[CTRL] Whites a minority in half America's biggest cities
-Caveat Lector- There are at least five entire counties in my state, Alabama, with Black majorities. Possibly seven are as it is not something I have checked on new census. I do not know if this is anything of recent times or if it has been so pre-War of Northern Aggression but would think that it has been so since then. Now if you factor in the new huge Hispanic population, that number would increase. So we have large areas of this country with white minorities where it is not really anything new. What I wonder is should whites living in those counties receive special treatment like affirmative action in local government hiring, contracts, etc. Amelia - Original Message - From: Bill Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 12:22 AM Subject: [CTRL] Whites a minority in half America's biggest cities -Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Whites a minority in half America's biggest cities By Ben Fenton in Washington Population and household economic topics - United States Census Bureau [2000] WHITE people are now in a minority in almost half of America's 100 biggest cities, according to figures from the 2000 census published yesterday. Although the great metropolitan centres such as New York, Los Angeles and Chicago have long been ethnic melting pots, smaller and more traditionally European-American cities have joined the list of places where blacks, Hispanics and Asians combine to outnumber whites. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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{{When you just gotta know every five minutes if there is a new conspiracy
afoot or get that instant update, NewsNow even has a section on Conspiracy
Theories. Does this mean we have finally gone mainstream?
Amelia}}
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[CTRL] Report: Jesse Jackson Sued for Child Support
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{{So Jesse has not seen this child since January and now the mother is
having to sue him for child support. I thought he just told the American
public how he was going to be there for this child and be a part of her
life, etc. Oh, well! I guess he is busy staging more bogus civil rights
violations and fabricating racism. Or creating more illegitimate children
to neglect. Not only does this man have no shame, he has no heart, either.
Amelia}}
Sunday April 29 12:54 PM ET
Report: Jesse Jackson Sued for Child Support
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CHICAGO (Reuters) - The mother of Rev. Jesse Jackson (news - web sites)'s
out-of-wedlock daughter has sued him for formal child-support and visitation
arrangements, the Chicago Tribune reported on Sunday.
The civil lawsuit was filed about two weeks ago in California after
negotiations with Jackson and his attorneys over much of the past year
failed to produce an agreement, the newspaper reported.
Jackson, 59, acknowledged in January that he had fathered a child with Karin
Stanford, 39, a former top aide in an organization affiliated with the civil
rights leader's Rainbow/PUSH Coalition.
Jackson said at the time that he was providing financial support of about
$3,000 a month for the girl, who turns 2 next month. Stanford also received
a payment of $35,000 dollars when she left the organization.
A spokeswoman for Stanford said Jackson, who is married, had not seen the
child since the story broke in January, the Tribune reported. A hearing is
set for May 9 in a family court in Los Angeles, where Stanford lives with
the child, it said.
Last month Jackson made a rare financial disclosure to parry questions about
payments made to Stanford.
The Tribune said details, including Jackson's $120,000 annual salary, were
included in a 102-page statement that he gave the newspaper to counteract
questions raised about his finances.
The disclosure came after the National Legal and Policy Center, a
conservative Virginia-based group, said it had filed a complaint with the
Internal Revenue Service (news - web sites).
It said that one of Jackson's tax-exempt groups, the Citizenship Education
Fund, may have violated tax law by using funds for personal purposes,
questioning whether ``paying off a mistress ... is a legitimate use of
assets.''
Stanford was executive director of the education fund.
Jackson also released financial information amid questions about whether he
stifled his criticism of corporate America in exchange for donations to his
organization.
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Re: [CTRL] Whites a minority in half America's biggest cities
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Amelia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 7:25 AM Subject: [CTRL] Whites a minority in half America's biggest cities What I wonder is should whites living in those counties receive special treatment like affirmative action in local government hiring, contracts, etc. Amelia i think the whites should be given their own homelands. reservations if you will. crime will probably go down and you can open casinos. or beg or something. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Cheney says energy plan must aim for 'efficiency, not austerity'
-Caveat Lector- (No conservation from the two oilmen leading our country? I am shocked! The oil industry. Can't live with them, can't live without 'em. The perfect business for the NWO. --SW) Cheney says energy plan must aim for 'efficiency, not austerity' By SANDRA SOBIERAJ, Associated Press TORONTO (April 30, 2001 4:57 p.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) - Vice President Dick Cheney warned on Monday that the rest of the country could face California-style blackouts as he outlined a national energy strategy relying heavily on oil, natural gas and nuclear power development - but not conservation. The aim here is efficiency, not austerity, Cheney told editors and publishers at The Associated Press annual meeting. The nation cannot simply conserve or ration our way out of the situation we're in. It was his first trip outside Washington for official vice presidential business, made possible, he joked, when President Bush invited the Senate to lunch - the best way to ensure no tie votes while I was out of town. Bush invited all members of Congress to the White House to mark the first 100 days of his administration. Cheney addressed concerns about his history of four heart attacks by jokingly offering to do jumping jacks. More seriously, he said, If I ever get to the point where my doctors believe that it's not wise or prudent for me to continue in this capacity, obviously I'd step aside. In his first extensive remarks about the energy recommendations his Cabinet-level task force will make to Bush by the end of May, Cheney blamed current shortages on shortsighted decisions in the past. He said that conservation, while perhaps a sign of personal virtue, does not make for sound or comprehensive policy. Saving the specifics - and the price tags - for his boss to review and then announce, Cheney promised a mix of new legislation, some executive action as well as private initiatives to cope with rising energy prices and growing demand. He said anew that the administration intends to push for drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge despite strong congressional opposition. He definitively rejected turning to price controls, tapping the Strategic Petroleum Reserve or creating new bureaucracies. Over the next two decades, it will take between 1,300 and 1,900 new power plants - or one every week for 20 years - just to meet projected increases in nationwide demand, Cheney said. Energy shortages in California already have forced rolling blackouts. And he said, Without a clear, coherent energy strategy for the nation, all Americans could one day go through what Californians are experiencing now, or even worse. The vice president, who made millions of dollars as an oil services' company executive, made no bones about placing oil, coal and other fossil fuels at the center his recommendations. Alternative fuels are still years down the road, he said. The Bush administration wants to open the Arctic refuge in Alaska to oil drilling, a controversial plan that could be executed, Cheney said, with very little disruption to the refuge's 19 million acres of natural habitat: The amount of land affected by oil production would be 2,000 acres, less than one-fifth the size of (the Washington area's) Dulles Airport. Along with additional exploration must come new refineries, Cheney said, noting that it has been 20 years since a large oil refinery was built in the United States. He also suggested federal initiatives to boost the use of hydroelectric dams and the construction of new nuclear power plants. He called nuclear power a safe, clean, very plentiful energy source. Although one-fifth of the nation's electricity is nuclear-generated, the industry has not sought a government permit to build a new plant in more than 20 years, since before the accident at Pennsylvania's Three Mile Island. In developing hydroelectric power, Cheney said the Bush administration, whose environmental record has been sharply questioned by activists, would be mindful of the fish and wildlife affected by manmade dams. He put in a good word for coal, which he said remains the most available, most affordable way to generate electric power. The Bush administration has budgeted an additional $150 million for next year to support development of cleaner coal technologies. On natural gas, Cheney called for some 38,000 miles of additional pipeline and thousands of miles of added distribution lines to bring natural gas into homes and businesses. He did not mention expanded exploration off the eastern Gulf of Mexico. Acting on a campaign proposal, the president is committed to extending offshore oil and gas drilling to the eastern Gulf of Mexico in a tract that, in some areas, comes within 30 miles of the western tip of the Florida Panhandle. Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who is seeking re-election amid widespread local opposition to the drilling, has petitioned the administration to cancel an auction of new drilling leases. ANOMALOUS IMAGES
Re: [CTRL] Cheney says energy plan must aim for 'efficiency, not austerity'
-Caveat Lector- On 1 May 01, at 0:27, Cheney: Alternative fuels are still years down the road, he said. Translation: The Republicans (Reagan et al.) killed any funding of alternative energy sources, and that is the way it shall stay in the forseeable future, until fossile fuels run out. Then we shall have Free Energy, not a minute sooner. (And guess who has been accumulating the free energy technology in the mean time. Hehe) Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Neocons and Free Speech
-Caveat Lector- http://www.lewrockwell.com/gottfried/gottfried12.html Neocons and Free Speech by Paul Gottfried A key point that my polemic on the neocons and free speech failed to make is that the issues being discussed go back a long way. Already in the seventies the Straussian wing of the neocon persuasion was expressing the judgment that the First Amendment only serves to protect good speech. Walter Berns, of Georgetown and AEI, dealt at length with this subject in The First Amendment and the Future of American Democracy, a work that condemns the practice of extending tolerance to the opponents of liberal democracy, as understood by Bernes and his friends. Furthermore, neocons made a slanderous racket against Southern conservative scholar M.E. Bradford, when this well-mannered gentleman was being considered for the directorship of the NEH in 1981. The attacks that the neocon press unleashed against Bradford strongly suggested that his published critical remarks on Lincoln and, more generally, on the civil rights movement had no place in the democratic society that the neocons were then fashioning. In my own book on The Conservative Movement, particularly the second edition, I focus on these odious events of the early eighties. Note that there is no justification for the impression that the tirades against politically incorrect speech, launched from the Left, in the New York Post represents a new phase of neocon mischief. Conspiring against liberty has been the practice of that group all along. What did separate their old arguments from their most recent ones was an attempt until recently to dress up the fear of rightwing expressiveness in a diversionary garb. Thus the anti-free speech polemics published by Berns, Kristol, Sr., and other Straussian ideologues twenty or thirty years ago went after pornography and the use of the First Amendment by Communist Party members. There was also a preference expressed, at least in the case of Kristol, for having local authorities do the restricting of published material and an emphasis on the morally harmful effect of sexually degrading materials. As a strict constitutionalist and a moral traditionalist, I personally had no problems with this position at the time. There also seemed to be some merit in the arguments made by Straussians against free speech absolutists, who wished to treat all ideas as having the same intrinsic moral or intellectual worth. One might also endorse up to a point the then-popular neocon (and Buckleyite) reminder that a lunatic should not be allowed to cry fire without ample justification in a crowded place and, by extension, to incite the violent overthrow of the American constitutional order. But such rhetoric concealed unstated premises: that the federal government has the same right to censor as does a town or a state, that controls that might be appropriate for a community in dealing with pornography should also be extended to federal bureaucrats enforcing democratic ideology, that because an idea is wrong political censors are necessary, and that one can go on regulating subversive thought without this practice becoming addictive. By the eighties what had been probable turned into fact: Neocon publicists were making the federal government into the protector of public morals and identifying such morals with their own political concerns. One must still look in vain for a single complaint in a neocon publication directed against the criminalization of speech and writing that has gone on in Europe. The bizarre coverage of the battle between David Irving and (my fellow-German Jew) Deborah Lipstadt by the rising neocon star Jacob Heilbrunn in National Review (April 2) is a case in point. Heilbrunn celebrates Lipstadts success in defeating Irvings libel case against her as a victory against anti-Semitism being fomented by Holocaust-deniers. Contrary to the apparently easy-going British establishment historians, Heilbrunn insists on following Lipstadts course, to deny the deniers the publicity they crave. He also strongly indicates that the refusal to embrace this course, and to treat Irving as a serious historian of the Second World War, reflects lingering anti-Semitic attitudes. But what Heilbrunn offers is less a defense of historical accuracy than a whitewash of Lipstadt and of the Simon Wiesenthal Center that sponsors her. Lipstadt and her sponsors having been working famously, ever since I can recall, to stamp out politically incorrect speech and publications as a dangerous source of anti-Semitism. Every time a European government muzzles rightwing critics, it is the Wiesenthal Centers concern that is cited as a consideration. The view of civil liberties that the Center and Lipstadt embody is impeccably totalitarian, and it is quite possible that Irving, or someone distributing his books, will soon be going to jail somewhere in Europe because
Re: [CTRL] Behold There is a Dead Horse..
-Caveat Lector- Saba, Can you give the source of this material? There might be some info of value here but the author makes one very critical mistake when he/she writes: According to eye-witness testimony, the CIA agent in charge of this covert operation, wearing the uniform of an AF Colonel, was William C. Cooper. Note: The information in the preceding paragraph was supplied by an eyewitness who participated in the covert operation described, working side by side with the CIA agent in charge. This witness testifies that this is the same William C. Cooper, who has been prominent since 1988 in the civilian UFO movement. I don't know who William C. Cooper is, but the Bill Cooper who authored Behold a Pale Horse and many UFO documents on the internet is William Milton Cooper. This is according to a cassette of his book that says copyright 1991 William Milton Cooper that I have in my hand right now. This may be an easily-explained mistake but I would like to ask the poster about it. Dale Stonehouse A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Three Reasons -- What Went Wrong?
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.consortiumnews.com/050101a.html Click Here: A HREF=http://www.consortiumnews.com/050101a.html;The Consortium/A - Three Reasons -- What Went Wrong? By Robert Parry May 1, 2001The intersection of three recent events all anchored in the Cold War, dating from its earliest days to almost its end help explain what went wrong with American democracy over the past half century and why an honest recounting of history is so important to set matters right. One of these events dating back to roughly the mid-point of the Cold War was the revelation that former Sen. Bob Kerrey, D-Neb., led a 1969 raid against the Vietnamese village of Thanh Phong, an operation that all participants agree went terribly wrong, killing about 20 civilians. Though there is heated dispute about whether most of those killings were deliberate, what's not in dispute about the raid is troubling enough. This was not a military attack in the conventional sense. It was not a search-and-destroy mission seeking out a military force for combat. The raids goal was the assassination of Thanh Phongs village leader roughly the equivalent of mayor who was suspected of Viet Cong activity. It was a takeout in the military euphemism of the time, much like the thousands of assassinations carried out by U.S. Special Forces teams under CIA direction in the Phoenix program. In 1969, Kerrey was a gung-ho, inexperienced lieutenant with the Navy Seals, an elite commando unit that was created in World War II for underwater sabotage. By the Vietnam War, the Seals had changed. Like other Special Forces units, they had added assassination to their military repertoire. Typically, Navy Seals undertook kidnap or assassination missions, looking to eliminate Viet Cong leaders from among the local population, wrote journalist Gregory L. Vistica in The New York Times Magazine [April 29, 2001] Quoting former Army Capt. David Marion, the senior U.S. military adviser in the area in 1969, Vistica wrote, These were called takeouts. After being dropped off near the Mekong Delta village, in the dark of night on Feb. 25, 1969, Kerreys seven-member Seal team moved toward Thanh Phong. But his men were surprised to find a hut that was not on the map. Out of fear that the people in the hut might alert the other villagers, Kerreys men slipped in and used knives to kill the inhabitants, who turned out to be two elderly civilians and their three grandchildren, according to The New York Times article. Standard operating procedure was to dispose of the people we made contact with, Kerrey is quoted as saying. Kill the people we made contact with, or we have to abort the mission. Kerrey said he believed at the time the civilians in the hut were a Viet Cong security attachment and that the hut was an outpost. Gerhard Klann, the most experienced member of Kerreys squad, gave the Times the most detailed and most damning account of the brutality of the raid. Klann tied Kerrey directly to the killings of the civilians in the first hut, though Kerrey has claimed a faulty memory about his role in those initial killings. Cover Story After the story surfaced last week, Kerrey and the five other former Seals met to coordinate a counter story. This joint statement, issued on Saturday, challenges some of Klanns account. But the six Seals do not dispute Klanns statements about killing Vietnamese civilians in the first hut. The joint statement said simply, At an enemy outpost we used lethal methods to keep our presence from being detected. What happened next is in greater dispute. Klann says neither the targeted village leader nor any Viet Cong fighters were found in the village. Nevertheless, when the search was completed, the civilians about 15 old men, women and children had been rounded up and concentrated in one location. To protect the teams withdrawal, Kerrey ordered the civilians executed, Klann said. Kerreys raiders opened fire on the villagers, killing one baby last, Klann said. There were blood and guts splattering everywhere, he said. Kerrey and the other five former Seals deny Klanns account of a premeditated massacre. They claim they were fired upon by someone in the village and returned fire, ultimately expending 1,200 rounds of ammunition. In earlier interviews, Kerrey said he and his men eventually approached the huts and were shocked to discover that the victims were all old men, women and children. The thing that I will remember until the day I die is walking in and finding, I don't know, 14 or so, I don't even know what the number was, women and children who were dead, Kerrey said. The joint statement issued Saturday, however, seems to contradict even Kerreys original version of events. We took fire from these (enemy) forces and we returned fire, the statement said. Knowing our presence had been compromised and that our lives were endangered we
Re: [CTRL] Whites a minority in half America's biggest cities
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/1/01 12:06:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i think the whites should be given their own homelands. reservations if you will. crime will probably go down and you can open casinos. or beg or something. We are adding this post to your permeant FBI file with a copy to the Home Secretary.:) THEM A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Cheney says energy plan must aim for 'efficiency, not austerity'
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/1/01 12:49:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then we shall have Free Energy, not a minute sooner. (And guess who has been accumulating the free energy technology in the mean time. Hehe) Sounds like a good business strategy to me. Bill H A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CFR Controlled AFSCME
-Caveat Lector- An illegal strike brought King to his death; in 1968 Jerry Wurf, one of the first labor leaders to enter the CFR, invited King down for dues check off, for you see this is what the strike was about. Dues were to be taken out directly from one's paycheck; now the sanitation departments around the country under AFSCME run the Unions and I saw that first hand. This story on Jesse Jackson has been polished up; for some say this is not his real name...like King, and Clinton, and Ford and Ehud Barak, and Ariel Sharon, and Jesse Ventura that is not his real name.. we got here more blbical stuff I will give you a new name.and Hitler, that was not his real name for Churchill and Wild Bill Donovan believed Hitler was Jewish.he sure used OT rituals. My old boss Stanley Petrosky, knew Jerry Wurf in New York City - he was a known communist. The Reuther brothers detested communism - look what happened to Walter - have his funeral program sent to me by friend, and it did a lot of quoting from Daniel for those that be knew this man was murdered. Jesse lied about being with King when he died; he liked about many thing - do not think he lied about the fact he was a bastard but he did lie about his two bastard children. HIs credentials were questionable to say the least and this civil rights movment attempted to bring the Space Program to a halt. I believe it will be the white man who will return to their own planet someday, from whence they came.leave this Planet of the Apes for it is dying. Look at the cities, Jackie Kennedy said before she died - look at the cities - her children were not safe to play in Central Park.once she was approached by a woman who said your mother is a witch - she did not weep; shades of Job. Glad Jackie did not leave to see her only son murdered as was his father by the same secret society. There were men who stood by Jackson who claimed they were sick and tired of this Jesus being stuck down their throats; you call Jesse a real American who loves to run to his commrades for favors? Cities have been going black for a long long time; but you may be assured Jesse Jackson would feel more at home in Africa working for Mugabee perhaps? Imagine he would chip in and dig the graves for the white farmers who have ben mutilated and whose wives were raped by AIDS infested blacks - these farmers had fed these people now they scream food, we need corn. I would send them some of that genetially engineered stuff the CFR and Kissinger tries to pass off on us pore white folk who are fed up with - well after all, the white man did invent Civil Rights? Maybe its about time we changec the law for it seems to apply only to the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons - the former with two known bastards running about and the latter living in $1200.00 donated suits. Remember the little Church in Indianapolis? Sounds like they might have a good case of discrimination for it is obvious this is a Church the ADL no doubt had on their hit hate list, as the work along the sides of the road agitating race riots, and at the same time providing money to bribe public officials? Militias - Christians - Whites - Moslems - all are on the ADL Hit Hate List..lets send all these big rich Jesse Jacksons down to Palm Springs - now the Great Farrakhan is right - give the blacks their own space - for it might be a while before the ancient astronauts will return home to their fathers? So suddenly Jesse's hush money has been stopped? Well $3,000 a month was pretty heavy child support and of course Jesse could not afford that on a mere $120,000 per year.does that man have a Church? Intesting item not totally accurate; but guess who invited King to his death where he died for dues check off, for this is was primary objective of this march - who got the room for King? Why did King die timed to a bible calendar playing a role of a Moses - climbed Mt. Nebo an was knocked off at summit before he took the big fall? Today is May Day - Marxist Day - Happy Marxist Day Joshua - Dr Poley wanted to know who the hell Joshua was - seems he does not recall thy name, asshole. Saba RELATED INFO Jackson, Jesse (Louis) 1941 -- Civil rights leader. Born Jesse Louis Jackson on October 18, 1941, in Greenville, South Carolina, a city beset with the problems of racial segregation. From birth, Jackson faced his own personal brand of discrimination. As a young girl his mother, Helen Burns, became pregnant by her married next-door neighbor, Noah Robinson. The young boy was shunned and taunted by his neighbors and school classmates for being a nobody who had no daddy. Instead of letting this adversity defeat him, Jackson developed his exceptional drive and empathy for the oppressed. His mother eventually married and became a successful hairdresser while his stepfather, a postal employee, adopted Jackson in 1957. With helpful advice from his maternal grandmother and his own desire to
Re: [CTRL] Whites a minority in half America's biggest cities
-Caveat Lector- Just keep these black homosexuals out of the boy scouts, for one out of three male homosexuals has AIDS.they are dying to get their hands of little cub scouts, white in particular. Let the have the cities - and I have a feeling a bigger boot is about to come down on these lawbreakers - like the ones in Wichita who murdered 5 whites, one was to be a priest and a lady who was a cellosithigh type people murdered and egged on by Jesse Jackson. Remember Jesse told the story of spitting in white people's food; nice thought blacks with AIDS sptting about? I will not eat in any restaurant where I cannot see food prepared and I want to know something about the Chef. So they say London Bridge is really falling down; now remember some of the Aids infested blood Clinton sold to Canada, also went to England.and to Scotland.and who knows where all it went. Surely inasmuch as the Jehovovah Witnesses knew this blood was polluted long before name of AIDS came up one can only conclude that Clinton knew the blood he sold woudl be fatal and spread like wildfire - slaughter of more innocents. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Whites a minority in half America's biggest cities
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Bill Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Whites a minority in half America's biggest cities -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/1/01 12:06:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i think the whites should be given their own homelands. reservations if you will. crime will probably go down and you can open casinos. or beg or something. We are adding this post to your permeant FBI file with a copy to the Home Secretary.:) THEM oh yeah, dad said you'd forwarded it- but i had copied him on it already. US A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Behold There is a Dead Horse..
-Caveat Lector- Dale I will try to check this out; if you want some fun today, get into a search engine and go after Jason Society.. Phineas Priests were also a brotherhood in the Manhattan Projectselect few, and the answer to a lot of things you find at Spandau and in diary of Albert Speer including mention of a bible watchword code and calendar. Look for race to Mars now for everything old, is new again..guess we need the race to keep people on their toes - but it is obvious to me anyway, who sabotaged the space program. Read Acts 19 sometimes and consider certain concordances call this acts of sabotage.even unto the bookburning and the Huntress Diana - linked to her death also.why? Consider little John John died during big Moon Shot Celebration and Teddy was almost murdered too on that bridge.we are dealing with prinipalities and powerslittle John John never did anything to do that. So when I get back later will do some checking...my brother in law was THOR Chief...Joint Chief of Staff and had worked with Vandenberg before he died so young .. communists have tried to halt our space program using Civil Rights and sabotage. So Remember the Apollo and the Challenger and the Russian trawlers taking off minutes before the Challenger blew.Shadrach, Meschenk and Abenego. John Glenn knows what happened; without a doubt and they even stole his golden medals for maybe he flew too near the sun like an Icaras - yellow birds. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Whites a minority in half America's biggest cities
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Whites a minority in half America's biggest cities -Caveat Lector- Just keep these black homosexuals out of the boy scouts, for one out of three male homosexuals has AIDS. show me the stats to back this up or admit you are a racist. i dare you. i double dare you. and thrice i dare you to start backing up your claims. like the ones in Wichita who murdered 5 whites, one was to be a priest and a lady who was a cellosit ok- show me the news clipping to verify this one too. high type people murdered and egged on by Jesse Jackson. show me transcript of when he said this- give me a quote, babes. Remember Jesse told the story of spitting in white people's food show me the quote again ; nice thought blacks with AIDS sptting about? *no-one* has caught HIV from spitting. ever. but i will stand corrected if you can show such an instance. So they say London Bridge is really falling down clipping please ; now remember some of the Aids infested blood Clinton sold to Canada when exactley was that? it eludes me at the moment so could you post a reference where i might read about it? , also went to England.and to Scotland.and who knows where all it went. really? that is most awful- perhaps you could refresh my memory? Surely inasmuch as the Jehovovah Witnesses don't you mean mormons? or was that just one of howard's ideas? anyway- knew this blood was polluted show me how they knew- or at least where they claim to know long before name of AIDS came up one can only conclude that Clinton knew the blood he sold woudl be fatal him and all the other arsehole gvernments that done it too. apparently. don't call stupid evil. there is more stupidity in the world than there is evil. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Whites a minority in half America's biggest cities
-Caveat Lector- Now c., I am on my way to the lake .anything you want to disprove, do it. Am I a racist? Well if preferring to be with my own kind, sending my children an my grandson to white schools, not mixing pedigrees with blacks - if that makes me a racist, then I guess I am a racist. Have never made a secret of the fact that I am a segregationist by choice; you want to move to South Africa - go, and see what the Rhodes Round Table left to black Africa who lives like paupers while their treasures are in the Tower of London on display - the Crown Jewells? Africa was dying back in 1973 and the only man I knew who ever cared was Dale Reusch, Grand Dragon of the KKK in Ohio whom I had called to give hell because someone wrecked my house. Well it was not the KKK-it was police who broke in when I was in hospital. Dale gave me a book Who Is Murdering Africa - my they have been a long time a dying, right? So a great man once wrote - tell me did the Rhodes Roundtable leave anything of value in South Africa other than a few white farmers who have been slaughtered who put food on their table? You disprove what I say bucko...now have a nice day, and I am off until late. Your petticoat is showing cand it ain't red white and blue..lavendar blue no doubt. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Use Some Common Sense, Please
-Caveat Lector- Recently, someone sent the list a post on how to make a hydrogen bomb. I'm not comfortable with that kind of stuff floating into my mail box through my personal e-mail address. Call it paranoia...but do recognize it as rational paranoia in this case. --- Cathy Laughlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes. I agree. There are too many Americans hiding H bombs under their bedsno need to encourage such activity. I am sure that because of that evil H bomb post, many more Americans have increased their nuclear stockpile. Before you know it some irresponsible individual will post instructions on making an ICBM, then we will all be in trouble. flw A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OH HAPPY DAY - Freeh to Wave Goodbye
-Caveat Lector- Would you buy a used car from that guy? Had KGB sitting in his department for 16 years and yet was thrilled to have lunch with golly gee, a real live KGB agent when he broke bread with them in Russia? That guy admired the KGB so much he began to run the FBI like a combo of the Mossad an KGB - remember Chechnya and the little 14 year old boy refused treatement and as public example when he got gangrene they then gave him medical treatment, amputated his legs and put on display??? Wonder also if Freeh hired that Japanese shrpshooter to kill the little 8th grader and his dog, and then his mother - he missed the baby he was holding, but 3 out of 4 isn't bad is itwonder he he got a medal for that one. Goodbye Freeh - and good riddance. Saba FBI Director Louis Freeh. FBI Director Freeh to retire next month Senior agency officials told of decision at meeting Tuesday, sources tell NBC MSNBC STAFF AND WIRE REPORTS FBI Director Louis Freeh plans to retire in June after eight years as the head of the federal investigative agency, sources told NBC on Tuesday. FREEH, A FORMER federal judge who was appointed as director by President Clinton in 1993 after the resignation of William Sessions, informed senior agency officials of his decision at a meeting Tuesday morning, the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told NBC's Pete Williams. A public announcement was expected shortly. Advertisement The sources said Freeh does not have another job lined up and would wait until he steps down to seek employment. Freeh oversaw a significant shift in the agency's crime-fighting mission during his tenure, changing its priorities from domestic organized crime to international concerns such as terrorism and technological crime. Check back for updates on this developing story. Bush to unveil missile shield plan FBI Director Freeh to retire next month More U.S. areas flunk smog test WashPost: Troubled Osprey wounds the Marines Philippine leader fends off coups MSNBC Cover Page MSNBC VIEWER'S TOP 10 Would you recommend this story to other viewers? not at all 1- 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 highly MSNBC is optimized for Microsoft Internet Explorer Windows Media Player MSNBC Terms, Conditions and Privacy © 2001 Cover | News | Business | Sports | Local News | Health | Technology | Living Travel TV News | Opinions | Weather | ComicsInformation Center | Help | News Tools | Write Us | Terms Conditions Privacy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] OH HAPPY DAY - Freeh to Wave Goodbye
-Caveat Lector- My correction - Freeh was not Director during the Ruby Ridge affair - he merely continued the policy..and declared illegal war on Waco. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Congressman arrested for protesting Navy island bombing
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Vieques-Congressman.html WASHINGTON (AP) -- Rep. Luis Gutierrez left federal prison Tuesday, three days after his arrest for trespassing during U.S. Navy bombing exercises on the Puerto Rican island of Vieques. The Illinois Democrat posted the required $900 of his $3,000 bail and was released from a federal detention center outside San Juan. He was expected to be back in Chicago by evening, said Gutierrez spokesman Billy Weinberg. More than 160 protesters have been arrested since Friday, when the Navy resumed bombing exercises on the island. They face charges of trespassing on federal property. Among the first released Monday were high-profile protesters, including environmental lawyer Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Mexican-American actor Edward James Olmos, New York labor leader Dennis Rivera and Puerto Rico opposition Sen. Norma Burgos. Gutierrez was the last of the protesters to appear before a federal magistrate Monday night, Weinberg said. Since he was processed after the court clerk's office had closed, Gutierrez and about two dozen others were not able to post bail, Weinberg said. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Use Some Common Sense, Please
-Caveat Lector- Hey, flw, if you get those ICBM instructions off-list, PLEASE send me a copy. I need a new hobby, and building my own nuclear arsenal sounds like just the ticket! Tenorlove --- flw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Before you know it some irresponsible individual will post instructions on making an ICBM, then we will all be in trouble. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: Jacob Sullum On How many Peruvians does it take to kill a baby?]
Jacob Sullum May 1, 2001 Shoot First http://www.townhall.com/columnists/jacobsullum/js20010501.shtml How many Peruvians does it take to kill a baby? About four, apparently, if they have a fighter jet and the help of a U.S. surveillance plane. If you think that's a sick joke, you're right. But the joke is on us. No matter how hard U.S. officials try to obscure the fact, the Peruvian A-37 that shot down a single-engine plane carrying two missionaries and their children was doing America's bidding. That's not to say that our government wanted to kill Veronica Bowers or her 7-month-old daughter. Indeed, tapes of the incident are said to show that the American surveillance team repeatedly warned the Peruvian Air Force that the plane it was preparing to attack might not be carrying drug smugglers. The Peruvians presumably were not gunning for missionaries either. They simply acted precipitously, based on incomplete and erroneous information, and innocent civilians died as a result. That sort of thing happens in war. Still, there's no denying that this war is directed by the United States, which supports ruthless action against drug traffickers and should not be surprised when its allies get reckless. The killing of Bowers and her daughter was not intended, but something like it was perfectly foreseeable. There was a time when the U.S. government actually opposed firing on civilian aircraft. Federal law, in compliance with international agreements, prohibited attempts to damage or destroy civil aircraft in flight; it also made assisting such attempts a crime... snip ** Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per week) Matthew Gaylor, 2175 Bayfield Drive, Columbus, OH 43229 (614) 313-5722 ICQ: 106212065 Archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fa/ **
[CTRL] [Fwd: May 9th Set For ET Contact Disclosure]
- SNETNEWS Mailing List May 9th Set For ET Contact Disclosure USA - Washington, DC. - The Center For The Study Of Extraterrestrial Intelligence (CSETI) announced this week that the long awaited public disclosure of concrete evidence and proof regarding extraterrestrial intelligence, UFOs and covert government projects related to the subject will be held on May 9th. The Press Conference for this disclosure event is scheduled for 9 a.m. at the National Press Club in Washington, DC Since August of 2000, the CSETI Disclosure Project has recorded the testimony of over 100 military, government and related witnesses to UFO events and projects from around the world. This testimony includes dozens of first-hand, often top-secret witnesses to UFO events, internal UFO-related government projects and covert government activities related to UFOs, Extraterrestrial Intelligence and exotic energy and propulsion system projects. These 100 witnesses constitute the tip of a larger pool of over 400 prospective witnesses from a dozen countries, many of whom are prepared to come forward initially in formal Congressional hearings -- which organizers hope will result from the upcoming planned disclosure event. CSETI staff are now conducting private briefings for key leaders in society, government and related institutions in preparation for the disclosure event. They have found that during previous briefings at the Pentagon and with senior congressional leaders and Executive Branch staff, this civilian effort to disclose this matter has been repeatedly green-lighted and even encouraged. Dr. Steven Greer, director of CSETI, has led research teams throughout the world investigating the existence of ETI, and on several occasions has successfully established preliminary contact and communication with extraterrestrial spacecraft at close range. He has met with and provided briefings for senior members of government, military and intelligence operations in the United States and around the world. These have included senior CIA officials, Joint Chiefs of Staff, White House staff, senior members of Congress and congressional committees, senior United Nations leadership and diplomats, senior military officials in the United Kingdom and Europe, and cabinet-level staff members of the Japanese government. The disclosure press conference comes on the heels of an April 23 ABC News Report by Peter Jennings, in which he very seriously introduced a story on Making Contact With Alien Life by asking what would we do if we were contacted by aliens and who would represent us. (For more information: CSETI: http://www.cseti.org ) The Truth Is Somewhere... - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?b1ddDh.b18SeS Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01 ==^
Re: [CTRL] Whites a minority in half America's biggest cities
-Caveat Lector- On 1 May 01, at 13:19, Aleisha Saba wrote: Am I a racist? Well if preferring to be with my own kind, sending my children an my grandson to white schools, not mixing pedigrees with blacks - if that makes me a racist, then I guess I am a racist. I think you are turning CTRL into a joke. You need professional help IMO, but apparently many others here like what you say. I think most of your posts are disgusting and wish you would just keep your problems to yourself. Just think of the young people that you might be influencing. Your statements are disgusting and have no place on a conspiracy list. Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Cheney says energy plan must aim for 'efficiency, not austerity'
-Caveat Lector- On 1 May 01, at 10:34, Bill Howard wrote: Sounds like a good business strategy to me. Oh, yes. But it is very bad for the environment, and human beings. That does not matter much to business, and it's cheerleaders. Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Whites a minority in half America's biggest cities
From: c. show me the stats to back this up or admit you are a racist. i dare you. idouble dare you. and thrice i dare you to start backing up your claims. Don't hold your breath waiting for actual DOCUMENTATION from Saba... *no-one* has caught HIV from spitting. ever. but i will stand corrected ifyou can show such an instance. Very unlikely that she can. The AIDS virus can't be spread in such a manner, as it dies in a short time after being exposed to light and air. It only remains viable within the body, or when passed directly from one body to another. You can't catch AIDS from someone spitting in food, altho there is a remote possibility to get it from someone directly spitting on you...likewise you won't catch AIDS from a toiletseat (altho there are any number of other nasties you may get...)June _Bravenet IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: [CTRL] Whites a minority in half America's biggest cities
From: Aleisha Saba Now c., I am on my way to the lake ... Hopefully to go jump in it...? ;-) June _Bravenet IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
[CTRL] Rosie vs. Reality: What every woman must know (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2001/april/rs_rosie_reality.htm From Capitalism Magazine. Too complex to copy into e-mail. Please click the link. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Sham marriage immigration loophole a health threat to Americans (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- For an immigration time-out: http://www.projectusa.org/ New York Sham marriage immigration loophole a health threat to Americans Issue 72: April 30, 2001 +== TIME OUT PROJECT ==+ A loophole in immigration law -- set to expire today -- has illegal immigrants lining up in the streets of Manhattan to take advantage of it. The loophole -- known as 245i -- allows an illegal alien to remain in the United States legally if he or she can find a legal sponsor -- such as a spouse -- and can afford to pay a fine plus lawyers' fees. The process, unsurprisingly, is racked by fraud (check out a note found posted in an East Village record store: http://projectusa.org/immigration_fraud.html ). This fraud is, to be sure, a serious problem, but there is another problem that should also be recognized. The sham marriage loophole is a health threat to American citizens. When a citizen of a foreign country immigrates legally to the United States, he or she must first undergo a rigorous screening process through the American consulate in that country. This process screens for things like a criminal or terrorist background or the presence of any infectious diseases. Our country has had this prudent policy in place for over a century, and most other countries also take this necessary precaution. However, when someone enters America illegally, this process is circumvented. Thus, because of the high rate of illegal immigration to the United States, we are witnessing outbreaks of diseases that are normally not seen here -- such as tuberculosis (TB). Dan Stein of the Federation for American Immigration Reform points out that the 245i loophole removes an important step in the enforcement of U.S. immigration law. With the loophole, illegal immigrants do not have to return to their home countries and follow the same rules as everyone else to become legal immigrants. More reading: Immigration's Impact on The Size and Growth of The Population Lacking Health Insurance http://www.cis..org/articles/2000/coverage/introduction.html U.S. Increases Screening of Immigrants for Tuberculosis, by Susan Sachs, New York Times, January 3, 2000: Both the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the American Medical Association said recently that the key to eliminating TB in the United States is eliminating it in the foreign-born population. +== TAKE POSITIVE ACTION ==+ As long as the American government refuses to enforce simple and reasonable immigration laws and safeguards, illegal immigration will continue at its present and extremely high levels, and Americans will continue to be at aggravated health risk. But, New York Senator Hillary Clinton is co-sponsoring a bill that would actually extend the 245i loophole. We are surprised that Senator Clinton, who has often expressed her concern for the health of American children, seems to be overlooking the health threat posed to Americans by this bill. On the Senator's website, no mention is made of this threat. But we found this on the homepage: Si usted es extranjero, puede tener derecho a solicitar status de immigrante legal sin tener que regresar a su pais de origen. (If you are a foreign national, you may be eligible to apply for legal immigrant status without returning to your home country.) We called Senator Clinton's office in Manhattan, and were told by staffer Gil (who refused to give his last name) that medical screening of those taking advantage of the loophole would be required at a later date when the visa came through from the sending country. But, according to Gil, these visas take years to come through and, in some cases, can take up to 23 years. According to the Centers for Disease Control, TB can be communicated when an infected person coughs or sneezes near an uninfected person. (This can happen at any time during the 23 years an unscreened but infected immigrant is waiting for his or her visa to come through.) We hope Senator Clinton recognizes that the sham marriage loophole: 1) rewards illegal behavior and is therefore unacceptable, 2) is unfair to those immigrants who play by the rules and enter our country legally, and 3) is a health threat to American citizens (and their children). Senator Hillary Clinton Email: http://clinton.senate.gov/email_form.html (202) 224-4451 (212) 688-6262 +== QUOTE OF THE WEEK ==+ Manhattan's streets I saunter'd, pondering, On time, space, reality -- on such as these, and abreast with them, prudence. Walt Whitman (Leaves of Grass) +==EMAIL OF THE WEEK==+ I LIVE IN ARIZONA IN THE PHOENIX METRO AREA. WE ARE BEING OVERRUN WITH PEOPLE COMING ACROSS OUR SOUTHERN BORDER AT A RATE WHICH CANNOT EVEN BE CALCULATED. IT IS UP TO OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO GUARD OUR BORDERS AND THEY ARE FAILING MISERABLY. WE HAVE GOT TO DO SOMETHING! Dianne Valenzuela Glendale, Arizona +== E-ZINE STAFF ==+ Editor: Brenda Walker Head writer: Craig Nelsen Contributing writer: Allison Solin +== ADD
[CTRL] Docs Target Kids
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=22632 Tuesday, May 1, 2001 Forcing doctors to ask kids about guns Pending bill requires pediatricians to query patients on state program By Julie Foster © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com The high cost of a controversial bill in the California State Senate that would require pediatricians, in thousands of health screenings per year, to question kids on family gun ownership landed the measure yesterday in what is euphemistically called the bone yard of the state legislature, giving it one more hurdle to clear before heading to the full Senate. Californians balked last year when Assemblyman Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento, proposed a substantially similar bill to Senate Bill 765 by Sen. Wesley Chesbro, D-Santa Rosa. Sent to the suspense file in the Senate Appropriations Committee yesterday, SB 765 resurrects a concept eventually removed from the vetoed Steinberg bill -- codification of the American Academy of Pediatrics publication Recommendations for preventive pediatric health care. That report specifically includes recommendations made in the AAP's 1999 publication, The Role of the Pediatrician in Youth Violence Prevention in Clinical Practice, which outlines measures to be taken by pediatricians in violence prevention, including advocacy of gun-control proposals. Since the bill incurs an estimated annual cost of $8.6 million, it was automatically sent to the suspense file, as are all bills proposing costs of $150,000 or more. According to the AAP, the violence-prevention publication establishes an agenda for making this a routine part of pediatric practice in four major areas: clinical services, community advocacy, research and education. This broad agenda builds on a still-evolving body of knowledge, but the urgency of youth violence prevention requires further and immediate action by pediatricians. Because many pediatricians encounter children and youth who are experiencing or are at risk for violence, pediatricians are well situated to intervene, states the document. Prevention of youth violence requires that pediatricians recognize violence-related risk factors and diagnose and treat violence-related problems at all stages of child development. Among the screening criteria listed in the report to identify risk factors for violence among their patients are: family stresses that could lead to violence (e.g., unemployment, divorce or death); appropriate supervision and care and support systems (e.g., child care arrangements, the family and social network); disciplinary attitudes and practices of the parents or caregivers (particularly about corporal punishment and physical/emotional abuse); exposure to violence in the home (domestic violence or child abuse), school or community; degree of exposure to media violence; access to firearms (especially handguns) in their or a neighbor's home, or the community. The Chesbro bill is intended to allay the concerns of the federal Health Care Financing Administration, according to the assemblyman's staff. Currently, some participants in the state's health-care program, Medi-Cal, are treated according to the AAP guidelines, but others are not. The agency sent a letter saying treatment for Medi-Cal beneficiaries should be the same across the board. Such a change would result in 248,000 more health screens for children ages 0-12, and 17,000 more for children ages 13-20, who use the state's low-income health-care program, staff said. While acknowledging the importance of health care and safety for children, a public-policy group believes the bill sets a dangerous precedent. SB 765 requires the AAP recommendations to be used when setting state health-care standards and that those standards shall be updated as necessary to be consistent with any changes made by the American Academy of Pediatrics. It asks state legislators to abdicate their right to set state policy, said Karen Holgate of Capitol Resource Institute. According to the bill, the AAP recommendations would be included only after review by the state board that approves the health standards. While the [violence-prevention recommendations] may be legitimate areas of concern, one wonders about the appropriateness of requiring all pediatricians to grill their patients about their homes and families without due cause, Holgate continued. The AAP report begins by stating, Each child and family is unique; therefore, these Recommendations for Preventive Pediatric Health Care are designed for the care of children who are receiving competent parenting, have no manifestations of any important health problems, and are growing and developing in satisfactory fashion. Additional visits may become necessary if circumstances suggest variations from normal. Consistent with its health-screening requirements referred to by the Chesbro bill, the AAP also includes a sweeping
[CTRL] Fwd: ON-THE-RECORD BRIEFING ON PATTERNS OF GLOBAL TERRORISM: 2000 RE PORT
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE Office of the Spokesman For Immediate Release April 30, 2001 ON-THE-RECORD BRIEFING BY ACTING COORDINATOR FOR COUNTERTERRORISM EDMUND J. HULL ON PATTERNS OF GLOBAL TERRORISM: 2000 REPORT Washington, D.C. MR. REEKER: As advertised, we now have our Acting Coordinator for Counterterrorism Edmund J. Hull here to take your questions. He may have some additional comments. So we will turn it straight over to Mr. Hull. Thanks. MR. HULL: I would like to make a few comments. First, I would like to thank Secretary Powell for kicking off this year's Patterns of Global Terrorism, as well as Deputy Secretary Armitage and Under Secretary Marc Grossman. It is strong support from our 7th floor that makes my job a lot easier. Secondly, I would like to point out that although this report details a lot of successes, and it is coming out of the US State Department, these successes by no means are the exclusive responsibility of the State Department. We have very strong partners throughout the US Government, including in the White House, Justice, the FBI, CIA, DOD, Joint Chiefs of Staff, Department of Treasury, and really one of the great strengths of counterterrorism, as it is done by the US Government, is this interagency cooperation and teamwork. Without that, we would not have the kinds of successes that we can report to you today. Finally, I would like to say a word of thanks to my staff and our partners around the building and in other agencies that work so hard on this report, pulling it together and making it available to you, and we hope that it is useful to you as you go about your coverage of this important subject. I would be happy to take questions. QUESTION:You have some critics of the report who say there are some countries, such as Cuba and North Korea, which are on the list, and countries not on the list that should be there, Pakistan among them. And what is your response? MR. HULL: I think we can go down that case by case. I would be happy to do that. You mentioned Cuba. Cuba does remain on the list of state sponsors. Our problems with Cuba relate to its continuing provision of safe haven to wanted terrorists. This is a very important point for us because one of the principles of our counterterrorism policy is we will pursue terrorists for their crimes as long as it takes. We have a very long memory and we have as long an arm as possible. So that is an important point for us with Cuba. They also have some associations with terrorist groups, like the ELN and the FARC in Colombia. Then finally I would point out that Cuba's position on terrorism is just very equivocal. In the Ibero-American conference that took place last fall, Cuba was the only country participating that declined to join a consensus in condemning the ETA and the upsurge of terrorism in Spain, and that, quite frankly, is not a position that is helpful in terms of the international counterterrorism effort. QUESTION:Can you tell us if you are likely to take measures against the Real IRA and (inaudible) IRA in the near future? And secondly, can I ask you if you have any evidence that since the Good Friday Agreement, the provisional IRA has bought weapons in the US? MR. HULL: I would like to answer the question on designations, really not only in terms of the Real IRA, but also a number of other speculations that exist. We have a designation process and, by virtue of that, we keep under close watch any number of organizations that are accused of engaging in terrorism. And that is a continuing undertaking. We designate Foreign Terrorist Organizations according to a law. It is a very, very rigorous process. It requires a legal basis, because they can be challenged in court. Now, we have recently moved away from a set schedule for those designations to rolling designations whenever we believe the case is made and we go forward on that basis. We did it last fall with the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan. We will proceed with other organizations when and if they meet the requirements of the law. QUESTION:There was some recent reporting out of Tehran during the summit that there is a new agreement or working relationship between Hamas and Hezbollah against Israel. Can you tell us, how accurate is this, and what are the ramifications if it is accurate? MR. HULL: What we have seen in the Middle East over the recent period is continuing very high involvement by Iran in promoting terrorism against the Middle East peace. This is a longstanding activity by the Iranian Government. They have used as their surrogates in this, not only the organizations that you have mentioned -- Hamas, Hezbollah -- but also the Palestinian Islamic Jihad. I believe it is clear that Iran is encouraging these organizations to act individually and to act in concert. QUESTION:And how big a threat is this renewed
[CTRL] New Flashlight Sees Thru Doors
http://unisci.com/stories/20012/0416015.htm New Flashlight Sees Through Doors As Well As Windows Police officers serving a warrant or searching for a suspect hiding inside a building could soon have a new tool for protecting themselves and finding the "bad guy." A prototype device called the RADAR Flashlight, developed at the Georgia Tech Research Institute (GTRI), can detect a human's presence through doors and walls up to 8 inches thick. The device uses a narrow 16-degree radar beam and specialized signal processor to discern respiration and/or movement up to three meters behind a wall. The device can penetrate even heavy clothing to detect respiration and movements of as little as a few millimeters. "We believe the RADAR Flashlight potentially will be useful to police officers in ambush situations," says Gene Greneker, the GTRI principal research scientist who led the development of the device. " It is a force multiplier and a safety enhancement tool." The RADAR Flashlight is undergoing further modification and testing for the next six months. The Georgia Institute of Technology has filed a provisional patent for the device, which could become commercially available to law enforcement officials within a couple of years if the university licenses the technology to a manufacturer. With funding in 1998 from the National Institute of Justice (NIJ), a division of the U.S. Justice Department, Greneker and his team took the RADAR Flashlight from a bulky three-part prototype to a self-contained unit that weighs about 7 pounds. The NIJ tested the device last year at the National Law Enforcement Corrections Technology Center in Charleston, S.C., and suggested further modifications. Work on those changes is expected to begin this spring with additional funding from the NIJ. "We will be modifying the RADAR Flashlight based on what law enforcement officials told us from the tests," Greneker says. "For one thing, they said it makes too much noise when it locks onto a wall (to scan). Also, for use by SWAT teams, the RADAR Flashlight needs to be operated by remote control. So we plan to put the RADAR Flashlight on a tripod at least 25 feet away from a wall and steer it by remote control to the part of the wall we're interested in scanning." When these modifications are complete, the RADAR Flashlight will undergo more rigorous testing in various environmental conditions. In its current form, the RADAR Flashlight operates in the following manner: The user holds the device with a pistol-grip handle, pulls a trigger, and the device runs a 3-second self-test to verify that it is properly functioning. The user sees the results as a bar graph on a small LED display built into the device. Then the user presses the device against a wall, pulls the trigger, and within 3 seconds the system automatically spaces itself from the wall at a distance designed for best performance. The RADAR Flashlight's narrow radar beam sends out a pulse of electromagnetic energy, then detects the return signal, which is read by high-speed signal processing technology that quickly delivers bar-graph results to the user's display. As the person on the other side of the wall breathes, the bar-graph display rises and falls with a rhythmic response. Research that evolved into the RADAR Flashlight began at GTRI in the mid-1980s with the patenting of a frequency-modulated radar for remotely checking vital signs of soldiers wounded on the battlefield before risking medics' lives to save the injured. This early technology also was tested for its ability to monitor vital signs of soldiers clothed in chemical or biological warfare suits, without requiring them to risk contamination by removing the protective gear. Today, a technical challenge remains for researchers working on the RADAR Flashlight. "We have one problem," Greneker says. "This instrument is so sensitive to motion that if you don't hold it still enough, it will detect its own self-motion. If we can overcome this, it would be the Holy Grail, and interestingly enough, we think we know how to solve this problem with additional research." Bill Deck of the National Law Enforcement Corrections Technology Center cited the RADAR Flashlight's stability and LED display as key issues to target before the device is commercialized. "The RADAR Flashlight has some potential," Deck said. "There is some interest from police departments. They gave us about 25 scenarios in which the device could be useful. For example, when an officer goes to serve a warrant, it could let him know that someone is standing behind the door, maybe waiting to ambush him." Greneker says he is encouraged by interest from police departments and hopes the RADAR Flashlight will be commercialized soon. "Our target sales price is $1,000 to $1,500 per device," Greneker says. "That price range is important to police departments because they usually don't have a lot of money to spend." Meanwhile, other
Re: [CTRL] New Flashlight Sees Thru Doors
-Caveat Lector- Old news. See: http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/17.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] IMF's 4 Steps To Damnation
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4177445,00.html IMF's four steps to damnation How crises, failures, and suffering finally drove a Presidential adviser to the wrong side of the barricades Gregory Palast ObserverSunday April 29, 2001 It was like a scene out of Le Carré: the brilliant agent comes in from the cold and, in hours of debriefing, empties his memory of horrors committed in the name of an ideology gone rotten. But this was a far bigger catch than some used-up Cold War spy. The former apparatchik was Joseph Stiglitz, ex-chief economist of the World Bank. The new world economic order was his theory come to life. He was in Washington for the big confab of the World Bank and International Monetary Fund. But instead of chairing meetings of ministers and central bankers, he was outside the police cordons. The World Bank fired Stiglitz two years ago. He was not allowed a quiet retirement: he was excommunicated purely for expressing mild dissent from globalisation World Bank-style. Here in Washington we conducted exclusive interviews with Stiglitz, for The Observer and Newsnight, about the inside workings of the IMF, the World Bank, and the bank's 51% owner, the US Treasury. And here, from sources unnamable (not Stiglitz), we obtained a cache of documents marked, 'confidential' and 'restricted'. Stiglitz helped translate one, a 'country assistance strategy'. There's an assistance strategy for every poorer nation, designed, says the World Bank, after careful in-country investigation. But according to insider Stiglitz, the Bank's 'investigation' involves little more than close inspection of five-star hotels. It concludes with a meeting with a begging finance minister, who is handed a 'restructuring agreement' pre-drafted for 'voluntary' signature. Each nation's economy is analysed, says Stiglitz, then the Bank hands every minister the same four-step programme. Step One is privatisation. Stiglitz said that rather than objecting to the sell-offs of state industries, some politicians - using the World Bank's demands to silence local critics - happily flogged their electricity and water companies. 'You could see their eyes widen' at the possibility of commissions for shaving a few billion off the sale price. And the US government knew it, charges Stiglitz, at least in the case of the biggest privatisation of all, the 1995 Russian sell-off. 'The US Treasury view was: "This was great, as we wanted Yeltsin re-elected. We DON'T CARE if it's a corrupt election." ' Stiglitz cannot simply be dismissed as a conspiracy nutter. The man was inside the game - a member of Bill Clinton's cabinet, chairman of the President's council of economic advisers. Most sick-making for Stiglitz is that the US-backed oligarchs stripped Russia's industrial assets, with the effect that national output was cut nearly in half. After privatisation, Step Two is capital market liberalisation. In theory this allows investment capital to flow in and out. Unfortunately, as in Indonesia and Brazil, the money often simply flows out. Stiglitz calls this the 'hot money' cycle. Cash comes in for speculation in real estate and currency, then flees at the first whiff of trouble. A nation's reserves can drain in days. And when that happens, to seduce speculators into returning a nation's own capital funds, the IMF demands these nations raise interest rates to 30%, 50% and 80%. 'The result was predictable,' said Stiglitz. Higher interest rates demolish property values, savage industrial production and drain national treasuries. At this point, according to Stiglitz, the IMF drags the gasping nation to Step Three: market-based pricing - a fancy term for raising prices on food, water and cooking gas. This leads, predictably, to Step-Three-and-a-Half: what Stiglitz calls 'the IMF riot'. The IMF riot is painfully predictable. When a nation is, 'down and out, [the IMF] squeezes the last drop of blood out of them. They turn up the heat until, finally, the whole cauldron blows up,' - as when the IMF eliminated food and fuel subsidies for the poor in Indonesia in 1998. Indonesia exploded into riots. There are other examples - the Bolivian riots over water prices last year and, this February, the riots in Ecuador over the rise in cooking gas prices imposed by the World Bank. You'd almost believe the riot was expected. And it is. What Stiglitz did not know is that Newsnight obtained several documents from inside the World Bank. In one, last year's Interim Country Assistance Strategy for Ecuador, the Bank several times suggests - with cold accuracy - that the plans could be expected to spark 'social unrest'. That's not surprising. The secret report notes that the plan to make the US dollar Ecuador's currency has pushed 51% of the population below the poverty line. The IMF riots (and by riots I mean peaceful demonstrations dispersed by bullets, tanks and
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-Caveat Lector- Hello, As a follow up to my recent postings on Constitutional powers go to my web site: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Forwarded mail....
-Caveat Lector- visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 19:09:16 -0400 (EDT) From: William Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The search network [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Against Constitutional terrorists [EMAIL PROTECTED] correction http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/patriot.html visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] McVeigh's Lawyer Says Bombing Was Conspiracy
-Caveat Lector- PW Daily for Booksellers (May 1, 2001) In Revised Book, McVeigh's Lawyer Says Bombing Was Conspiracy On May 9, just days before the scheduled execution of Timothy McVeigh, PublicAffairs is releasing a trade paperback version of Others Unknown: Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City Bombing Conspiracy by Stephen Jones and Peter Israel ($15; 1586480987). Jones was McVeigh's lawyer in his trial for the 1995 bombing of the Murrah Office Building in Oklahoma City. Israel is a writer, editor and former publisher. This complete revision of the 1998 hardcover includes material that Jones couldn't include before--until McVeigh effectively waived attorney-client privilege. Thus, for the first time, Jones tells of his investigation of the case and alleges that based on what he learned as McVeigh's counsel, the bombing was a conspiracy and McVeigh was not its mastermind. McVeigh has claimed full responsibility for the bombing. I'm not trying to say he was innocent, Jones said. He has exaggerated his guilt to protect others. He played a role, but he was a foot soldier, a mule, not the general. Jones reports in detail what McVeigh told him as the case progressed; explains why McVeigh did not plead guilty; makes a case for McVeigh's role in the conspiracy; and demonstrates how McVeigh obstructed his own defense. Jones is donating his net proceeds from this paperback edition to a non-profit or charitable organization. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The 100 Days
http://www.thedailybrew.com/ Staying the Course April 29, 2001 Ahh, the arbitrary 100 day mark. How's Bush doing? Hard to tell. With the exception of stepping all over his feet anytime he gets in front of a camera, he doesn't seem to be doing much. As promised, Bush has subcontracted out all of the real work of the White House to other, more competent, men. And maybe that's the point. When Clinton came into office, the right promised us doom, disaster and despair. As Clinton's 1993 budget passed without a single Republican vote, up and down the aisle the GOP leadership predicted a total economic collapse, with the loss of millions of jobs. Then a funny thing happened. The Clinton economic blueprint worked. Interest rates and unemployment fell. Shortly thereafter, a whole host of social ills that are rooted primarily in economics began to improve. Crime rates fell. Out of wedlock births fell. Home ownership rates rose. Record deficits turned into record surpluses. Prosperity blossomed. In the face of all this good news, the right had to change tactics; and they did. Instead of predicting that Clintonomics would destroy America, they retreated to the claim that the President was irrelevant. Sure, times were good, but Bill Clinton, (and his economic plan they had derided), deserved none of the credit. The right claimed that the record economic expansion of the 1990's occurred in spite of, not because of, Clinton. Or even less plausibly, that it was Reagan who deserved the credit. The good times were so persistent and long lived that the right was forced to keep on making this claim right up until the day they stole the White House. So now, having lectured for years that the President doesn't matter, the right has installed a man who could not be more well suited to prove their point. And give Bush credit, he appears to be staying the course. Bush's role isn't so much as leader of the free world, but rather as its figurehead. It is the same role he played as the General Manager of the Texas Rangers. But while Bush could pull off being the front man for a baseball team, no one, including Bush himself, even pretends that Bush is up to the job of the Presidency. To be fair, no one has ever claimed otherwise. While Bush spent much of last year pretending to be a "compassionate conservative" or a "reformer with results", Bush never claimed to have any deep understanding, or even interest in, public or foreign policy. Bush comes as advertised; ignorant of the nuances of complex policy questions and world affairs, and willing to rely on the advice of others to set his agenda. The problems came when the White House quickly made a series of blunders inflaming the left already sensitized by the theft of the White House. But since it is almost a certainty that those decisions were made not by Bush, but rather by his political and policy teams, it would be plainly unfair to ask Bush to answer hard questions about policies he did not craft and he does not understand. It should therefore be no surprise that the White House quickly canceled formal press conferences, preferring scripted affairs which only allow Bush to read prepared remarks from the teleprompter. But you can't keep the President hidden forever, so this week, right at the tail end of the "100 day Presidential evaluation period" Bush went on the "Good Morning America" show. Whether out of ignorance or sloth, he promptly changed a thirty year policy of ambiguity on America's commitment to defend Taiwan. But that's OK, because the President doesn't matter. The GOP told us so. Dick Cheney and the rest of the White House spin team quickly lined up in front of the cameras and solemnly intone that US policy hasn't changed. The subliminable message seems to be: "Don't pay any attention to anything the President says, he doesn't matter." For our sake, let's hope they are right.
[CTRL] Fwd: Forgotten History - Weapons of Mass Destruction - 05/01/2001
Please see our other Daily Email lists at www.millenniumarchangels.com/millenniummail PRE--- Sponsor's Message -- Need Tech Help? Fret no more. Get quick answers on our QA tech forum! A HREF= http://click.topica.com/c4NbUrC9dbVvhfMa/rebootmypc http://click.topica.com/c4NbUrC9dbVvhfMa/rebootmypc/A /PRE Weapons of Mass Destruction By Denis Mueller Israel's thirst for the bomb began in the late 1940's. Under the direction of Ernst David Bergmann, Israel began its pro- gram at the Weissman Institute of Science. To do this, Israel would need the help of the West. Right from the start, the United States and France aided Israel. The U.S. trained Is- rael's nuclear scientists who in turn provided the early technology for the bomb's development. But it was France who provided the bulk of assistance. This resulted in the building of the Dimona reactor. In 1964, Dimona became operational and a carefully guarded secret. At first, Israel claimed the Dimona was a textile plant, however, these were just bogus claims. Still, Israel's uranium sources were inadequate to meet the demands of a nuclear weapons in- dustry and successful Israeli commando raids into France and Britain ensured that Israel had the tools to build a bomb. The West turned its back on the raids but Israel knew it needed a steady supply and turned to South Africa for help. During this period Israel and South Africa became close all- ies. South Africa provided Israel with large amounts of in- vestment capital and Israel helped South Africa undermine international economic sanctions. This is all well known by the rest of the world, however, our media steadfastly refus- ed to report Israel's collaborations with the rogue state. In many areas the states were similar so it is natural that these two counties came together. In 1971, the Nixon administration sold Israel the triggering device necessary for sophisticated nuclear weapons. This near- ly came back to haunt the United States when Israel threatened to use nuclear weapons during the Yom Kipper war. In effect, Israel had put the world in nuclear danger and would use its weapons as a form of blackmail on the United States. Francis Perrin, head of the French A-bomb project, certainly felt so and wrote: We thought the Israeli Bomb was aimed at the Amer- icans, not to launch it at the Americans but to say, 'If you don't want to help us in a critical situation we will require you to help us; otherwise we will use our nuclear weapons.' With the help of a comatose American press, Israel was able to successfully hide its sinister program. In 1973, a Libyan civilian airliner was shot down by Israel. The result was the death of 104 innocent. The reason for the attack against the civilians was that the airliner had strayed to close to the Dimona plant. In 1986, London's Sunday Times ran a story that described the Israeli program. An Israeli dissentient, named Mordechai Vanunu who supported Palestinian rights, re- leased the information. For this he was captured in Italy and dragged back to Israel where he was sentenced to 18 years in prison. Vanunu served twelve years of that sentence in soli- tary confinement. Amnesty International condemned the con- finement and it remains the longest solitary confinement in history. Perhaps the most disturbing development is, according to the Sunday Times, a new type of genocidal weapon known as the ethno bomb. Using information obtained from South Africa, Israel scientists are trying to identify a gene that is carr- ied by some Arabs and then use this knowledge against those who only carry a particular gene. Dedi Zucker, a member of the Knesset denounced the research and pointed to its obvious meaning: Morally, based on our history, and our tradition and our experience, such a weapon is monstrous and should be denied. The failure to report this by our press stands as one of the great crimes of history. Sources: The Sunday Times Covert Action, John Steinbeck Liven up your mailbox with Millennium Mail www.millenniumarchangels.com/millenniummail/ Totally FREE software. Just pay shipping! || Click here --- http://www.free-cd-software.com || a href=http://www.free-cd-software.com;AOL Link/a Guardian Angels Watching Over Them Online Child Advocacy Service need volunteers www.millenniumarchangels.com/gawot/ ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrC9d.bVvhfM Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01 ==^
[CTRL] Letter writing agenda for 04-2001 from the JBS
-Caveat Lector- IA Concerted action Letter Writing Compiled for the action portion of the monthly John Birch Society Information and action Meeting. Our Job is to create understanding. letters to the editor, to opinion molders, and to public officials are an important part of our educational efforts. FREQUENTLY USED ADDRESSES AND PHONE NUMBERS: (The president) The White House, Washington, D.C. 20500 202-456- (comments) (Your Senators) Senate office Building, Washington, D.C. 20510 202-224-3121 (Your Representative) House office building, Washington, D.C. 20515 202-224-3121 JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY LETTER WRITING FOR APRIL 2001 1.) OPPOSE S 27, HR 380, and all other so-called Campaign reform bills KEY FACTS: Debate on the McCain Feingold campaign reform bill is underway in the U.S. as we go to press. Why is all that special-interest being offered? The April JBS Bulletin answers:The Basic problem is that our nation has strayed (Pulled? Pushed?) from the strictly limited government specified by the Constitution. The solution is not for Congress to limit our God-Given right of free speech. Rather, Congress needs to limit itself according to the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. Write: Your U.S. Senators in opposition to Campaign Reform infrigement on free speech. Write: Your Representative with the same message. 2.)Support H J Res 27 THE CONSTITUTIONAL WAR POWERS RESOLUTION OF 2001 KEY FACTS: This resolution would repeal the Vietnam era War Powers Resolution that has given Presidents the appearance of legitimacy when they initiate military action without the approval of Congress H J RES 27 would recognize and reaffirm the requirements of the Constitution that only Congress can declare war. Write: Your Congressman, strongly urging his support and co-sponsorship of H J Res 27. Write: Your Senators with the same forceful message. 3.) OPPOSE H J 3 WHICH REPLACES THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE WITH DIRECT VOTING. KEY FACTS: his resolution would destroy what's left of the electoral college. H J Res 3 proposes a constitutional amendment establishing a direct national vote for President For talking points see pages 9, 10 in the February JBS Bulletin and the NEW The New American (TNA) reprint Save the Electoral College Write: Your Congressman and U.S. Senators opposing H J RES 3; make clear your support for the electoral College and your opposition to Federal Meddling in State Election affairs. Write: Your state legislators, urging defense of their legitimate Constitutional electoral powers. 4.) Support HR 1146 THE AMERICAN SOVEREIGNTY RESTORATION ACT OF 2001. KEY FACTS: Congressman Ron Paul has re-introduced HR 1146. As before, this bill would end our membership in the United Nations (UN); the immunity of UN personnel in the U.S.; U.S. funding of UN military actions; US participation IN UNESCO and in all UN environmental programs. Let's work to build increasing support for this powerful GET US OUT! legislation. Write Your Congressman, urging him/her to support and cosponsor HR 1146 To determine the up to date status of the issues above visit: http://www.jbs.org/congress visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Whites a minority in half America's biggest cities
-Caveat Lector- Hi Steve, As someone who believed--when signing up for the CTRL list--that it would provide information, not random hate smears, I agree with you. Yes, we can hit delete--but why should any of us have to stay on alert to delete more than two thirds of the list's messages because they are A.S.'s mindless, hate-soaked filth??? Why don't the list's moderators get rid of this person? Jenny Decker - Original Message - From: Steve Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Whites a minority in half America's biggest cities -Caveat Lector- On 1 May 01, at 13:19, Aleisha Saba wrote: Am I a racist? Well if preferring to be with my own kind, sending my children an my grandson to white schools, not mixing pedigrees with blacks - if that makes me a racist, then I guess I am a racist. I think you are turning CTRL into a joke. You need professional help IMO, but apparently many others here like what you say. I think most of your posts are disgusting and wish you would just keep your problems to yourself. Just think of the young people that you might be influencing. Your statements are disgusting and have no place on a conspiracy list. Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Worst 100 Days
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20010514s=editors EDITORIAL | May 14, 2001 The Worst 100 Days So much for "compassionate conservatism." During his first 100 days, George W. Bush's principal accomplishment, indeed his only one, was to demolish any too-generous illusions about who he is. The mild and moderate character who ran for President, claiming to want more or less the same things Al Gore wanted, has been replaced by a hard-edged, rather maladroit right-winger. Bush brushed aside his own rhetorical flourishes toward bipartisan civility and has engaged in a bare-knuckle (and politically tone-deaf) style of governing that most resembles the notorious theft in the Florida recount operation: Take no prisoners, obliterate the facts and rules of reason, forget the dubious legitimacy upon which this presidency is based. A more likable and personally persuasive leader (think Reagan or Clinton) might have pulled it off. When Bush speaks, one's thoughts drift immediately to whether he will successfully read the words off the card. This President's beginning is not just ugly, it's ominous. That conclusion isn't based only on ideology but on the retrograde mindset of the new Administration. The men in charge--the older guys, his handlers--seem stuck in a time warp. It's as though Cheney, O'Neill, Rumsfeld et al. have missed the past twenty years of politics and evolving public attitudes. Their opacity is potentially dangerous for the country as they try to bull their way forward, and Bush the Younger, we predict, will encounter many more rude surprises. His agenda is out of touch with reality, distant from what the government should be doing to help this society and economy get through the darkening waters ahead. The environmental deletions--arsenic-in-your-water being the operative symbol--are throwback appeasements to business patrons and parochial politics (the Bushies seem surprised to learn that people, including Republicans, do care about these matters). Bush's abrupt reversal on global warming, discarding his campaign pledge to reduce carbon dioxide emissions, is the most dangerous shift and is sure to bite back. The tax-cut legislation is hand-me-down Reaganomics from the early eighties (Bush's fumbling turn as a fake Keynesian failed to persuade.) His energy policy--drill we must, lest we become dependent on foreign oil--is similarly out of date. Oil-guzzling America is (and ever will be) dependent on imported oil as long as it fails to reform its consumption patterns, no matter how much pristine landscape is torn up by drilling rigs (as even the industry boys privately acknowledge). The cold-warrior wannabes--let's get it on with the Chinese--held their tongues during the Hainan Island incident, but they expect their silence to be rewarded with Star Wars and other arms boodle. The blunt assault on organized labor, though expected by the unions, has been meaner and pettier than could have been anticipated. Bush's obeisance to the right on a woman's choice revives harm to innocents around the world. In short, there are no new ideas here. The Bush content is composed entirely of recycled oldies from the Nixon/Ford and Reagan/Bush years. Indeed, his government is populated by elder statesmen and hacks from those administrations, joined by fervent young acolytes who innocently believe in the restoration. The older heads, we suspect, are more cynical--pushing through whatever they can as fast as possible in the knowledge that the conservative hegemony is living on borrowed time. In other circumstances, their clash with reality could be entertaining. But our situation is far too dangerous. As the economy sinks and unemployment begins to swell, as corporate bankruptcies accumulate, an eyes-open government would be preparing emergency measures to stimulate recovery and to rescue millions of debt-soaked families. The Bush Administration instead pushes through a bankruptcy bill for bankers. It seeks to whack tax obligations for the wealthy one more time. It squeezes the very public spending accounts that could serve as economic stabilizers in troubled times. Meanwhile, it turns on the smoke machines to promote another round of free-trade agreements, unwilling to acknowledge the international rebellion expressed in the streets of Quebec. Bush foreign policy--the China incident aside--looks like a smashmouth approach to global relations. We're the big guys. We get to say what goes. Kyoto and global warming--forget about it. Russia and China--in your face. South Korea's hopeful reach for détente with the North is brushed aside. A massively flawed national missile defense policy is pursued with no regard for existing treaties or the alarms it raises in Moscow and Beijing, or Paris, Berlin and London. Expanding NATO to Russia's borders is put on the agenda. All this amounts to the worst form of America First triumphalism. Given our
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-Caveat Lector- [HardGreenHerald] # 15 Unless someone like you cares a whole lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not. --Dr. Seuss, 'The Lorax' --A RadTimes production-- --- Contents: --- --GM Crops May All Be Unstable --Animal Rights Groups Attack Lab by Focusing on Banks --Solid Evidence 'Greenhouse Gas' Heating Up Earth --Global spread of DU reaches food chain --Huntingdon Sues Animal Activists --Greenpeace Amazon Team Catches Illegal Loggers in Brazil --Foot And Mouth Disease Expected To Hit U.S. --'Eco-terror' threat to US suburbia === GM Crops May All Be Unstable ISIS Report April 8, 2001 ISIS has drawn attention to the instability of GMOs and GM constructs all along. Prof. Joe Cummins offers this latest verdict, all GM crops may be unstable. It is repeatedly claimed that genetically modified (GM) crops are altered with single genes that are stable and equivalent to the genes that have been selected and bred into the crops. In every case the GM crops originated from cell cultures that have been know to be vexed with a phenomenon called somaclonal variation. Somaclonal variation has been encountered in genetic transformation using both biolistic and Agrobacterium transformation followed by cell culture to isolate desirable agricultural characteristics. The phenomenon is that cell cultures leading to isolate individual clones and plants are plagued by genetic instability caused both by gene mutation and chromosome rearrangement. In extreme responses plants may be infertile and the extensive mutation leads to undesirable toxic natural products being produced. Furthermore, the transgenes introduced into the modified crop are recognized as invaders by the crop being transformed and the invading genes are silenced by mechanisms including DNA methylation or gene inactivation at transcription. The evidence that the genetic instability resulting in somaclonal variation is caused by activation of inactive virus like genetic elements called transposons is currently very compelling (see Courtial et al 2001). Activated transposons create both gene mutation and chromosome rearrangement. On top of the somaclonal impact the inserted transgenes are frequently silenced (see Demeke et al 1999). Even the most widely distributed commercial GM crops such as Roundup Ready soy were found to contain unexplained DNA sequences in the gene for herbicide resistance after ten years of cultivation (Palevitz 2000). The promised peer review publication on the aberrant DNA sequences was not located and similar problems with similar transformations in corn, cotton or canola have not yet been studied. Certainly, government regulators and their academic satellites seem passive and submissive in dealing with important findings reflecting on the safety of GM crops. Even though the stability and long term stability of transgenic crops is of paramount importance there have been few published studies on the genetic stability and response to varying environments of transgenic crops. A study of transgenic barley showed that GM barley was inferior to conventional barley in a number of genetic backgrounds and environmental conditions (Horvath et al 2001). Such problems may reflect somaclonal variation or unexpected gene silencing, or they may reflect other unpredicted aspects of genetic modification. In conclusion, there should be a moratorium on the use and distribution of GM crops until the consequences of genetic instability are fully explored. Government regulators should not be allowed to ignore the consequences of allowing sudden revelations about DNA sequences that crop up unexpectedly in commercial crops sold as unlabelled food to unsuspecting people. References * Courtail,B,Fenebach,F,Ebehard,S,Rhomer,L,Chiapello,H,Carilleri,C and Lucas,H Tnt 1 transposition events are induced by in vitro transformation of Aradopsis thaliana, and transposed copies integrated into genes 2001 Mol Gen Genomics 265,32-42 Demeke,T,Hucl,P,Baga,M,Caswell,K,Leung,N and Chibar,R Transgene inheritance and silencing in hexaploid spring wheat 1999 Theor Appl Genet 99,947-53 Horvath,H,Jensen,L,Wong,O,kohl,E,Ullrich,S,Cochran,J,Kannangara,C, and von Wettstein,D Stability of transgene expression , field performance and recombination breeding of transformed barley lines2001 Theor Appl Genet 2001,1-11 Palevitz,B DNA surprise: Monsanto discovers extra sequence in its Roundup Ready soybeans 2000 The scientist 14,20 (july 24) For further details please constact Prof. Joe Cummins at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Visit the Institute of Science in Society homepage www.i-sis.org === Taking a Bite Out of Backing Animal Rights Groups Attack Lab by Focusing on Banks By Dean
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-Caveat Lector- [radtimes] # 200 An informally produced compendium of vital irregularities. We're living in rad times! --- Send $$ to RadTimes!! -- (See ** at end.) --- Contents: --No aloha for Asian Development Bank --6,000 police prepare for May Day riots --Worldwide war waged on global capitalism --Police mobilise for May Day mayhem --RIAA Anti-Piracy Efforts Lead To 17 Years For Music Counterfeiter --US Navy asks for riot police to quell Vieques protests --May Day movement mobilises online --Backlash against May Day zero tolerance --Five to a bed in Orsainville cells --Drum-beating protest demand easing of poor countries' debt --Protest: a short, but definitive guide --German Police Battle May Day Protesters in Berlin === No aloha for Asian Development Bank http://hawaii.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=131 THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE APPEARED IN THE LATEST ISSUE OF THE GREEN LEFT WEEKLY.AUSTRALIA NEWS BY NORM DIXON The Pacific tourist Mecca of Honolulu is to be the next focus of demonstrations against the international capitalist financial institutions in this case the Asian Development Bank. The ADB's board of governors is to meet at the Honolulu Convention Center, May 7-11. Protest organisers and the Honolulu Police Department expect that thousands, many from the Asia and Pacific Ocean region, will demonstrate on May 9 against the ADB's anti-Third World policies and projects. The May 9 protest, and other activities beginning May 5, is being organised by ADB Watch, a broad coalition of groups students, environmentalists, trade unions, indigenous Hawaiians and human rights activists working for social and economic justice in Hawaii and around the world. ADB Watch issued a call to progressive movements across the world to come to Hawaii to create non-violent activities and events challenging globalisation and the ADB's record of imposing destructive and oppressive policies and projects on communities throughout Asia and the Pacific. The Honolulu Police Department (HPD), the city council and the state government have moved to institute a range of repressive measures to deal with the protests. The HPD's 1900 officers, as well as firefighters, sheriff's department officers and the Hawaii National Guard have received special training for handling civil disturbances, dealing with crowds and other situations, reported Honolulu Advertiser last December. All police leave has been cancelled during the ADB gathering and officers who normally do desk work will be put on the streets. The HPD is demanding an extra US$6-7 million to provide security for up to 3000 ADB and government officials, as well as media workers, expected to attend the meeting. Among those attending will be many finance ministers from the Asia-Pacific region. US president George W. Bush may also attend. In early April, some 5500 members of the paramilitary Hawaii National Guard donned flak jackets, face shields and helmets and trained for riot control before TV cameras and press reporters. Police have been harassing activists as they hand out leaflets in Waikiki and, in one case, a driver with a Shut Down ADB bumper sticker was stopped and questioned. The HPD has announced that to monitor protesters, police will be checking airlines' lists of arriving passengers and surfing the internet. The Honolulu City Council has introduced laws to make it easier for police to arrest people camping in the city's parks and to outlaw the wearing of masks or disguises. The aim of the anti-camping measure is to ban protesters' camps and remove homeless people from the city during the ADB meeting. The laws will remain in place after the ADB meeting has ended. In another move designed to prevent protesters gathering, the HPD and the city council will close several public parks nearest the ADB meeting site, claiming they will be needed as staging areas for police and security forces. Not only will demonstrators be banned but also paddling clubs, little league baseballers and soccer teams. Around 4000 protesters greeted the ADB at the bank's last meeting in Chiang Mai, Thailand, last May. The ADB meeting was originally planned for Seattle but following the 1999 mass anti-corporate protests, ADB officials looked for another venue. After heavy lobbying by the Hawaii Tourism Authority, the meeting was shifted to Honolulu. This has resulted in the unusual situation in which the independent Hawaii Tourism Authority has become the official spokesperson for the authorities. The authority has even diverted $500,000 to help the police buy riot gear, in the name of promoting tourism! Hawaii Tourism Authority executive director Bob Fishman told the February 7 Honolulu
[CTRL] Bush Drives Us Into Bakunins Arms!'
-Caveat Lector- 'Bush Drives Us Into Bakunin's Arms!' An Interview with Howard Zinn http://eserver.org/bs/54/zinn.html by Joe Lockard and Joel Schalit Bad Subjects, Issue # 54 , March 2001 At last year's Sundance Festival, historian Howard Zinn was invited to give a lecture on Hollywood's propagandistic slant. Zinn's talk was recorded and recently released as Stories Hollywood Never Tells by San Francisco's Alternative Tentacles Records and the UK-based radical publisher, AK Press. Over the course of sixty-some minutes, Zinn, speaking to the alternative film elite, spins out a marvelously accessible lecture about how Hollywood has always toed the establishment's line, reinforcing falsehoods and mythologies across the board. Not only does it offer an incisive expose of Hollywood chicanery, but the compact disc also provides the perfect forum for an activist cum academic like Zinn to reach beyond privileged university students seeking liberal arts enlightenment before moving on to law school and connect with another audience, the culture industry itself. The recording's one flaw is its introduction, which David Barsamian provides. Barsamian, noted leftist talk show host, head of his own syndicated Alternative Radio Project program, and much-loved in progressive media circles, introduces Zinn to the Sundance audience by comparing him to one of the towering figures of Islamic esoteric, a Sufi mystic Jalal al-din Rumi. Zinn, Barsamian explains, is not so much a religious mystic, rather he, like Jalal al-din Rumi, teaches forbidden knowledge, in this case, real history. For those familiar with the basic tenets of Marxist ideology criticism, there's some truth to Barsamian's discomforting, extremely 1960s analogy: Ideology is always about disguising the truth, that is, about the process of 'mystification.' In this instance, Zinn is the great revealer of suppressed truths or, in other words, the great demystifier. In all likelihood, this kind of Freudian slip was not what Barsamian intended. Instead, Barsamian most likely wanted to underscore Zinn's standing in a particular community of progressive intellectuals tired of the layers of lies consistently put forth by an academic and a media establishment all too willing to embrace the self-congratulatory narratives of the corporate state and big business. It's not as though Zinn isn't worth mystifying to a certain extent either. Now a professor emeritus in Boston University's history department, he's been one of the most influential US historians of his generation. Zinn's People's History of the United States (1980) decisively influenced the study and teaching of US history, opening it as a field of multicultural discussion. Revised editions have secured its status as one of the most popular university history texts in recent memory. On the day before George Bush was inaugurated as president, we asked Zinn about his observations concerning this juncture in American history. BS: Since George W. Bush seems so much the emblem of commerce and the privileging of capital in the US, how might he also speak to an older history of robber barons and 19th century capitalism? Zinn: Let's go back to President McKinley and the age of the robber barons and ask who was the original cause of people like George Bush? In 1896, McKinley beats the populist candidate William Jennings Bryan and represents corporate wealth. It's a time when monopolies are being created. A few years after McKinley's election, US Steel is formed from a merger of two major steel companies. The railroads are consolidating, and the Supreme Court is making all sorts of decisions in favor of big business and corporations. So sure, you can go back to the era of the robber barons in the late 19th century and say, Here we have Bush again, representing robber barons. But it would be deceptive to pretend that this is a departure from what we have had under Clinton or Carter, just as McKinley wasn't a tremendous departure from Grover Cleveland. Grover Cleveland was a Democrat, and McKinley was a Republican. And although McKinley was more in tune with corporate power than Cleveland, Cleveland was certainly a friend of big business and not a friend of labor. It was Grover Cleveland who brought out the troops in 1894 to break the Pullman Strike. The point I'm making is that whether you have a Republican or a Democrat in power, the robber barons are still there. If you look at Clinton, his administration was very good to the corporations. The Dow Jones average during the Clinton years went up from four thousand to ten thousand. Well, whom did it go up for? Who benefited mostly from that? The great stockholders of the nation are the ones who benefited the most. Under the Clinton administration, more mergers of huge corporations took place, more than any others that had ever taken place before under any administration. I'm saying this not to soften the impact of Bush's alliance with the rich, only to say that the
[CTRL] Cooper, William C aka William Milton Cooper, etc.
-Caveat Lector- Item on Greer - MD in Emergency Roomseems to be in a cult of a type which has drawn UFO cultists . think the think I saw in sky few days ago had to be a Chinese missile or something traveling high - silver - like we used to see in the 50 and 60 period..some of these things in those days came so low you had the feeling you could touch them - but they were usually ours from Vandenberg that I saw - in particular, the first missile to go from south to north, I witnessed right over my house - it was one my relative was working on... Used to fly in and out of Wright Field a lot..when I asked him about what I had seen he said change your brand of whiskey but I did not drink.so, later it was reported what it was.This Cooper has big mouth for whatever he is he does make many errors...this Colonel Steve, forget last name - he must be the one to whom he referred who ended up in jail on some charge.if that guy was a full Colonel he could still have been busted. Lots of this stuff seems to come from sources at Redstone - and loose talk. Phil set up Vandenberg where a lot of good stuff went on and then to England as Thor Chief and BMEWS stuff.things got so bad re Germany he had to commute from England ..a General Robert E. Lee at that time USAF got into some kind of trouble right wing stuff...Life had done big article on his life - said AIR Force Most Valuable Man.but he had evidently a breakdown - This site was looking for picture of Gordon Novel...he was rather disturbed about this - Novel is real patriot. Saba Location: Mothership - Ufomind Mailing List - 1999 - Jan - Dr. Steven Greer -- Millennial Cult Leader Dr. Steven Greer -- Millennial Cult Leader From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:06:30 -0800 Via: Rob McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Found at www.ABCNEWS.com (Greer and CSETI are mentioned at the end.) - Begin Web Page Excerpt - APOCALYPSE REALLY SOON Is it the End of the World as We Know It? Jan. 5 -- As the year 2000 creeps ever closer, millennialist cults are becoming ever more frenzied. Many of them are convinced that the world will end or transform itself soon after next Jan. 1. Israel's decision this week to deport 11 members of a Denver-based cult called Concerned Christians shows how seriously the authorities there take the fervor. The group, whose members were holed up in Jerusalem apartments, allegedly planned mayhem that would unleash the second coming of Christ. And Concerned Christians is not alone. Back in the United States, according to a 1997 Associated Press poll, nearly 25 percent of adult Christians -- more than 26 million people -- believe that Jesus Christ will return to Earth in their lifetimes and set in motion the horrific events laid out in the biblical books of Revelation and Daniel. Some of those people join religious groups fixated on the end. People who expect the world to end soon do a lot of very strange things, writes Ted Daniels, director of the Millennium Watch Institute, who has more than 1,200 cults in his database. They reject and even contradict the rules of common sense that keep the rest of us sane and feed our lives. They destroy the things they need to survive. They provoke fights they can't possibly win, and they talk about things that obviously won't happen. The groups themselves are often secretive and hard to track down. Nevertheless, ABCNEWS.com has put together this quick guide to some of the more prominent millennialist groups: Sukyo Mahikari: A secretive Japanese group said by former members to spread a neo-Nazi, anti-Semitic dogma, it has established itself as a charitable organization in England. A group leaflet says as the year 2000 approaches, mankind might be annihilated by the baptism of fire. Similar language turned up in Aum Shinrikyo materials. Aum Shinrikyo was the cult famous for the deadly sarin gas attack in Tokyo. A spokesman for Sukyo Mahikiri has denied the cult is linked to Aum Shinrikyo or that it is anti-Semitic. The House of Yahweh: A former kibbutz worker named Jacob -- now Yisrael -- Hawkins started the House of Yahweh, a group that prophesies that the end of the world will arrive very soon if the laws of Yahweh set down in the Bible are not universally obeyed, and the temple in Jerusalem not rebuilt to lie side by side with the Dome of the Rock Mosque. Hawkins has about 3,000 followers who believe he will announce the second coming of Jesus before being murdered by Satan. Concerned Christians: This group, whose members were ordered deported from Israel, was started by Monte Kim Miller, who used to run an anti-cult network in Denver. People who know the cult say Miller believes he is the last prophet on Earth before Armageddon. Miller, who reportedly believed he talked to God each morning before he went to work, was said to claim that America was Satan and the government evil. Miller has predicted he will die on the
[CTRL] Behold a Dead Horse?
-Caveat Lector- Dale have you seen this item? This Cooper Milton William and William M and William C appear to be same man. If he would be a full ranking naval intelligence officer or USAF he would have been busted or even if retired could still be in trouble He looks like the enemy within? Doesn't seem to have any first hand knowledge really about what went on but at least they had line on web where Edgar Mitchell walked on moon? No kidding? Saba Good item here. Other was too big to send but you probably have it; these are just hyped version of Hells Fire Club stuff American style? William Bill Cooper John Lear The Fraud, The hoax and the Fight When I started looking for UFO related information on the internet, I found a lot of sites that publicised the statements by William Cooper and John Lear without further comment (I guess that's a good indication about the knowledge of UFO research that th ose site-maintainers have - none). I personally don't think that these two idiots deserve any attention, but since the wide-spread disinformation about these two, I thought it would be a good thing to expose the truth about them. For the same reason y ou won't find any of their bogus documents on this site. If it weren't that William Cooper is such an unlikely person (understatement.), his writings might have been a popular science-fiction story. William Cooper created his image as a high ranking (ex-)member of Naval Intelligence. In reality, his job consisted nothing more than setting up audio-visual equipment and sending out paperwork to the Pacific Fleet briefing teams. William Cooper was intro duced by John Lear to the UFO Research Community, and made his appearance on the Paranet BBS. After making a total ass out of himselve, this is what Michael Corbin (Paranet Sysop) has to say about him: First, I don't want to get into any protracted discussions about Bill Cooper. All I can say is that we, ParaNet, had a great deal of experience with Bill Cooper, up to and including ejecting him from the net for causing a variety of disruptions, not to mention strong attacks on other members of the net that were counter-productive to intelligent discussion. Our organization has investigated Cooper to the max and can find no truth in anything he says except that he was in the Navy, but not in the capacity that he claims. Further, the tape of the JFK driver has obviously been altered. I have a copy of that tape and I have no doubt in my mind that someone has edited it to make it look like the driver. The bottom line is that Bill Cooper just d oesn't hold water, so anything he says should be taken with a large block of salt and tongue planted firmly in cheek. During that time, a document was placed on Paranet called the O.H. Krill Papers, wich was a very shocking story about the US shadow government, cooperation between that group and Alien Grey's, Underground Alien Bases, new world order, and so forth. His final demise came at the moment that he was being interviewed on a TV show together with John Lear. Lear heard William Cooper use the O.H Krill name, While John Lear wanted to use the show to announce that he made the O.H. Krill paper as a joke t ogether with with John Grace (Valdemar Valerian, who heads the Nevada Aerial Research Organization), William Cooper went on to mention the fact that he had first seen this document while working for the Office of Naval Intelligence in the early 1970's. John Lear immediately pulled William Cooper aside and quietly told him, Bill, O.H. Krill is a joke! John Grace and I used Krill from Bob Emenegger's special 'UFO's: It Has Begun' because of a woman who allegedly channeled an entity named CRYLLL. Grace ju st pulled the O.H. out of thin air! William Cooper instantly unleashed his hostile self and in his usual denial of reality, replied that Lear was mistaken, insisting that he had seen it in 1972 while working for Naval Intelligence. He went on to say that Lear is a liar, disinfo agent, etc. and still says so up to the present day. That's what happens to all people who cross Cooper. He immediately proclaims them to be Evil Agents working for the Conspiracy. So William Cooper made an ass of himself and left UFOlogy long ago mainly because UFOlogists chewed him up and spat him out. (It took them a while though.) Now he spends his time ranting about the New World Order and the imminent armed take-over of the U.S. by the United Nations. He's a liar and a crook (he wants people to send him gold so he can fund the fight against the New World Order), and the last I heard of him is that he's the leader of an Anti-Government Militia. In case you would like to read more on this case, I suggeest the following articles: Bo Gritz Says Bo Gritz explains why Cooper's security clearance is bogus Lear And Loathing In Las Vegas Sections from the book UFOs, Aliens, and Ex-intelligence Agents by Lars Hansson. Behold A Stale Horse by I.M. Feddup Whistle Blowers by Don
[CTRL] Where are all the bleeding hearts?
-Caveat Lector- Disgusted Steve - you make me sick. I gave my explanation to an inquiry - now where are all you people when Africa is being murdered? So much for Steve Wingate and his UFO's. Home|RegisterWeb Search: Death Toll in Congo War May Approach 3 Million Conflict Leaves Trail of Starvation, Disease and Carnage A local boy in Lushebere, Congo, shows off his handiwork. (Karl Vick - The Washington Post) _Graphic_ Map of Congo E-Mail This Article Printer-Friendly Version Subscribe to The Post By Karl Vick Washington Post Foreign Service Monday, April 30, 2001; Page A01 LUSHEBERE, Congo -- As foreign armies pull back from Congo's farthest reaches and aid agencies move forward, the human toll of the country's 32-month war is being sketched in apocalyptic terms beyond any previously documented in an African conflict. According to a new death census conducted by a private American aid agency, the number of lives claimed by the Congo war now approaches 3 million. \ (Saba note: the silent holocaust everyone knows about - see Rhodes Roundtable cleared out do we bult a shrine to the dead) The survey by the New York-based International Rescue Committee (IRC) was conducted only in the rebel-held eastern half of the country, where most of the fighting and even more of the accompanying hardship has taken place. The toll would almost surely be higher if the government-held western half were included. The survey attributes a relatively small proportion of the deaths -- a few hundred thousand -- to the battles waged by the Congolese army, its rebel foes and troops from the half-dozen other African countries that have fought on both sides of the conflict. The vast majority of deaths have resulted from starvation, disease and deprivation on a scale emerging only as aid workers reach areas that have been cut off by fighting and lack of roads. People are dying of nothing, of everything, said a worker for Pharmacists Without Borders, after returning from a humanitarian assessment in the Kasai region. Villagers in the region -- long renowned for its diamond mines, but now ravaged by hunger -- refer to two kinds of gems: white ones and red ones. The red ones are peanuts. The IRC's figures are one-third higher than the number of deaths estimated from 18 years of war in Sudan, and three times the most frequently quoted death count for the Biafra conflict of the 1960s. Things are a little worse than the picture we painted last year, said Les Roberts, an epidemiologist formerly with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention who conducted this year's IRC survey and one last year that estimated the death toll in eastern Congo at 1.7 million. And last year's estimate turns out to have been low. Until the IRC sent survey teams into eastern Congo, little was known about the human toll of a war fought largely out of the world's sight. The conflict began in August 1998, when rebels backed by Rwanda and Uganda rose up against Laurent Kabila, then the president of Congo. After Angola, Zimbabwe and Namibia sent troops, warplanes and armor to aid Kabila's army, the war settled into a stalemate that has left the vast country divided roughly in half. An agreement to bring in U.N. peacekeeping troops has moved forward since Kabila's assassination in January put his son, Joseph, in power. The new President Kabila frequently quotes IRC's first death estimate, calling it evidence that this stupid war verges on genocide. Independent experts who have reviewed both IRC reports say the surveys appear to be sound. Epidemiologists offer two explanations for the extreme numbers: Strife in Africa usually goes unmeasured, and the strife in Congo has gone on for almost three years, perhaps a dozen times longer than the epidemics and carnage that typically produce the stunning death rates that IRC reports. It may be that this situation is worse than any of these others, said Ronald Waldman, a specialist in refugee health at the Mailman School of Public Health at Columbia University. This is a more chronic, deeply cutting episode, I think. Added another Western medical epidemiologist with long experience in humanitarian emergencies: My personal belief is these numbers are the absolute best that could be done in the circumstances, and there's absolutely no reason to believe any bias of any kind has found its way in. The mortality is so outrageously high that even if the numbers were half that, the mortality is still outrageously high. Although a National Academy of Sciences committee approved the methodology of the original study, IRC concedes that there were structural imperfections in both tallies. Roberts emphasized the risks inherent in extrapolating a death rate for a whole province based on house-to-house interviews in sites that surveyors believe -- but, without solid population data, cannot know -- to be representative. Yet some of IRC's key findings -- of extremely high mortality among
[CTRL] Fw: Whites a minority in half America's biggest cities
-Caveat Lector- Aleisha has seven posts per day just as the rest of us do. How you equate that to two-thirds of the posts is interesting. When I signed up to CTRL, I did not think I would encounter people so narrow-minded that all they could think of was censoring others. Most conspiracy theorists have a very open mind. Several people have expressed that they both understand and enjoy Aleisha's posts. If you cannot be bothered to delete seven posts a day, perhaps you are too busy to be on the list. Amelia - Original Message - From: Jenny Decker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Whites a minority in half America's biggest cities -Caveat Lector- Hi Steve, As someone who believed--when signing up for the CTRL list--that it would provide information, not random hate smears, I agree with you. Yes, we can hit delete--but why should any of us have to stay on alert to delete more than two thirds of the list's messages because they are A.S.'s mindless, hate-soaked filth??? Why don't the list's moderators get rid of this person? Jenny Decker - Original Message - From: Steve Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Whites a minority in half America's biggest cities -Caveat Lector- On 1 May 01, at 13:19, Aleisha Saba wrote: Am I a racist? Well if preferring to be with my own kind, sending my children an my grandson to white schools, not mixing pedigrees with blacks - if that makes me a racist, then I guess I am a racist. I think you are turning CTRL into a joke. You need professional help IMO, but apparently many others here like what you say. I think most of your posts are disgusting and wish you would just keep your problems to yourself. Just think of the young people that you might be influencing. Your statements are disgusting and have no place on a conspiracy list. Steve A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: International Society for UFO Research and UFO Roundup
-Caveat Lector- As I have stated before, I do not have strong feelings one way or the other concerning UFO's. There has been some mention of the interest is seeing more posted on this subject. If I were to follow it closely, these are two sites that I think I would enjoy. So for all those into UFO's I present ~~ UFO RoundUp~~Lots of info and sites http://www.ufoinfo.com/roundup/ And Subject: International Society for UFO Research http://www.isur.com/index.cgi?s=r A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hells Fire Club
-Caveat Lector- John Birch Society years ago had a little item on the old Hells Fire Club; during WWII had relative there and the caves are reopened last I heard. This name taking, code names from the bible; believe Jason is in Acts 17 - but one of the members of the Hells Fire Club took the code name Paul the Aged The print I have, an original, shows them in a basement drinking a hogshead of wine..Paul Whitehead who had his heart cut out and put in an urn at his request after death, naturally - had taken this code name. On record today are the bar bills they ran upbut I think in Romans you have these terms I will repay with a much more cryptic meaning. For who knows what goes on behind closed doors. Here is the only reference in bible to Paul the Aged..his heart was stolen and I imagine the Bohemian Club might have one or it, by now. In Acts, didn't these guys meet at the Three Taverns (there is a tavern in the town..) Saba The King James Bible at the Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Philemon, chapter 1 1: Paul, a prisoner of Jesus Christ, and Timothy our brother, unto Philemon our dearly beloved, and fellowlabourer, 2: And to our beloved Apphia, and Archippus our fellowsoldier, and to the church in thy house: 3: Grace to you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. 4: I thank my God, making mention of thee always in my prayers, 5: Hearing of thy love and faith, which thou hast toward the Lord Jesus, and toward all saints; 6: That the communication of thy faith may become effectual by the acknowledging of every good thing which is in you in Christ Jesus. 7: For we have great joy and consolation in thy love, because the bowels of the saints are refreshed by thee, brother. 8: Wherefore, though I might be much bold in Christ to enjoin thee that which is convenient, 9: Yet for love's sake I rather beseech thee, being such an one as Paul the aged, and now also a prisoner of Jesus Christ. 10: I beseech thee for my son Onesimus, whom I have begotten in my bonds: 11: Which in time past was to thee unprofitable, but now profitable to thee and to me: 12: Whom I have sent again: thou therefore receive him, that is, mine own bowels: 13: Whom I would have retained with me, that in thy stead he might have ministered unto me in the bonds of the gospel: 14: But without thy mind would I do nothing; that thy benefit should not be as it were of necessity, but willingly. 15: For perhaps he therefore departed for a season, that thou shouldest receive him for ever; 16: Not now as a servant, but above a servant, a brother beloved, specially to me, but how much more unto thee, both in the flesh, and in the Lord? 17: If thou count me therefore a partner, receive him as myself. 18: If he hath wronged thee, or oweth thee ought, put that on mine account; 19: I Paul have written it with mine own hand, I will repay it: albeit I do not say to thee how thou owest unto me even thine own self besides. 20: Yea, brother, let me have joy of thee in the Lord: refresh my bowels in the Lord. 21: Having confidence in thy obedience I wrote unto thee, knowing that thou wilt also do more than I say. 22: But withal prepare me also a lodging: for I trust that through your prayers I shall be given unto you. 23: There salute thee Epaphras, my fellowprisoner in Christ Jesus; 24: Marcus, Aristarchus, Demas, Lucas, my fellowlabourers. 25: The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit. Amen. Just a bunch of laborers in God's vineyard? Left a big bar billeven some singed on credit by John Wilkes, the great great grandfather, of John Wilkes Booth. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Human Rights of Jail
-Caveat Lector- The Human Rights of Jail http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=10822 Philip Smith, DRCNet May 1, 2001 The belief that male prisoners are raped by other prisoners is so common as to qualify for status as an urban myth. If only that were the case. A report released this week by Human Rights Watch, No Escape: Male Rape in U.S. Prisons, shows in sometimes excruciating detail that the sexual abuse of male prisoners by other prisoners is pervasive in American jails and prisons, and that prison officials are turning a blind eye to it. The report could finally force policy-makers and the public to confront the epidemic of prison rape that has been building for years. Until now, while prisoners and their defenders complained in vain, the unsavory subject has been ignored by the press, denied by authorities and sniggered at by late night comedians. While talk show hosts make jokes and politicians make excuses, American prisoners are raped by the tens of thousands, perhaps the hundreds of thousands, each year. But earlier this week, major media outlets prodded by Human Rights Watch ran with the story. ABC News ran a tough, three-night series on its evening news, in which anchorman Peter Jennings pronounced prison rape an epidemic, while the New York Times jumped on board with a major Sunday story, Little Sympathy or Remedy for Inmates Who Are Raped, which opened with a prison rape scene certain to have disturbed the Sunday brunch appetites of its readers. Based on correspondence from over 200 prisoners, inmate interviews, reviews of the literature on prison rape and a national survey of corrections systems, Human Rights Watch reports that rape is widespread behind bars in the U.S.. Citing surveys of guards and inmates, the group reported shocking rates of prison rape: A 1968 Philadelphia study found 3 percent, a 1982 California study reported 14 percent; 11 percent in Nebraska in 1996, and last year, in a study of prisons in four midwestern states, the Prison Journal found 7 percent. Correctional officers surveyed anonymously put the figure at 20 percent. Interestingly, line guards gave higher estimates than prison officials. These numbers are for anal rape only; when oral rape or other unwanted sexual contact is included it seems likely that somewhere between one-quarter and one-third of prisoners have either endured or fended off sexual attack in U.S. prisons. With nearly two million people behind bars in this country, the scope of this crime is enormous. At a 3 percent rape rate among male prisoners, that is 54,000 prisoners raped every year. That is the lowball figure. If 10 percent are raped in jail or prison each year, nearly 200,000 prisoners are being subjected to humiliating and often brutal attacks while in the custody of the state. It doesn't have to be that way, says Human Rights Watch. Rape is in no way an inevitable consequence of incarceration, said Joanne Mariner, deputy director of the Americas division of Human Rights Watch and author of the report. But it is a predictable one if prison and prosecutorial authorities do little to prevent and punish it. Accusing prison authorities of deliberate indifference to prison rape, the report found that no state surveyed showed abuse rates anywhere near those reported by guards and prisoners and that half of the state prison systems did not even keep statistics on inmate-on-inmate rapes. Nebraska, where 11 percent of prisoners reported being raped, said its prevalence was minimal. New Mexico reported no recorded instances over the past few years. Only Texas, California and Florida reported more than 50 rapes in the last year, but these numbers are infinitesimal given the size of their respective prison populations. The human rights group also criticized prison guards and the broader criminal justice system. Human Rights Watch found that correctional staff frequently ignore or even react hostilely to inmates' complaints of rape, said Mariner. Another important contributing factor to the prison rape crisis is the failure of the criminal justice system to address these crimes. Perpetrators of prison rape rarely face criminal charges, even when rape is accompanied by extreme physical violence. Part of the reason for the criminal justice system's failure is the result of decisions made by Congress to limit prisoners' ability to sue for relief. The 1996 Prison Litigation Reform Act, seemingly perversely designed to facilitate abuses within prisons, made it far more difficult for prisoners to sue over their conditions of confinement. That same year, Congress also barring the Federal Legal Services Corporation from legal aid organizations that represent prisoners, reducing the pool of legal talent available to work on behalf on inmates. Prison rape is part of the mythology of prison life. But in reality, it is devastating human rights abuse that can and should be prevented, said Mariner. In a detailed series of recommendations, the report
[CTRL] Happy Birthday CTRL
-Caveat Lector- Though many times it seems longer. CTRL enters into its fourth year of existence today, hurray, hurrah. And though its not alwayds tidy, not always neat, the Internet's given us back the freedom of speech. the deviant elites got us mad in the streets Time for danger, time to beware, Of shanks in the woodpile And what you believe too. For as a dime will get ya dollar (And I done seen that in my time) There be leaders aplenty presworn. The wiz o' oz is baring his soul for control Quick strike while the iron is . . . Om K A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Former Nebraska Senator Calls for Kerrey Probe
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.CNSNEWS.com/ViewPentagon.asp?Page=\Pentagon\archive\200105\PEN20010 501a.html Click Here: A HREF=http://www.CNSNEWS.com/ViewPentagon.asp?Page=\Pentagon\archive\200105\PE N20010501a.htmlhttp://www.CNSNEWS.com/ViewPentagon.asp/A - Former Nebraska Senator Calls for Kerrey Probe By Lawrence Morahan CNS Senior Staff Writer May 01, 2001 (CNSNews.com) - A Vietnam veteran and former Nebraska state senator is calling for a legitimate investigation into the action of former U.S. Sen. Bob Kerrey, who recently disclosed he led a unit that killed women and children non-combatants in Vietnam in 1969. There were no wounded, either American or Vietnamese, after American soldiers returned fire in the Vietnamese village of Thanh Phong on the night of Feb. 25, 1969, killing more than a dozen unarmed women and children, said attorney John DeCamp. You all know what this means, said DeCamp, a veterans' advocate who conducted his first political campaign while serving as an Army captain in Vietnam in the Mekong Delta in 1969 and 1970. DeCamp won election and served as senator from 1971 to 1987. The Lincoln attorney addressed his allegations in a letter to Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.), John Kerry (D-Mass.), and Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.), all Vietnam veterans who took to the airwaves on the weekend to defend Kerrey. DeCamp charged the Pentagon with knowingly falsifying official records and falsely labeling unarmed women and children as Viet Cong combatants. The Pentagon awarded medals for actions that warranted investigation as war crimes, he said. Kerrey only came forward when he knew the story was about to be published in The New York Times Magazine, DeCamp said. No claim has been presented by Kerrey or others, I believe, that there were any Viet Cong or Viet Cong soldiers they saw captured, killed, wounded or saw run away, DeCamp said. The SEALs invoked the code of silence to protect their commander, he charged. The letter's recipients said on TV they had no desire to see the Pentagon open an investigation into the incident, for which Kerrey was awarded the Bronze Star. To talk now about an investigation, it seems to me, is just the wrong way to go, Kerry said Sunday on ABC's This Week. If the Pentagon asked me, I'd say no. There's no point in it, Hagel said. I don't think we need an investigation here. Kerrey, the former Nebraska governor and senator, and five other former members of his Navy SEAL team, said in a written statement to The Washington Post that what happened at Thanh Phong was a defining and tragic moment for each of us. We regret the results of this night. We might do things differently if we could do it over. But we cannot be certain. We were young men then and did what we thought was right and necessary, they said. Another member of the SEAL team, Gerhard Klann, said in interviews that Kerrey ordered the shooting of civilian women, children and elderly in the village. That simply is not true, Kerrey and the others stated. We know there was an enemy meeting in this village. We know this meeting had been secured by armed forces. We took fire from these forces and we returned fire. The Pentagon last week left open the possibility of investigating the award of a Bronze Star to Kerrey. The citation for the combat medal says 21 Viet Cong were killed and enemy weapons were captured or destroyed. Kerrey said he told his military superiors that his squad killed civilians. A Pentagon spokesman said Monday that allegations such as those leveled against Kerrey and his squad are considered on their merit before any official action is taken, and the Defense Department was not considering investigating the incident at Thanh Phong. Vietnam veterans also said they did not favor singling out Kerrey for investigation. I wouldn't say it's something they absolutely should not do, said Ed Miles, associate director of Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation. If the evidence was there, they should do it, but I think if you do that, this should serve as an opportunity to look at the war and the rules of engagement, which to me is more important than trying to determine what happened in this village. The Americans have never taken responsibility for this war and the way it was fought, and they should use this as an opportunity to do that, added Miles, who was wounded in action in a village like Thanh Phong in 1969. All original CNSNews.com material, copyright 1998-2001 Cybercast News Service.0k, - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions
Re: [CTRL] Happy Birthday CTRL
-Caveat Lector- The Unfinished Poem? Happy Birthday Kris and CTRL...Wish you many, many more years of success. (and success to Mad Cow Press which hits when Iron is Hot???) A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
