sovereign
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Message Number: 3
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 18:11:09 -0800
From: "Globetrotter64" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: G6 to remove clearcoat - A BIG NO!
Just catching up on the airstream emails after traveling and saw the
questions on using Nuvite G6 to remove clearcoat.
Yes, G6 may grind off the clear coat (depending on condition and quality of
the clearcoat) BUT it probably will not do it evenly. Believe it or not,
the aluminum surface can grind more quickly than some clearcoat will! Your
finished aluminum surface will not be as smooth as it would be if you
chemically stripped it first. (We know this from first-hand experience!)
On our 1964 trailer we stripped mostly with the Citra Strip. This product
is great because it is much easier on the hands and clings very well to the
trailer (we did not even use gloves). On one side of the trailer that had
been refinished, the Citra Strip did not even faze the clearcoat, even after
being left on for hours. The spray can Klean-Strip Aircraft stripper (cheap,
from Walmart) worked great for that part. We found it MUCH easier to use
than other powerful paste or liquid stripper, and you do use less too.
Arlen & Shirley Manning Napa CA
1964 Globetrotter
http://globetrotter64.home.att.net/
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Message Number: 4
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 22:37:45 -0800
From: Chris Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: jalousie Windows and metal fatigue
That would be great , Andy , a picture would be worth a thousand words
, but
if you can spare a few more , why do you think this happened ? Why on
22`
ers ? Was the floor rotten under the window ?----One coach or
several?----
What years ? Clouds , Caravanners, Safaris ? Jealousie too heavy ? frame
outriggers too light ? Ribs to far apart ? Any thing that can be done to
prevent this occurance ?
Seems like the cure is worse than the problem itself , should i find
any
cracks in the ribs ( I dont have any in the skin ) I will figure a
repair
that will save the window , I love jealosies , and love solving
problems .
This is an interesting thread for me , I appreciate your taking the
time to
explain it to me . Always interesting to talk to pro`s who know about
these
problems by year or model , say with cars , or with old airstreams . You
must
have seen a few , And to any of the other dealers or techs out there (
and I
know you`re out there ! ) I would love to hear more of similar threads
, or
particularly more about this one . Has anyone else run into this problem
????
Chris
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> It's not the windows that cracked, it's the sheet metal at the top of the
> windows that cracked. I will post a picture in the near future. Andy
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Message Number: 5
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 22:56:11 -0800
From: Chris Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PJM-> jalousie Windows and metal fatigue
Sorry about the way my computer formats my posts ( see previous one ) but this
laptop hasnt been the same since it fell off the desk !!
Chris
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Message Number: 6
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 23:07:07 -0500
From: Daisy Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Zolatone and Hardwood floors
For floors, let me put in a good word for cork. Light weight,
insulating, sound deadening, soft underfoot, doesn't mind getting wet,
is flexible enough to not crack or walk around with trailer movements.
My parents' 30 year old kitchen floor has been abused and still looks
great.
http://www.corkfloors.com/
http://www.corkstore.com/
and
http://www.tiac.net/users/jtdjtd/aspix/floor/floor.html
Daisy
> Phil Renner wrote:
>
> Two items I'm wondering about. Has anyone ever applied a fresh
> Zolatone paint job <b>over</b> a well prepared but previously painted
> wall (previously painted with interior latex house paint.
> Zolatone hints that it's possible, but I'm not sure. I also have no
> desire to completely strip my interior walls.
>
> Secondly, it's time for me to decide on a floor covering. My wife says
> no carpeting, she'd prefer an inexpensive parquet hardwood floor,
> generally available at Home Depot. Since the trailer is gutted,
> re-installing the bulkheads after taking a little trim at the
> bottom is no problem. But is hardwood a good day-to-day, practical
> surface?
>
> Your thoughts are appreciated.
>
> Phil Renner
> 63 Overlander
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Message Number: 7
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 23:21:49 -0500
From: Daisy Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 73 Center bath mirror
Hi all,
Thanks to Peter Count, I now have a bathroom mirror to put in. The
mirror is a sandwich of interior paneling, 1/4 double sided woodgrain
stuff and the mirror, all held together with gold extrusions. The
silvering on the mirror was corroded by a strip of thick double faced
tape used to keep the mirror attached to the panel board. I'm getting a
new mirror cut and then I'll reassemble the sandwich.
There were three different catches on this mirror: A magnetic one, a
cabinet latch like the old kitchen ones with an arrow shaped thing that
pushes into a hole and stays shut by tension, and then a sliding bolt.
It looks like the magnet is origonal, and that it didn't keep the bottom
of the mirror inplace, so someone added the other latches.
What's origonal and what does any one else have ?
Daisy
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Message Number: 8
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 23:53:13 -0600
From: "Jeffrey Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:
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Secondly, it's time for me to decide on a floor covering. My wife says =3D
no carpeting, she'd prefer an inexpensive parquet hardwood floor, =3D
generally available at Home Depot. Since the trailer is gutted, =3D
re-installing the bulkheads after taking a little trim at the bottom is =3D
no problem. But is hardwood a good day-to-day, practical surface?
Your thoughts are appreciated.
Phil Renner
63 Overlander
Phil:
This has been debated for some months, please check past posts at Tom Pat=
terson's site. I'm replacing the carpet in my 1969 Overlander right afte=
r fixing the water heater leak. I'd suggest you wait for Dr Jim Greene =
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to get back from vacation & ask about his Pergo =
Presto & berber carpet installation on a 1968 Tradewind. I was bent on P=
ergo until I saw cork tile. Now I'm undecided again. The bamboo is also=
beautiful.
Keep us posted
Jeff Miller
69 Overoptioned
01 Duh-Rango
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me months, please check past posts at Tom Patterson's site. I'm rep=
lacing the carpet in my 1969 Overlander right after fixing the water heat=
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Message Number: 9
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 05:55:15 -0700 (MST)
From: "Karl F. Larsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: G6 to remove clearcoat - A BIG NO!
Thanks Arlan for the lead on Klean Strip Aircraft from Walmart. I will buy
some and strip the small places where clear coat still clings to my '66 23
foot Land Yacht.
On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Globetrotter64 wrote:
> Just catching up on the airstream emails after traveling and saw the
> questions on using Nuvite G6 to remove clearcoat.
> On our 1964 trailer we stripped mostly with the Citra Strip. This product
> is great because it is much easier on the hands and clings very well to the
> trailer (we did not even use gloves). On one side of the trailer that had
> been refinished, the Citra Strip did not even faze the clearcoat, even after
> being left on for hours. The spray can Klean-Strip Aircraft stripper (cheap,
> from Walmart) worked great for that part. We found it MUCH easier to use
> than other powerful paste or liquid stripper, and you do use less too.
>
--
Yours Truly,
- Karl F. Larsen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (505) 524-3303 -
http://www.zianet.com/k5di/
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Message Number: 10
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 08:32:31 -0600
From: "Jeff Griffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tow Vehicle Weight
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<P>Hello All </P>
<P>Is there a recommended weight ratio between tow vehicle and trailer? </P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>For example, should the tow vehicle weigh at lease 75% of the trailer's
weight. (4500# tow vehicle, 6000# trailer).
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<P> </P>
<P>Thanks in Advance </P>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Jeff Griffin
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Message Number: 11
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:33:46 -0800
From: "Terry Rockfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Elkton, FL 1971 A/S
I have been moving and reloading software. I lost some mail from VAC. One
e-mail concerning who could check out a 1971 overlander that I just bough
recently.
I checked with jacksoncenter and usually it was 250. But they said due to
age it would take a lot longer and did not give a firm quote. I can
prbably iron things out as i go along.
I am driving toflordia in last week of march, in my Van.
AS won,t be ready. But wondered if anyone would mind if I stopped by in
Elekton to check out the Vintage AS's.
TARockfield at Large
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Message Number: 12
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:57:31 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 73 Center bath mirror
Daisy. The original mirror catch was an opaque colored plastic part. Andy
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Message Number: 13
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 10:17:43 -0600
From: "gina terrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hardwood floors
How long did it take you to put in the tiles?
Gina
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>Phil -
>
>Flooring depends on application as so much does in life as a trailerite.
>Not
>having carpeting is a great idea as trailers get tracked in dirt so quickly
>despite the best prevention. A small kitchen broom is all I need to clean
>up
>fast. I do have carpet runners which come out for old fashioned beating,
>and
>thus save the space otherwise occupied with a vacuum.
>
> I went with an inexpensive but good looking self adhesive vinyl tile for
>two
>reasons. The profile was identical in depth as the original 1966 linoleum,
>so
>resizing wood work was not an issue, it was very fast and easy to do. AND
>as
>it gets banged up individual tiles are easily removed with a heat gun and
>new
>tiles quickly replaced. At about $1 to $1.50 a tile I can afford to be
>quite
>vain about my floor. Thus each spring I plan to place a couple new pieces
>in
>high traffic areas. I have a light hardwood parquet pattern which looks
>good,
>and cleans easy. At campgrounds and fairgrounds floors get messy quick!
>
>Alex In Indiana
>66 Safari & Overlander
>WBCCI 8728
>
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Message Number: 14
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:51:43 -0600
From: "dmeyers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Small Calif Trailer for sale
I saw that Caravel last weekend. It's an early 70's - looks just like my
75GT but shorter. It's REALLY rough. Bad dents in two panels and a big
patch on the roof. After seeing the outside I wasn't interested enough to
find the owner to ask for a look inside. It did have an interesting
modification - a spare tire carrier under the front of the trailer.
Darryl
75 GlobeTrotter
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Message Number: 5
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 20:41:02 -0800
From: Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Small Calif Trailer for sale
Those of you in California looking for a shorter trailer, my sister phoned
and said that there is a 1965 to 1968 17' Caravel in North Sacramento for
$1000 OBO. She said the condition is original but rough condition, and
seems to be complete. Definitely not a drive away and use kind of deal,
this will take some restoration time and $$.
No other details. Phone number is 916-765-9197.
RJ
VintageAirstream.com
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Message Number: 15
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 14:52:05 -0700
From: "Bob Hightower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Membership revisited
You may recall that I was wavering on WBCCI/VAC membership some time ago. I
elected to become a 'friend' of the VAC, understanding that I would be able
to attend VAC rallies, but not WBCCI rallies.
Well, I got a letter today in response to my reply to Kathy Adams,
membership director of the WBCCI , as to why I was not renewing my
membership.
In that letter, and I quote, she says "As a member of the Vintage Club and
WBCCI you are able to attend a Vintage event. If you are not a member of
WBCCI, you cannot attend any Vintage Event". End quote.
So, what's the deal? Sounds like arm twisting to me.
Bob Hightower
'76 Sov
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Message Number: 16
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:59:23 -0500
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tow Vehicle Weight
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Jeff, a couple of years ago at the International Rally, one of our =
members gave a very interesting talk on "the physics of towing".
During his talk he made the point that physics shows us that lighter =
objects tend to follow heavier ones. So, if you believe him (and my high =
school physics teacher) then your tow vehicle should be heavier that the =
trailer. This is not possible with most modern trailer/tow vehicle =
combinations, and most people get along quite well with the trailer =
being heavier, but more and more of these people are feeling that it is =
necessary to spend big bucks on hitches such as Hensley in order to keep =
things under control. Since we have vintage trailers we have an =
advantage in that most of us can have a tow vehicle that out weighs the =
trailer.
That said, in my 20+ years of towing experience tells me that I want the =
heaviest tow vehicle I can get with the longest wheel base available. =
The difference in how the whole unit handles while going down the road =
in all different conditions is quite noticeable, just ask my wife, who =
is now happy to drive my 6000+ pound pickup while towing our 5000# =
trailer.
While towing my mpg's did not differ much from 10mpg (gasoline engine) =
no matter what size engine/truck I had. My current truck has a Cummins =
diesel engine in it and we average 15 mpg while keeping up with the flow =
of the traffic.
Scott Scheuermann
1960 Overlander (26 foot, single axle)
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Hello All=20
Is there a recommended weight ratio between tow vehicle and trailer?=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1960 Overlander (26 foot, single =
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<P>Hello All </P>
<P>Is there a recommended weight ratio between tow vehicle and =
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<DIV></DIV>For example, should the tow vehicle weigh at lease 75% of =
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Message Number: 17
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:25:08 -0500
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Membership revisited
Bob,
As I understand it the VAC leadership is dealing with clarifying this issue.
Kathy either does not understand the issue, or does not understand the VAC.
It is different from the other WBCCI Intraclubs in that it does NOT require
WBCCI membership. Please contact the VAC leadership for further
clarification. - Monitor Scott.
The VAC leaders are:
Noland Vogt: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rick Davis: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tom Howarth: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wayne Moore: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Don Perry: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Hightower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:52 PM
Subject: [VAC] Membership revisited
> You may recall that I was wavering on WBCCI/VAC membership some time ago.
I
> elected to become a 'friend' of the VAC, understanding that I would be
able
> to attend VAC rallies, but not WBCCI rallies.
>
> Well, I got a letter today in response to my reply to Kathy Adams,
> membership director of the WBCCI , as to why I was not renewing my
> membership.
>
> In that letter, and I quote, she says "As a member of the Vintage Club and
> WBCCI you are able to attend a Vintage event. If you are not a member of
> WBCCI, you cannot attend any Vintage Event". End quote.
>
> So, what's the deal? Sounds like arm twisting to me.
>
> Bob Hightower
> '76 Sov
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