Good analysis. Time for everybody to take off those training wheels! :-)
On Aug 31, 2008, at 9:27 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Edgar brings up a good point, and that is 'what is zen'?
In the post below Edgar informally defined zen as 'unfiltered/raw
experience' and a 'way of life'. It is indeed both of those.
I (and most other people) also use the word 'zen' to refer to a
the process of learning (unlearning really) or transitioning out of
illusory world created by our rational mind into the unfiltered/raw
our Buddha Mind. This process, according to different schools, has
techniques such as meditation, koans, chanting, bowing, fasting,
vows, (and maybe visualizations? - YUK!), etc... As Edgar and JMJM
suggested, once the transition has been accomplished, these
no longer necessary - and in fact were never really necessary. They
like the training wheels you put on the back of a bicycle. They
help you in
the beginning, but can be discarded after you learn to ride. (And
constraining your ability to ride very well.) They never were really
necessary, but hopefully were helpful.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Of Edgar Owen
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Zen] Test of Character
Bill and Jody,
I have no problem at all with Bill's excellent description of a useful
technique. I would like to point out though that ultimately Zen
depend on any technique and has nothing to do with zazen or
zen is just experiencing things as they actually are no matter what
doing, or where one is. You can be sitting in zazen or doing anything
whatsoever in your daily life. As I think Bill would agree zen is
is always present no matter what one is doing, it's just a matter
around and seeing and directly experiencing.
Likewise zen is not something to be found just within the gates of
temple. There is no gate to enter to find zen. Thus mumon, the
(nonexistent) gate. Zen is everywhere in the universe. It is always
where you are right now.