Bill, Buddha did not reject anything that is real, but he gave plenty of warning about reactions of senses (emotions are the strong ones). He says the senses are 'burning' with greed, anger and delusion. So don't play with fire. Anthony
--- On Sun, 8/8/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, 8 August, 2010, 8:18 AM Anthony, I do not believe Buddha taught ‘doing away with’ emotions, or rejecting anything else that is real. …Bill! From: zen_fo...@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Zen_ fo...@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Wu Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 4:40 AM To: zen_fo...@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? Artie, I believe you are saying that it is impossible or unwholesome to 'suppress' anger. It must be 'vented' one way or the other. Instead of harming others, the better way to vent it is targeting a neutral object (hope it is not a dog or cat). Looks like it takes a Buddha to do away with emotions. Or is there such a buddha? Anthony --- On Sat, 7/8/10, roloro1557 <roloro1...@yahoo. com> wrote: From: roloro1557 <roloro1...@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [Zen] Where's Mayka? To: zen_fo...@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Saturday, 7 August, 2010, 7:52 PM Mayka- Well, my understanding and experience is that one of the ways difficulties with emotions come is when one tries to artificially hold them in or control them. That is, emotions are natural responses, part of being human. Also that difficulties with emotions may come when one expresses them in the world without regard for consequences or the effect on others. In other words, emotions are not "bad" in themselves, it's how and when we express them that can cause difficulties. So, when I'm angry, I let myself be angry - but I really don't want to be violent or hurt anyone. So I will go off by myself and holler, and 'tell off' the person who has made me angry. If I am REALLY angry I may hit a stone with a stick, or punch a pillow, or something like that. I find the hollering, or hitting the stone, or punching the pillow dissipates the anger rather quickly for me and I return to a calmer state much more quickly. I agree with Bill! - emotions are physical responses. Also from the physical perspective, your body does not know the difference, whether you holler at the person you are mad at, or go off by yourself and holler. It's the hollering that is the point as far as your body is concerned. And, please understand, these are just my experiences, everyone has to find their own way :-) Artie --- In zen_fo...@yahoogrou ps.com, Maria Lopez <flordel...@. ..> wrote: > > Correction (I didn't read correctly your last paragraph posting): > > You said: "What I DON'T always do is act in the world on my emotions. If I > get angry I don't throw things or hit people. But I may go off by myself > somewhere and cuss and holler or whack a stone with a stick". > > My impression is that that it may increase the aggresion in one rather than >handling it. But I don't know. May I ask you to give more details and explain >what do you experience when you do in that way? > > I don't go by myself somewhere and cuss and holler or whack a stone with a > stick. If the emotion is very powerful and my practice is weak or absent > then I usually have an stormy tantrum temper which tends to be rather > destructive. But if I'm strong enough to hold there, then is when I deal > with the emotion through all mentioned in previous post to Anthony and Bill. > > Thanks > Mayka ============ ========= ========= === FROM: Over the hills and far away. . . The way to do is be. Lao Tzu __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5349 (20100807) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset. com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5349 (20100807) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset. com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5349 (20100807) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset. com
