Hi Edgar, Is there a need to "understand" what is "pure" and what is
"consciousness"? Don't we already had everything within us? Originally
pure. Originally sufficient. Originally unmovable. JM
Edgar Owen wrote:
>
> Jue Miao,
>
>
> Of course direct experience not words is real Zen. That in fact is
> what my papers all say though apparently you haven't read them. On
> this group however we have to use words to communicate. The question
> then becomes which words are more effective in eliciting or pointing
> at direct experience? That of course will be different for different
> people and different circumstances. By understanding what pure
> consciousness really is and what keeps us from directly experiencing
> it we can move beyond words to the direct experience itself.
>
> Edgar
>
>
>
> On Aug 29, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote:
>
>> Jody, You are right. The whole is the universal consciousness. All
>> practices leads to "sync" us with the whole. While someone like Edgar,
>> may analysis, theorize, understand, so called consciousness (just a
>> label), or chanting or breathing (just a dharma), surrender all minds,
>> big or small, rational or otherwise, is the quickest way to be synced
>> with "whole". Every which other way could be a detour or incomplete. JM
>>
>> Jody W. Ianuzzi wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello Bill,
>> >
>> > As much as I appreciate the Soto Zen methods of meditation, I am also
>> > curious about the Tibetan methods of focusing on an image of
>> > compassion and
>> > moving towards it. I will use both methods at different times.
>> >
>> > The chant I use is OM MANI PADME HUM. I found that when I learned it's
>> > meaning I appreciated it more. I think that using this chant is like
>> > counting breaths, it keeps your mind from jumping around.
>> >
>> > As I first discovered Buddhism I thought I had to pick which was best,
>> > now I
>> > feel that Buddhism is Buddhism and all the ways are the same. It's all
>> > part
>> > of the whole.
>> >
>> > I just appreciate learning something new every day.
>> > JODY
>> >
>> > JODY
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
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