Agree wholeheartedly. Don't need details but a summary list of chapters and the record of who voted would be very welcome.
I was dismayed that this information was private. It seems like transparency of basic information like this should be the goal here. I don't think detailed information is necessary. Like WM UK, WM NYC was transparent about the process and outcome of its voting. It would be a real drag to have to look at each chapter's recent events to see if this information is recorded locally. Why not have it publicly viewable, collected in one place? I don't see a downside here. - Erika *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle* <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle> Secretary, Wikimedia NYC <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Pharos <[email protected]> wrote: > In fact, for those who have access to it, there is a list of statements at > the bottom of that page, listing statements from each chapthorg on their > method and time of voting: > > https://chapters.wikimedia.ch/Appointment_process/2016/Voting#Statements > > For example, our entry says: > > "NYC: Decided by open public meeting on April 13, 2016." > > I think it might be best to make that whole section publicly viewable. > > Thanks, > Pharos > > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:24 PM, Andrew Gray <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Yes, for clarity, this is what I meant - a public list of who has > > voted so far (or who hasn't - it's much the same thing, as the overall > > electorate is known), but not a list of the votes. > > > > I'm quite happy with confidential voting - either fully secret or, as > > Itzik says, just confidential until the end of the vote. > > > > But knowing *who* has voted would be quite useful. Ultimately, the > > chapters represent large chunks of the community, and if the chapter > > isn't doing its job then it's good their members know about it in > > order to chase them. Discovering afterwards that your chapter hasn't > > voted is interesting, but not very useful at making sure votes get > > cast while there's still time - and ultimately, I think that last part > > is what we all want to achieve :-) > > > > A. > > > > On 3 May 2016 at 16:21, Liam Wyatt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > It seems like people are talking about two separate things at the same > > time: > > > > > > - Some people are taking about publishing *the votes* (either before, > or > > > after the election has finished) > > > > > > - Some people are talking about publishing *the list of who has voted* > > > right now. > > > > > > It is this second thing that I understood to be the request being made, > > and > > > it is also completely consistent with the way the community-election > > works > > > (where the voter, but not their vote, is published immediately). I also > > > wouldn't think that publishing the names of the Chapters that have > voted > > > (and therefore identifying which ones have not yet) is still consistent > > > with the preference that the *vote itself* remain private. > > > > > > So, in order for the community (and those of us who are members of > > Chapters > > > in particular) to encourage the chapters have not yet voted to do so, > > would > > > it be possible to please publish a table on Meta of the list of > > > voting-eligible organisations, and a "tick" next to their name if they > > have > > > indeed already submitted their vote. [NOT who they voted for] > > > > > > Thanks, > > > -Liam > > > > > > > > > -- > > > wittylama.com > > > Peace, love & metadata > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > -- > > - Andrew Gray > > [email protected] > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
