The grand plan would be to make this an open "industry" standard and hope that all the gliding computers implement it. Make it modular and implement a couple of converters/synchronizers with central repository/format.
Until that happens I would like to have peer to peer XCSoar task sharing. Integrated into the task manager UI. One option is a central internet repository (something really simple) and internet transfer. But how many of us have PDAs with WIFI? Please let us know if you do. (I do). The repository could then be reused even for the "grand plan". Bluetooth and it's file transfer is a usability disaster. IR? Maybe, if the developers would care to program something for this ancient technology. SD Cards shuffling/sharing? My installation of XCSoar is on a SD card right now, but I could move it into the main memory if that would give me the task sharing functionality...Would people use that? I'll write about the "grand plan" later. Tibor On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 00:37, Roman Stoklasa <rst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Tibor, > > this is a great idea, in my opinion! I really like it! > > But I'm afraid, that the real usefulness will be depended on competition > organizers, whether they will be willing to "offer" such "strange service" > (= providing the task definition), which will be barely useful for the > majority of competitors with SeeYou Mobile. :( > > However, let's think about it more deeply... :) > What is your idea of integrating such tool (for task recieving) to XCSoar? > 1) To have some extra program/tool, which can offer "downloading" some task > independently of XCSoar and save the task to XCSoarData directory as XML > task-file? > 2) Or as an integral part of i.e. task manager (for example some button > like "Get task from wireless source" -> choosing the source of tasks -> > choosing the task -> confirming it with "Load this task" button will > activate it in XCSoar)? > 3) any other possibility? > > The first alternative could be usefull also for the users with SeeYou > mobile, because such external program could save that task also for usage > with SeeYou Mobile/ConnectMe. The second alternative will be more > user-friendly, because users need not to think about installation of another > program to PDA/PNA, everything required will be provided with basic XCSoar > installaton. > > Personally, I would prefer the second option, because of the > "user-friendliness"... > > What do you think? > > > Roman. > > > P.S.: I can imagine, that XCSoar's website could offer some sort of "sync > server" services for tasks sharing and distributing... :) > > > > > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:48:44 +0100, Tibor Arpas <ti...@bidforfix.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I finally got to setting up XCSoar and replying some of my flights. >>> >>> From the first look the application is amazing! Eg. I liked the task >> >> editor a lot. I noticed some discussion about improving the task >> editor even further. That would be cool but I would like to express my >> wish. I would like the task editor to become unnecessary :-). Let me >> explain how come. >> >> I almost never create the tasks I fly, I just follow what the >> competition task setter prepared for us. Even if I do create a task I >> use desktop computer to analyze weather forecast and actual use of >> airspace before that. It would feel natural to enter the task to fly >> using the same desktop computer and just transfer it to the mobile >> device before flight. >> >> And my biggest problem is not actually laziness to enter the tasks on >> the small screen. For me it's this constant little fear that I made a >> mistake when entering the task and I will ruin my competition result >> because of that. I think there is a bad day like that for at least one >> person on every competition... Do you agree that getting the task >> into the device electronically, from a reliable source would be a >> great feature? >> >> Of course there is a couple of transfer technologies which would allow >> this. Http over wifi, files over bluetooth, IR, SD cards come to >> mind.. And lot more other considerations to make it a standard. >> >> The least amount of work and probably early testing/adoption could >> come from simple XCSoar to XCSoar task sharing. One person could enter >> the task into the (windows) XCSoar and the rest would simply transfer >> it from there. Quickly check if it's correct and fly :-). >> >> I have a lot more thoughts about this but would like to read some >> feedback first. How many XCSoar fellow users do you usually meet at a >> competition? (who PDAs/PNAs with WIF?) >> >> Thanks, >> Tibor >> >> P.S. >> The only related thing quick googling revealed: >> >> http://xcsoar.1045713.n5.nabble.com/Is-it-ok-to-define-Task-and-Task-Rules-from-PRF-file-instead-of-TSK-file-td2650648.html >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! >> Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better >> price-free! >> Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires >> February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d >> _______________________________________________ >> Xcsoar-user mailing list >> Xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xcsoar-user > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! 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