After careful consideration, Scott McGee wrote:
>Let me ask you a questions. I accept that our government is sufficiently
>controlled by gadiantons that I have no real voice it. I see no way to
>elect a truly worthy candidate now.

I don't either.  The time for that is past.

>My question, then, is what is the answer? As far as I can see, there is
>no way to run the gadiantons out of control short of causing a majority
>of the people to repent and seek for rightiousnes. That is what the
>people of the Book of Mormon had to do.

What is the answer?  I don't think there is a solution except to let the 
disease run its course.  We could have kept it from starting.  Perhaps we 
could have killed it while it was young and tender.  But now that it has 
gained strength, this evil is unassailable through the electoral 
process.  Does this mean that we should despair.  No, there are other 
things we can do.  Men all over the world have lived under totalitarianism 
throughout history, and we can do it too.  But I think that the things we 
can do are local and in our families.

Can we have an effect on our local city council or on the school board?  Of 
course we can.  And when we work within our families to educate a new 
generation, we are doing much to keep the spark of freedom alive until 
conditions are different.  This spark is passed down in families.

You see, we really don't have to do anything.  The Lord has explained that 
these Gadianton murderers are going to fight among themselves until their 
house of cards is destroyed.  Consider these words from the Book of Mormon:

13  And the blood of that great and abominable church, which is the whore 
of all the earth, shall turn upon their own heads; for they shall war among 
themselves, and the sword of their own hands shall fall upon their own 
heads, and they shall be drunken with their own blood.

14  And every nation which shall war against thee, O house of Israel, shall 
be turned one against another, and they shall fall into the pit which they 
digged to ensnare the people of the Lord.  And all that fight against Zion 
shall be destroyed, and that great whore, who hath perverted the right ways 
of the Lord, yea, that great and abominable church, shall tumble to the 
dust and great shall be the fall of it.

(Book of Mormon | 1 Nephi 22:13 - 14)


16  For the time soon cometh that the fulness of the wrath of God shall be 
poured out upon all the children of men; for he will not suffer that the 
wicked shall destroy the righteous.

17  Wherefore, he will preserve the righteous by his power, even if it so 
be that the fulness of his wrath must come, and the righteous be preserved, 
even unto the destruction of their enemies by fire.  Wherefore, the 
righteous need not fear; for thus saith the prophet, they shall be saved, 
even if it so be as by fire.

(Book of Mormon | 1 Nephi 22:16 - 17)

So you see, here in the last days we don't have to overthrow the Gadianton 
Robbers.  They are going to do it themselves.  Our job is to protect our 
families and communities as be we can.  And that can be accomplished most 
effectively if we understand who these Gadianton's are and what their evil 
plans for us are.

How many Church members actually have a years supply of food?  Half?  A 
third?  Even less?  All be if you were to do a study you would learn that 
the so-called conspiracy theorists are a lot more likely to have a years 
supply of food that the average active member.  They vote differently too, 
so they will not have nearly as much to answer for when they stand before 
the Judge.

>I suspect that even if we could do that, we would still have to "wage
>war" with these gadiantons just as the Book of Mormon peoples had to,
>once they are driven from control of the government, as they will
>certainly try to regain control by whatever means at their disposal.

I don't think it is going to be with us the same as it was with the ancient 
Nephites.  We do not have to root the cancer out by overthrowing our 
government.  It is too late for that.  Besides, they are going to do it for 
us by fighting among themselves.  In the meantime, there is much that each 
of us can do by way of protecting our families and our local communities 
against their evil influence.  This great secret combination is powerful, 
but it is not omnipotent.  And the Lord is.  They can't be everywhere at 
once, but the Lord's influence can.  If you or I were to work to clean up 
the corruption in the local city government, and work within the school 
board to provide a better education for our children, the Gadianton Robbers 
aren't going to be able to stop us.  They will be far too busy fighting an 
unjust war in Iraq or somewhere else.

>So, once again, what do you guys see as the answer? I will accept both 
>short and long term type answers so give either or both if you prefer.

The answer as I see it is to repent, awake, and prepare.  Saints all over 
the world are ruled by various Gadianton Robber bands.  Totalitarianism is 
the rule, not the exception.  And if we in the USA fall under the evil fist 
of totalitarianism, we are just joining them in their misery.  But there is 
much we can do for our families and our local communities.  We will see 
what needs to be done much more clearly if we know what is going on.

John W. Redelfs                        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"There is no conspiracy theory in the Book of  Mormon
  --it is a conspiracy fact. (Ezra Taft Benson, April 1972)
All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR

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