I guess none of you read mine very well.  He said our times were like those
of Noah.  No one was left who was righteous other than Noah and some of his
family.

That is what I was referring to, quite clearly I think.

Those of you who love to tear things down will find what you desire to find.
I think I will take a different road.  It is far easier to destroy and tar
down, than it is to search for a way to build up what little good there
might be.

Yes, the time will come when things will fall apart.  It almost seems like
some here want to hasten that time.

So, go back and read John's post and my response, and try again.

Jon

Marc A. Schindler wrote:

Jon Spencer wrote:

> It is nice to know that John thinks that there are no moral people
anywhere
> in the world (does that include you, John?)  I personally take exception
to
> this, because here our or little part of the vineyard, there are hundreds
of
> righteous men and women doing there best.
>

I don't think John's ever said this. IIn the post you quote, he clearly said
there are no moral *nations*, and I would strongly agree. Has any part of
Zion
lived up to the covenant in Ether? I can't think of one, and that includes
Canada. And we're supposed to be setting an example for the rest of the
world.

>
> We are NOT like the days of (the prophet) Noah.  Of course, we could
simply
> fold up our tents and stay home, as you apparently would have us do.  We
can
> all just slip down to Provo and live an isolated life, ignoring the pleas
> from our brothers and sisters around the world.

Who has pleaded for the US to make a "regime change" in Iraq, which is
Bush's
declared aim?

> We can all just let our
> respective governments fall into total chaos and lift nary a hand to keep
> things afloat so that our missionaries (who should just keep there noses
out
> of others business and stay home) can reach all peoples and nations and
> tongues.  We could let evil run rampant and do nothing.  THEN, perhaps, we
> would be "in a time that is like the days of Noah."
>
> We certainly do not have a King Benjamin, but we are a long way from King
> Noah (currently anyway, unless we sit by and do nothing).
>
> Is that it?  Or do I have it wrong?
>

Yes, you have it all wrong.

>
> Jon
>
> John W. Redelfs wrote:
> > It is a telestial world in a time that is like the days of Noah.  There
> are no honorable nations upon the earth.  --JWR
>
>
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Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland

"The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and
falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark."
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