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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 1:34
PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WCA Weighs In
Against Net Neutrality
Actually,
My Outlook Express does the same thing when I
reply. I hate it. But I do not know how to turn it
off.
Does any one know how to turn off the feature
that includes the bar on the left, when I reply myself?
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless
Broadband
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 10:07
PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WCA Weighs In
Against Net Neutrality
>why do you do it?
I'm a top poster. I hate having to
essentially re-read the previous email to find the added reply comments
(especially when it's a long email and you ultimately just find an added
"yeah me too" way down at the bottom). I find that incredibly
annoying. I prefer replies where you pick-out what you're replying to
and copy it to the top along with your reply. Concise. The
originals are all there below for reference if you want them, but you don't
have to scroll down to find the reply. You can more clearly see the
chain of replies too (when each reply edits the same body, it quickly
becomes impossible).
I know it's a religious preference / argument
and there's no right or wrong, only a preference ... but
you wanted to know "why", so ...
peace
Rich
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 8:17
PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WCA Weighs In
Against Net Neutrality
You guys that post using this incredibly
annoying bar at the left... why do you do it? It makes c
onversational email impossible...
Read on below. comments are
prefaced with >>>>>
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 1:37
PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WCA Weighs In
Against Net Neutrality
I respectfully disagree and think that
WCA's position of less regulation and allowing network operators operate
their networks how they want is the right approach. Net neutrality
legislation opens the door for content companies and your subscribers to
force open and equal access to all content on the Internet.
>>>> I don't see
the problem with content companies and subscribers having equal access
to each other. That, after all... IS WHAT I
PROVIDE!
How many WISPs on this list are
limiting P2P traffic separate from other traffic? I'll bite... I
am.
>>>> Me too, but this has
little to do with net neutrality, since peer to peer sharing involves
HOSTING, and that I specifically don't generally allow.
Terms of Service has covered hosting forever - since long before Napster
was someone's dream.
How many WISPs on this list are
prioritizing VoIP traffic separate from other traffic? I'll
bite. I am. And I only prioritize VoIP traffic to and from
my own VoIP servers and not VoIP traffic from Vonage or anyone
else.
>>>>> I will
eventually, and I will be entirely neutral as to whose servers it goes
to...after all, if I can't serve my customer's needs, then what
the heck am I? A fraud?
How many WISPs on this list are filtering
NetBIOS, RPC, and other traffic deemed malicious? I'll bite... I
am again.
>>>>>
Yeah. Me too. Again, this has nothing whatsoever
to do with limiting access to content.
Now the last one, I can't imagine being
sued over, but I hope you see my point.
These controls are important for me to
manage my network and ensure a quality of service my customers
expect.
Net neutrality takes these controls
away.
>>>> I seriously doubt
that.
Dave
989-837-3790 x 151
989-837-3780 fax
129 Ashman St, Midland, MI 48640
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 3:56
PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WCA Weighs
In Against Net Neutrality
The WCA is showing its true colors.. the WCA
stands for the interests of
Verizon, AT&T Wireless, Sprint,
and the other big Cell Carriers (many of
which incidentally are
owned by AT&T, Bell South, and Verizon RBOCs). With
statements like this, I don't believe that the WCA will ever be
looking out
for the interests unlicensed WISPs.
If you
think that blocking net neutrality is the path to "controlling your
own network", you have missed the entire point. Without
effective net
neutrality legislation, the RBOCs and the CableCos
will own the internet and
tariff the hell out of the traffic that
flows through it. It will be one
more nail in the coffin of
the mom-n-pop operator that can't afford to pay
tariffs to get
their subscribers access to "premium" content. It will drive
the customers of small operators to switch to the RBOCs and
CableCos because
those networks will be the only "fast" networks
or the only ones that have
"access" to everything on the
internet.
- Larry Yunker
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA
General List" <[email protected]>
Sent:
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: [WISPA] WCA Weighs In
Against Net Neutrality
> WCA Weighs In Against Net
Neutrality
>
> http://www.telecomweb.com/tnd/17310.html
>
<http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/telecomweb.com/;sz=180x150;ord=021450>
>
>
The *Wireless Communications Association International* (WCA) has come
> down against network-neutrality legislation, joining one of
the pressure
> groups that has been opposing moves in *Congress
> </search/?query=Congress>* on the polarizing issue
(/TelecomWeb news
> break, /June 15).
>
>
Representing about 250 companies in broadband wireless carriage and
> manufacturing, WCA has teamed with the recently formed
> *NETCompetition.org* group organized by Scott Cleland,
president of
> *Precursor LLC*, and which bills itself as an
"e-forum" for debate but
> clearly positions itself among the
vocal anti-net-neutrality factions.WCA
> claims its motive is
to promote growth and innovation in advanced
> communications
over broadband wireless by protecting the business from
>
net-neutrality regulation
>
> "With spectrum a scarce and
expensive resource, it is imperative that
> wireless broadband
providers remain free to manage their own networks,"
> said WCA
President Andrew Kreig in a prepared statement. "Net-neutrality
> regulation would discourage innovation and investment in more
competitive
> broadband choices to all Americans. Our member
companies are investing
> heavily in WiMAX
</search/?query=WiMAX> or other '4G' types of
>
next-generation broadband competitive alternatives. Our companies are
part
> of the competitive solution, not part of the regulatory
problem."
>
> Other supporters of NETCompetition.org
include the *American Cable
> Association*, *CTIA-The Wireless
Association*, the *National Cable &
> Telecommunications*
*Association*, the *United States Telecommunications
>
Association*, *Advance/Neuhouse Communications*, *Alltel*, *AT&T*,
> *BellSouth*, *Cingular*, *Comcast*, *Qwest
</search/?query=Qwest>
> Communications International*,
*Sprint*, *Time Warner Cable*, *Verizon
>
</search/?query=Verizon> Communications* and *Verizon
Wireless*.
>
> With the WCA's membership, Cleland remarks
that next-generation wireless
> broadband companies are
concerned net neutrality regulation would
> discourage
investment, adding, "More innovation and competition are the
>
antidotes for net-neutrality concerns, not backward-looking government
> micromanagement."
>
> The development comes after
key *House* committees and a full House floor
> vote passed a
new video-franchise and telecom bills after defeating
>
repeated amendment attempts to codify stronger net-neutrality laws and
to
> give the *Federal Communications Commission* greater
powers.
>
> The debate over net neutrality - with many pro
and con pressure groups
> frantically trying to get attention -
now turns to the *Senate *Committee
> on Commerce Science and
Technology, where a massive communications-reform
> bill also
allegedly lacks strong net-neutrality provisos as well as to the
> Senate Judiciary Committee that is considering separate net
neutrality
> bills in an antitrust, anti-monopoly context (/see
related stories in
> today's Telecom Policy
Report/).
>
> The Senate Commerce Committee may mark up
its draft on Thursday (reschuled
> from tomorrow) while
Senate Judiciary's Subcommittee on Antitrust,
> Competition
Policy and Consumer Rights that same afternoon has slated a
>
hearing on the impact of the proposed AT&T/BellSouth merger (in
light of
> consolidating telcos becoming a factor in the
net-neutrality fight).
>
> --
>
>
>
Regards,
>
> Peter
> RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP
Strategist
> We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate
>
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>
>
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