On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Gryllida <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, 18 Mar 2014, at 20:41, [email protected] wrote: >> Steven, you don't put someone on moderation because they're asking >> uncomfortable questions. You provided no evidence of your accusations >> of "personal attack". > > Just by evidence of two instances of such attacks in this thread? One of them > also involves legal threats, something that is -- iirc -- banned on-wiki at > Wikimedia projects.
While legal threats are banned on the wiki projects, the mailing lists are managed differently, and there are differences in expectations of behaviour (and dispute resolution) for the mailing lists. One of the key differences is that while WMF hosts the list, the emails are effectively immediately distributed across the global and the contents cant be centrally modified as they are on a wiki. User disputes onwiki are typically not included in google search results. However nasty things said on this mailing list are googlable and cant be hidden. Another difference is that "List administrators have complete control of every aspect of the mailing list, they can change individual list members' settings, moderate senders, change settings of the list, and more." https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists And the list admins can play with any setting and there is no logs for list members to inspect. I think we should note the behavioural guidelines of this list on the mailman listinfo page, which is mentioned in the footer of every email from this list. I am also scratching my head about whether the WMF mailing lists are covered by the WMF terms of use. Perhaps not. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Terms_of_use#What_services_are_covered_by_the_terms_of_use -- John Vandenberg _______________________________________________ Wikimediaau-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
