ED, I have yet to see a party who effects tit for tat for massive collateral damage. On the other hand, you are right in saying some 'illusory' action can result in very real pain and suffering. I suggest a test for illusion. Get a needle and stab it into your thigh. If you think it is just an illusion, congratulations, you are in a Buddha world. Otherwise, welcome to the club. Anthony
--- On Sun, 21/11/10, ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com> wrote: From: ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com> Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 21 November, 2010, 10:19 PM Anthony, Forget illusory notions like Karma and the Abrahamic God. In this illusory existence, 'cause and effect' or 'action/reaction' can lead to very real and painful conequences. Whether suicide terrorism or massive collateral damage and occupation terrorism, there will always be a reciprocating 'tit for tat' - to the extent that a party has the power to effect such. This is the normal, natural and ubiquitous ordinary nature of humans. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu <wu...@...> wrote: > > ED, > > Karma applies with the same force to those who commit atrocities and those > who revenge themselves. Suicide bombing can only prolong the working of > karma. > Anthony
