Dear Donald and Bill I love the dharma discussions you both have from time to time. You both are good stimulants leading one to deep thought.
I'm rather busy in the last months and have no much friee time left to dedicate in the list. However, I appreciate the creation of interesting threads. It would be iinteresting the way that everyone in the list understands spirituality. It seems that we have a different way of understanding this word. In the process of good communication I have found important to establish an affinity with the different ways we all understand something. For instance, to me spirituality is the continuos evolution as human beings . Like our bodies and minds were our private garden. A beautiful garden that needs to be continuosly look after, taking care....A garden that is like this or like that because we choose to be. The Master Piece of our life. Making it real, truly alive, truthful, beatiful and good. Taking good care of the weeds. With peace, perseverance and disciplining our undisciplined minds. Greetings to all MAYKA --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - è¦ºå¦ç²¾æ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bill, What is your definition of spiritualism & spirituality in the > common day context? Thanks, JM > > Bill Smart wrote: > > > > JMJM, > > > > Thanks for your clarifications. > > > > Much of your description of Chi below sounds like Buddha Nature as > > that term is used in English translations of Japanese Zen Buddhist > > writings. Are you aware of this, and is there indeed a difference or > > are these two concepts the pretty much the same? > > > > Your comments about how people can use Chi are good examples of the > > spritualism I reject and classify as maya, but they're entertaining > > to think about. > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, > > Jue Miao Jing Ming - Ã¨Â¦ÂºÃ¥Â¦â¢Ã§Â²Â¾Ã¦ËÅ½ > > <chan.jmjm@> wrote: > > > > > > Good questions Bill, > > > > > > Chi is pronounced Cheee. In Japnese it is pronounced Ki, like > > ReiKi. > > > In new Chinese, it is spelled Qi, but pronounced the same. > > > > > > #2 is the detailed answer. Chi is the universal life force and > > > therefore it is always one and connected. Yet, it could be > > blocked. If > > > it were blocked in our body, like teachings of QiGong or > > acupuncture, > > > then we become sick or injured. It if blocks our mind, we becomes > > > crazy. These blockages are called karma in Buddhist terms and just > > > blockage in traditional Chinese medicine. > > > > > > Because Chi is pure energy, not visible, not in any form. There > > are > > > occasion people take vantage of its illusiveness. So beware, as > > pointed > > > out by Edgar. Some martial artists can hurt you even without > > touching > > > you. Doctors can heal you also without touching you. I have had > > both > > > type of experiences many times. > > > > > > Sometimes, Chi is used as a descriptor. For instance, your Chi is > > bad, > > > meaning you don't look too well. This calligraphy has no chi, > > meaning, > > > it flows bad. > > > > > > Let me know if you have any other question. > > > JM > > > > > > Bill Smart wrote: > > > > > > > > JMJM, > > > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Zen_Forum% > > 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > > Jue Miao Jing Ming - ÃÂ¨ÃÂ¦ÃÂºÃÂ¥ÃÂ¦Ã¢âÂ¢ÃÂ§ÃÂ²ÃÂ¾ÃÂ¦ÃÅ"Ã Â½ > > > > <chan.jmjm@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The Chi of us can be connected to Chi of others only if we don't > > > > use our > > > > > mind, eyes, mouth, nose, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think maybe some of our difficulty in communicating comes down > > to > > > > word usage. > > > > > > > > In the above sentence, do you mean: > > > > > > > > 1. I have my Chi and you have your Chi, but the Chi's are not now > > > > connected, and the only way (or at least part of the way) I can > > > > connect to your Chi is to not use my senses? > > > > > > > > 2. Or...I have Chi and you have Chi, and the Chi is the same Chi > > so > > > > by definition is already connected, but the only way I can sense > > or > > > > become aware of that connection is to not use my senses? > > > > > > > > 3. Or...something else? > > > > > > > > Also, is 'Chi' pronouced 'chee' (like the first part of 'cheese', > > > > or 'key' with a hard 'c' pronounced like 'k'; and is it also > > > > sometimes rendered into English as 'Qi'? > > > > > > > > Thanks...Bill! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! 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