Taking everything and their dog as "harassment", without due process to verify it, and issuing punishments one can't appeal based on that, creates a feeling of fear and insecurity in the events; and provides a tool easy to abuse by clever persons who understood how to game the system, as a vehicle for severe harassment itself.
This creates an unsafe and unfriendly space in the events,and should really be looked at. Best, Paulo A sexta, 21 de jun de 2019, 06:57, Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> escreveu: > First of all I don’t know the context of this conversation. I know that I > personnally find that the actions of Trust& Safety very valuable and > wise. I totally support and trust their judgement. > > I am tired of seing their work criticized, and do not appreciate official > chapter representants and employees publicly supporting alleged offenders, > showing no aknowledgement of the fact that this is very toxic for alleged > victims, and does not help to change attitude towards issues of > harrassment. > > How can we feel safe in the movement if the decisions of T&S are > questionned by official members of our movement? > > Nattes à chat > > > > > > Le 21 juin 2019 à 01:04, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> a > écrit : > > >> > >> It is extremely disappointing, and *extremely typical* of the Wikimedia > >> movement, to see an entire thread like this dedicated to supporting > someone > >> who Trust & Safety has found to have acted in such a way that they had > to > >> intervene. It is even more disappointing to see a person who was > affected > >> by his actions told "this is not your story" and "it may help you when > you > >> grow some sensitivity and respect this experience, the > >> feelings of others." > >> > >> If you're wondering why women leave the Wikimedia movement, and why > >> Wikimedia has such a bad harassment problem in general, just reflect on > >> this thread. > > > > > > Thank you, Molly, for expressing what I was just trying to summon the > > energy to write. > > > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
