Bill, Without control the desire for money arrises in their minds to which they are a slave to. From this comes actions to which are just in the view that they have, their view of life arises spontaneously for them. Their thinking arose without awareness and true control, from their view their actions are just, but they are in ignorance and do not know it. Not every mind has the same power to chose and change, many people project their own minds on others as if everyone is on equal ground from the start.
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill!" <billsm...@...> wrote: > > Anthony, > > I disagree. They have a motive for both: > > They sell drugs to obtain money and power. > > They take drugs because they do not like, or are not satisfied with, or do > not want to accept who they are. > > ...Bill! > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu <wuasg@> wrote: > > > > Bill, > > Â > > Go to Mexico, and be welcome by the drug kings on the highlighted words. > > Â > > In their minds, selling and taking drugs are 'spontaneous'. > > Â > > Anthony > > > > --- On Sat, 24/7/10, Bill! <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@> > > Subject: [Zen] Re: Compassion > > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Saturday, 24 July, 2010, 5:18 PM > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > Ed, Thats a good question. > > > > Merriam-Webster Online defines 'compassion' as: > > > > "A sympathetic consciousness of others' distress together with a desire to > > alleviate it." > > > > I don't know how to resolve this from a zen perspective since the concepts > > of 'others', 'distress', 'desire' and even to some exten 'alleviate' are > > illusory. > > > > I think 'compassion' is just one of those Buddhist teaching devices, like > > karma, to help you decide what to do before you are ready to decide that > > for yourself. > > > > I wouldn't worry too much about compassion. Just keep sitting, and eat when > > you're hungry, sleep when you're tired, wake when you're rested and deal > > with whatever comes up in a spontaneous manner without any goals or > > valutions in mind. > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > What is "compassion"? > > > > > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=define%3Acompassion&aq=f&\ > > > aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai > > > <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=define%3Acompassion&aq=f\ > > > &aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai> = > > > > > > --ED > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/