ED, My answers to your question below is 'yes' and 'yes'.
(Although I myself do not really like the term 'mindfullness'. I would prefer 'no mind'.) ...Bill! --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote: > > > > > Mike, here's my take: > > Mindfulness in the present moment is the simultaneous existence of two > states: > > (1) A clear and bright awareness of experiences in the present moment > > (2) A non-grasping and non-pushing-away of these experiences, without a > sense of I/me/mine > > Mindfulness over a time interval is mindfulness in every instant of that > time interval. > > Being mindful over long time intervals eventually merges into a state of > continuous 'pure awareness'. > > ---- > > Two questions: > > Is 'shikantaza' none other than mindfulness on the zafu? > > Is the state of 'pure awareness' identical with the state of satori? > > --ED > > > > --- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@> wrote: > > > > Mayka, > > > > Minfulness is a technique. You say it yourself when you write that it > "helps us" > > to be in the present moment. But this is a fragile state to be in. You > can calm > > the mind for a while thru mindfulness, but how long before it reverts > back to > > its usual state of restlessness (a toothache, a fight with your > boyfriend, a > > perceived insult in a post etc.)? A becalmed mind is not a peaceful > mind. A > > truly peaceful mind cannot be disturbed. The nature of the Self is > pure > > awareness - it can't be something that comes and goes (mindfulness). > > > > Mike > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
