Re: [Chevelle-List] NEW GRILLE
OPG has had a bad habit ( bad for use but good for them) of Market testing a item. the senero go'e like this. Lets see. lots of hits on a 69 widget wings. Let's see if infact were abll to reproduce them . OK we got a base line production cost lets see if we get a market response. WOW 800#'s ringing off the wall, dealers are calling inregards to the wedget wings availibility. Good , sound no risk business aproach,. just get's everybody jumping with antisapation.of it's arivial. - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 11:45 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] NEW GRILLE Yeah, this was a strange deal. They introduced it as a new product but then there weren't any available. It sounds to me like they were pretty sure of themselves, but when the parts actually arrived, there was a fit problem or something. The same thing happened with the new 67 Chevelle grill extensions that were supposed to be a new item this year. They were announced but never seemed to be available. I was told that there was a fit problem. -Original Message- One of our manufacturers claims to have this in the works. I and they still don't have an ETA. Could be months, a year, two years, who knows? I'll post a message when they are available. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Advice needed
21K , I am not a 70type guy but IMHO an undocumented car with NOM SB! and other sortcoming you made mention of . I would walk . just my .02 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Advice needed In a message dated 6/26/02 9:04:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know if I'd pass on it, I'd just get more info and deal down to match the equipment. How much are they asking? 21K - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] part number
Bob, and anyone else who has speedo problems because you changed the rear gear, bigger tires or whatever. This site should help you out. Rich http://www.novaresource.org/speedo.htm - Original Message - From: Robert Belz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] part number Rich, Thanks for your reply. The reason I'm asking is because I ordered a speedometer ratio reducer from my local Chevy dealer and they found it in a book that listed it for a 1971 400 c.i. or 454 c.i. Chevelle with a 3.42 rear gear. As we know the only rear gear ratio that was supposed to be available was a 3.31 for the SS454 that year. This ratio adapter has a part # of 3950352 and the dealer didn't have much other info on it so I took a chance and ordered it. In their parts catalog a table showed this was to be used with driven gear #1359272 (38 tooth) and #8623313 drive gear but they didn't show how many teeth or the color code for the drive gear. I found the driven gear colors and part numbers numerous places on the net but nobody provides this info. for the drive gear. I don't know what drive gear is in my trans. I guess I'll have to count teeth. The short version is this adapter is stamped 0.8241 U.D. (don't know why they wouldn't tell that ratio in the parts book),made by C.B.I. and it made my speedometer dead nuts on. The numbers on my trans. are 529 and below that CA-69-88215. I'm sure it is not the original, probably a 69 from the tag number. Don't know what the stock rear gear or speedo gears should be for this either. Sounds like you know more than the average guy about this part number game. If you can dig up more info. on part number decoding and that gear that would be great. Sorry for the long post. Thanks again. Bob Belz 71 SS454 - Original Message - From: Richard Milkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 5:21 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] part number Bob, I may be able to find out for you.The 86 is Willow Run plant, the 23 is the 400 turbo. So all you really need to know is what the 313 application is. Can anyone tell me what part number 8623313 is in terms of number of teeth and color code. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] RE: part number-Bob Belz
Sounds like you know more than the average guy about this part number game. Bob, not really. I just happen to work for GM Powertrain and have some old manuals and resources at work. I forgot to answer your question on the trans ID. CA = 350 or 396 (no difference in the trans. Sometimes the 396 would get a better clutch pack, but not this time.) 69 = 1969 88215 = serial # of the trans That plate that you got the info from is called a name plate. If the dealer had to send that trans back to the factory or do warranty work on it, 88215 tells the factory when it was built, what shift and what line it came off of. Today we still use the name plate but we also attach a bar code that can be scanned and give us additional info. Hope this helps ya. Sorry it took so long to answer you. I'm putting a pond in my yard and not getting on the tube much. If I can help you more let me know. Rich
Re: [Chevelle-List] 70 Resto
I picked up a matching numbers 69 Chevelle about 4 years ago and had just begun to restore it June of 2001. This one will be completed in just over a year's time. Then next up is a 69 Dodge Charger that I picked up last September Tom Yea that is after you guys finally finish up your moms car! :o) JJ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End shimming ????
Tom I opened it up yesterday and checked it over. Goig through it I was riding on the heal so I checked the back lash . Good back lash is 3 to8 thou. and I was at 15. I checked my end spacers on carrier and they were on the wrong sides. I switched them and it went to 8 to 9 but it still howls mainly when you are costing(not as load). Is there suppose to be smallshims on each side of the carrier mainshims? I am running 3.70 gears in a 10 bolt It is the 4 spring style. DaveIngersoll,OntarioMy web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End shimming DaveHow bad is the howl in the rear and what gears are you running. I have 4.10's in my 70 that are in dire need of replacing because the guy that set it up slapped it together for a drag car. The gears howl so bad that I cannot hear myself think until the car reaches 70 mph and then it goes away. It is not there under acceleration, only at constant speeds. If they are howling that bad, chances are the gears are shot and reshimming them could make it worse as it did mine. I tried repeatedly to reshim it and I even got it to where it should be and it made it much worse. I went and got a new set of 3.73 gears, now it is just a matter of me putting them in.Tom70 Chevelle SS
Re: [Chevelle-List] Trunk Floor Replacement
how did you like the ausley's trunk floor, is it very good quality? - Original Message - From: Bill Vander Werf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Trunk Floor Replacement I replaced the floor in my 71 also with a 3 piece floor from Ausley's. Although it fit pretty good and it sounds like Mark's was in worse shape than mine was, I have to agree with every point Mark wrote. One thing I did was painstakingly cut the old floor away from the existing floor and gas tank braces because they were still in good shape and so It would be easier to fit the new floor to them. Even though that simplified the project to a certain extent, the trunk floor project as a whole helped remind me why I don't do body work for a living anymore. Bill Vander Werf Mark Weber wrote: I replaced the floor in my 71. It was a p.i.t.a. But since I think I have more time than brains I went about this method. Here is a link.http://webpages.charter.net/perfmark/cars/chevelle/before/april_2000_work.htmHow I did it:1. Remove old.2. Buy new 3 piece kit paying attention to price.3. Fully welded all butt/overlap seams. Spot welded every 2 inches all points where the floor layed over a supporting brace.4. Fabricate extra pieces to cover holes on each side next to the wheel well housing, from trunk floor up and over to the seat back.5. Lots of grinding on imperfect welds. I think my wire feed welder is a POS.6. Some bondo and sanding to make it look smooth.7. Seam sealer.8. Trunk paint.9. Probably spent 80 hours on it. I could not make a living fixing trunk floors.How I would do it again:1. Remove old.2. Buy new kit that extends further up the back wall and further up and over the rear axle hump. Don't worry if it costs $100 more it will be a better and easier fit, it will look better, and even if your time is only worth $5 an hour it will still pay for itself. (When you buy quality - what?)3. Tack all butt/overlap seams and do not worry about 100% of the joint being welded. Spot welded every 2 inches all spots where the floor layed over a supporting brace.4. Grinding really bad welds but don't worry about the rest. If you buy a welder buy a good one. Borrow a good one from a buddy and try it first. (When you buy quality you only cry once.)5. Dont bondo. Go around the new panel seams with seam sealer and leave it.6. Trunk paint.7. I estimate this would only take 40 hours to do a trunk. and would look very good to 95% of the population. It is not unusual to see seam sealer on joints on cars and I think it would slip by most people. Of course this would not look as perfect and you would still know etc... I would do it this way if I were just making a neat car really nice.The biggest problem you might have is the fact that all the original metal you weld may be 1/2 rusted away. You take nice new weldable thicker trunk panels and try to weld them to this thin worn out stuff and you might burn through every inch. Maybe my car was to rusty for this to be easy.When it is done it is nice to have a trunk floor that stuff does not fall through :)Good luck,Mark71 SS
Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars
i agree with tim - chances are that the numbers under the hood has been changed. also, im one of the younger ones too at 15 years old. i love muscle cars too. good luck with your '64! i also feel like im more mature than most kids my age, lol. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars Kyle,Welcome to the list. Sounds like you have a great project car, but its alot of work! Im one of the younger ones on here, at 16. There is about 3 or 4 teenagers on the list. All the guys on here are very knowledge-able and can answer anything. What are the numbers on the door jamb, and under the hood? Chances are the one under the hood has been switched. The one on mine has too, for what reason, I dont know. Welcome.-Tim1966 Chevelle
Re: [Chevelle-List] Advice needed
The guy sounds like a hammer mechanic to me. Run from this one, don't walk...RUN. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/26/02 11:13:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sounds like to me they are willing to cut corners and misrepresent certain items. If this is the case, who knows what else is wrong with the car that they're just not gonna mention unless you notice it. Just my $0.02 Yeah, I didn't get the feeling that he was telling me everything. Especially when I popped the hood and found a big mess. Rust running down the master cylinder. Mark - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Advice needed
I agree with Dale. 396guy wrote: If he found the build sheet and you could verify it with the VIN, and from the description, turned the 21K around to 12Kmaybe. Better stuff out there I think even if you had to go to AZ or NM to find one. Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 6:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Advice needed In a message dated 6/26/02 1:54:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For an undocumented, used to be a 454, now a 350, one of a kind hidden cowl induction hooded car.ya, I'd pass also. Now if he were to come up with a build sheet for an LS5, would it be...never mind, now that I think of it, I want a finished or (close to finished) car! Thanks to all for your help, it's really appreciated! Mark Los Angeles - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Advice needed
I think the guy is trying to make a quick buck at someone else's expense. Awful lot of guys that way, they fix it good enough to fool some unsuspecting person and make some quick cash. I'd pass too. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PASS that car isn't worth 10 k Larry (z)
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End shimming ????
Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End shimming Dave, From what I remember when I replaced a ring and pinion a couple of years ago, once you do your initial setup for backlash and what-not, you then follow a run-in procedure to set the gears. What happens is that the gears heat up and set. So it seems that if it was setup different than what was engraved on the ring and pinion at first, then there may not be any way to shim them again to be quiet. If Im wrong, Im sure someone will chime in :-) By the way Ive been lurking on this list for about a month and have been very impressed with the volume and quality of information passing by everyday. Shawn 69 SS396 /325 on 6/27/02 9:15 AM, Dave Benjamin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom I opened it up yesterday and checked it over. Goig through it I was riding on the heal so I checked the back lash . Good back lash is 3 to 8 thou. and I was at 15. I checked my end spacers on carrier and they were on the wrong sides. I switched them and it went to 8 to 9 but it still howls mainly when you are costing (not as load). Is there suppose to be small shims on each side of the carrier main shims? I am running 3.70 gears in a 10 bolt It is the 4 spring style. Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End shimming Dave How bad is the howl in the rear and what gears are you running. I have 4.10's in my 70 that are in dire need of replacing because the guy that set it up slapped it together for a drag car. The gears howl so bad that I cannot hear myself think until the car reaches 70 mph and then it goes away. It is not there under acceleration, only at constant speeds. If they are howling that bad, chances are the gears are shot and reshimming them could make it worse as it did mine. I tried repeatedly to reshim it and I even got it to where it should be and it made it much worse. I went and got a new set of 3.73 gears, now it is just a matter of me putting them in. Tom 70 Chevelle SS http://hometown.aol.com/micrlaser
Re: [Chevelle-List] Advice needed
Sounds like the guy wants to take you for a ride!!! and it isn't in a 70 Chevelle lol KenD 72 HeavyChevyChevelle
Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars
Welcome to the list Kyle, you've come to the right place. We all love muscle cars too. I'm not totally positive, but I don't think they had 305's until well after 64. It probably was a six, but not a 305. Am I wrong guys? Sorry Kyle, I'm 46 now and I'm still learning. (especially from these guys) Paul 84 El Camino SS eagle1978 wrote: hi I am a 12 year old who loves muscle cars. I really hate stupid little imports and I really don't like to blow my ears out with music so I listen to old rock and roll and I am very mechanically inclined.I actually like to blow my ears out with the sound of open headers instead. that way I have an excuse.lol.I think maybe I am a 40 year old stuck in a 12 year olds body.I kinda have realized that I am a very rare breed if you know what I mean.we have just bought a 64 300 which I hear is very rare. It has a bored 305 with headers.it currently needs a new a new carb.the float adj. is stripped and it needs to be rebuilt.we have stripped the int. where found that the floor boards are rotted and so is the trunk. all the quarters need to be replaced and so do the door skins. we also found that alot of the stuff is micky moused(it looks like some one my age did it).we are planning to do a g machine type thing with it. this will defiantly show the local Honda boys whose boss!we are going to paint it the original color 912 ice blue.also we have a problem with the vin. the one that is in the drivers side door jam says it was an original 6 cyl but the tag in the engine compartment says it is an 8 cyl.can someone help us with this please? and if anyone has any info on my model car can they please give me some infothanks,Kyle m.
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End shimming ????
Hi All, while were on the subject of rearend shimming, last summer i had a friend of mine and my self take the rearend out of the car and replaced the 273 gears to the origonal 3.36 ones, i purchased a new posi and gears, it is by the way a 8.2, everything went well slapped it back together and installed it now i hear a noise like the tire is rubbing against the fender when turning right hand corners, and sometimes at slow speeds any clue on what happend or what we didnt do also the gears are richmond i called the sales person who sold them to me and he told me that richmond gears to tend to hum a bit, this is not a hum for sure. Thanks for any help. KenD 72 HeavyChevyChevelle
Re: [Chevelle-List] Advice needed
I know Jay has a lot of cars, but has anyone seen all of them? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/26/02 6:56:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought Southern California was home to ALL the good cars. The problem is they are sitting in Jay Leno's garage/warehouse. Mark - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re:Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End shimming ????
Did you add GM positraction Additive? Not sure if its necessary with non GM posi units, but it does quiet down strange noises in GM units. When I had the rear redone, rebuilder did use it. I don't think that it could hurt. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi All, while were on the subject of rearend shimming, last summer i had a friend of mine and my self take the rearend out of the car and replaced the 273 gears to the origonal 3.36 ones, i purchased a new posi and gears, it is by the way a 8.2, everything went well slapped it back together and installed it now i hear a noise like the tire is rubbing against the fender when turning right hand corners, and sometimes at slow speeds any clue on what happend or what we didnt do also the gears are richmond i called the sales person who sold them to me and he told me that richmond gears to tend to hum a bit, this is not a hum for sure. Thanks for any help. KenD 72 HeavyChevyChevelle rick schaefer 72 El camino http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html ACES #00140 Team Chevelle #00038 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End shimming ????
Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End shimming Ken, The rubbing sound is most likely from the posi unit. Did you use the limited slip additive when you put the diff oil in? If you did put in the additive you may also have some chattering of the clutches as they get broken in. When I put in my last posi ( In my Z71) I was told to run it slowly in a figure 8 in an empty parking lot to get the clutches broken in. Its been a while and they still make some noise at low speeds in a gradual turn. Depending on the posi, you may never completely get rid of the chatter. As for the hum, unless you have done several rear ends and have quality dial indicators, its going to be kind of tough to get all the noise out of the high end aftermarket gears (Richmond, etc) Thats what I was told anyway. Shawn 69 SS396 /325 on 6/27/02 10:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, while were on the subject of rearend shimming, last summer i had a friend of mine and my self take the rearend out of the car and replaced the 273 gears to the origonal 3.36 ones, i purchased a new posi and gears, it is by the way a 8.2, everything went well slapped it back together and installed it now i hear a noise like the tire is rubbing against the fender when turning right hand corners, and sometimes at slow speeds any clue on what happend or what we didnt do also the gears are richmond i called the sales person who sold them to me and he told me that richmond gears to tend to hum a bit, this is not a hum for sure. Thanks for any help. KenD 72 HeavyChevyChevelle
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End shimming ????
Thanks. yes i used the ford stuff for posi units. KenD 72 Heavy Chevy
Re: [Chevelle-List] Advice needed
Mark: I don't think so as just a few months ago there was a nice 71 SS 454 car here for 9500. It was far from mint but was all there and numbers correct. as far as I'm concerned he may as well sell it with no motor and it would be worth just about the same. He is pricing it right up there with a numbers matching car. I'm sure most in here would agree at 21 k it is way overpriced. Larry (z)
Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars
my other 70 has a 305 out of an 84 Camaro in it, but thats only because someone put it in there. So yes it probably has a little old 305 in it since they are a dime a dozen. Does anyone rember those 305 V-6 engines, we had one in a 66? suburban and the carb always caught on fire. That thing was fun to beat on :-) Tom A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/micrlaser;70 Chevelle SS/A - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] thanks for the info
Tim thanks for the info,it was very useful. Kyle m
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End shimming ????
Thanks shawn, i did use the ford posi additive was told it was good stuff , well i did read some where in the installation manual to do just that of the figure 8 but i dont think i did i dont really drive the car that much lots of rain lately here in mass, you think its to late for the figure 8 issue and will i damage the posi unit if leave it the way it is any reccomendations? thanks again shawn and others KenD 72 HeavyChevyChevelle
Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars
Paul thanks for sending me the letter, actually I know the engine was aftermarket. I was scrolling through thefor salepages and I found an ad for my car. apparently it is a 350 with 305 heads.so that's a plus!! thanks again for the info Kyle m - Original Message - From: Paul O'Brien To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars Welcome to the list Kyle, you've come to the right place. We all love muscle cars too. I'm not totally positive, but I don't think they had 305's until well after 64. It probably was a six, but not a 305. Am I wrong guys? Sorry Kyle, I'm 46 now and I'm still learning. (especially from these guys) Paul 84 El Camino SS eagle1978 wrote: hi I am a 12 year old who loves muscle cars. I really hate stupid little imports and I really don't like to blow my ears out with music so I listen to old rock and roll and I am very mechanically inclined.I actually like to blow my ears out with the sound of open headers instead. that way I have an excuse.lol.I think maybe I am a 40 year old stuck in a 12 year olds body.I kinda have realized that I am a very rare breed if you know what I mean.we have just bought a 64 300 which I hear is very rare. It has a bored 305 with headers.it currently needs a new a new carb.the float adj. is stripped and it needs to be rebuilt.we have stripped the int. where found that the floor boards are rotted and so is the trunk. all the quarters need to be replaced and so do the door skins. we also found that alot of the stuff is micky moused(it looks like some one my age did it).we are planning to do a g machine type thing with it. this will defiantly show the local Honda boys whose boss!we are going to paint it the original color 912 ice blue.also we have a problem with the vin. the one that is in the drivers side door jam says it was an original 6 cyl but the tag in the engine compartment says it is an 8 cyl.can someone help us with this please? and if anyone has any info on my model car can they please give me some infothanks,Kyle m.
Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars
thanks Chad, ya I think so too. hopefully the good luck will work! Kyle m - Original Message - From: Chad Playso To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars i agree with tim - chances are that the numbers under the hood has been changed. also, im one of the younger ones too at 15 years old. i love muscle cars too. good luck with your '64! i also feel like im more mature than most kids my age, lol. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars Kyle,Welcome to the list. Sounds like you have a great project car, but its alot of work! Im one of the younger ones on here, at 16. There is about 3 or 4 teenagers on the list. All the guys on here are very knowledge-able and can answer anything. What are the numbers on the door jamb, and under the hood? Chances are the one under the hood has been switched. The one on mine has too, for what reason, I dont know. Welcome.-Tim1966 Chevelle
Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars
thanks for the message, ya actually I think it is a 350 Kyle m - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars my other 70 has a 305 out of an 84 Camaro in it, but thats only because someone put it in there. So yes it probably has a little old 305 in it since they are a dime a dozen. Does anyone rember those 305 V-6 engines, we had one in a 66? suburban and the carb always caught on fire. That thing was fun to beat on :-) Tom A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/micrlaser;70 Chevelle SS/A - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] power steering bracket problem
Jason, Looks like everyone is busy, let's see if I can help you out. You have a 1969 307, with a SHORT water pump? You don't sound sure. Here is a simple test, if you can stick your finger between the back of the water pump and the front of the timing chain cover, it is the LONG water pump ('69 later), if NOT it's a SHORT water pump. As soon as you are sure which pump setup you have, we can go from there. Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) ACES #5102 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] U-Joints
Any special instructions or cautions when replacing U-Joints? I've never done it before and both the El Camino and Mercury need them. Paul - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars
Definately a plus. Sometimes I think a six would be better than a 305. eagle1978 wrote: Paulthanks for sending me the letter,actually I know the engine was aftermarket. I was scrolling through the for sale pages and I found an ad for my car. apparently it is a 350 with 305 heads.so that's a plus!! thanks again for the infoKyle m - Original Message - From: Paul O'Brien To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars Welcome to the list Kyle, you've come to the right place. We all love muscle cars too. I'm not totally positive, but I don't think they had 305's until well after 64. It probably was a six, but not a 305. Am I wrong guys? Sorry Kyle, I'm 46 now and I'm still learning. (especially from these guys) Paul 84 El Camino SS eagle1978 wrote: hi I am a 12 year old who loves muscle cars. I really hate stupid little imports and I really don't like to blow my ears out with music so I listen to old rock and roll and I am very mechanically inclined.I actually like to blow my ears out with the sound of open headers instead. that way I have an excuse.lol.I think maybe I am a 40 year old stuck in a 12 year olds body.I kinda have realized that I am a very rare breed if you know what I mean. we have just bought a 64 300 which I hear is very rare. It has a bored 305 with headers.it currently needs a new a new carb.the float adj. is stripped and it needs to be rebuilt.we have stripped the int. where found that the floor boards are rotted and so is the trunk. all the quarters need to be replaced and so do the door skins. we also found that alot of the stuff is micky moused(it looks like some one my age did it).we are planning to do a g machine type thing with it. this will defiantly show the local Honda boys whose boss!we are going to paint it the original color 912 ice blue.also we have a problem with the vin. the one that is in the drivers side door jam says it was an original 6 cyl but the tag in the engine compartment says it is an 8 cyl.can someone help us with this please? and if anyone has any info on my model car can they please give me some info thanks,Kyle m. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Tach Question
My factory tach in my 69SS does not work. Is there a way to test it to see if the tach itself is the problem or a loose or broken wire? Craig 69SS
Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars
kyle, i was wondering, do you want to drive yet? or are you just very interested in cars? if you do want to drive, its a bummer, cause its gonna be 4 more years...right? or does your dad let you drive or something? (in parking lot or whatever?) - Original Message - From: eagle1978 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars thanks Chad, ya I think so too. hopefully the good luck will work! Kyle m - Original Message - From: Chad Playso To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars i agree with tim - chances are that the numbers under the hood has been changed. also, im one of the younger ones too at 15 years old. i love muscle cars too. good luck with your '64! i also feel like im more mature than most kids my age, lol. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars Kyle,Welcome to the list. Sounds like you have a great project car, but its alot of work! Im one of the younger ones on here, at 16. There is about 3 or 4 teenagers on the list. All the guys on here are very knowledge-able and can answer anything. What are the numbers on the door jamb, and under the hood? Chances are the one under the hood has been switched. The one on mine has too, for what reason, I dont know. Welcome.-Tim1966 Chevelle
Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End shimming ????
Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End shimming Ken, I dont think you will do any damage by not breaking in the posi, it will just make a god awful racket longer than if you did. Mine settled down after about 3 months of daily use, so a weekend car may stay stiff for a bit longer. Also, dont be tempted to put in synthetic fluid to make it quieter, I put it in mine and while it did cut down on the noise, it also caused the posi to slip and totally negated the locking action. Apparently the synthetic stuff is just too slippery. Shawn on 6/27/02 11:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks shawn, i did use the ford posi additive was told it was good stuff , well i did read some where in the installation manual to do just that of the figure 8 but i dont think i did i dont really drive the car that much lots of rain lately here in mass, you think its to late for the figure 8 issue and will i damage the posi unit if leave it the way it is any reccomendations? thanks again shawn and others KenD 72 HeavyChevyChevelle
Re: Re:Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End shimming ????
I did add the additive to the gear oil. I picked up new carrier bearings taday and will see if that helps. Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ - Original Message - From: rick schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 10:23 AM Subject: Re:Re: [Chevelle-List] Rear End shimming Did you add GM positraction Additive? Not sure if its necessary with non GM posi units, but it does quiet down strange noises in GM units. When I had the rear redone, rebuilder did use it. I don't think that it could hurt. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi All, while were on the subject of rearend shimming, last summer i had a friend of mine and my self take the rearend out of the car and replaced the 273 gears to the origonal 3.36 ones, i purchased a new posi and gears, it is by the way a 8.2, everything went well slapped it back together and installed it now i hear a noise like the tire is rubbing against the fender when turning right hand corners, and sometimes at slow speeds any clue on what happend or what we didnt do also the gears are richmond i called the sales person who sold them to me and he told me that richmond gears to tend to hum a bit, this is not a hum for sure. Thanks for any help. KenD 72 HeavyChevyChevelle rick schaefer 72 El camino http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html ACES #00140 Team Chevelle #00038 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars
Chad he says once the car is running that I can drive it in and out of drive ways and stuff, but ya I want to drive!I once started a mopar and I drive go carts alot but that's all. Kyle m - Original Message - From: Chad Playso To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars kyle, i was wondering, do you want to drive yet? or are you just very interested in cars? if you do want to drive, its a bummer, cause its gonna be 4 more years...right? or does your dad let you drive or something? (in parking lot or whatever?) - Original Message - From: eagle1978 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars thanks Chad, ya I think so too. hopefully the good luck will work! Kyle m - Original Message - From: Chad Playso To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars i agree with tim - chances are that the numbers under the hood has been changed. also, im one of the younger ones too at 15 years old. i love muscle cars too. good luck with your '64! i also feel like im more mature than most kids my age, lol. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars Kyle,Welcome to the list. Sounds like you have a great project car, but its alot of work! Im one of the younger ones on here, at 16. There is about 3 or 4 teenagers on the list. All the guys on here are very knowledge-able and can answer anything. What are the numbers on the door jamb, and under the hood? Chances are the one under the hood has been switched. The one on mine has too, for what reason, I dont know. Welcome.-Tim1966 Chevelle
Re: [Chevelle-List] MCC show
Hi Tom- Yeah, actually I'd like to do that sometime- my job is about 5 min from the Del Memorial Bridge. I'm sure I could find you pretty quick- There's a car show here in DE this weekend that I'll probably be going to as well, at Midway Slots, just below Dover. I got to MCC but didn't know how to track you down- however I did see Herb's '66 El and loved it- that's the exact color I want my '66 if I can ever get it back together. Hope all's well! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Jim how close are ya to the NJ border. I am only 25 miles SE of Philly, maybe I could get ya over here for a show sometime. That front tag is sure getting some exposure I tell ya. Everyone knows it now!!! Tom __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] MCC show
Sorry thought this was directed to me. Disregard. Jim Brady '66 Malibu --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Jim how close are ya to the NJ border. I am only 25 miles SE of Philly, maybe I could get ya over here for a show sometime. That front tag is sure getting some exposure I tell ya. Everyone knows it now!!! Tom __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Flot-tech Headers
Anyone ever use the flo-tech headers on a 70 Chevelle smallblock? I've thought I remember hearing that It is better to get headers specifically for the chevelle and not the ones that also fit the camaro. Anyone have any problems with those type? Hedman shows ones for the 64-77chevelle /monte carlo/full size and ones that fit 67-69 camaro/64-77 chevelle (I think the years are right). The flowtechs price is $85 at Checker I think tey are about the same through summit and the hedmans are 105 at summit and 130 at a local speed shop. Any experiences? Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars
thats kool, my dad let me drive his Mustang GT with a 302 and a 5 speed. tough sucker to drive, but i got the hang of it real quick. the first 2 times i tried to pull out, it stalled on me, and the 3rd time it was tough, and by the 6th time,i was pulling out with no problem, and then the next trys were shifting from 1st to second, and that was not diffucult, believe it or not. my dad's shifting isnt as good as mine, im not trying to brag, but i shift from 1st to second flawlessly, and my dad still has the car bogging when shifting from 1st to second. its a hell of a lot of fun shifting, cannot wait to have a 4 speed '70 chevelle SS! ooo yea! - Original Message - From: eagle1978 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars Chad he says once the car is running that I can drive it in and out of drive ways and stuff, but ya I want to drive!I once started a mopar and I drive go carts alot but that's all. Kyle m - Original Message - From: Chad Playso To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars kyle, i was wondering, do you want to drive yet? or are you just very interested in cars? if you do want to drive, its a bummer, cause its gonna be 4 more years...right? or does your dad let you drive or something? (in parking lot or whatever?) - Original Message - From: eagle1978 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars thanks Chad, ya I think so too. hopefully the good luck will work! Kyle m - Original Message - From: Chad Playso To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars i agree with tim - chances are that the numbers under the hood has been changed. also, im one of the younger ones too at 15 years old. i love muscle cars too. good luck with your '64! i also feel like im more mature than most kids my age, lol. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars Kyle,Welcome to the list. Sounds like you have a great project car, but its alot of work! Im one of the younger ones on here, at 16. There is about 3 or 4 teenagers on the list. All the guys on here are very knowledge-able and can answer anything. What are the numbers on the door jamb, and under the hood? Chances are the one under the hood has been switched. The one on mine has too, for what reason, I dont know. Welcome.-Tim1966 Chevelle
[Chevelle-List] POA VALVE CHANGEOVER KIT
Is there any place anyone out there has gotten the poa valve/expansion valve to reciever drier expansion tube changeover kits at? Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Trunk Floor Replacement
The sheet metal itself is about 18 gauge and solid and the stampings are pretty close to correct. The floor they sell fits several years so there is a little trimming involved but I would buy another one from them if I needed one. As Mark Weber said in a previous post How I would do it again: 2. Buy new kit that extends further up the back wall and further up and over the rear axle hump. Don't worry if it costs $100 more it will be a better and easier fit, it will look better, and even if your time is only worth $5 an hour it will still pay for itself. I'm not sure a floor that fits his description is available but it would be worth looking for before you buy. Bill Vander Werf Chad Playso wrote: how did you like the ausley's trunk floor, is it very good quality? - Original Message
[Chevelle-List] VINTAGE AIR
Anyone running a Vintage air kit on a long water pump 68-72 Big Block Chevelle? Any pics. The last couple weeks have been brutal(for Ohio). My black on black car is pretty undriveable during the day. I look like I fell into a swimming pool after a short cruise. I've installed Vintage Air kits on other vehicles and was pleased with the kits. I'm very interested on which side the compressor mounts, did you move the alternator?, which pulley(s) is it driven from. I plan on leaving the ATI Procharger on so a custom pulley may be necessary..The intercooler plans are out the window..I NEED air tia Walt http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/CHEVELLE.htm Walter Bainey Network Engineer Network Services Kent State University - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Flot-tech Headers
Anyone ever use the flo-tech headers on a 70 Chevelle smallblock? I've thought I remember hearing that It is better to get headers specifically for the chevelle and not the ones that also fit the camaro. Anyone have any problems with those type? Hedman shows ones for the 64-77chevelle /monte carlo/full size and ones that fit 67-69 camaro/64-77 chevelle (I think the years are right). The flowtechs price is $85 at Checker I think tey are about the same through summit and the hedmans are 105 at summit and 130 at a local speed shop. Any experiences? I had long tube Hooker Chevelle headers for my small block '67 that did not fit all that well. Turns out they are the same as the Camaro header. My Headman shorty style headers did fit better, although it is an easier job to do with the shorter headers. I actually have my second set of headers, as the first ones had an exhaust leak from day one. The second set was of a different design. The first set had to be dimpled around the steering column, and the second set needed to be dimpled by the lower A-Arm where they hit the frame. At $85, the risk is low, but you might want to look at buying from the local speed shop. I was lucky enough to be able to drive to the Headman factory and let them inspect my headers while still in the car. If you buy through summit, then you need to return them to Summit if there is a problem. If you buy from your local speed shop, you could go right to them - much easier. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] U-Joints
Another option is to get a large C-clamp to compress the ends. A vice will work as well. Be very careful of the needle bearings in the caps. It's real easy for one to fall off the rim and into the bowl and you'll never get it compressed enough to get the snap ring back in. Frustrating to say the least. If the U-joints aren't fresh and the grease has hardened or thinned a bit, use a dab or two of wheel bearing grease to ensure the bearings stay against the wall of the cap. The hammer/socket method shown will work in a pinch - I've done a bunch that way. Just be sure the yoke is supported or you'll break off the ears. Good luck. Dale BTW Keith, nice diagram! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Keith CooperSent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 11:36 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] U-Joints See my Chevelle:http://home.mindspring.com/~keithc/index.html
RE: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars
Don't feel bad. I finally let my 30 year old son drive the GR8PMKN a couple of weeks ago and he killed it the first time too. It takes a while to get use to the clutch release point and how hard to press the gas. People have problems shifting that aren't used to it as well. They tend to stab the clutch in, grab the gearshift and yank it, then dump the clutch. Hang in there. Dale Almost forgot. After a couple of test miles, my son wound up driving the car from KC to Nashville for CB02 - he had a blast! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chad PlaysoSent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:39 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars thats kool, my dad let me drive his Mustang GT with a 302 and a 5 speed. tough sucker to drive, but i got the hang of it real quick. the first 2 times i tried to pull out, it stalled on me, and the 3rd time it was tough, and by the 6th time,i was pulling out with no problem, and then the next trys were shifting from 1st to second, and that was not diffucult, believe it or not. my dad's shifting isnt as good as mine, im not trying to brag, but i shift from 1st to second flawlessly, and my dad still has the car bogging when shifting from 1st to second. its a hell of a lot of fun shifting, cannot wait to have a 4 speed '70 chevelle SS! ooo yea! 1966 Chevelle
RE: [Chevelle-List] VINTAGE AIR
Walter, I'm waiting on a bracket from March to do mine. I've got a long pump in my 67 Chevelle (non-air originally) and put a March pulley kit on it last year. (See http://www.dalesplace.com/march/march_page_1.htm) Alternator is on the right (passenger) side. When I decided to go A/C I noticed that March offered the same kit for A/C as well...all I had to do was purchase the compressor bracket. It'll put the compressor on the drivers side (like later models) and the routing of the hose is the only concern. Unfortunately, the bracket is on backorder until early July but a local A/C shop and VA dealer is going to order the VA kit and do the custom installation. I just hope I get it done by the end of July. Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of wbainey Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 3:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] VINTAGE AIR Anyone running a Vintage air kit on a long water pump 68-72 Big Block Chevelle? Any pics. The last couple weeks have been brutal(for Ohio). My black on black car is pretty undriveable during the day. I look like I fell into a swimming pool after a short cruise. I've installed Vintage Air kits on other vehicles and was pleased with the kits. I'm very interested on which side the compressor mounts, did you move the alternator?, which pulley(s) is it driven from. I plan on leaving the ATI Procharger on so a custom pulley may be necessary..The intercooler plans are out the window..I NEED air tia Walt http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/CHEVELLE.htm Walter Bainey Network Engineer Network Services Kent State University - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] POA VALVE CHANGEOVER KIT
Brian, I got mine, along with new hoses and rebuilt compressor from Old Air Products, the are on the net. Bob - Original Message - From: Brian Zack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle List (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 3:51 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] POA VALVE CHANGEOVER KIT Is there any place anyone out there has gotten the poa valve/expansion valve to reciever drier expansion tube changeover kits at? Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Advice needed
Probably only his caretaker and insurance agent. LOL I saw an episode on My Classic Car where he took Dennis Gage on a ride in a Stanley Steamer. Jay has at least one good sized warehouse full of cars and shop equipment. I'll bet very few people have ever seen all his cars. I'm sure he has several being worked on and restored that we never get to see on TV. As far as Dennis Gage goes, I really wanna cut that queer mustache off his facebad! Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com
RE: [Chevelle-List] POA VALVE CHANGEOVER KIT
I did a search and they come up, but, it shows oldair.com and it isn't a good address. Do you have an web address for them by any chance? Brian Zack -Original Message- From: Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 4:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] POA VALVE CHANGEOVER KIT Brian, I got mine, along with new hoses and rebuilt compressor from Old Air Products, the are on the net. Bob - Original Message - From: Brian Zack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle List (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 3:51 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] POA VALVE CHANGEOVER KIT Is there any place anyone out there has gotten the poa valve/expansion valve to reciever drier expansion tube changeover kits at? Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars
The 305 was a V-6 six offered in GMC pick-ups, light duty dumps and school busesfrom 1960 through 1967. The 305 was a big block and was bored out to 351, 371 ... up to a 471 cu. GM also had a 702V-12 which was two 351's melded together.The 307 V-8 was offered in Chevy's from 1969 through 1975. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul O'BrienSent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 10:06 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle carsWelcome to the list Kyle, you've come to the right place. We all love muscle cars too. I'm not totally positive, but I don't think they had 305's until well after 64. It probably was a six, but not a 305. Am I wrong guys? Sorry Kyle, I'm 46 now and I'm still learning. (especially from these guys) Paul 84 El Camino SS eagle1978 wrote: hi I am a 12 year old who loves muscle cars. I really hate stupid little imports and I really don't like to blow my ears out with music so I listen to old rock and roll and I am very mechanically inclined.I actually like to blow my ears out with the sound of open headers instead. that way I have an excuse.lol.I think maybe I am a 40 year old stuck in a 12 year olds body.I kinda have realized that I am a very rare breed if you know what I mean.we have just bought a 64 300 which I hear is very rare. It has a bored 305 with headers.it currently needs a new a new carb.the float adj. is stripped and it needs to be rebuilt.we have stripped the int. where found that the floor boards are rotted and so is the trunk. all the quarters need to be replaced and so do the door skins. we also found that alot of the stuff is micky moused(it looks like some one my age did it).we are planning to do a g machine type thing with it. this will defiantly show the local Honda boys whose boss!we are going to paint it the original color 912 ice blue.also we have a problem with the vin. the one that is in the drivers side door jam says it was an original 6 cyl but the tag in the engine compartment says it is an 8 cyl.can someone help us with this please? and if anyone has any info on my model car can they please give me some infothanks,Kyle m.
RE: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars
I think Oldsmobile also had a 307 in the mid 80's in the cutlass, delta88 and in the 98's. I think it was just similar to the 305. Brian Zack'70 Chevelle Malibu -Original Message-From: Richard M. Pruett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 5:23 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars The 305 was a V-6 six offered in GMC pick-ups, light duty dumps and school busesfrom 1960 through 1967. The 305 was a big block and was bored out to 351, 371 ... up to a 471 cu. GM also had a 702V-12 which was two 351's melded together.The 307 V-8 was offered in Chevy's from 1969 through 1975. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul O'BrienSent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 10:06 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle carsWelcome to the list Kyle, you've come to the right place. We all love muscle cars too. I'm not totally positive, but I don't think they had 305's until well after 64. It probably was a six, but not a 305. Am I wrong guys? Sorry Kyle, I'm 46 now and I'm still learning. (especially from these guys) Paul 84 El Camino SS eagle1978 wrote: hi I am a 12 year old who loves muscle cars. I really hate stupid little imports and I really don't like to blow my ears out with music so I listen to old rock and roll and I am very mechanically inclined.I actually like to blow my ears out with the sound of open headers instead. that way I have an excuse.lol.I think maybe I am a 40 year old stuck in a 12 year olds body.I kinda have realized that I am a very rare breed if you know what I mean.we have just bought a 64 300 which I hear is very rare. It has a bored 305 with headers.it currently needs a new a new carb.the float adj. is stripped and it needs to be rebuilt.we have stripped the int. where found that the floor boards are rotted and so is the trunk. all the quarters need to be replaced and so do the door skins. we also found that alot of the stuff is micky moused(it looks like some one my age did it).we are planning to do a g machine type thing with it. this will defiantly show the local Honda boys whose boss!we are going to paint it the original color 912 ice blue.also we have a problem with the vin. the one that is in the drivers side door jam says it was an original 6 cyl but the tag in the engine compartment says it is an 8 cyl.can someone help us with this please? and if anyone has any info on my model car can they please give me some infothanks,Kyle m.
Re: [Chevelle-List] 69 Malibu 454 badges?
I'd bet this is what the guy used! Sicne you have them in front of you, would you please measure the overall height and width of this badge? I want to see if I can use them to modify the side marker badge to custom build a 454 Malibu badge. :-) thanks, John Nasta wrote: Here's a pic: http://www.oldcarnetwork.com/Merchant2/graphics/gmparts/CHV4700.jpg -Original Message- You can always get a set of 454 badges from a early 70s Corvette. No SS or other script, just the 454 numbers. I had a 74 Vette, 454, and the badge just stuck on the hood with adhesive. Dale - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com and my For Sale page at http://www.ProStreetCar.com/classifieds.html Tremec Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com Team Chevelle membership #178 (Gold) - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] 305 Chevy/307 Olds
Olds had a 307 from 81-88 used in Cutlass Supreme, Delta 88, 98 Regency, Caprice Station Wagons, and some Cadillacs. That engine is good for nothing except a boat anchor, except for the fact that for some unknown reason, it did have a good amount of low end torque. I had one in my 86 Cutlass and believe it or not it did pretty good burnouts even with 2.41 gears. I dumped it in favor a mildly built 350 chevy :-). The 305 V-8 was in 77-88 Monte Carlos, Malibus, Camaros, Firebirds, GMC/Chevy pick up trucks/suburbans/Blazers. 305 HO was in MC SS, 442/Hurst Olds and Z28's if I remember correctly. 307 Chevy was 68-73 passenger cars and some trucks, I have one in my 69 Chevelle. Tom
RE: [Chevelle-List] 305 Chevy/307 Olds
In 68 they still had 283's and 327's, their last year, and they did run until '75. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 7:46 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] 305 Chevy/307 OldsOlds had a 307 from 81-88 used in Cutlass Supreme, Delta 88, 98 Regency, Caprice Station Wagons, and some Cadillacs. That engine is good for nothing except a boat anchor, except for the fact that for some unknown reason, it did have a good amount of low end torque. I had one in my 86 Cutlass and believe it or not it did pretty good burnouts even with 2.41 gears. I dumped it in favor a mildly built 350 chevy :-). The 305 V-8 was in 77-88 Monte Carlos, Malibus, Camaros, Firebirds, GMC/Chevy pick up trucks/suburbans/Blazers. 305 HO was in MC SS, 442/Hurst Olds and Z28's if I remember correctly. 307 Chevy was 68-73 passenger cars and some trucks, I have one in my 69 Chevelle.Tom
Re: [Chevelle-List] Advice needed
I can't say I wouldn't do the same if I had his kind of money. Well we can dream anyway. 396guy wrote: Probably only his caretaker and insurance agent. LOL I saw an episode on My Classic Car where he took Dennis Gage on a ride in a Stanley Steamer. Jay has at least one good sized warehouse full of cars and shop equipment. Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul O'Brien Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Advice needed I know Jay has a lot of cars, but has anyone seen all of them? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/26/02 6:56:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought Southern California was home to ALL the good cars. The problem is they are sitting in Jay Leno's garage/warehouse. Mark - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Advice needed
I agree, but I'd like to grab both sides and see if I can swing him around a few times first. As far as Dennis Gage goes, I really wanna cut that queer mustache off his facebad! Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com
Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars
There you go, I knew somebody would know. "Richard M. Pruett" wrote: The 305 was a V-6 six offered in GMC pick-ups, light duty dumps and school buses from 1960 through 1967. The 305 was a big block and was bored out to 351, 371 ... up to a 471 cu. GM also had a 702 V-12 which was two 351's melded together. The 307 V-8 was offered in Chevy's from 1969 through 1975. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul O'Brien Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars Welcome to the list Kyle, you've come to the right place. We all love muscle cars too. I'm not totally positive, but I don't think they had 305's until well after 64. It probably was a six, but not a 305. Am I wrong guys? Sorry Kyle, I'm 46 now and I'm still learning. (especially from these guys) Paul 84 El Camino SS eagle1978 wrote: hi I am a 12 year old who loves muscle cars. I really hate stupid little imports and I really don't like to blow my ears out with music so I listen to old rock and roll and I am very mechanically inclined.I actually like to blow my ears out with the sound of open headers instead. that way I have an excuse.lol.I think maybe I am a 40 year old stuck in a 12 year olds body.I kinda have realized that I am a very rare breed if you know what I mean. we have just bought a 64 300 which I hear is very rare. It has a bored 305 with headers.it currently needs a new a new carb.the float adj. is stripped and it needs to be rebuilt.we have stripped the int. where found that the floor boards are rotted and so is the trunk. all the quarters need to be replaced and so do the door skins. we also found that alot of the stuff is micky moused(it looks like some one my age did it).we are planning to do a g machine type thing with it. this will defiantly show the local Honda boys whose boss!we are going to paint it the original color 912 ice blue.also we have a problem with the vin. the one that is in the drivers side door jam says it was an original 6 cyl but the tag in the engine compartment says it is an 8 cyl.can someone help us with this please? and if anyone has any info on my model car can they please give me some info thanks,Kyle m.
Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars
Some Chevelles had 307's too didn't they? Were they as lame as a 305? Brian Zack wrote: I think Oldsmobile also had a 307 in the mid 80's in the cutlass, delta88 and in the 98's. I think it was just similar to the 305.Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu -Original Message- From: Richard M. Pruett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 5:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars The 305 was a V-6 six offered in GMC pick-ups, light duty dumps and school buses from 1960 through 1967. The 305 was a big block and was bored out to 351, 371 ... up to a 471 cu. GM also had a 702 V-12 which was two 351's melded together. The 307 V-8 was offered in Chevy's from 1969 through 1975. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul O'Brien Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars Welcome to the list Kyle, you've come to the right place. We all love muscle cars too. I'm not totally positive, but I don't think they had 305's until well after 64. It probably was a six, but not a 305. Am I wrong guys? Sorry Kyle, I'm 46 now and I'm still learning. (especially from these guys) Paul 84 El Camino SS eagle1978 wrote: hi I am a 12 year old who loves muscle cars. I really hate stupid little imports and I really don't like to blow my ears out with music so I listen to old rock and roll and I am very mechanically inclined.I actually like to blow my ears out with the sound of open headers instead. that way I have an excuse.lol.I think maybe I am a 40 year old stuck in a 12 year olds body.I kinda have realized that I am a very rare breed if you know what I mean. we have just bought a 64 300 which I hear is very rare. It has a bored 305 with headers.it currently needs a new a new carb.the float adj. is stripped and it needs to be rebuilt.we have stripped the int. where found that the floor boards are rotted and so is the trunk. all the quarters need to be replaced and so do the door skins. we also found that alot of the stuff is micky moused(it looks like some one my age did it).we are planning to do a g machine type thing with it. this will defiantly show the local Honda boys whose boss!we are going to paint it the original color 912 ice blue.also we have a problem with the vin. the one that is in the drivers side door jam says it was an original 6 cyl but the tag in the engine compartment says it is an 8 cyl.can someone help us with this please? and if anyone has any info on my model car can they please give me some info thanks,Kyle m.
Re: [Chevelle-List] 305 Chevy/307 Olds
thanks to all for the info! Kyle m - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 4:46 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] 305 Chevy/307 Olds Olds had a 307 from 81-88 used in Cutlass Supreme, Delta 88, 98 Regency, Caprice Station Wagons, and some Cadillacs. That engine is good for nothing except a boat anchor, except for the fact that for some unknown reason, it did have a good amount of low end torque. I had one in my 86 Cutlass and believe it or not it did pretty good burnouts even with 2.41 gears. I dumped it in favor a mildly built 350 chevy :-). The 305 V-8 was in 77-88 Monte Carlos, Malibus, Camaros, Firebirds, GMC/Chevy pick up trucks/suburbans/Blazers. 305 HO was in MC SS, 442/Hurst Olds and Z28's if I remember correctly. 307 Chevy was 68-73 passenger cars and some trucks, I have one in my 69 Chevelle.Tom
Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars
In a message dated 6/27/2002 8:33:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some Chevelles had 307's too didn't they? Were they as lame as a 305? Yes, my 69 has a 307. It's not as bad as the late 70's early 80's 305. It can light up the tires :-). Thats the first thing i did when i started it up in the garage, lil powerbrake action. Tom
Re:[Chevelle-List] POA VALVE CHANGEOVER KIT
www.oldairproducts has a conversion kit. But I believe that it changes the system to a clutch cycling system. Do a search at www.google.com and you will find many vendors. rick -- Brian Zack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Brian Zack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle List (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] POA VALVE CHANGEOVER KIT Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 13:51:29 -0600 Is there any place anyone out there has gotten the poa valve/expansion valve to reciever drier expansion tube changeover kits at? Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rick schaefer 72 El camino http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html ACES #00140 Team Chevelle #00038 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] disc conversion kit
I just recieved this email thought that someone else on the list might be interested. -- Forwarded Message -- From: jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FREE Slotted Rotors with Disc Brake Conversion Kits FREE FREIGHT TOO! Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 14:20:33 -0400 Our Bolt-On Disc Brake Conversion Kits (for both cars trucks) give you the benefit of Faster, Safer Stopping power! A true bolt-on, they can be installed in a few hours with simple hand tools. Plus, now if you order a Front or Rear, Car or Truck Disc Brake Conversion Kit you'll receive FREE Gas Slotted Rotors! FREE Slotted Rotors, FREE FREIGHT... now's the time to stop thinking about safer, faster braking and pick up the phone to call Jerry toll free at 800-572-3768. Order your Kit(s) today. YOU MUST MENTION E-MAIL PROMOTION FREE SLOTTED ROTORS/FREE FREIGHT IMMEDIATELY when ordering from Jerry. Check the applications at http://www.performancesuspension.com offer ends 7/31/02 rick schaefer 72 El camino http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html ACES #00140 Team Chevelle #00038 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] MCC show
I'm about 15 minutes west of Wilmington, so it wouldn't be too far of a hike (it'd be closer than our annual trek to Carlisle!). Jim -69-SS396- H. On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 23:43:48 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey Jim how close are ya to the NJ border. I am only 25 miles SE of Philly, maybe I could get ya over here for a show sometime. That front tag is sure getting some exposure I tell ya. Everyone knows it now!!! Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars
If your Chevelle had a 307, it's not factory; they weren't offered! Yes, my 69 has a 307. It's not as bad as the late 70's early 80's 305. It can light up the tires :-). Thats the first thing i did when i started it up in the garage, lil powerbrake action.Tom
Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars
Some Chevelles had 307's too didn't they? Were they as lame as a 305? Yes they did and no they weren't...the 307's actually ran well. My G-Mom put over 200k on one from 1971-1990. Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com
Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars
In a message dated 6/27/2002 10:09:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: they weren't offered! yes they were, I have had 2 Chevelles with a 307. The 69 I am currently restoing and a 70 that I sold about 4 years ago. Look up the casting number 3956632 (Passenger car, Chevelle, Camaro, Nova, truck). I also know where there are about 4 more Chevelles with 307's in them, 2 of which are 68's
Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars
I'm afraid you are wrong on that one. My Dad had a 69 el camino, red with a black vinyl top, that I wish I could get my hands on today. It had a 307 with a powerglide. The reason that I know for sure that it had a 307 in it is because I blew his up for him when I was a kid. He really appreciated me doing that for him. I don't know why he didn't kill me Bill Vander Werf Richard M. Pruett wrote: If your Chevelle had a 307, it's not factory; they weren't offered! Yes, my 69 has a 307. It's not as bad as the late 70's early 80's 305. It can light up the tires :-). Thats the first thing i did when i started it up in the garage, lil powerbrake action. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars
If your Chevelle had a 307, it's not factory; they weren't offered! Yep they were, better check your sources. I've seen more than a dozen in my timeall factory motors. Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com
Re: [Chevelle-List] i love muscle cars
I thought they were. I remember seeing some 69 Chevelles in the early 70's with 307's. My wife (then girlfriend ) wanted a yellow Chevelle with a 307, but her dad wouldn't co-sign for a 16 year old. She had a 65 Impala SS, convertible with a 327. "Richard M. Pruett" wrote: If your Chevelle had a 307, it's not factory; they weren't offered! Yes, my 69 has a 307. It's not as bad as the late 70's early 80's 305. It can light up the tires :-). Thats the first thing i did when i started it up in the garage, lil powerbrake action. Tom
RE: [Chevelle-List] 69 Malibu 454 badges?
I also have a 350 front marker bezel (1969) in front of me, and it looks like the 454 would fit right in. 69 front marker bezels are hard to come by though. The 454 is about 3-3/8 x 5/8. -Original Message- I'd bet this is what the guy used! Sicne you have them in front of you, would you please measure the overall height and width of this badge? I want to see if I can use them to modify the side marker badge to custom build a 454 Malibu badge. :-) thanks, John Nasta wrote: Here's a pic: http://www.oldcarnetwork.com/Merchant2/graphics/gmparts/CHV4700.jpg -Original Message- You can always get a set of 454 badges from a early 70s Corvette. No SS or other script, just the 454 numbers. I had a 74 Vette, 454, and the badge just stuck on the hood with adhesive. Dale - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com and my For Sale page at http://www.ProStreetCar.com/classifieds.html Tremec Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com Team Chevelle membership #178 (Gold) - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]