JMJM, I'm not arguing with you. I don't really care what names we use such as Chan/zen, Chi/JUST THIS, po-TAY-to/po-TAH-to. I only care that when we use these terms we know what they mean, or at leat know whether we're referring to the same thing or not.
>From you postings I don't think JMJM's Chan is the same thing as Bill!'s Zen Buddhism, and especially not Bill!'s zen. I also don't think JMJM's Chi is the same as Bill!'s JUST THIS! >From what I've gleaned so far I think the major difference (and maybe the only difference) between Chan and Zen Buddhism is Chan's focus on Chi. I think the major difference between Chan and zen is spiritualism, which inlcudes things like Chi. I do enjoy our posting exchanges, even when I'm disapointed. I do like your title: JMJM, Roshi - American Zen Association. Do you like mine? Bill! ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/