Actually yelling is just a violent exhale. It would be followed by a violent inhale – gasping for breath.
This is an excellent breathing technique…Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Lopez Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:03 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Positive neural changes in the brain due to meditation? That sounds terrible Chris. And this is what I meant by reading or overhearing about breathing but with no experience at all into that. As a woman I should have encouraged her to yell as much as she wanted if that would help her to dilate better and cope her pain. I would have hold her hand very gentle but very firm and talk to her with reassurance and kindnest. LIstening to her voice, to her body.. Being one with her. Breathing with her. It's the heart acting as the guide that brings all that sensitivity, unity between a patient and a carer, nurse, doctor...I wonder if they can make an statistics about the heart too. Mayka --- On Wed, 20/10/10, ChrisAustinLane <ch...@austin-lane.net> wrote: From: ChrisAustinLane <ch...@austin-lane.net> Subject: Re: [Zen] Positive neural changes in the brain due to meditation? To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" <Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com> Cc: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" <Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com> Date: Wednesday, 20 October, 2010, 16:16 Thanks, Chris Austin-Lane Sent from a cell phone On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:16, Maria Lopez <flordel...@btinternet.com <http://de.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=flordeloto%40btinternet.com> > wrote: > If mindfulness is show in a scientific way the outcome will be a disaster I have more faith. Scientists are humans, and there has already been much suffering relieved by the meditation based therapies described in the article. Science is another human activity. I agree tho for physically therapies you want a person who does their work with grace. Your story reminded me of a nurse that was present while my wife was delivering our first born, with out pain meds and therefor rather loudly working at labor. At some point the yelling upset the nurse who yelled at my wife, "do your relaxing breathing that you learned." despite the indubitable power of conscious breathing, it was not a helpful thing to yell at that time. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5549 (20101020) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com