Lluis and ED: Don't know if this link can be useful to your conversation in connection with the vasque language...Anyway I paste here: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euskera Although link comes in Spanish there is the possibility that it could be found the same in English but I don't know for sure. Mayka
--- On Sun, 14/11/10, Lluís Mendieta <[email protected]> wrote: From: Lluís Mendieta <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, 14 November, 2010, 17:27 Hi, Ed Agreed. As was said, I do not rely too much in such statistics, As I said before, another genetic map related irish, bristish, basques and catalans. Just take the cut in the multidimension surface you need and you could get whatever you wish (among some limits...That could be very broad) With best wishes Lluís ----- Original Message ----- From: ED To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 6:14 PM Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas --- In [email protected], Lluís Mendieta <lme...@...> wrote: > > Hi, Ed > Anyway, if hungarians and finnish speak same branch of language, and they are >not related genetically > > a) something is missing in study > b) language has nothing to do with population origin > With best wishes, > Lluis Hi Lluis, a) There is almost always something missing from any hypothesis concerning language origins. b) Language has much to do with population origins, but there are other factors too, like conquests, migrations, bottlenecks, etc., etc. > With best wishes > > --ED Note (1): Hungarian language Closeup view of a Hungarian keyboard Alphabet õ û cs · dz · dzs · gy ly · ny · sz · ty · zs Grammar Noun phrases · Verbs T-V distinction History Sound correspondences with other Uralic languages Other features Phonetics and phonology Vowel harmony Orthography (Old Hungarian script)Hungarian names Tongue-twisters Hungarian and English Hungarian pronunciation of English English words from Hungarian Regulatory body v • d • e Hungarian (magyar nyelv) is a Uralic language in the Ugric language group, distantly related to Finnish, Estonian and a number of other minority languages spoken in the Baltic states and northern European Russia eastward into central Siberia. Finno-Ugric languages are not related to the Indo-European languages that dominate Europe but have acquired loan words from them. Note (2) Finnish is a member of the Baltic-Finnic subgroup of the Finno-Ugric group of languages which in turn is a member of the Uralic family of languages. The Baltic-Finnic subgroup also includes Estonian and other minority languages spoken around the Baltic Sea. Finnish demonstrates an affiliation with the Uralic languages in several respects including: Shared morphology: ... Shared basic vocabulary displaying regular sound correspondences with the other Uralic languages. Several theories exist as to the geographic origin of Finnish and the other Uralic languages, but the most widely held view is that they originated as a Proto-Uralic language somewhere in the boreal forest belt around the Ural Mountains region and/or the bend of the middle Volga. The strong case for Proto-Uralic is supported by common vocabulary with regularities in sound correspondences, as well as by the fact that the Uralic languages have many similarities in structure and grammar. The Finns are more genetically similar to their Indo-European speaking neighbors than to the speakers of the geographically close Finno-Ugric language, Sami. It has been argued that a native Finnic-speaking population therefore absorbed northward migrating Indo-European speakers who adopted the Finnic language, giving rise to the modern Finns." Note (3) The relationship between Fuinnish and Hungarian languagges http://www.histdoc.net/sounds/hungary.html
