Thanks for the link, GorillaWarfare. I've heard comments similar to James' from others, indicating that people have lost faith that Arbcom will investigate and take action based on evidence of COI editing submitted in private to Arbcom. If, as you say, Arbcom finds that investigating these reports requires a ton of work and that investigations are prone to error, then it seems to me that we should be looking at addressing this problem in new ways, such as my proposal that WMF become much more active in enforcing the TOS in these kinds of situations and in deterring this kind of misconduct.
Pine On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 2:26 PM, James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com> wrote: > If one submits material regarding undisclosed paid editing to arbcom and > there is no reply, it is fairly obvious that few cases would continue to be > submitted. Expecially when arbcom makes it clear they have no desire to do > this follow up. > > J > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Sydney Poore <sydney.po...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Thanks, Molly. I encouraged people interested in understanding the > > different views on the topic as it relates to Wikipedia English (and > > perhaps other wikis) to read this discussion. > > > > Sydney > > > > Sydney Poore > > User:FloNight > > Co-founder Kentucky Wikimedians, > > Co-founder WikiWomen User Group, > > Co-founder WikiConference North America > > Board member of Wiki Project Med Foundation, > > Member of Simple Annual Plan Grant Committee > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 2:11 PM, GorillaWarfare < > > gorillawarfarewikipe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Following up, this is the conversation I was remembering: > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Harassment/Archive_11 > > > > > > – Molly (GorillaWarfare) > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 11:59 AM, GorillaWarfare < > > > gorillawarfarewikipe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Pine, > > > > > > > > We quite rarely receive requests to look into suspicions of paid > > editing > > > > based on private information. We have historically been reluctant to > > act > > > on > > > > them for a number of reasons: it's very prone to error, it's often an > > > > incredible amount of work, and we open ourselves up personally to > legal > > > > risk by doing so. I believe there was some discussion on this onwiki > > > around > > > > six months ago, I will try to dig up a link. > > > > > > > > – Molly (GorillaWarfare) > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > -- > James Heilman > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > > The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine > www.opentextbookofmedicine.com > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
