Yes, that definitively is one promising approach (and I hope that we would
make a rough impact analysis before deciding on it and implementing it,
once the structures and data are there).

I wonder if there are other approaches that are somehow more subtle. But I
cannot express what I am looking for, and maybe yours is already
sufficiently close to optimal.

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:00 AM Daniel Kinzler <>

> Am 16.09.2016 um 19:41 schrieb Denny Vrandečić:
> > Yes, there should be some connection between items and lexemes, but I am
> still
> > hazy about details on how exactly this should look like. If someone could
> > actually make a strawman proposal, that would be great.
> >
> > I think the connection should live in the statement space, and not be on
> the
> > level of labels, but that is just a hunch. I'd be happy to see proposals
> incoming.
> My thinking is this:
> On some Sense of a Lexeme, there is a Statement saying that this Sense
> refers to
> a given concept (Item). If the property for stating this is well-known, we
> can
> track the Sense-to-Item relationship in the database. We can then
> automatically
> show the lexeme's lemma as a (pseudo-)alias on the Item, and perhaps also
> use it
> (and maybe all forms of the lexeme!) for indexing the item for search.  So:
>   from ( Lexeme - Sense - Statement -> Item )
>   we can derive ( Item -> Lexeme - Forms )
> In the beginning of Wikidata, I was very reluctant about the software
> knowing
> about "magic" properties. Now I feel better about this, since wikidata
> properties are established as a permanent vocabulary that can be used by
> any
> software, including our own.
> --
> Daniel Kinzler
> Senior Software Developer
> Wikimedia Deutschland
> Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.
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