Some folks will complain even if you hang them with a new rope. Others just waste balloon juice.
Alan Sent from my iPad Air > On Oct 22, 2015, at 1:09 AM, Krister Ekstrom <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi, > Very well said Mark, but what i ask myself is does it matter what we as beta > testers might say? For every release there has been and probably will be a > tsunami of negativity and complaining and even if what has been complained > about would be fixed to perfection they complain about the fixes. Either it’s > too bloody late or there’s too little or too much of everything. I’m the type > of guy who upgrades every app and every Os to see what features are there and > if there are bugs, well shrug, nobody’s perfect. As i said before i think > it’s strange that Apple gets so many complaints about things that aren’t even > their fault like apps that are not upgraded and so don’t work or such. In my > time on Windows there wasn’t anything like this complaining. Nobody ever said > that ”freedom scientific or GW Micro or Dolphin has abandoned us and don’t > give a fig about us”. So are there bugs? Of course there probably are, no big > chunk of code is ever bug free. Should we report them? Yes politely and with > enough info to make the folks aware of the problem but i wonder if that’s the > case when i hear the tone here and on other forums where blind folks and > Apple are the common denominator. > > /Krister > >> 22 okt. 2015 kl. 08:33 skrev M. Taylor <[email protected]>: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> I just want to let those of you, who are not beta testers, know, is that >> with any company, be it Apple, Microsoft, Sony, etc, reporting a problem, >> regardless of how important it may appear to be to the tester, is not always >> addressed immediately or, in some cases, ever. >> >> It has been my experience that the larger an organization becomes, the less >> responsive, in terms of addressing non-mission critical problems, it may >> appear to be to external testers. >> >> All we, as beta testers can do, is to make the organization aware of the >> problems and hope that it will manage to address said problems in a future >> release. >> >> In my opinion, beta testing is a somewhat thankless job because, when bugs >> get squashed, no one pays attention to them or cares how or why they were >> resolved and when bugs remain, people think that the testers are not testing >> well enough. >> >> To me, beta testing, not just for Apple but for any company is my way of >> showing appreciation for those things in life which I may now take for >> granted; things like clean drinking water, electricity, personal liberties, >> talking ATM machines, audio-described movies, screen readers, refreshable >> Braille displays, smart phones, hearing aids, medicine, etc. >> >> Beta testing is also my way of showing my respect for those blind and >> low-vision pioneers who came before me and it is a means by which I may, in >> some small part, leave a legacy to those who will follow. >> >> So, when a product is released with a number of bugs, please try to keep in >> mind that were it not for beta testers, that number would most likely be >> much higher. >> >> Most Sincerely, >> >> Mark >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the VIPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your VIPhone list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> [email protected] >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the VIPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your VIPhone list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > [email protected] > > The archives for this list can be searched at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the VIPhone list. 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