Yaron, > - Is CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md now really mandatory?
Always looking for more inputs, but it would be great if you can provide a proposition. Scenario: I am new contributor looking at your repository (possibly would've contributed to couple of repos in the past in Github). As a maintainer of this repo, how do you want me to know that my interactions with your product, which might be, but not limited to (1) creating an improvement with you or the community on your extension (2) asking for review on an improvement with you or the community on your extension is secured under the CoC ? Now, I see this arguments questioning why we would even need a CoC. From my own experience and interactions with other newcomers - I can assure you that not everyone got through the first few months on #wikimedia-dev well. And this do vary a lot when you add diversity to the community (you know how that works). Anyway, I dont want to defend the need for CoC - as this is a well studied and documented one. The next question is always 'is something' better than 'nothing'. Also, I see that the comments on the Gerrit patch was to the point and might have been hurtful to you - but lets not forget that the commit message on the revert PR[1] was just "No Thanks" and self merged. Now this is not "what-about-ism" - but probably I think the push back would've been way lighter if you would've (1) explained your case clearly there in the commit and (2) probably came up with alternatives so we could push forward and (3) not merged it yourself. [1] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/357614/ -- Tony Thomas https://mediawiki.org/wiki/User:01tonythomas -- On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 3:26 PM, Stephan Gambke <s7ep...@protonmail.com> wrote: > > > Frankly the harsh response from proponents and handling here, to the > > point of bypassing normal processes and misusing rights to enforce > > something that was never even decided as a community, seems completely > > at odds with the spirit and intent of the CoC in the first place. If > > we're trying to make contributors feel welcome, this is if anything > > doing the exact opposite. > > This! > > It is not the first time that individual developers have misused their +2 > rights to sidestep community processes and enforce their political views. > It is this kind of repeated overreach and casual disregard for the wishes > and opinions of the repo owner that makes people choose GitHub over Gerrit. > > It is a pity that there is even a need for a CoC, but I am more than happy > to have one if it helps to make people feel more comfortable. But > insinuating that not wanting that file in each and every repo would imply > disagreement with the code itself is not only insulting, it has a chilling > effect on the communication here. And by now, since this has happened and > has been called out repeatedly in this discussion, I consider it > intentional. > > The whole issue is another nice demonstration of why "benevolent" > dictatorship and decisions taken "for your own good" do not work. > > Incidentally, what is the procedure to request removal of +2 rights for > somebody on my extension repo? > > Stephan > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
