>From the get go, when you come to think in more simple terms, isn’t seeing a glowing pipe pumping out six time more energy than is going in a de facto violation of the 2nd law of thermodynamics?
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > I was going to write this post, but you beat me to it. Your post is more > elegant and persuasive than mine would have been. > > > This common flaw in the reason and logic that most people use, this 2nd > law of thermodynamics hangup, is going to make the experimental revelation > showing BEC activity in LENR too hard for people to take. They just won’t > believe their lying eyes. > > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Kevin O'Malley <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> O'Malley <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> ***Then as long as those theories can explain this experimental >>>> result, everything is in good shape. Why would you say "That's not good"? >>>> >>>> This is an experimental finding, not a theory. >>>> >>> >>> It is not good because the laws of thermodynamics are probably right and >>> therefore this experimental result is probably wrong. >>> >> ***Sounds a lot like the entire field of LENR. >> >> >> >> >> >>> Until it is widely replicated most people will assume it is wrong. >>> >> ***Let me see -- LENR, 14,700 replications. Most people still assume >> it's wrong. There is the distinct possibility that this BEC experiment >> could be widely replicated and most people will assume it is wrong. >> >> >> >> >>> The problem there is that people seldom try to replicate results which >>> appear to be wrong on the face of it. >>> >> ***What we have here is an experimental piece of the puzzle that shows >> BECs absorb energy and could account for the 2nd miracle of missing gammas >> in LENR. Y E Kim's theory has been given yet another leg up. First, it >> was high temperature BECs forming. Second, it is that BECs absorb energy. >> BECs do not "disobey" the 2nd law of thermodynamics any more than plasmas >> do. >> >> >>> >>> - Jed >>> >>> >> >
