On Wed, 2006-20-12 at 16:47 +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote: > Rocky Burt wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-20-12 at 12:52 +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote: > >> http://genshi.edgewall.org > >> > >> Inspired by Kid (in turn among others inspired by ZPT), the main > >> template language of TurboGears, written by the people who also created > >> Trac, and it seems to be getting traction. TurboGears among others is > >> going to adopt it, but also things like the creator of SQLAlchemy (and > >> Myghthy) spending time optimizing it, etc. It's close enough to ZPT to > >> be palatable to me, and has some nice features for reuse. > >> > >> If we're going to get out of the server business we could also consider > >> getting out of the template language business. :) > > > > To be quite frank, the templating language doesn't really mean a whole > > lot to me. I could use just about anything. > > Even if it's slow, doesn't offer reuse functionality and is supported by > just me, say? :)
Haha. Sure... as long as at least Martijn Faassen supports it I'm fine with it *grin* > It matters to me especially when we're talking about reuse. Template > languages differ significantly in their approach. I also prefer to pick > something that has a certain momentum and a certain performance. A strong +1 > As a side topic, I'm also slowly coming to the conclusion that tales > path expressions are a waste of time and effort. We spent a lot of time > making sure that we can express something as a path expression, and a > Python expression would be just as easy to read and explain. We're not > stopping people from writing more complicated python expressions anyway, > and there are real cases where they're needed. A very different > templating mechanism where there is no Python at all and data is always > pregenerated before rendering is still attractive for other reasons, but > in the ZPT case I've become less and less convinced it's worth the hassle. As days go by I care less and less about this. I hate writing HTML which obviously means I hate writing any page template that generates HTML :) And I find these days there is generally no lesser of any evils in this regard. > Hm, with 'getting out of the web server business' I at least always > meant that we should still offer a default web server. We should also > offer a default templating language. We should just not have to maintain > that web server or templating language ourselves anymore. "Getting out > of the X business" doesn't mean we don't evaluate and choose X. It just > means we stop maintaining and developing X all by ourselves. +10 Regards, Rocky -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com News About The Server (blog) -- http://www.serverzen.net
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