"create discord" is certainly his effect. I think he has read a lot about zen, 
however, despite his unawareness of the story of the fox and Judeo-Christian 
morality, I mean karma. 

I like to err on the side of being helpful, but perhaps It would have been more 
useful to email him directly. No one likes to be told in front of others that 
the way they are communicating is imperfect!  

Thanks,
Chris Austin-Lane
Sent from a cell phone

On Nov 17, 2010, at 7:47, Maria Lopez <flordel...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> Thank you Chris for trying to help.  However, I do think that ED has been 
> purposely provoking to everyone he could get away with in the forum.  I do 
> not believe he has a genuine interest in zen or any of us,  at the very least 
> at present.  My impresion about him at present is that his aim is to create 
> discord and be destructive.
> Mayka 
>  
>  
> --- On Wed, 17/11/10, ChrisAustinLane <ch...@austin-lane.net> wrote:
> 
> From: ChrisAustinLane <ch...@austin-lane.net>
> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
> To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" <Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, 17 November, 2010, 15:18
> 
> ED:  
> 
> Your posts do have a tendency to come off as being sly and a bit mean, 
> despite your claim to have transcended karma, I mean Judeo-Christian notions 
> of morality. 
> 
> You will recall that Mayka's posts also rub some people the wrong way, a 
> phenomenon that has been thoroughly dissected here and attributed to some 
> interesting linguistic goings on and the off bit of whoop ass. 
> 
> Perhaps you will share what you see as the causes for people to mis-read your 
> intent in your posts.  Perhaps you won't trust this forum that much. 
> 
> If you say that the causes are all external to you, I have to comment that 
> there is not a dividing line between ED and Mayka. 
> 
> For the record, I found your use of the word "restrained" to described Bill's 
> right speech to make me think you were being sly, and your reply to Mayka to 
> definitely communicate negative emotional content. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris Austin-Lane, who definitely is more likely to post here when upset than 
> when not upset 
> Sent from a cell phone
> 
> On Nov 17, 2010, at 6:25, "ED" <seacrofter...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Mayka:
>> Is it mama patting Billy on the head for being a good boy?
>> Or is it a product of the fecal finger-pointing Judeo-Christian tradition?
>> Or is it the historical Spanish inquisitorial spirit rearing its ugly head?
>> Or is it something else?
>> --ED
>>  
>> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez <flordel...@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Bill:
>> >  
>> > You would have been in your right not to give a reply to malicious 
>> > posting.  
>> >  
>> > Mayka
>> 
>>  
>> > Ed and Kristy,
>> > 
>> > I didn't mean to be overly restrained. I can only give you my impressions 
>> > of them before they became Dharma successors and were just two of a group 
>> > of monks and students at the center - albeit 2 of the most senior and 
>> > seemingly advanced students. I will say that I was always more comfortable 
>> > with Bernie then Gempo. Gempo just seemed a little less approachable, but 
>> > I've always just wrote that off as just a personality mismatch.
>> > 
>> > ...Bill!
>> 
>>  
>> > Ed,
>> > 
>> > Well then, it seems we all are "underwhelmed" by Gempo...k
>> 
>>  
>> > Kristy,
>> > 
>> > My (slight) interest in Gempo was aroused by your mention of him.
>> > 
>> > Bill has been restrained in his speech about his dharma brothers.
>> > 
>> > --ED
>>  
> 
> 
> 

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