Hi, Ed

As was said, I do not rely too much in such statistics,
As I said before, another genetic map related irish, bristish, basques and 
Just take the cut in the multidimension surface you need and you could get 
whatever you wish (among some limits...That could be very broad)

With best wishes


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ED 
  To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 6:14 PM
  Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas


  --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Lluís Mendieta <lme...@...> wrote:
  > Hi, Ed
  > Anyway, if hungarians and finnish speak same branch of language, and they 
are not related genetically
  > a) something is missing in study
  > b) language has nothing to do with population origin

  > With best wishes,

  > Lluis

  Hi Lluis,

  a) There is almost always something missing from any hypothesis concerning 
language origins.

  b) Language has much to do with population origins, but there are other 
factors too, like conquests, migrations, bottlenecks, etc., etc.

  > With best wishes
  > --ED

  Note (1):

        Hungarian language 
        Closeup view of a Hungarian keyboard 
        õ û
        cs · dz · dzs · gy
        ly · ny · sz · ty · zs 
        Noun phrases · Verbs
        T-V distinction 
        Sound correspondences with
        other Uralic languages 
        Other features 
        Phonetics and phonology
        Vowel harmony

        (Old Hungarian script)
        Hungarian names
        Hungarian and English 
        Hungarian pronunciation of English
        English words from Hungarian 
        Regulatory body 
        v . d . e 

  Hungarian (magyar nyelv) is a Uralic language in the Ugric language group, 
distantly related to Finnish, Estonian and a number of other minority languages 
spoken in the Baltic states and northern European Russia eastward into central 
Siberia. Finno-Ugric languages are not related to the Indo-European languages 
that dominate Europe but have acquired loan words from them.

  Note (2)

  Finnish is a member of the Baltic-Finnic subgroup of the Finno-Ugric group of 
languages which in turn is a member of the Uralic family of languages. The 
Baltic-Finnic subgroup also includes Estonian and other minority languages 
spoken around the Baltic Sea.

  Finnish demonstrates an affiliation with the Uralic languages in several 
respects including:

    a.. Shared morphology: ...
    a.. Shared basic vocabulary displaying regular sound correspondences with 
the other Uralic languages.
  Several theories exist as to the geographic origin of Finnish and the other 
Uralic languages, but the most widely held view is that they originated as a 
Proto-Uralic language somewhere in the boreal forest belt around the Ural 
Mountains region and/or the bend of the middle Volga. The strong case for 
Proto-Uralic is supported by common vocabulary with regularities in sound 
correspondences, as well as by the fact that the Uralic languages have many 
similarities in structure and grammar.

  The Finns are more genetically similar to their Indo-European speaking 
neighbors than to the speakers of the geographically close Finno-Ugric 
language, Sami. It has been argued that a native Finnic-speaking population 
therefore absorbed northward migrating Indo-European speakers who adopted the 
Finnic language, giving rise to the modern Finns."

  Note (3)

  The relationship between Fuinnish and Hungarian languagges



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