--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Lluís Mendieta <lme...@...> wrote:
> Hi, Ed
> Anyway, if hungarians and finnish speak same branch of language, and
they are not related genetically
> a) something is missing in study
> b) language has nothing to do with population origin

> With best wishes,

> Lluis

Hi Lluis,

a) There is almost always something missing from any hypothesis
concerning language origins.

b) Language has much to do with population origins, but there are other
factors too, like conquests, migrations, bottlenecks, etc., etc.

> With best wishes
> --ED

Note (1):

Hungarian language   [Closeup of Hungarian keyboard] 
</wiki/File:Specialkeys_hungarian_keyboard.jpg>   Closeup view of a
Hungarian keyboard  Alphabet </wiki/Hungarian_alphabet>   õ û
cs </wiki/Hungarian_cs>  · dz </wiki/Hungarian_dz>  · dzs
</wiki/Hungarian_dzs>  · gy </wiki/Hungarian_gy>
ly </wiki/Hungarian_ly>  · ny </wiki/Hungarian_ny>  · sz
</wiki/Hungarian_sz>  · ty </wiki/Hungarian_ty>  · zs
</wiki/Hungarian_zs>   Grammar </wiki/Hungarian_grammar>   Noun phrases
</wiki/Hungarian_noun_phrase>  · Verbs </wiki/Hungarian_verbs>
T-V distinction </wiki/T-V_distinction#Hungarian>   History
</wiki/History_of_the_Hungarian_language>    Sound correspondences with
other Uralic languages
languages>   Other features  Phonetics and phonology
Vowel harmony </wiki/Vowel_harmony#Hungarian>
Orthography </wiki/Hungarian_orthography>
(Old Hungarian script </wiki/Old_Hungarian_script> )Hungarian names
Hungarian and English  Hungarian pronunciation of English
English words from Hungarian
</wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Hungarian_origin>   Regulatory body
iences>    v </wiki/Template:Hungarian_language>  • d
</wiki/Template_talk:Hungarian_language>  • e

Hungarian (magyar nyelv) is a Uralic language </wiki/Uralic_languages> 
in the Ugric language </wiki/Ugric_languages>  group, distantly related
to Finnish, Estonian and a number of other minority languages spoken in
the Baltic states and northern European Russia eastward into central
Siberia. Finno-Ugric languages </wiki/Finno-Ugric_languages>  are not
related to the Indo-European languages that dominate Europe but have
acquired loan words </wiki/Loan_words>  from them.

Note (2)

Finnish is a member of the Baltic-Finnic </wiki/Baltic-Finnic_languages>
subgroup of the Finno-Ugric </wiki/Finno-Ugric_languages>  group of
languages which in turn is a member of the Uralic
</wiki/Uralic_languages>  family of languages. The Baltic-Finnic
subgroup also includes Estonian </wiki/Estonian_language>  and other
minority languages spoken around the Baltic Sea </wiki/Baltic_Sea> .

Finnish demonstrates an affiliation with the Uralic languages
</wiki/Uralic_languages>  in several respects including:

    * Shared morphology: ...

    * Shared basic vocabulary displaying regular sound correspondences
with the other Uralic languages.

Several theories exist as to the geographic origin of Finnish and the
other Uralic languages, but the most widely held view is that they
originated as a Proto-Uralic language </wiki/Proto-Uralic_language> 
somewhere in the boreal forest belt around the Ural Mountains region
and/or the bend of the middle Volga. The strong case for Proto-Uralic is
supported by common vocabulary with regularities in sound
correspondences, as well as by the fact that the Uralic languages have
many similarities in structure and grammar.

The Finns are more genetically similar to their Indo-European speaking
neighbors than to the speakers of the geographically close Finno-Ugric
language, Sami </wiki/Sami_language> . It has been argued that a native
Finnic-speaking population therefore absorbed northward migrating
Indo-European speakers who adopted the Finnic language, giving rise to
the modern Finns."

Note (3)

The relationship between Fuinnish and Hungarian languagges


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