http://arxiv.org/pdf/1202.4827v1.pdf
*Two coupled Jaynes-Cummings cells* ** We develop a theoretical framework to evaluate the energy spectrum, stationary states, and dielectric susceptibility of two Jaynes-Cummings systems coupled together by the overlap of their respective longitudinal field modes, and *we solve and characterize the combined system for the case that the two atoms and two cavities share a single quantum of energy.* Here is how two entangled particles share a single quantum of energy You will notice that the each particle gets a part of the FREQUENCY of the quantum based on the coupling constant. See figures 3 and 4. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > Axil, you show that you have no understanding of the second law. The laws > of thermodynamics simply define how energy must flow in a system and how > the system must behave as a result of the energy. The laws do not address > the source. In the case of Rossi, he has an obvious source that cannot be > identified. This source has no relationship to the laws of thermodynamic. > Nevertheless, the energy that results from this source, regardless of how > it is created, MUST follow the laws of thermodynamics. NO VIOLATION > EXISTS. > > Ed Storms > > On Jun 3, 2013, at 10:57 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > > From the get go, when you come to think in more simple terms, isn’t seeing > a glowing pipe pumping out six time more energy than is going in a de facto > violation of the 2nd law of thermodynamics? > > > > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I was going to write this post, but you beat me to it. Your post is more >> elegant and persuasive than mine would have been. >> >> This common flaw in the reason and logic that most people use, this 2nd >> law of thermodynamics hangup, is going to make the experimental revelation >> showing BEC activity in LENR too hard for people to take. They just won’t >> believe their lying eyes. >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> ***Then as long as those theories can explain this experimental >>>>> result, everything is in good shape. Why would you say "That's not good"? >>>>> >>>>> This is an experimental finding, not a theory. >>>>> >>>> >>>> It is not good because the laws of thermodynamics are probably right >>>> and therefore this experimental result is probably wrong. >>>> >>> ***Sounds a lot like the entire field of LENR. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Until it is widely replicated most people will assume it is wrong. >>>> >>> ***Let me see -- LENR, 14,700 replications. Most people still assume >>> it's wrong. There is the distinct possibility that this BEC experiment >>> could be widely replicated and most people will assume it is wrong. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> The problem there is that people seldom try to replicate results which >>>> appear to be wrong on the face of it. >>>> >>> ***What we have here is an experimental piece of the puzzle that shows >>> BECs absorb energy and could account for the 2nd miracle of missing gammas >>> in LENR. Y E Kim's theory has been given yet another leg up. First, it >>> was high temperature BECs forming. Second, it is that BECs absorb energy. >>> BECs do not "disobey" the 2nd law of thermodynamics any more than plasmas >>> do. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> - Jed >>>> >>>> >>> >> > >