JM, Exactly. There is only one reality, and that includes ALL of its manifestations in the various interpretations of various humans. But there is only one universal life force (what I call ontological energy and some call Tao or Buddha Nature), and there is only one true wisdom and that is its realization...
It's a pleasure to have a teacher with true understanding back on the group! Edgar On May 19, 2013, at 9:59 AM, 覺妙精明 （JMJM） wrote: > Hi Bill, > > You always insisted that there are differences in zen, Zen, Chan. I can > accept all of that, because all of that is inclusive in Chan. They are all > description of the same one fundamental thing, the universal life force and > wisdom and all of its manifestations. > > JM > > > On 5/19/2013 6:52 AM, Bill! wrote: >> >> JMJM and Edgar, >> >> I don't know about Chan, but zen is a human practice that assists in >> balancing the interplay between Human Nature and Buddha Nature. I went on to >> describe it in more detail in a recent post. >> >> It is not everything. It is a practice. There are human activities that are >> not part of that practice. >> >> ...Bill! >> >> --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: >> > >> > JMJM, >> > >> > That's my understanding too. That's how I use the word though I usually >> > refer to it as Zen. >> > >> > It's not something confined to any sect, temple or teacher though it may >> > be recognized and taught therein. >> > >> > Chan or Zen is just a name for the fundamental reality of the world. But >> > the name is not the reality, it just references the reality... >> > >> > Edgar >> > >> > >> > >> > On May 19, 2013, at 9:08 AM, 覺妙精明 （JMJM） wrote: >> > >> > > Hi Mike, >> > > >> > > Chan is the absolute and most fundamental dharma. Chan is the essence of >> > > all and everything. >> > > Chan can be expressed with any kind of word or no word at all. >> > > >> > > JM >> > > >> > > On 5/19/2013 1:00 AM, uerusuboyo@... wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Would it be fair to say that Cha'n still retains more of its original >> > >> Indian Mahayana flavour than Japanese Zen? At least in it's outward >> > >> expression, if not in its stories. I can almost smell the incense from >> > >> here! ( meant respectfully). >> > >> >> > >> With cheeks together, on a chair, >> > >> >> > >> Mike >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad >> > >> >> > >> From: Joe <desert_woodworker@...>; >> > >> To: <[email protected]>; >> > >> Subject: [Zen] Re: What is Enlightenment? >> > >> Sent: Sun, May 19, 2013 5:26:17 AM >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> JMJM, >> > >> >> > >> Well done. Well expressed. Be well. Please take good care. >> > >> >> > >> Hands together, and with bow, >> > >> >> > >> --Joe >> > >> >> > >> > <chan.jmjm@> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > Everything we truly seek belongs to heart, i.e. peace, happiness, >> > >> > etc. >> > >> > >> > >> > Enhance the sensitivity of our heart. Accept all as is. Surpass the >> > >> > realm of desire, form and formlessness. Sync with the universal >> > >> > wisdom through our heart is the key to enlightenment. >> > >> > >> > >> > with palms together, >> > >> > jm >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >
