Re: New logo?
Hi, I've been thinking -- whatever the animal (owl, or not), it would be really cool if it's wearing some sort of super-hero outfit with the letter M. After all, it's been Maven that has brought super-powers (and order) to our builds... :-) Just my my proposal... Cheers, Martin On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:22 AM, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org wrote: Will the graphic be in PNG format so the shotgun stomach can be transparent.? Cheers, Paul On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: I like the owl, but why not just make the body a solid color? To me it now looks like one of those fancy “haircuts’ people get where they have something shaved into their head. Ralph On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:43 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Stop calling Couché-tard shotgun owl! Does this make it clearer that it's a feather patch: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-4-large.png On 19 November 2014 21:19, Dan Rollo danro...@gmail.com wrote: Looks great! Before reading the comet below, I had the same “shotgun” thought about the white chest patch. Would it help if the white oval moved up, and started at the scarf? (Basically the top of the oval hidden under the scarf?) Understood about the “design by committee”. Dan From: Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: New logo? Date: November 19, 2014 at 12:49:59 PM EST To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org I like it. Cute but resolute birdy, and the font looks fresh and modern. But wait - did someone shoot a hole right through the owl? You can even see the shadow behind it. ;-) Maybe the patch in the middle could be a little darker, perhaps with a hint/tint of the surrounding colour? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
I like the owl, but why not just make the body a solid color? To me it now looks like one of those fancy “haircuts’ people get where they have something shaved into their head. Ralph On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:43 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Stop calling Couché-tard shotgun owl! Does this make it clearer that it's a feather patch: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-4-large.png On 19 November 2014 21:19, Dan Rollo danro...@gmail.com wrote: Looks great! Before reading the comet below, I had the same “shotgun” thought about the white chest patch. Would it help if the white oval moved up, and started at the scarf? (Basically the top of the oval hidden under the scarf?) Understood about the “design by committee”. Dan From: Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: New logo? Date: November 19, 2014 at 12:49:59 PM EST To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org I like it. Cute but resolute birdy, and the font looks fresh and modern. But wait - did someone shoot a hole right through the owl? You can even see the shadow behind it. ;-) Maybe the patch in the middle could be a little darker, perhaps with a hint/tint of the surrounding colour? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
Will the graphic be in PNG format so the shotgun stomach can be transparent.? Cheers, Paul On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: I like the owl, but why not just make the body a solid color? To me it now looks like one of those fancy “haircuts’ people get where they have something shaved into their head. Ralph On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:43 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Stop calling Couché-tard shotgun owl! Does this make it clearer that it's a feather patch: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-4-large.png On 19 November 2014 21:19, Dan Rollo danro...@gmail.com wrote: Looks great! Before reading the comet below, I had the same “shotgun” thought about the white chest patch. Would it help if the white oval moved up, and started at the scarf? (Basically the top of the oval hidden under the scarf?) Understood about the “design by committee”. Dan From: Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: New logo? Date: November 19, 2014 at 12:49:59 PM EST To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org I like it. Cute but resolute birdy, and the font looks fresh and modern. But wait - did someone shoot a hole right through the owl? You can even see the shadow behind it. ;-) Maybe the patch in the middle could be a little darker, perhaps with a hint/tint of the surrounding colour? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
On Saturday, November 22, 2014, Chris Graham chrisgw...@gmail.com wrote: Chiming in late here. Where does Couché-tard come from and what does it mean? How is it relevant? Couché-tard is the French nickname for an owl, literal meaning is sleeps late I read one of Stephen's earlier posts where the colourisation V was questions. Stephen's response was the wrong one: Would you prefer the A? My response is: why colourise or stress any of them? I don't get the significance. We have a logo that currently stresses the a for - from my perspective - no reason at all. If we ditch all stress then we have little continuity of the existing brand Thus for continuity I favour stressing one letter, and because this is v3 of our logo I choose the 3rd letter and v for version ;-) (real reason is I think the v looks better) On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Stop calling Couché-tard shotgun owl! Does this make it clearer that it's a feather patch: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-4-large.png On 19 November 2014 21:19, Dan Rollo danro...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Looks great! Before reading the comet below, I had the same “shotgun” thought about the white chest patch. Would it help if the white oval moved up, and started at the scarf? (Basically the top of the oval hidden under the scarf?) Understood about the “design by committee”. Dan From: Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com javascript:; Subject: Re: New logo? Date: November 19, 2014 at 12:49:59 PM EST To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org javascript:; I like it. Cute but resolute birdy, and the font looks fresh and modern. But wait - did someone shoot a hole right through the owl? You can even see the shadow behind it. ;-) Maybe the patch in the middle could be a little darker, perhaps with a hint/tint of the surrounding colour? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org javascript:; -- Sent from my phone
Re: New logo?
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, November 22, 2014, Chris Graham chrisgw...@gmail.com wrote: Chiming in late here. Where does Couché-tard come from and what does it mean? How is it relevant? Couché-tard is the French nickname for an owl, literal meaning is sleeps late So, if you don't speak French, or have a classical education, you're not likely to get that. I guess, that if people are going to ask what is it, is it a good logo? And it's franco centric, wouldn't the comments about the feature and native amercian indians apply? I read one of Stephen's earlier posts where the colourisation V was questions. Stephen's response was the wrong one: Would you prefer the A? My response is: why colourise or stress any of them? I don't get the significance. We have a logo that currently stresses the a for - from my perspective - no reason at all. If we ditch all stress then we have little continuity of the existing brand The name is the brand, I doubt very much that anyone would place undue attention on a stressed a or v. Thus for continuity I favour stressing one letter, and because this is v3 of our logo I choose the 3rd letter and v for version ;-) (real reason is I think the v looks better) Than a 'a', yes. Agreed. But are we trying too hard to be too cute too cleaver? On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Stop calling Couché-tard shotgun owl! Does this make it clearer that it's a feather patch: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-4-large.png On 19 November 2014 21:19, Dan Rollo danro...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Looks great! Before reading the comet below, I had the same “shotgun” thought about the white chest patch. Would it help if the white oval moved up, and started at the scarf? (Basically the top of the oval hidden under the scarf?) Understood about the “design by committee”. Dan From: Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com javascript:; Subject: Re: New logo? Date: November 19, 2014 at 12:49:59 PM EST To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org javascript:; I like it. Cute but resolute birdy, and the font looks fresh and modern. But wait - did someone shoot a hole right through the owl? You can even see the shadow behind it. ;-) Maybe the patch in the middle could be a little darker, perhaps with a hint/tint of the surrounding colour? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org javascript:; -- Sent from my phone
Re: New logo?
On Saturday, 22 November 2014, Chris Graham chrisgw...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: On Saturday, November 22, 2014, Chris Graham chrisgw...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Chiming in late here. Where does Couché-tard come from and what does it mean? How is it relevant? Couché-tard is the French nickname for an owl, literal meaning is sleeps late So, if you don't speak French, or have a classical education, you're not likely to get that. I guess, that if people are going to ask what is it, is it a good logo? And it's franco centric, wouldn't the comments about the feature and native amercian indians apply? As I said on the discuss thread, it's just the name I gave to my drawing, if adopted I'll let the community decide the name for the community's mascot... Jeesh wtf I read one of Stephen's earlier posts where the colourisation V was questions. Stephen's response was the wrong one: Would you prefer the A? My response is: why colourise or stress any of them? I don't get the significance. We have a logo that currently stresses the a for - from my perspective - no reason at all. If we ditch all stress then we have little continuity of the existing brand The name is the brand, I doubt very much that anyone would place undue attention on a stressed a or v. Thus for continuity I favour stressing one letter, and because this is v3 of our logo I choose the 3rd letter and v for version ;-) (real reason is I think the v looks better) Than a 'a', yes. Agreed. But are we trying too hard to be too cute too cleaver? I don't think so... But this is what the discuss thread is for... Btw why are we having thus here and not there? On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; javascript:; wrote: Stop calling Couché-tard shotgun owl! Does this make it clearer that it's a feather patch: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-4-large.png On 19 November 2014 21:19, Dan Rollo danro...@gmail.com javascript:; javascript:; wrote: Looks great! Before reading the comet below, I had the same “shotgun” thought about the white chest patch. Would it help if the white oval moved up, and started at the scarf? (Basically the top of the oval hidden under the scarf?) Understood about the “design by committee”. Dan From: Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com javascript:; javascript:; Subject: Re: New logo? Date: November 19, 2014 at 12:49:59 PM EST To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org javascript:; javascript:; I like it. Cute but resolute birdy, and the font looks fresh and modern. But wait - did someone shoot a hole right through the owl? You can even see the shadow behind it. ;-) Maybe the patch in the middle could be a little darker, perhaps with a hint/tint of the surrounding colour? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org javascript:; javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org javascript:; javascript:; -- Sent from my phone -- Sent from my phone
Re: New logo?
This looks really funny, not bad :) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-21-in-context.png What I like the way how you created the title from pictures. It's a bit crazy picture but still better than a pure picture standing in front of the title. - BR, tibor17 -- View this message in context: http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/New-logo-tp5778560p5814976.html Sent from the Maven Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
The background picture can be something what represents Maven project. The sitting person with a computer might be changed to something like this (as a vision): http://www.posterus.sk/burza_prace.png I can see a flow of phases in life cycle, unique structures and project or POM. Some kind of these words in white loop in the picture, so that the men is pointing to one phase. Perhaps something like this, i guess. - BR, tibor17 -- View this message in context: http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/New-logo-tp5778560p5814980.html Sent from the Maven Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
I was quite proud of my teepees, but there was a lot of concern that the imagery was too native american and that the ASF should try not to lean on native american imagery for its projects... I hope to be able to use them for a personal project someday! On 21 November 2014 13:43, tibor17 tibo...@lycos.com wrote: This looks really funny, not bad :) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-21-in-context.png What I like the way how you created the title from pictures. It's a bit crazy picture but still better than a pure picture standing in front of the title. - BR, tibor17 -- View this message in context: http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/New-logo-tp5778560p5814976.html Sent from the Maven Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
Chiming in late here. Where does Couché-tard come from and what does it mean? How is it relevant? I read one of Stephen's earlier posts where the colourisation V was questions. Stephen's response was the wrong one: Would you prefer the A? My response is: why colourise or stress any of them? I don't get the significance. On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Stop calling Couché-tard shotgun owl! Does this make it clearer that it's a feather patch: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-4-large.png On 19 November 2014 21:19, Dan Rollo danro...@gmail.com wrote: Looks great! Before reading the comet below, I had the same “shotgun” thought about the white chest patch. Would it help if the white oval moved up, and started at the scarf? (Basically the top of the oval hidden under the scarf?) Understood about the “design by committee”. Dan From: Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: New logo? Date: November 19, 2014 at 12:49:59 PM EST To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org I like it. Cute but resolute birdy, and the font looks fresh and modern. But wait - did someone shoot a hole right through the owl? You can even see the shadow behind it. ;-) Maybe the patch in the middle could be a little darker, perhaps with a hint/tint of the surrounding colour? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
Stop calling Couché-tard shotgun owl! Does this make it clearer that it's a feather patch: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-4-large.png On 19 November 2014 21:19, Dan Rollo danro...@gmail.com wrote: Looks great! Before reading the comet below, I had the same “shotgun” thought about the white chest patch. Would it help if the white oval moved up, and started at the scarf? (Basically the top of the oval hidden under the scarf?) Understood about the “design by committee”. Dan From: Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: New logo? Date: November 19, 2014 at 12:49:59 PM EST To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org I like it. Cute but resolute birdy, and the font looks fresh and modern. But wait - did someone shoot a hole right through the owl? You can even see the shadow behind it. ;-) Maybe the patch in the middle could be a little darker, perhaps with a hint/tint of the surrounding colour? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
I showed the latest pic for a fellow developer (who hasn't seen the earlier ones) and he said he thinks it looks like the bird's been shot. So the shotgun owl is probably the nickname we will have to live with. :-) But I want to stress that I think it's great work you're doing! /Anders On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Stop calling Couché-tard shotgun owl! Does this make it clearer that it's a feather patch: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-4-large.png On 19 November 2014 21:19, Dan Rollo danro...@gmail.com wrote: Looks great! Before reading the comet below, I had the same “shotgun” thought about the white chest patch. Would it help if the white oval moved up, and started at the scarf? (Basically the top of the oval hidden under the scarf?) Understood about the “design by committee”. Dan From: Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: New logo? Date: November 19, 2014 at 12:49:59 PM EST To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org I like it. Cute but resolute birdy, and the font looks fresh and modern. But wait - did someone shoot a hole right through the owl? You can even see the shadow behind it. ;-) Maybe the patch in the middle could be a little darker, perhaps with a hint/tint of the surrounding colour? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
Well how does http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-5-large.png play out? (where I remove the emphasis on the feather outlines and use the inner body for the inner colour... note that we need to switch away from red as a central red section just looks like blood) On 20 November 2014 09:57, Anders Hammar and...@hammar.net wrote: I showed the latest pic for a fellow developer (who hasn't seen the earlier ones) and he said he thinks it looks like the bird's been shot. So the shotgun owl is probably the nickname we will have to live with. :-) But I want to stress that I think it's great work you're doing! /Anders On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Stop calling Couché-tard shotgun owl! Does this make it clearer that it's a feather patch: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-4-large.png On 19 November 2014 21:19, Dan Rollo danro...@gmail.com wrote: Looks great! Before reading the comet below, I had the same “shotgun” thought about the white chest patch. Would it help if the white oval moved up, and started at the scarf? (Basically the top of the oval hidden under the scarf?) Understood about the “design by committee”. Dan From: Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: New logo? Date: November 19, 2014 at 12:49:59 PM EST To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org I like it. Cute but resolute birdy, and the font looks fresh and modern. But wait - did someone shoot a hole right through the owl? You can even see the shadow behind it. ;-) Maybe the patch in the middle could be a little darker, perhaps with a hint/tint of the surrounding colour? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
Thumbs up from my fellow developer! I'll miss the nick name though...:-) /A On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Well how does http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-5-large.png play out? (where I remove the emphasis on the feather outlines and use the inner body for the inner colour... note that we need to switch away from red as a central red section just looks like blood) On 20 November 2014 09:57, Anders Hammar and...@hammar.net wrote: I showed the latest pic for a fellow developer (who hasn't seen the earlier ones) and he said he thinks it looks like the bird's been shot. So the shotgun owl is probably the nickname we will have to live with. :-) But I want to stress that I think it's great work you're doing! /Anders On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Stop calling Couché-tard shotgun owl! Does this make it clearer that it's a feather patch: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-4-large.png On 19 November 2014 21:19, Dan Rollo danro...@gmail.com wrote: Looks great! Before reading the comet below, I had the same “shotgun” thought about the white chest patch. Would it help if the white oval moved up, and started at the scarf? (Basically the top of the oval hidden under the scarf?) Understood about the “design by committee”. Dan From: Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: New logo? Date: November 19, 2014 at 12:49:59 PM EST To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org I like it. Cute but resolute birdy, and the font looks fresh and modern. But wait - did someone shoot a hole right through the owl? You can even see the shadow behind it. ;-) Maybe the patch in the middle could be a little darker, perhaps with a hint/tint of the surrounding colour? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
Love it! From: Anders Hammar and...@hammar.net Subject: Re: New logo? Date: November 20, 2014 at 5:44:51 AM EST To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org Thumbs up from my fellow developer! I'll miss the nick name though...:-) /A On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Well how does http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-5-large.png play out? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
I know this kind of fell to the floor... So here's an attempt at a reboot. A Maven is an expert or connoisseur The couché tard is considered to be a wise creature... perhaps it sleeps in while downloading the interwebs... you should not ignore their cute looks either, if crossed they may bite and leave you in pain... So without further delay I present a suggestion for our mascot and a refreshed logo http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl.png Using the Alte Haas Grotesk Bold font with italic applied from inkscape logo. The middle v is changed to the red of the mascot. On 16 December 2013 22:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I have been playing with reworking our front page...[image: Inline images 1] I think the fluido skin is a big improvement, I would like to switch to that... Only problem I see is that our current logo(s) are very tied to the old look and feel... So do we want to see about launching a logo competition. TomEE had good success with theirs. Also I'm looking at going with the top-menu version of fluido skin rather than the left menu... I have a solution to the hidden nature... but you'll just have to wait until I sync up with Hervé to find a way to get it pushed to staging from a branch without blowing up the production site to see my trickery! -Stephen
Re: New logo?
I love. Thx a lot for this new contribution ! On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I know this kind of fell to the floor... So here's an attempt at a reboot. A Maven is an expert or connoisseur The couché tard is considered to be a wise creature... perhaps it sleeps in while downloading the interwebs... you should not ignore their cute looks either, if crossed they may bite and leave you in pain... So without further delay I present a suggestion for our mascot and a refreshed logo http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl.png Using the Alte Haas Grotesk Bold font with italic applied from inkscape logo. The middle v is changed to the red of the mascot. On 16 December 2013 22:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I have been playing with reworking our front page...[image: Inline images 1] I think the fluido skin is a big improvement, I would like to switch to that... Only problem I see is that our current logo(s) are very tied to the old look and feel... So do we want to see about launching a logo competition. TomEE had good success with theirs. Also I'm looking at going with the top-menu version of fluido skin rather than the left menu... I have a solution to the hidden nature... but you'll just have to wait until I sync up with Hervé to find a way to get it pushed to staging from a branch without blowing up the production site to see my trickery! -Stephen -- - Arnaud Héritier http://aheritier.net Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype : aheritier
Re: New logo?
I like it. Cute but resolute birdy, and the font looks fresh and modern. But wait - did someone shoot a hole right through the owl? You can even see the shadow behind it. ;-) Maybe the patch in the middle could be a little darker, perhaps with a hint/tint of the surrounding colour? 2014-11-19 18:19 GMT+01:00 Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com: I love. Thx a lot for this new contribution ! On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I know this kind of fell to the floor... So here's an attempt at a reboot. A Maven is an expert or connoisseur The couché tard is considered to be a wise creature... perhaps it sleeps in while downloading the interwebs... you should not ignore their cute looks either, if crossed they may bite and leave you in pain... So without further delay I present a suggestion for our mascot and a refreshed logo http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl.png Using the Alte Haas Grotesk Bold font with italic applied from inkscape logo. The middle v is changed to the red of the mascot. On 16 December 2013 22:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I have been playing with reworking our front page...[image: Inline images 1] I think the fluido skin is a big improvement, I would like to switch to that... Only problem I see is that our current logo(s) are very tied to the old look and feel... So do we want to see about launching a logo competition. TomEE had good success with theirs. Also I'm looking at going with the top-menu version of fluido skin rather than the left menu... I have a solution to the hidden nature... but you'll just have to wait until I sync up with Hervé to find a way to get it pushed to staging from a branch without blowing up the production site to see my trickery! -Stephen -- - Arnaud Héritier http://aheritier.net Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype : aheritier
Re: New logo?
Awesome work :) However, I have always pictured Maven as an anteater :)) 2014-11-19 19:49 GMT+02:00 Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com: I like it. Cute but resolute birdy, and the font looks fresh and modern. But wait - did someone shoot a hole right through the owl? You can even see the shadow behind it. ;-) Maybe the patch in the middle could be a little darker, perhaps with a hint/tint of the surrounding colour? 2014-11-19 18:19 GMT+01:00 Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com: I love. Thx a lot for this new contribution ! On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I know this kind of fell to the floor... So here's an attempt at a reboot. A Maven is an expert or connoisseur The couché tard is considered to be a wise creature... perhaps it sleeps in while downloading the interwebs... you should not ignore their cute looks either, if crossed they may bite and leave you in pain... So without further delay I present a suggestion for our mascot and a refreshed logo http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl.png Using the Alte Haas Grotesk Bold font with italic applied from inkscape logo. The middle v is changed to the red of the mascot. On 16 December 2013 22:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I have been playing with reworking our front page...[image: Inline images 1] I think the fluido skin is a big improvement, I would like to switch to that... Only problem I see is that our current logo(s) are very tied to the old look and feel... So do we want to see about launching a logo competition. TomEE had good success with theirs. Also I'm looking at going with the top-menu version of fluido skin rather than the left menu... I have a solution to the hidden nature... but you'll just have to wait until I sync up with Hervé to find a way to get it pushed to staging from a branch without blowing up the production site to see my trickery! -Stephen -- - Arnaud Héritier http://aheritier.net Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype : aheritier -- Regards, Petar! Karlovo, Bulgaria. --- Public PGP Key at: https://keyserver1.pgp.com/vkd/DownloadKey.event?keyid=0x19658550C3110611 Key Fingerprint: A369 A7EE 61BC 93A3 CDFF 55A5 1965 8550 C311 0611
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On Wednesday, November 19, 2014, Petar Tahchiev paranoia...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome work :) However, I have always pictured Maven as an anteater :)) I know but that proposal was rejected out of concern that we would offend a fellow asf project ;-) 2014-11-19 19:49 GMT+02:00 Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com javascript:;: I like it. Cute but resolute birdy, and the font looks fresh and modern. But wait - did someone shoot a hole right through the owl? You can even see the shadow behind it. ;-) Maybe the patch in the middle could be a little darker, perhaps with a hint/tint of the surrounding colour? 2014-11-19 18:19 GMT+01:00 Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com javascript:;: I love. Thx a lot for this new contribution ! On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: I know this kind of fell to the floor... So here's an attempt at a reboot. A Maven is an expert or connoisseur The couché tard is considered to be a wise creature... perhaps it sleeps in while downloading the interwebs... you should not ignore their cute looks either, if crossed they may bite and leave you in pain... So without further delay I present a suggestion for our mascot and a refreshed logo http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl.png Using the Alte Haas Grotesk Bold font with italic applied from inkscape logo. The middle v is changed to the red of the mascot. On 16 December 2013 22:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: I have been playing with reworking our front page...[image: Inline images 1] I think the fluido skin is a big improvement, I would like to switch to that... Only problem I see is that our current logo(s) are very tied to the old look and feel... So do we want to see about launching a logo competition. TomEE had good success with theirs. Also I'm looking at going with the top-menu version of fluido skin rather than the left menu... I have a solution to the hidden nature... but you'll just have to wait until I sync up with Hervé to find a way to get it pushed to staging from a branch without blowing up the production site to see my trickery! -Stephen -- - Arnaud Héritier http://aheritier.net Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype : aheritier -- Regards, Petar! Karlovo, Bulgaria. --- Public PGP Key at: https://keyserver1.pgp.com/vkd/DownloadKey.event?keyid=0x19658550C3110611 Key Fingerprint: A369 A7EE 61BC 93A3 CDFF 55A5 1965 8550 C311 0611 -- Sent from my phone
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On Wednesday, November 19, 2014, Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com wrote: I like it. Cute but resolute birdy, and the font looks fresh and modern. But wait - did someone shoot a hole right through the owl? You can even see the shadow behind it. ;-) Maybe the patch in the middle could be a little darker, perhaps with a hint/tint of the surrounding colour? There is a shadow at the front cast by the belly. I don't believe in design by committee but if people really agree I could tint the front feather patch ever so slightly off white 2014-11-19 18:19 GMT+01:00 Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com javascript:;: I love. Thx a lot for this new contribution ! On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: I know this kind of fell to the floor... So here's an attempt at a reboot. A Maven is an expert or connoisseur The couché tard is considered to be a wise creature... perhaps it sleeps in while downloading the interwebs... you should not ignore their cute looks either, if crossed they may bite and leave you in pain... So without further delay I present a suggestion for our mascot and a refreshed logo http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl.png Using the Alte Haas Grotesk Bold font with italic applied from inkscape logo. The middle v is changed to the red of the mascot. On 16 December 2013 22:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: I have been playing with reworking our front page...[image: Inline images 1] I think the fluido skin is a big improvement, I would like to switch to that... Only problem I see is that our current logo(s) are very tied to the old look and feel... So do we want to see about launching a logo competition. TomEE had good success with theirs. Also I'm looking at going with the top-menu version of fluido skin rather than the left menu... I have a solution to the hidden nature... but you'll just have to wait until I sync up with Hervé to find a way to get it pushed to staging from a branch without blowing up the production site to see my trickery! -Stephen -- - Arnaud Héritier http://aheritier.net Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype : aheritier -- Sent from my phone
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I agree: http://www.meemes.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/Angry-Anteater-Come-at-me-Bro-Funny-meme-_0.jpg?itok=95uxff5F On Nov 19, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Petar Tahchiev paranoia...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome work :) However, I have always pictured Maven as an anteater :)) 2014-11-19 19:49 GMT+02:00 Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com: I like it. Cute but resolute birdy, and the font looks fresh and modern. But wait - did someone shoot a hole right through the owl? You can even see the shadow behind it. ;-) Maybe the patch in the middle could be a little darker, perhaps with a hint/tint of the surrounding colour? 2014-11-19 18:19 GMT+01:00 Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com: I love. Thx a lot for this new contribution ! On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I know this kind of fell to the floor... So here's an attempt at a reboot. A Maven is an expert or connoisseur The couché tard is considered to be a wise creature... perhaps it sleeps in while downloading the interwebs... you should not ignore their cute looks either, if crossed they may bite and leave you in pain... So without further delay I present a suggestion for our mascot and a refreshed logo http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl.png Using the Alte Haas Grotesk Bold font with italic applied from inkscape logo. The middle v is changed to the red of the mascot. On 16 December 2013 22:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I have been playing with reworking our front page...[image: Inline images 1] I think the fluido skin is a big improvement, I would like to switch to that... Only problem I see is that our current logo(s) are very tied to the old look and feel... So do we want to see about launching a logo competition. TomEE had good success with theirs. Also I'm looking at going with the top-menu version of fluido skin rather than the left menu... I have a solution to the hidden nature... but you'll just have to wait until I sync up with Hervé to find a way to get it pushed to staging from a branch without blowing up the production site to see my trickery! -Stephen -- - Arnaud Héritier http://aheritier.net Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype : aheritier -- Regards, Petar! Karlovo, Bulgaria. --- Public PGP Key at: https://keyserver1.pgp.com/vkd/DownloadKey.event?keyid=0x19658550C3110611 Key Fingerprint: A369 A7EE 61BC 93A3 CDFF 55A5 1965 8550 C311 0611 Thanks, Jason -- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl http://twitter.com/takari_io - To think is easy. To act is hard. But the hardest thing in the world is to act in accordance with your thinking. -- Johann von Goethe
Re: New logo?
Slight tweak on the belly feather colour... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-2.png Here are some action shots also: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-2-large.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-2-large-in-flight.png On 19 November 2014 18:29, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, November 19, 2014, Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com wrote: I like it. Cute but resolute birdy, and the font looks fresh and modern. But wait - did someone shoot a hole right through the owl? You can even see the shadow behind it. ;-) Maybe the patch in the middle could be a little darker, perhaps with a hint/tint of the surrounding colour? There is a shadow at the front cast by the belly. I don't believe in design by committee but if people really agree I could tint the front feather patch ever so slightly off white 2014-11-19 18:19 GMT+01:00 Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com: I love. Thx a lot for this new contribution ! On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I know this kind of fell to the floor... So here's an attempt at a reboot. A Maven is an expert or connoisseur The couché tard is considered to be a wise creature... perhaps it sleeps in while downloading the interwebs... you should not ignore their cute looks either, if crossed they may bite and leave you in pain... So without further delay I present a suggestion for our mascot and a refreshed logo http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl.png Using the Alte Haas Grotesk Bold font with italic applied from inkscape logo. The middle v is changed to the red of the mascot. On 16 December 2013 22:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I have been playing with reworking our front page...[image: Inline images 1] I think the fluido skin is a big improvement, I would like to switch to that... Only problem I see is that our current logo(s) are very tied to the old look and feel... So do we want to see about launching a logo competition. TomEE had good success with theirs. Also I'm looking at going with the top-menu version of fluido skin rather than the left menu... I have a solution to the hidden nature... but you'll just have to wait until I sync up with Hervé to find a way to get it pushed to staging from a branch without blowing up the production site to see my trickery! -Stephen -- - Arnaud Héritier http://aheritier.net Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype : aheritier -- Sent from my phone
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Definitely looks like an owl that someone shot with a gun. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Slight tweak on the belly feather colour... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-2.png Here are some action shots also: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-2-large.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-2-large-in-flight.png On 19 November 2014 18:29, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, November 19, 2014, Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com wrote: I like it. Cute but resolute birdy, and the font looks fresh and modern. But wait - did someone shoot a hole right through the owl? You can even see the shadow behind it. ;-) Maybe the patch in the middle could be a little darker, perhaps with a hint/tint of the surrounding colour? There is a shadow at the front cast by the belly. I don't believe in design by committee but if people really agree I could tint the front feather patch ever so slightly off white 2014-11-19 18:19 GMT+01:00 Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com: I love. Thx a lot for this new contribution ! On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I know this kind of fell to the floor... So here's an attempt at a reboot. A Maven is an expert or connoisseur The couché tard is considered to be a wise creature... perhaps it sleeps in while downloading the interwebs... you should not ignore their cute looks either, if crossed they may bite and leave you in pain... So without further delay I present a suggestion for our mascot and a refreshed logo http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl.png Using the Alte Haas Grotesk Bold font with italic applied from inkscape logo. The middle v is changed to the red of the mascot. On 16 December 2013 22:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I have been playing with reworking our front page...[image: Inline images 1] I think the fluido skin is a big improvement, I would like to switch to that... Only problem I see is that our current logo(s) are very tied to the old look and feel... So do we want to see about launching a logo competition. TomEE had good success with theirs. Also I'm looking at going with the top-menu version of fluido skin rather than the left menu... I have a solution to the hidden nature... but you'll just have to wait until I sync up with Hervé to find a way to get it pushed to staging from a branch without blowing up the production site to see my trickery! -Stephen -- - Arnaud Héritier http://aheritier.net Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype : aheritier -- Sent from my phone
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There's no pleasing the critics... Mind you if that's your only complaint I think we have a winner! On Wednesday, November 19, 2014, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely looks like an owl that someone shot with a gun. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Slight tweak on the belly feather colour... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-2.png Here are some action shots also: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-2-large.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-2-large-in-flight.png On 19 November 2014 18:29, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: On Wednesday, November 19, 2014, Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: I like it. Cute but resolute birdy, and the font looks fresh and modern. But wait - did someone shoot a hole right through the owl? You can even see the shadow behind it. ;-) Maybe the patch in the middle could be a little darker, perhaps with a hint/tint of the surrounding colour? There is a shadow at the front cast by the belly. I don't believe in design by committee but if people really agree I could tint the front feather patch ever so slightly off white 2014-11-19 18:19 GMT+01:00 Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com javascript:;: I love. Thx a lot for this new contribution ! On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: I know this kind of fell to the floor... So here's an attempt at a reboot. A Maven is an expert or connoisseur The couché tard is considered to be a wise creature... perhaps it sleeps in while downloading the interwebs... you should not ignore their cute looks either, if crossed they may bite and leave you in pain... So without further delay I present a suggestion for our mascot and a refreshed logo http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl.png Using the Alte Haas Grotesk Bold font with italic applied from inkscape logo. The middle v is changed to the red of the mascot. On 16 December 2013 22:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: I have been playing with reworking our front page...[image: Inline images 1] I think the fluido skin is a big improvement, I would like to switch to that... Only problem I see is that our current logo(s) are very tied to the old look and feel... So do we want to see about launching a logo competition. TomEE had good success with theirs. Also I'm looking at going with the top-menu version of fluido skin rather than the left menu... I have a solution to the hidden nature... but you'll just have to wait until I sync up with Hervé to find a way to get it pushed to staging from a branch without blowing up the production site to see my trickery! -Stephen -- - Arnaud Héritier http://aheritier.net Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype : aheritier -- Sent from my phone -- Sent from my phone
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I like the shotgun owl and the whole shotgun logo. Maybe we could add a smoking shotgun somewhere there ? (Leaning on the n ? One of the legs of the M ?) I'm thinking DOOM style shotgun, not a BFG9000. Kristian 2014-11-19 21:40 GMT+01:00 Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com: There's no pleasing the critics... Mind you if that's your only complaint I think we have a winner! On Wednesday, November 19, 2014, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely looks like an owl that someone shot with a gun. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Slight tweak on the belly feather colour... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-2.png Here are some action shots also: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-2-large.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-2-large-in-flight.png On 19 November 2014 18:29, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: On Wednesday, November 19, 2014, Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: I like it. Cute but resolute birdy, and the font looks fresh and modern. But wait - did someone shoot a hole right through the owl? You can even see the shadow behind it. ;-) Maybe the patch in the middle could be a little darker, perhaps with a hint/tint of the surrounding colour? There is a shadow at the front cast by the belly. I don't believe in design by committee but if people really agree I could tint the front feather patch ever so slightly off white 2014-11-19 18:19 GMT+01:00 Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com javascript:;: I love. Thx a lot for this new contribution ! On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: I know this kind of fell to the floor... So here's an attempt at a reboot. A Maven is an expert or connoisseur The couché tard is considered to be a wise creature... perhaps it sleeps in while downloading the interwebs... you should not ignore their cute looks either, if crossed they may bite and leave you in pain... So without further delay I present a suggestion for our mascot and a refreshed logo http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl.png Using the Alte Haas Grotesk Bold font with italic applied from inkscape logo. The middle v is changed to the red of the mascot. On 16 December 2013 22:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: I have been playing with reworking our front page...[image: Inline images 1] I think the fluido skin is a big improvement, I would like to switch to that... Only problem I see is that our current logo(s) are very tied to the old look and feel... So do we want to see about launching a logo competition. TomEE had good success with theirs. Also I'm looking at going with the top-menu version of fluido skin rather than the left menu... I have a solution to the hidden nature... but you'll just have to wait until I sync up with Hervé to find a way to get it pushed to staging from a branch without blowing up the production site to see my trickery! -Stephen -- - Arnaud Héritier http://aheritier.net Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype : aheritier -- Sent from my phone -- Sent from my phone - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
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Looks great! Before reading the comet below, I had the same “shotgun” thought about the white chest patch. Would it help if the white oval moved up, and started at the scarf? (Basically the top of the oval hidden under the scarf?) Understood about the “design by committee”. Dan From: Andreas Gudian andreas.gud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: New logo? Date: November 19, 2014 at 12:49:59 PM EST To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org I like it. Cute but resolute birdy, and the font looks fresh and modern. But wait - did someone shoot a hole right through the owl? You can even see the shadow behind it. ;-) Maybe the patch in the middle could be a little darker, perhaps with a hint/tint of the surrounding colour? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
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I'm a bit late to catch up with this, but had a few things to note as I read through the thread - sorry to top-top-reply. I agree we should definitely consider a logo competition to augment this set of contributions. We should be cautious about using images from Native American culture - there are some good guidelines in previous contests: http://wiki.apache.org/solr/LogoContest Please consider a logo that either looks good in a square graphic, or has a reasonable variant that can! Think what you'd want to see in a favicon, or github/twitter/facebook/gravatar for the project. I know in the past the m has been used, but never felt like it was a very strong association. And I'm glad to see the back of the guy from the stock photo on the website (pun intended). - Brett On 17 Dec 2013, at 9:35 am, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I have been playing with reworking our front page... I think the fluido skin is a big improvement, I would like to switch to that... Only problem I see is that our current logo(s) are very tied to the old look and feel... So do we want to see about launching a logo competition. TomEE had good success with theirs. Also I'm looking at going with the top-menu version of fluido skin rather than the left menu... I have a solution to the hidden nature... but you'll just have to wait until I sync up with Hervé to find a way to get it pushed to staging from a branch without blowing up the production site to see my trickery! -Stephen
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As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present maven-18: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695623134api=v2 On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle. Without hesitation, she said Honey Badger When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will get really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven. It works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you will feel its wrath :) Heh. Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot. On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, Kristian Rosenvold kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com wrote: I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are typically related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than which particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of input along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss prefers blue). When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for customizing what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations to a mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making individual processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a conveyor-belt mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt process, stopping at individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think of a waterfall (Uh-oh...) So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all ! Kristian 2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood mw...@iupui.edu On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote: All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of the project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both. Good point. I was associating with the name Maven, looking for a symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified configuration of runnable code. What does that look like? -- Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mw...@iupui.edu Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee pees... linking in with the Apache theme... So I present maven-19: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695638903api=v2 and finding a use for the feather maven-20: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695654233api=v2 On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present maven-18: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695623134api=v2 On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle. Without hesitation, she said Honey Badger When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will get really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven. It works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you will feel its wrath :) Heh. Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot. On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, Kristian Rosenvold kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com wrote: I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are typically related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than which particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of input along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss prefers blue). When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for customizing what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations to a mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making individual processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a conveyor-belt mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt process, stopping at individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think of a waterfall (Uh-oh...) So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all ! Kristian 2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood mw...@iupui.edu On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote: All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of the project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both. Good point. I was associating with the name Maven, looking for a symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified configuration of runnable code. What does that look like? -- Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mw...@iupui.edu Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
FYI: ndeloof points out http://raven.rubyforge.org/ So I think any logo with a raven in it is well and truly dead in the water On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee pees... linking in with the Apache theme... So I present maven-19: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695638903api=v2 and finding a use for the feather maven-20: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695654233api=v2 On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present maven-18: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695623134api=v2 On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle. Without hesitation, she said Honey Badger When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will get really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven. It works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you will feel its wrath :) Heh. Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot. On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, Kristian Rosenvold kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com wrote: I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are typically related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than which particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of input along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss prefers blue). When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for customizing what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations to a mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making individual processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a conveyor-belt mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt process, stopping at individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think of a waterfall (Uh-oh...) So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all ! Kristian 2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood mw...@iupui.edu On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote: All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of the project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both. Good point. I was associating with the name Maven, looking for a symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified configuration of runnable code. What does that look like? -- Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mw...@iupui.edu Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
Putting maven-20 in context, you get: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee pees... linking in with the Apache theme... So I present maven-19: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695638903api=v2 and finding a use for the feather maven-20: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695654233api=v2 On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present maven-18: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695623134api=v2 On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle. Without hesitation, she said Honey Badger When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will get really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven. It works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you will feel its wrath :) Heh. Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot. On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, Kristian Rosenvold kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com wrote: I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are typically related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than which particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of input along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss prefers blue). When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for customizing what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations to a mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making individual processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a conveyor-belt mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt process, stopping at individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think of a waterfall (Uh-oh...) So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all ! Kristian 2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood mw...@iupui.edu On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote: All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of the project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both. Good point. I was associating with the name Maven, looking for a symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified configuration of runnable code. What does that look like? -- Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mw...@iupui.edu Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
I thought a hand-drawn font using straight lines only might look good with the teepee maven-21: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-21.png?version=1modificationDate=1389701827196api=v2 On 14 January 2014 12:08, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: Putting maven-20 in context, you get: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee pees... linking in with the Apache theme... So I present maven-19: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695638903api=v2 and finding a use for the feather maven-20: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695654233api=v2 On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present maven-18: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695623134api=v2 On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle. Without hesitation, she said Honey Badger When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will get really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven. It works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you will feel its wrath :) Heh. Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot. On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, Kristian Rosenvold kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com wrote: I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are typically related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than which particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of input along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss prefers blue). When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for customizing what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations to a mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making individual processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a conveyor-belt mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt process, stopping at individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think of a waterfall (Uh-oh...) So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all ! Kristian 2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood mw...@iupui.edu On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote: All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of the project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both. Good point. I was associating with the name Maven, looking for a symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified configuration of runnable code. What does that look like? -- Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mw...@iupui.edu Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
That looks really nice (though I do have problems with any North American Indian references). cheers TimP On 14 January 2014 12:08, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Putting maven-20 in context, you get: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee pees... linking in with the Apache theme... So I present maven-19: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695638903api=v2 and finding a use for the feather maven-20: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695654233api=v2 On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present maven-18: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695623134api=v2 On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle. Without hesitation, she said Honey Badger When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will get really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven. It works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you will feel its wrath :) Heh. Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot. On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, Kristian Rosenvold kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com wrote: I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are typically related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than which particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of input along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss prefers blue). When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for customizing what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations to a mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making individual processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a conveyor-belt mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt process, stopping at individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think of a waterfall (Uh-oh...) So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all ! Kristian 2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood mw...@iupui.edu On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote: All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of the project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both. Good point. I was associating with the name Maven, looking for a symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified configuration of runnable code. What does that look like? -- Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mw...@iupui.edu Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org -- Tim Pizey http://pizey.net/~timp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
We are Apache Maven so there is always going to be that temptation to abuse the Apache link... I would like to hear more about your objections. Keep in mind that ultimately it will come down to a vote... I'm thinking we have two rounds of voting... the first round to select the top 3 and the second round to select the winner... WIth the above scheme I would plan on having a healthy discussion of the top 3 candidates in case any are deemed inappropriate, i.e. the PMC will reserve the right to veto any that it deems inappropriate, substituting with the next most popular. Then the winner will be an open vote from the 3 finalists... Or at least that is my plan So far we have about 8 ideas... * The moose with the internet in his hand * The owl * The assembly line * The honey badger * The two yurts in a native american style * The twin peaks * The fedora as an M (likely too close to redhat... so not counting for now) * A simple lettering with a monochrome feather * A stylized lettering with the feather as a y If we get to about 15-20 ideas and/or there seems to be a stop to the flow of new ideas, then I will probably call the first round of voting... On 14 January 2014 12:19, Tim Pizey t...@paneris.org wrote: That looks really nice (though I do have problems with any North American Indian references). cheers TimP On 14 January 2014 12:08, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Putting maven-20 in context, you get: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee pees... linking in with the Apache theme... So I present maven-19: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695638903api=v2 and finding a use for the feather maven-20: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695654233api=v2 On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present maven-18: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695623134api=v2 On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle. Without hesitation, she said Honey Badger When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will get really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven. It works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you will feel its wrath :) Heh. Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot. On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, Kristian Rosenvold kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com wrote: I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are typically related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than which particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of input along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss prefers blue). When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for customizing what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations to a mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making individual processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a conveyor-belt mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt process, stopping at individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think of a waterfall (Uh-oh...) So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all ! Kristian 2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood mw...@iupui.edu On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote: All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of the project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both. Good point. I was associating with the name Maven, looking for a symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression
Re: New logo?
Does the Apache Foundation of any of its members have any money to engage a graphical designer? I was just thinking that after the voting, you could get a designer to do a proper job on the logo (perhaps producing some variations of the voted on design which could again be voted on further?). I do not mean any offence to everyone that submitted designs, but clearly we are not professional artists ;-) On 14 January 2014 12:40, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: We are Apache Maven so there is always going to be that temptation to abuse the Apache link... I would like to hear more about your objections. Keep in mind that ultimately it will come down to a vote... I'm thinking we have two rounds of voting... the first round to select the top 3 and the second round to select the winner... WIth the above scheme I would plan on having a healthy discussion of the top 3 candidates in case any are deemed inappropriate, i.e. the PMC will reserve the right to veto any that it deems inappropriate, substituting with the next most popular. Then the winner will be an open vote from the 3 finalists... Or at least that is my plan So far we have about 8 ideas... * The moose with the internet in his hand * The owl * The assembly line * The honey badger * The two yurts in a native american style * The twin peaks * The fedora as an M (likely too close to redhat... so not counting for now) * A simple lettering with a monochrome feather * A stylized lettering with the feather as a y If we get to about 15-20 ideas and/or there seems to be a stop to the flow of new ideas, then I will probably call the first round of voting... On 14 January 2014 12:19, Tim Pizey t...@paneris.org wrote: That looks really nice (though I do have problems with any North American Indian references). cheers TimP On 14 January 2014 12:08, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Putting maven-20 in context, you get: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee pees... linking in with the Apache theme... So I present maven-19: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695638903api=v2 and finding a use for the feather maven-20: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695654233api=v2 On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present maven-18: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695623134api=v2 On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle. Without hesitation, she said Honey Badger When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will get really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven. It works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you will feel its wrath :) Heh. Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot. On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, Kristian Rosenvold kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com wrote: I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are typically related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than which particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of input along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss prefers blue). When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for customizing what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations to a mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making individual processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a conveyor-belt mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt process, stopping at individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think of a waterfall (Uh-oh...) So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all ! Kristian 2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood mw...@iupui.edu On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote: All of the
Re: New logo?
I think we would have no issue getting a small amount of funding from the foundation to feed an external logo competition... but I think we would want to have some scope defined for such a competition... so yeah I see no issue with using the top 3 as seed for an external logo competition, e.g. on the site already mentioned on a previous thread... but I think we do need a spec and part of the point of this discussion is to generate such a spec. On 14 January 2014 12:45, Adam Retter adam.ret...@googlemail.com wrote: Does the Apache Foundation of any of its members have any money to engage a graphical designer? I was just thinking that after the voting, you could get a designer to do a proper job on the logo (perhaps producing some variations of the voted on design which could again be voted on further?). I do not mean any offence to everyone that submitted designs, but clearly we are not professional artists ;-) On 14 January 2014 12:40, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: We are Apache Maven so there is always going to be that temptation to abuse the Apache link... I would like to hear more about your objections. Keep in mind that ultimately it will come down to a vote... I'm thinking we have two rounds of voting... the first round to select the top 3 and the second round to select the winner... WIth the above scheme I would plan on having a healthy discussion of the top 3 candidates in case any are deemed inappropriate, i.e. the PMC will reserve the right to veto any that it deems inappropriate, substituting with the next most popular. Then the winner will be an open vote from the 3 finalists... Or at least that is my plan So far we have about 8 ideas... * The moose with the internet in his hand * The owl * The assembly line * The honey badger * The two yurts in a native american style * The twin peaks * The fedora as an M (likely too close to redhat... so not counting for now) * A simple lettering with a monochrome feather * A stylized lettering with the feather as a y If we get to about 15-20 ideas and/or there seems to be a stop to the flow of new ideas, then I will probably call the first round of voting... On 14 January 2014 12:19, Tim Pizey t...@paneris.org wrote: That looks really nice (though I do have problems with any North American Indian references). cheers TimP On 14 January 2014 12:08, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Putting maven-20 in context, you get: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee pees... linking in with the Apache theme... So I present maven-19: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695638903api=v2 and finding a use for the feather maven-20: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695654233api=v2 On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present maven-18: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695623134api=v2 On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle. Without hesitation, she said Honey Badger When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will get really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven. It works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you will feel its wrath :) Heh. Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot. On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, Kristian Rosenvold kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com wrote: I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are typically related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than which particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of input along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss prefers blue). When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
Re: New logo?
maven-21 in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-21-in-context.png On 14 January 2014 12:18, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: I thought a hand-drawn font using straight lines only might look good with the teepee maven-21: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-21.png?version=1modificationDate=1389701827196api=v2 On 14 January 2014 12:08, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Putting maven-20 in context, you get: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee pees... linking in with the Apache theme... So I present maven-19: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695638903api=v2 and finding a use for the feather maven-20: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695654233api=v2 On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present maven-18: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1modificationDate=1389695623134api=v2 On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle. Without hesitation, she said Honey Badger When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will get really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven. It works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you will feel its wrath :) Heh. Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot. On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, Kristian Rosenvold kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com wrote: I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are typically related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than which particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of input along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss prefers blue). When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for customizing what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations to a mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making individual processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a conveyor-belt mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt process, stopping at individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think of a waterfall (Uh-oh...) So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all ! Kristian 2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood mw...@iupui.edu On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote: All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of the project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both. Good point. I was associating with the name Maven, looking for a symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified configuration of runnable code. What does that look like? -- Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mw...@iupui.edu Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
Okay, so I bit the bullet and tried it. I based my examples on a Creative Commons image, but it should be fine as long as it is attributed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr_scott/4463167753/sizes/l/ http://static.adamretter.org.uk/maven-logo-example1.png and http://static.adamretter.org.uk/maven-logo-example2.png Thanks On 2 January 2014 17:52, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: So what... you cannot do worse than http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven.png On 2 January 2014 16:55, Adam Retter adam.ret...@googlemail.com wrote: I would love to, but I posses absolutely zero artistic skill. On 2 January 2014 16:28, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: how about you try sketching out what you mean! On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter adam.ret...@googlemail.com wrote: I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian coat of arms? On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying upwards and to the right. Its a moving up and to the future instead of diving down into the past kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps it can be a #15... On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called maven using a silhouetted raven... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png) On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: two more that I drew over the holidays: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png ) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png ) I really would like some contributions from the community rather than just things that I have sketched... At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note would need to check if we can use this one) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases I was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In other cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both from the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to ask permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that type of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition including a direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the raven, but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular we can look into getting the approval to use the image. If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions as I just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but hey if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be reduced to a run-off of my creations) On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png OTOH here is a different stylised version http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png Finally, here is a raven totem http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png I think this last
Re: New logo?
I would love to, but I posses absolutely zero artistic skill. On 2 January 2014 16:28, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: how about you try sketching out what you mean! On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter adam.ret...@googlemail.com wrote: I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian coat of arms? On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying upwards and to the right. Its a moving up and to the future instead of diving down into the past kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps it can be a #15... On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called maven using a silhouetted raven... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png ) On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: two more that I drew over the holidays: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png ) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png ) I really would like some contributions from the community rather than just things that I have sketched... At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note would need to check if we can use this one) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases I was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In other cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both from the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to ask permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that type of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition including a direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the raven, but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular we can look into getting the approval to use the image. If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions as I just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but hey if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be reduced to a run-off of my creations) On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png OTOH here is a different stylised version http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png Finally, here is a raven totem http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background... just haven't had time to do it On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I think we can't go with the raven http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a raven in their logo On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote: On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.com wrote: I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this looks good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it as a raven .. That¹s my
Re: New logo?
I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian coat of arms? On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying upwards and to the right. Its a moving up and to the future instead of diving down into the past kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps it can be a #15... On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called maven using a silhouetted raven... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png ) On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: two more that I drew over the holidays: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png (in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png ) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png (in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png ) I really would like some contributions from the community rather than just things that I have sketched... At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png (note would need to check if we can use this one) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases I was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In other cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both from the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to ask permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that type of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition including a direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the raven, but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular we can look into getting the approval to use the image. If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions as I just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but hey if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be reduced to a run-off of my creations) On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png OTOH here is a different stylised version http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png Finally, here is a raven totem http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background... just haven't had time to do it On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I think we can't go with the raven http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a raven in their logo On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote: On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.com wrote: I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this looks good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it as a raven .. That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all. When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part seemed to look more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird swirly thing at the ankle. In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-) Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed to these depictions a lot so I can tell. But
Re: New logo?
I think that the associations of a raven are too dark also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBmExt184vc The moose and beaver are also laden. Maybe this is why Maven has been logo free for so long? Feels really weird to add a logo to a 13? year old project. cheers Timp On 2 January 2014 15:48, Baptiste Mathus bmat...@batmat.net wrote: Oups, forgot users list. Might be just me, but though I'm not against using a raven, I'd at least prefer the more friendly 13 one (see http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png). I'm actually far more liking the friendly teddybear's style of the moose ( http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png) even if this animal might be badly connotated (not here in France, I'd say, since we're not accustomed to seeing them ;-)). The The Crow dark style isn't friendly enough, /me think. 2014/1/2 Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying upwards and to the right. Its a moving up and to the future instead of diving down into the past kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps it can be a #15... On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called maven using a silhouetted raven... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png) On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: two more that I drew over the holidays: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png ) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png ) I really would like some contributions from the community rather than just things that I have sketched... At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note would need to check if we can use this one) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases I was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In other cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both from the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to ask permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that type of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition including a direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the raven, but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular we can look into getting the approval to use the image. If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions as I just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but hey if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be reduced to a run-off of my creations) On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png OTOH here is a different stylised version http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png Finally, here is a raven totem http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background... just haven't had time to do it On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I think we can't go with the raven
Re: New logo?
On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Tim Pizey t...@paneris.org wrote: I think that the associations of a raven are too dark also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBmExt184vc The moose and beaver are also laden. Maybe this is why Maven has been logo free for so long? Feels really weird to add a logo to a 13? year old project. I think this is more due to our lack of graphic design capability than intent :-) A good designer can take the ideas of being an expert/community and likely come up with something that looks good and has some meaning. cheers Timp On 2 January 2014 15:48, Baptiste Mathus bmat...@batmat.net wrote: Oups, forgot users list. Might be just me, but though I'm not against using a raven, I'd at least prefer the more friendly 13 one (see http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png). I'm actually far more liking the friendly teddybear's style of the moose ( http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png) even if this animal might be badly connotated (not here in France, I'd say, since we're not accustomed to seeing them ;-)). The The Crow dark style isn't friendly enough, /me think. 2014/1/2 Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying upwards and to the right. Its a moving up and to the future instead of diving down into the past kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps it can be a #15... On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called maven using a silhouetted raven... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png) On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: two more that I drew over the holidays: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png ) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png ) I really would like some contributions from the community rather than just things that I have sketched... At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note would need to check if we can use this one) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases I was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In other cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both from the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to ask permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that type of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition including a direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the raven, but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular we can look into getting the approval to use the image. If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions as I just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but hey if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be reduced to a run-off of my creations) On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png OTOH here is a different stylised version http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png Finally, here is a raven totem http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background... just
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On 3 January 2014 06:22, Kristian Rosenvold kristian.rosenv...@gmail.comwrote: Am I reading this correctly if it's aboput $130 for a full logo contest including the rights for use ? Something in that range would be my reading too. (We might be able to access foundation funds if we ask the board nicely) If we can formulate some decent requirement specification, coughing up the money should be the least of our problems. Does the feather have to stay in its original shape/form? Is the logo required to be ugly ? I don't think either of these are requirements, we can have a non-ugly looking logo... though ugly is in the eye of the beholder ;-) Kristian 2014/1/2 Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org My suggestion is for someone in the PMC to pay $29 to http://www.48hourslogo.com/ and have an extraordinary number of artists show you their logo ideas. Buy the one you like and then donate it to Apache. Paul
Re: New logo?
I have created a wiki page to track the logo contest... https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Logo+contest On 2 January 2014 21:44, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: Lettering eh, how about comic sans? :) ... J/K btw Jason company might let you re-use the letting from http://blog.sonatype.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/maven1.jpg if you wanted something a little edgier and crisp. On 1/2/14 3:36 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Well our current icon is somebody's arse behind a laptop... Which with a cleaner site looks a tad odd With the old header bar it was fine though I have no issue changing the font or colouring, but I think an actual icon or emblem is something good to have. There was some effort to pick a new font, and I would be happy to see examples with a different font... My typographic skills are not near the level of my poor sketching skills, so I have been hoping somebody else could tackle the lettering On Thursday, 2 January 2014, Mark Derricutt wrote: Is it me or are a lot of these purely changing the icon, not the logo. i.e. is the logo inclusive of the mAven name ( side question - why is the A always a different colour, historic Ant reference? ) On 3 Jan 2014, at 2:18, Stephen Connolly wrote: As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called maven using a silhouetted raven... -- Sent from my phone - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
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two more that I drew over the holidays: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png (in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png (in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png) I really would like some contributions from the community rather than just things that I have sketched... At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png (note would need to check if we can use this one) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases I was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In other cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both from the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to ask permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that type of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition including a direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the raven, but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular we can look into getting the approval to use the image. If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions as I just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but hey if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be reduced to a run-off of my creations) On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png OTOH here is a different stylised version http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png Finally, here is a raven totem http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background... just haven't had time to do it On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I think we can't go with the raven http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a raven in their logo On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote: On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.com wrote: I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this looks good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it as a raven .. That’s my problem…. doesn’t look like a raven to me at all. When I first looked at it, I guess the “mouth + tough” part seemed to look more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird swirly thing at the ankle. In other words, a little to “abstract” for me. :-) Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed to these depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make it a bit clearer. Good input ;-) manfred - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org -- Sent from my phone
Re: New logo?
As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called maven using a silhouetted raven... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png ) On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: two more that I drew over the holidays: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png (in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png (in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png) I really would like some contributions from the community rather than just things that I have sketched... At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png (note would need to check if we can use this one) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases I was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In other cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both from the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to ask permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that type of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition including a direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the raven, but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular we can look into getting the approval to use the image. If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions as I just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but hey if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be reduced to a run-off of my creations) On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png OTOH here is a different stylised version http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png Finally, here is a raven totem http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background... just haven't had time to do it On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I think we can't go with the raven http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a raven in their logo On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote: On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.com wrote: I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this looks good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it as a raven .. That’s my problem…. doesn’t look like a raven to me at all. When I first looked at it, I guess the “mouth + tough” part seemed to look more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird swirly thing at the ankle. In other words, a little to “abstract” for me. :-) Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed to these depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make it a bit clearer. Good input ;-) manfred - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org -- Sent from my phone
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http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying upwards and to the right. Its a moving up and to the future instead of diving down into the past kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps it can be a #15... On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called maven using a silhouetted raven... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png ) On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: two more that I drew over the holidays: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png (in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png ) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png (in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png ) I really would like some contributions from the community rather than just things that I have sketched... At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png (note would need to check if we can use this one) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases I was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In other cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both from the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to ask permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that type of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition including a direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the raven, but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular we can look into getting the approval to use the image. If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions as I just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but hey if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be reduced to a run-off of my creations) On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png OTOH here is a different stylised version http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png Finally, here is a raven totem http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background... just haven't had time to do it On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I think we can't go with the raven http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a raven in their logo On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote: On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.com wrote: I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this looks good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it as a raven .. That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all. When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part seemed to look more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird swirly thing at the ankle. In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-) Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed to these depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make it a bit clearer. Good input ;-) manfred - To unsubscribe,
Re: New logo?
Might be just me, but though I'm not against using a raven, I'd at least prefer the more friendly 13 one (see http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png). I'm actually far more liking the friendly teddybear's style of the moose ( http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png) even if this animal might be badly connotated (not here in France, I'd say, since we're not accustomed to seeing them ;-)). The The Crow dark style isn't friendly enough, /me think. 2014/1/2 Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying upwards and to the right. Its a moving up and to the future instead of diving down into the past kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps it can be a #15... On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called maven using a silhouetted raven... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png) On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: two more that I drew over the holidays: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png ) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png ) I really would like some contributions from the community rather than just things that I have sketched... At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note would need to check if we can use this one) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases I was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In other cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both from the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to ask permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that type of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition including a direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the raven, but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular we can look into getting the approval to use the image. If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions as I just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but hey if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be reduced to a run-off of my creations) On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png OTOH here is a different stylised version http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png Finally, here is a raven totem http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background... just haven't had time to do it On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I think we can't go with the raven http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a raven in their logo On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote: On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.com wrote: I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this looks
Re: New logo?
Oups, forgot users list. Might be just me, but though I'm not against using a raven, I'd at least prefer the more friendly 13 one (see http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png). I'm actually far more liking the friendly teddybear's style of the moose ( http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png) even if this animal might be badly connotated (not here in France, I'd say, since we're not accustomed to seeing them ;-)). The The Crow dark style isn't friendly enough, /me think. 2014/1/2 Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying upwards and to the right. Its a moving up and to the future instead of diving down into the past kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps it can be a #15... On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called maven using a silhouetted raven... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png) On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: two more that I drew over the holidays: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png ) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png ) I really would like some contributions from the community rather than just things that I have sketched... At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note would need to check if we can use this one) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases I was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In other cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both from the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to ask permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that type of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition including a direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the raven, but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular we can look into getting the approval to use the image. If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions as I just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but hey if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be reduced to a run-off of my creations) On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png OTOH here is a different stylised version http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png Finally, here is a raven totem http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background... just haven't had time to do it On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I think we can't go with the raven http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a raven in their logo On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote: On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.com wrote: I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven
Re: New logo?
Well I am a big fan of my moose with the internet on tap... only benson was against the moose from what I heard... However, I will do a vote-off once we get some other suggestions so that the community can decide On 2 January 2014 15:47, Baptiste Mathus bmat...@batmat.net wrote: Might be just me, but though I'm not against using a raven, I'd at least prefer the more friendly 13 one (see http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png). I'm actually far more liking the friendly teddybear's style of the moose ( http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png) even if this animal might be badly connotated (not here in France, I'd say, since we're not accustomed to seeing them ;-)). The The Crow dark style isn't friendly enough, /me think. 2014/1/2 Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying upwards and to the right. Its a moving up and to the future instead of diving down into the past kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps it can be a #15... On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called maven using a silhouetted raven... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png) On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: two more that I drew over the holidays: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png ) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png ) I really would like some contributions from the community rather than just things that I have sketched... At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note would need to check if we can use this one) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases I was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In other cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both from the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to ask permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that type of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition including a direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the raven, but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular we can look into getting the approval to use the image. If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions as I just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but hey if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be reduced to a run-off of my creations) On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png OTOH here is a different stylised version http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png Finally, here is a raven totem http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background... just haven't had time to do it On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I
Re: New logo?
how about you try sketching out what you mean! On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter adam.ret...@googlemail.com wrote: I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian coat of arms? On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying upwards and to the right. Its a moving up and to the future instead of diving down into the past kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps it can be a #15... On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called maven using a silhouetted raven... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png ) On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: two more that I drew over the holidays: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png ) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png ) I really would like some contributions from the community rather than just things that I have sketched... At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note would need to check if we can use this one) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases I was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In other cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both from the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to ask permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that type of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition including a direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the raven, but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular we can look into getting the approval to use the image. If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions as I just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but hey if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be reduced to a run-off of my creations) On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png OTOH here is a different stylised version http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png Finally, here is a raven totem http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background... just haven't had time to do it On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I think we can't go with the raven http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a raven in their logo On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote: On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.com wrote: I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this looks good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it as a raven .. That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all. When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part seemed to look more
Re: New logo?
how about you try sketching out what you mean! On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter adam.ret...@googlemail.com wrote: I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian coat of arms? On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying upwards and to the right. Its a moving up and to the future instead of diving down into the past kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps it can be a #15... On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called maven using a silhouetted raven... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png ) On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: two more that I drew over the holidays: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png ) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png ) I really would like some contributions from the community rather than just things that I have sketched... At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note would need to check if we can use this one) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases I was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In other cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both from the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to ask permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that type of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition including a direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the raven, but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular we can look into getting the approval to use the image. If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions as I just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but hey if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be reduced to a run-off of my creations) On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png OTOH here is a different stylised version http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png Finally, here is a raven totem http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background... just haven't had time to do it On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I think we can't go with the raven http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a raven in their logo On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote: On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.com wrote: I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this looks good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it as a raven .. That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all. When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part seemed to look more
Re: New logo?
So what... you cannot do worse than http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven.png On 2 January 2014 16:55, Adam Retter adam.ret...@googlemail.com wrote: I would love to, but I posses absolutely zero artistic skill. On 2 January 2014 16:28, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: how about you try sketching out what you mean! On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter adam.ret...@googlemail.com wrote: I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian coat of arms? On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying upwards and to the right. Its a moving up and to the future instead of diving down into the past kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps it can be a #15... On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called maven using a silhouetted raven... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png) On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: two more that I drew over the holidays: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png ) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png ) I really would like some contributions from the community rather than just things that I have sketched... At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note would need to check if we can use this one) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases I was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In other cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both from the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to ask permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that type of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition including a direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the raven, but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular we can look into getting the approval to use the image. If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions as I just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but hey if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be reduced to a run-off of my creations) On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png OTOH here is a different stylised version http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png Finally, here is a raven totem http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background... just haven't had time to do it On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I think we can't go with the raven http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a raven in their logo On
Re: New logo?
How safe is an aardvark or armadillo compared to an AntEater? https://www.google.com/search?q=creative+animalhl=nlsource=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=uKnFUsCFBKGK0AWR6YHADQved=0CAkQ_AUoAQbiw=1858bih=934#hl=nlq=aardvarktbm=ischtbs=itp:clipart Op Thu, 02 Jan 2014 18:52:57 +0100 schreef Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com: So what... you cannot do worse than http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven.png On 2 January 2014 16:55, Adam Retter adam.ret...@googlemail.com wrote: I would love to, but I posses absolutely zero artistic skill. On 2 January 2014 16:28, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: how about you try sketching out what you mean! On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter adam.ret...@googlemail.com wrote: I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian coat of arms? On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying upwards and to the right. Its a moving up and to the future instead of diving down into the past kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps it can be a #15... On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called maven using a silhouetted raven... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png) On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: two more that I drew over the holidays: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png ) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png ) I really would like some contributions from the community rather than just things that I have sketched... At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note would need to check if we can use this one) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases I was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In other cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both from the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to ask permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that type of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition including a direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the raven, but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular we can look into getting the approval to use the image. If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions as I just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but hey if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be reduced to a run-off of my creations) On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png OTOH here is a different stylised version http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png Finally, here is a raven totem http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background... just haven't had time to do it On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
Re: New logo?
I personally liked the anteater idea... We can ask the Ant PMC if we have a winning logo that we are worried about On Thursday, 2 January 2014, Robert Scholte wrote: How safe is an aardvark or armadillo compared to an AntEater? https://www.google.com/search?q=creative+animalhl=nl; source=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=uKnFUsCFBKGK0AWR6YHADQved= 0CAkQ_AUoAQbiw=1858bih=934#hl=nlq=aardvarktbm=ischtbs=itp:clipart Op Thu, 02 Jan 2014 18:52:57 +0100 schreef Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com: So what... you cannot do worse than http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven.png On 2 January 2014 16:55, Adam Retter adam.ret...@googlemail.com wrote: I would love to, but I posses absolutely zero artistic skill. On 2 January 2014 16:28, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: how about you try sketching out what you mean! On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter adam.ret...@googlemail.com wrote: I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian coat of arms? On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying upwards and to the right. Its a moving up and to the future instead of diving down into the past kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps it can be a #15... On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called maven using a silhouetted raven... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/ maven-14.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png ) On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: two more that I drew over the holidays: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png ) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png ) I really would like some contributions from the community rather than just things that I have sketched... At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png -- Sent from my phone
Re: New logo?
Is it me or are a lot of these purely changing the icon, not the logo. i.e. is the logo inclusive of the mAven name ( side question - why is the A always a different colour, historic Ant reference? ) On 3 Jan 2014, at 2:18, Stephen Connolly wrote: As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called maven using a silhouetted raven... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: New logo?
Well our current icon is somebody's arse behind a laptop... Which with a cleaner site looks a tad odd With the old header bar it was fine though I have no issue changing the font or colouring, but I think an actual icon or emblem is something good to have. There was some effort to pick a new font, and I would be happy to see examples with a different font... My typographic skills are not near the level of my poor sketching skills, so I have been hoping somebody else could tackle the lettering On Thursday, 2 January 2014, Mark Derricutt wrote: Is it me or are a lot of these purely changing the icon, not the logo. i.e. is the logo inclusive of the mAven name ( side question - why is the A always a different colour, historic Ant reference? ) On 3 Jan 2014, at 2:18, Stephen Connolly wrote: As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called maven using a silhouetted raven... -- Sent from my phone
Re: New logo?
Nice... I like the first one for compactness too! On Thursday, 2 January 2014, Adam Retter wrote: Okay, so I bit the bullet and tried it. I based my examples on a Creative Commons image, but it should be fine as long as it is attributed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr_scott/4463167753/sizes/l/ http://static.adamretter.org.uk/maven-logo-example1.png and http://static.adamretter.org.uk/maven-logo-example2.png Thanks On 2 January 2014 17:52, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: So what... you cannot do worse than http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven.png On 2 January 2014 16:55, Adam Retter adam.ret...@googlemail.com wrote: I would love to, but I posses absolutely zero artistic skill. On 2 January 2014 16:28, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: how about you try sketching out what you mean! On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter adam.ret...@googlemail.com wrote: I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian coat of arms? On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com wrote: I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying upwards and to the right. Its a moving up and to the future instead of diving down into the past kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps it can be a #15... On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called maven using a silhouetted raven... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png) On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.comwrote: two more that I drew over the holidays: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in context: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png ) http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in -- Sent from my phone
Re: New logo?
My suggestion is for someone in the PMC to pay $29 to http://www.48hourslogo.com/ and have an extraordinary number of artists show you their logo ideas. Buy the one you like and then donate it to Apache. Paul
Re: New logo?
Am I reading this correctly if it's aboput $130 for a full logo contest including the rights for use ? If we can formulate some decent requirement specification, coughing up the money should be the least of our problems. Does the feather have to stay in its original shape/form? Is the logo required to be ugly ? Kristian 2014/1/2 Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org My suggestion is for someone in the PMC to pay $29 to http://www.48hourslogo.com/ and have an extraordinary number of artists show you their logo ideas. Buy the one you like and then donate it to Apache. Paul
Re: New logo?
Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png OTOH here is a different stylised version http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png Finally, here is a raven totem http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background... just haven't had time to do it On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I think we can't go with the raven http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a raven in their logo On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote: On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.com wrote: I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this looks good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it as a raven .. That’s my problem…. doesn’t look like a raven to me at all. When I first looked at it, I guess the “mouth + tough” part seemed to look more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird swirly thing at the ankle. In other words, a little to “abstract” for me. :-) Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed to these depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make it a bit clearer. Good input ;-) manfred - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org -- Sent from my phone
Re: New logo?
Am 2013-12-16 23:35, schrieb Stephen Connolly: I have been playing with reworking our front page...[image: Inline images 1] I think the fluido skin is a big improvement, I would like to switch to that... Only problem I see is that our current logo(s) are very tied to the old look and feel... Opposing to all previous proposals. I do not really see an urgent need for an animal or the link to. If you look up the meaning of Maven [1], you clearly see that it refers to a well-educated human being. I think that this needs to evaluated too though I do not know how to represent this with a graphic. Michael [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maven - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this looks good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it as a raven .. manfred http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-6.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7a.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png All based on this: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b-big.pngwhich I traced from one of the raven totems The -7 set all echo the gradient used in the Apache feather, though I think the solid colour might have more strength. I'll see if I can find another one to try tracing On 19 December 2013 20:35, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.com wrote: Thats what I had in mind. Just a stylized version that is simplified and with not too many details. Even maybe just a head or upper body of the Maven Raven ... I just had to write that.. I like it ;-) manfred Likely that would be overly complex at small resolutions, but a monochrome all black stencil version might work for small versions with the full colour at 200px+ On Thursday, 19 December 2013, Paul Benedict wrote: I like the Raven idea -- especially if you can color the bird with the Apache feathers look. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.comjavascript:; wrote: What a splendid idea! This is by far my favourite. Trailed by the Moose maybe. We could use a symbolized interpretation of a Raven along the lines of https://www.google.ca/search?q=raven+pacific+northwest+artespv=210es_sm=119tbm=ischtbo=usource=univsa=Xei=ATezUofzI4jyoASBnIAoved=0CC4QsAQbiw=1229bih=1083 Manfred It seems that a Raven would be better. It even rhymes with Maven, in English. They have a lot of significance to many different cultures, with themes ranging from wisdom, to good luck, to even blood thirsty birds of battle preferred by warriors. And given this cultural history, there exists a large corpus of artistic material to inspire or choose. https://www.google.com/search?tbm=ischq=raven http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_depictions_of_ravens On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: the wise owl? http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.orgjavascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.orgjavascript:; - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.orgjavascript:; -- Cheers, Paul -- Sent from my phone - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.com wrote: I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this looks good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it as a raven .. That’s my problem…. doesn’t look like a raven to me at all. When I first looked at it, I guess the “mouth + tough” part seemed to look more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird swirly thing at the ankle. In other words, a little to “abstract” for me. :-) Dan manfred http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-6.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7a.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png All based on this: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b-big.pngwhich I traced from one of the raven totems The -7 set all echo the gradient used in the Apache feather, though I think the solid colour might have more strength. I'll see if I can find another one to try tracing On 19 December 2013 20:35, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.com wrote: Thats what I had in mind. Just a stylized version that is simplified and with not too many details. Even maybe just a head or upper body of the Maven Raven ... I just had to write that.. I like it ;-) manfred Likely that would be overly complex at small resolutions, but a monochrome all black stencil version might work for small versions with the full colour at 200px+ On Thursday, 19 December 2013, Paul Benedict wrote: I like the Raven idea -- especially if you can color the bird with the Apache feathers look. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.comjavascript:; wrote: What a splendid idea! This is by far my favourite. Trailed by the Moose maybe. We could use a symbolized interpretation of a Raven along the lines of https://www.google.ca/search?q=raven+pacific+northwest+artespv=210es_sm=119tbm=ischtbo=usource=univsa=Xei=ATezUofzI4jyoASBnIAoved=0CC4QsAQbiw=1229bih=1083 Manfred It seems that a Raven would be better. It even rhymes with Maven, in English. They have a lot of significance to many different cultures, with themes ranging from wisdom, to good luck, to even blood thirsty birds of battle preferred by warriors. And given this cultural history, there exists a large corpus of artistic material to inspire or choose. https://www.google.com/search?tbm=ischq=raven http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_depictions_of_ravens On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: the wise owl? http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.orgjavascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.orgjavascript:; - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.orgjavascript:; -- Cheers, Paul -- Sent from my phone - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org -- Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.com wrote: I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this looks good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it as a raven .. Thats my problem . doesnt look like a raven to me at all. When I first looked at it, I guess the mouth + tough part seemed to look more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird swirly thing at the ankle. In other words, a little to abstract for me. :-) Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed to these depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make it a bit clearer. Good input ;-) manfred - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
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I think we can't go with the raven http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a raven in their logo On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote: On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.comjavascript:; wrote: I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this looks good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it as a raven .. That’s my problem…. doesn’t look like a raven to me at all. When I first looked at it, I guess the “mouth + tough” part seemed to look more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird swirly thing at the ankle. In other words, a little to “abstract” for me. :-) Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed to these depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make it a bit clearer. Good input ;-) manfred - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org javascript:; -- Sent from my phone
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Now that's a nice logo, bummer they beat us. http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2013/03/27/maven-gets-magnetometers-to-study-the-red-planets-magnetic-field/ And another cool logo gone. Robert Op Fri, 20 Dec 2013 22:28:19 +0100 schreef Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com: I think we can't go with the raven http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a raven in their logo On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote: On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.comjavascript:; wrote: I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this looks good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it as a raven .. That’s my problem…. doesn’t look like a raven to me at all. When I first looked at it, I guess the “mouth + tough” part seemed to look more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird swirly thing at the ankle. In other words, a little to “abstract” for me. :-) Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed to these depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make it a bit clearer. Good input ;-) manfred - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org javascript:; - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
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Yep.. you are probably right. We could ask but I doubt they would allow it ... manfred I think we can't go with the raven http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a raven in their logo On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote: On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.comjavascript:; wrote: I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this looks good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it as a raven .. Thats my problem . doesnt look like a raven to me at all. When I first looked at it, I guess the mouth + tough part seemed to look more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird swirly thing at the ankle. In other words, a little to abstract for me. :-) Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed to these depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make it a bit clearer. Good input ;-) manfred - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org javascript:; -- Sent from my phone - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
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I think we can't go with the raven http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a raven in their logo On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote: On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.comjavascript:; wrote: I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this looks good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it as a raven .. That’s my problem…. doesn’t look like a raven to me at all. When I first looked at it, I guess the “mouth + tough” part seemed to look more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird swirly thing at the ankle. In other words, a little to “abstract” for me. :-) Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed to these depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make it a bit clearer. Good input ;-) manfred - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org javascript:; -- Sent from my phone
RE: New logo?
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:01:54 -0500 Subject: Re: New logo? From: manf...@simpligility.com To: dev@maven.apache.org CC: manf...@simpligility.com I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this looks good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it as a raven .. MGFWIK: produced jpg appears to be a recreation of Totem Pole Raven MGHere is an example of a Totem Pole Raven http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://store.thewolfden.ca/html/images/items/02401.jpgimgrefurl=http://store.thewolfden.ca/cgi/thewolfden/02401.htmlh=371w=324sz=48tbnid=Dbwv1S537dXgyM:tbnh=92tbnw=80zoom=1usg=__enxcgZ3IHP1U98lPSkU9h_C_4m8=docid=Gcv-5rS4I5NxBMsa=Xei=INq0UoCrM5LlsASQ94HQCgved=0CDQQ9QEwAw MG manfred MGBecause 'Apache' is a Native American Tribe ..it would make sense MGto ensure the icon/jpg/bmp reflect Native American Theme http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-6.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7a.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png All based on this: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b-big.pngwhich I traced from one of the raven totems The -7 set all echo the gradient used in the Apache feather, though I think the solid colour might have more strength. I'll see if I can find another one to try tracing On 19 December 2013 20:35, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.com wrote: Thats what I had in mind. Just a stylized version that is simplified and with not too many details. Even maybe just a head or upper body of the Maven Raven ... I just had to write that.. I like it ;-) manfred Likely that would be overly complex at small resolutions, but a monochrome all black stencil version might work for small versions with the full colour at 200px+ On Thursday, 19 December 2013, Paul Benedict wrote: I like the Raven idea -- especially if you can color the bird with the Apache feathers look. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.comjavascript:; wrote: What a splendid idea! This is by far my favourite. Trailed by the Moose maybe. We could use a symbolized interpretation of a Raven along the lines of https://www.google.ca/search?q=raven+pacific+northwest+artespv=210es_sm=119tbm=ischtbo=usource=univsa=Xei=ATezUofzI4jyoASBnIAoved=0CC4QsAQbiw=1229bih=1083 Manfred It seems that a Raven would be better. It even rhymes with Maven, in English. They have a lot of significance to many different cultures, with themes ranging from wisdom, to good luck, to even blood thirsty birds of battle preferred by warriors. And given this cultural history, there exists a large corpus of artistic material to inspire or choose. https://www.google.com/search?tbm=ischq=raven http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_depictions_of_ravens On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: the wise owl? http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.orgjavascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.orgjavascript:; - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.orgjavascript:; -- Cheers, Paul -- Sent from my phone - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
the wise owl? http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png On 18 December 2013 16:22, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org wrote: I think the logo should emphasis what the name maven means: someone who is an expert or connoisseur. Actually, I think the glasses on that animal brings out that imagery -- although I would like to see it emphasized more. The expertise could be also include blocks since modules/projects are the building blocks of maven. On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: For Benson... and just to put another one in the hat... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-4.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-4-big.png On 18 December 2013 15:38, Jason van Zyl ja...@tesla.io wrote: On Dec 18, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I think we need a new POM version to drive us forward. I agree. If no one else gets to it I'll write up something over the holidays to distill what Stephen has written and try and formalize some minimal requirements and desires. As a visual goes, I'd look for something like a beaver (who builds things) wearing geek eye-glasses (indicating 'it's a maven'). For the love of god (if that happens to be your thing) please do not use a beaver. Go ask your closest English speaking North American why that's not a good choice. No one wants to see the maven-beaver-plugin. On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Tomcat... well they have a cat... fair enough Hadoop... has an elephant Hama has a hippo Solr has a sunrise Jackrabbit has a rabbit Chemistry has a test tube Openoffice has some abstract flying birds on a blue sky Karaf has a beaker with a feather on top ODE has a conductor with a feather instead of a batton Ant has the ant Flex has some strange abstract flexy thing Marmotta has a gopher Hive has an elephant-bee hybrid ... There is a limit to how many visually distinct animals you can render for a 75px tall image placeholder... But seriously, we just want something that is more than just our name in a fancy font. I think we need a mascot to help drive us onwards... -Stephen On 18 December 2013 13:27, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: A large, not very bright, species of deer that wears giant antlers and attacks what it doesn't understand. If that's what strikes you all as a great metaphor for us, Maven, or both, go right ahead. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org Thanks, Jason -- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl - -- Cheers, Paul
Re: New logo?
It seems that a Raven would be better. It even rhymes with Maven, in English. They have a lot of significance to many different cultures, with themes ranging from wisdom, to good luck, to even blood thirsty birds of battle preferred by warriors. And given this cultural history, there exists a large corpus of artistic material to inspire or choose. https://www.google.com/search?tbm=ischq=raven http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_depictions_of_ravens On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: the wise owl? http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
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What a splendid idea! This is by far my favourite. Trailed by the Moose maybe. We could use a symbolized interpretation of a Raven along the lines of https://www.google.ca/search?q=raven+pacific+northwest+artespv=210es_sm=119tbm=ischtbo=usource=univsa=Xei=ATezUofzI4jyoASBnIAoved=0CC4QsAQbiw=1229bih=1083 Manfred It seems that a Raven would be better. It even rhymes with Maven, in English. They have a lot of significance to many different cultures, with themes ranging from wisdom, to good luck, to even blood thirsty birds of battle preferred by warriors. And given this cultural history, there exists a large corpus of artistic material to inspire or choose. https://www.google.com/search?tbm=ischq=raven http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_depictions_of_ravens On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: the wise owl? http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
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I like the Raven idea -- especially if you can color the bird with the Apache feathers look. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.comwrote: What a splendid idea! This is by far my favourite. Trailed by the Moose maybe. We could use a symbolized interpretation of a Raven along the lines of https://www.google.ca/search?q=raven+pacific+northwest+artespv=210es_sm=119tbm=ischtbo=usource=univsa=Xei=ATezUofzI4jyoASBnIAoved=0CC4QsAQbiw=1229bih=1083 Manfred It seems that a Raven would be better. It even rhymes with Maven, in English. They have a lot of significance to many different cultures, with themes ranging from wisdom, to good luck, to even blood thirsty birds of battle preferred by warriors. And given this cultural history, there exists a large corpus of artistic material to inspire or choose. https://www.google.com/search?tbm=ischq=raven http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_depictions_of_ravens On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: the wise owl? http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org -- Cheers, Paul
Re: New logo?
Likely that would be overly complex at small resolutions, but a monochrome all black stencil version might work for small versions with the full colour at 200px+ On Thursday, 19 December 2013, Paul Benedict wrote: I like the Raven idea -- especially if you can color the bird with the Apache feathers look. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.comjavascript:; wrote: What a splendid idea! This is by far my favourite. Trailed by the Moose maybe. We could use a symbolized interpretation of a Raven along the lines of https://www.google.ca/search?q=raven+pacific+northwest+artespv=210es_sm=119tbm=ischtbo=usource=univsa=Xei=ATezUofzI4jyoASBnIAoved=0CC4QsAQbiw=1229bih=1083 Manfred It seems that a Raven would be better. It even rhymes with Maven, in English. They have a lot of significance to many different cultures, with themes ranging from wisdom, to good luck, to even blood thirsty birds of battle preferred by warriors. And given this cultural history, there exists a large corpus of artistic material to inspire or choose. https://www.google.com/search?tbm=ischq=raven http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_depictions_of_ravens On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: the wise owl? http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.orgjavascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.orgjavascript:; - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.orgjavascript:; -- Cheers, Paul -- Sent from my phone
Re: New logo?
Thats what I had in mind. Just a stylized version that is simplified and with not too many details. Even maybe just a head or upper body of the Maven Raven ... I just had to write that.. I like it ;-) manfred Likely that would be overly complex at small resolutions, but a monochrome all black stencil version might work for small versions with the full colour at 200px+ On Thursday, 19 December 2013, Paul Benedict wrote: I like the Raven idea -- especially if you can color the bird with the Apache feathers look. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.comjavascript:; wrote: What a splendid idea! This is by far my favourite. Trailed by the Moose maybe. We could use a symbolized interpretation of a Raven along the lines of https://www.google.ca/search?q=raven+pacific+northwest+artespv=210es_sm=119tbm=ischtbo=usource=univsa=Xei=ATezUofzI4jyoASBnIAoved=0CC4QsAQbiw=1229bih=1083 Manfred It seems that a Raven would be better. It even rhymes with Maven, in English. They have a lot of significance to many different cultures, with themes ranging from wisdom, to good luck, to even blood thirsty birds of battle preferred by warriors. And given this cultural history, there exists a large corpus of artistic material to inspire or choose. https://www.google.com/search?tbm=ischq=raven http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_depictions_of_ravens On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: the wise owl? http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.orgjavascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.orgjavascript:; - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.orgjavascript:; -- Cheers, Paul -- Sent from my phone - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-6.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7a.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png All based on this: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b-big.pngwhich I traced from one of the raven totems The -7 set all echo the gradient used in the Apache feather, though I think the solid colour might have more strength. I'll see if I can find another one to try tracing On 19 December 2013 20:35, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.com wrote: Thats what I had in mind. Just a stylized version that is simplified and with not too many details. Even maybe just a head or upper body of the Maven Raven ... I just had to write that.. I like it ;-) manfred Likely that would be overly complex at small resolutions, but a monochrome all black stencil version might work for small versions with the full colour at 200px+ On Thursday, 19 December 2013, Paul Benedict wrote: I like the Raven idea -- especially if you can color the bird with the Apache feathers look. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.comjavascript:; wrote: What a splendid idea! This is by far my favourite. Trailed by the Moose maybe. We could use a symbolized interpretation of a Raven along the lines of https://www.google.ca/search?q=raven+pacific+northwest+artespv=210es_sm=119tbm=ischtbo=usource=univsa=Xei=ATezUofzI4jyoASBnIAoved=0CC4QsAQbiw=1229bih=1083 Manfred It seems that a Raven would be better. It even rhymes with Maven, in English. They have a lot of significance to many different cultures, with themes ranging from wisdom, to good luck, to even blood thirsty birds of battle preferred by warriors. And given this cultural history, there exists a large corpus of artistic material to inspire or choose. https://www.google.com/search?tbm=ischq=raven http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_depictions_of_ravens On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: the wise owl? http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.orgjavascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.orgjavascript:; - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.orgjavascript:; -- Cheers, Paul -- Sent from my phone - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
RE: New logo?
Apache? Totems? When my ancestors arrived at Ellis they were reminded ..there are native-americans http://indianspictures.blogspot.com/2012/01/american-native-american-photos-of.html Worth a gander? Martin __ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 23:44:00 + Subject: Re: New logo? From: stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com To: dev@maven.apache.org; manf...@simpligility.com http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-6.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7a.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png All based on this: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b-big.pngwhich I traced from one of the raven totems The -7 set all echo the gradient used in the Apache feather, though I think the solid colour might have more strength. I'll see if I can find another one to try tracing On 19 December 2013 20:35, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.com wrote: Thats what I had in mind. Just a stylized version that is simplified and with not too many details. Even maybe just a head or upper body of the Maven Raven ... I just had to write that.. I like it ;-) manfred Likely that would be overly complex at small resolutions, but a monochrome all black stencil version might work for small versions with the full colour at 200px+ On Thursday, 19 December 2013, Paul Benedict wrote: I like the Raven idea -- especially if you can color the bird with the Apache feathers look. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Manfred Moser manf...@simpligility.comjavascript:; wrote: What a splendid idea! This is by far my favourite. Trailed by the Moose maybe. We could use a symbolized interpretation of a Raven along the lines of https://www.google.ca/search?q=raven+pacific+northwest+artespv=210es_sm=119tbm=ischtbo=usource=univsa=Xei=ATezUofzI4jyoASBnIAoved=0CC4QsAQbiw=1229bih=1083 Manfred It seems that a Raven would be better. It even rhymes with Maven, in English. They have a lot of significance to many different cultures, with themes ranging from wisdom, to good luck, to even blood thirsty birds of battle preferred by warriors. And given this cultural history, there exists a large corpus of artistic material to inspire or choose. https://www.google.com/search?tbm=ischq=raven http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_depictions_of_ravens On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: the wise owl? http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.orgjavascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.orgjavascript:; - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.orgjavascript:; -- Cheers, Paul -- Sent from my phone - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
Here is a more serious suggestion... A moose... why not Maven the moose! http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3.png May need a tweaking... Here's a larger version http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3-big.png On 17 December 2013 16:00, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: well if we do with Fred's McDonalds, the Apache feather needs some better integration with the globe as there is a shadow mismatch in my mashup! On 17 December 2013 15:48, Tamás Cservenák ta...@cservenak.net wrote: Ok, then let me try to find some imagery... hm, google for maven, mkay, click Images WOW http://screencast.com/t/tfc20w9RA I'd rather go to Fred's McDonalds... :D On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Yes I know... this is not a serious suggestion... To understand my logic... When people cannot decide what restaurant to go to, the easy way to get a suggestion is to point out that if no agreement can be found we will just go to McDonalds... and not the good McDonalds either, but the dodgy one on *that* street, the one Fred said to avoid... Somebody must have a better suggestion (and the Anteater was the animal on the front of the O'Reilly book, hence my picking it... it being the only thing associated with Maven image wise) On 17 December 2013 15:28, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org wrote: I think the picture of an AntEater can feed into the which is better: ant vs maven? debate. I would opt not to possibly offend the Ant team. On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: A better looking anteater... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-2.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-2.png I think that may exhaust the AntEater and downloading all the internet joke as far as my artistic ability can take it though I may try to rework the apache feather to fit better... and I could move off the tango colour palette that I have as my default in inkscape (it's default so that I can keep with the tango theme that Jenkins uses for icons) On 17 December 2013 13:45, Kristian Rosenvold kristian.rosenv...@gmail.comwrote: I'm speechless. Kristian 2013/12/17 Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com the anteater sucking down the interwebs from apache using Tamás's text http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven.png And a screenshot with it http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot.png On 17 December 2013 13:38, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Meh! I was just trying to get something that would stir objections... hence the strange kerning! On 17 December 2013 12:46, Tamás Cservenák ta...@cservenak.net wrote: Don't want to stir too much here, but the http://oi41.tinypic.com/33bctw2.jpg is typographically incorrect (odd kerning and odd/different typeface). Long time ago I made vector based Maven logo (for Proximity site) that I thought I donated to Maven project... That one could serve as a great starting point for experiments, just get some vector drawing app (I used http://inkscape.org/en/ to draw it long time ago). If not in ASF SVN, you can still access it from here (maven-logo.svg) https://github.com/cstamas/proximity1/tree/master/proximity-site-stuff/srcs HTH, ~t~ On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I came up with a silly logo just to kick things off: http://oi41.tinypic.com/33bctw2.jpg Here's how it looks with the fluido skin http://i39.tinypic.com/1zoz3v9.jpg And I am not suggesting that an Ant Eater standing on an Apache feather and slurping down the internet is the logo we should run with... it is a Worst option that should spur a better version On 17 December 2013 00:38, Jeff Jensen jeffjen...@upstairstechnology.com wrote: Looks good. I like the left nav better tho! I don't think the Maven logo in the upper right corner looks bad/out of place, however, a new logo is fun to have! On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote
Re: New logo?
And I am not suggesting that an Ant Eater standing on an Apache feather and slurping down the internet is the logo we should run with... it is a Worst option that should spur a better version On 17 December 2013 00:38, Jeff Jensen jeffjen...@upstairstechnology.com wrote: Looks good. I like the left nav better tho! I don't think the Maven logo in the upper right corner looks bad/out of place, however, a new logo is fun to have! On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w5eblhl4q0fzc6p/Screen%20Shot%202013-12-16%20at%2022.32.03.png On 17 December 2013 00:16, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: bollix gmail On 17 December 2013 00:11, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote: Maybe only me but I cannot see the image :-) On 17 December 2013 09:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I have been playing with reworking our front page...[image: Inline images 1] I think the fluido skin is a big improvement, I would like to switch to that... Only problem I see is that our current logo(s) are very tied to the old look and feel... So do we want to see about launching a logo competition. TomEE had good success with theirs. Also I'm looking at going with the top-menu version of fluido skin rather than the left menu... I have a solution to the hidden nature... but you'll just have to wait until I sync up with Hervé to find a way to get it pushed to staging from a branch without blowing up the production site to see my trickery! -Stephen -- Olivier Lamy Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy -- Cheers, Paul -- -- +==+ | Bästa hälsningar, | [sw. Best regards] | | Lennart Jörelid | EAI Architect Integrator | | jGuru Europe AB | Mölnlycke - Kista | | Email: l...@jguru.se | URL: www.jguru.se | Phone | (skype):jgurueurope | (intl): +46 708 507 603 | (domestic): 0708 - 507 603 +==+
Re: New logo?
The license on that font seems to imply once you go past 25 web users you
need a commercial license...
On Wednesday, 18 December 2013, Lennart Jörelid wrote:
Nice logo - and I would suggest giving the letters Maven a more modern
feel.
Same color, freeware sans-serif typeface, easy on the eye.
How about using Aller for the Maven letters in the logo:
[image: Infogad bild 1]
For those of you wanting to do a test spin:
http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/Aller?filter%5Bclassifications%5D%5B%5D=displayfilter%5Bclassifications%5D%5B%5D=monospacedfilter%5Bclassifications%5D%5B%5D=sans+seriffilter%5Bfamily_size%5D=1filter%5Bdownload%5D=allsort=popular#testdrive
2013/12/18 Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
Here is a more serious suggestion...
A moose... why not Maven the moose!
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3.png
May need a tweaking...
Here's a larger version
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3-big.png
On 17 December 2013 16:00, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
wrote:
well if we do with Fred's McDonalds, the Apache feather needs some better
integration with the globe as there is a shadow mismatch in my mashup!
On 17 December 2013 15:48, Tamás Cservenák ta...@cservenak.net wrote:
Ok, then let me try to find some imagery... hm, google for maven, mkay,
click Images WOW
http://screencast.com/t/tfc20w9RA
I'd rather go to Fred's McDonalds... :D
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes I know... this is not a serious suggestion...
To understand my logic...
When people cannot decide what restaurant to go to, the easy way to
get
a
suggestion is to point out that if no agreement can be found we will
just
go to McDonalds... and not the good McDonalds either, but the dodgy
one
on
*that* street, the one Fred said to avoid...
Somebody must have a better suggestion (and the Anteater was the
animal
on
the front of the O'Reilly book, hence my picking it... it being the
only
thing associated with Maven image wise)
On 17 December 2013 15:28, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org
wrote:
I think the picture of an AntEater can feed into the which is
better:
ant
vs maven? debate. I would opt not to possibly offend the Ant team.
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
A better looking anteater...
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-2.png
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-2.png
I think that may exhaust the AntEater and downloading all the
internet
joke
as far as my artistic ability can take it though I may try to
rework
the apache feather to fit better... and I could move off the tango
colour
palette that I have as my default in inkscape (it's default so
that
I
can
keep with the tango theme that Jenkins uses for icons)
On 17 December 2013 13:45, Kristian Rosenvold
kristian.rosenvold@gmail
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Re: New logo?
Hopefully Maven is in that position ;-)
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On Dec 18, 2013 1:34 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
wrote:
The license on that font seems to imply once you go past 25 web users you
need a commercial license...
On Wednesday, 18 December 2013, Lennart Jörelid wrote:
Nice logo - and I would suggest giving the letters Maven a more modern
feel.
Same color, freeware sans-serif typeface, easy on the eye.
How about using Aller for the Maven letters in the logo:
[image: Infogad bild 1]
For those of you wanting to do a test spin:
http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/Aller?filter%5Bclassifications%5D%5B%5D=displayfilter%5Bclassifications%5D%5B%5D=monospacedfilter%5Bclassifications%5D%5B%5D=sans+seriffilter%5Bfamily_size%5D=1filter%5Bdownload%5D=allsort=popular#testdrive
2013/12/18 Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
Here is a more serious suggestion...
A moose... why not Maven the moose!
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3.png
May need a tweaking...
Here's a larger version
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3-big.png
On 17 December 2013 16:00, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
wrote:
well if we do with Fred's McDonalds, the Apache feather needs some
better
integration with the globe as there is a shadow mismatch in my mashup!
On 17 December 2013 15:48, Tamás Cservenák ta...@cservenak.net
wrote:
Ok, then let me try to find some imagery... hm, google for maven,
mkay,
click Images WOW
http://screencast.com/t/tfc20w9RA
I'd rather go to Fred's McDonalds... :D
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes I know... this is not a serious suggestion...
To understand my logic...
When people cannot decide what restaurant to go to, the easy way to
get
a
suggestion is to point out that if no agreement can be found we will
just
go to McDonalds... and not the good McDonalds either, but the dodgy
one
on
*that* street, the one Fred said to avoid...
Somebody must have a better suggestion (and the Anteater was the
animal
on
the front of the O'Reilly book, hence my picking it... it being the
only
thing associated with Maven image wise)
On 17 December 2013 15:28, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org
wrote:
I think the picture of an AntEater can feed into the which is
better:
ant
vs maven? debate. I would opt not to possibly offend the Ant
team.
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
A better looking anteater...
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-2.png
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-2.png
I think that may exhaust the AntEater and downloading all the
internet
joke
as far as my artistic ability can take it though I may try
to
rework
the apache feather to fit better... and I could move off the
tango
colour
palette that I have as my default in inkscape (it's default so
that
I
can
keep with the tango theme that Jenkins uses for icons)
On 17 December 2013 13:45, Kristian Rosenvold
kristian.rosenvold@gmail
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Re: New logo?
with... it is a Worst option that should spur a better version On 17 December 2013 00:38, Jeff Jensen jeffjen...@upstairstechnology.com wrote: Looks good. I like the left nav better tho! I don't think the Maven logo in the upper right corner looks bad/out of place, however, a new logo is fun to have! On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w5eblhl4q0fzc6p/Screen%20Shot%202013-12-16%20at%2022.32.03.png On 17 December 2013 00:16, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: bollix gmail On 17 December 2013 00:11, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote: Maybe only me but I cannot see the image :-) On 17 December 2013 09:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I have been playing with reworking our front page...[image: Inline images 1] I think the fluido skin is a big improvement, I would like to switch to that... Only problem I see is that our current logo(s) are very tied to the old look and feel... So do we want to see about launching a logo competition. TomEE had good success with theirs. Also I'm looking at going with the top-menu version of fluido skin rather than the left menu... I have a solution to the hidden nature... but you'll just have to wait until I sync up with Hervé to find a way to get it pushed to staging from a branch without blowing up the production site to see my trickery! -Stephen -- Olivier Lamy Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy -- Cheers, Paul
Re: New logo?
option that should spur a better version On 17 December 2013 00:38, Jeff Jensen jeffjen...@upstairstechnology.com wrote: Looks good. I like the left nav better tho! I don't think the Maven logo in the upper right corner looks bad/out of place, however, a new logo is fun to have! On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w5eblhl4q0fzc6p/Screen%20Shot%202013-12-16%20at%2022.32.03.png On 17 December 2013 00:16, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: bollix gmail On 17 December 2013 00:11, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote: Maybe only me but I cannot see the image :-) On 17 December 2013 09:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I have been playing with reworking our front page...[image: Inline images 1] I think the fluido skin is a big improvement, I would like to switch to that... Only problem I see is that our current logo(s) are very tied to the old look and feel... So do we want to see about launching a logo competition. TomEE had good success with theirs. Also I'm looking at going with the top-menu version of fluido skin rather than the left menu... I have a solution to the hidden nature... but you'll just have to wait until I sync up with Hervé to find a way to get it pushed to staging from a branch without blowing up the production site to see my trickery! -Stephen -- Olivier Lamy Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy -- Cheers, Paul
Re: New logo?
.jpg Here's how it looks with the fluido skin http://i39.tinypic.com/1zoz3v9.jpg And I am not suggesting that an Ant Eater standing on an Apache feather and slurping down the internet is the logo we should run with... it is a Worst option that should spur a better version On 17 December 2013 00:38, Jeff Jensen jeffjen...@upstairstechnology.com wrote: Looks good. I like the left nav better tho! I don't think the Maven logo in the upper right corner looks bad/out of place, however, a new logo is fun to have! On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w5eblhl4q0fzc6p/Screen%20Shot%202013-12-16%20at%2022.32.03.png On 17 December 2013 00:16, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: bollix gmail On 17 December 2013 00:11, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote: Maybe only me but I cannot see the image :-) On 17 December 2013 09:35, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I have been playing with reworking our front page...[image: Inline images 1] I think the fluido skin is a big improvement, I would like to switch to that... Only problem I see is that our current logo(s) are very tied to the old look and feel... So do we want to see about launching a logo competition. TomEE had good success with theirs. Also I'm looking at going with the top-menu version of fluido skin rather than the left menu... I have a solution to the hidden nature... but you'll just have to wait until I sync up with Hervé to find a way to get it pushed to staging from a branch without blowing up the production site to see my trickery! -Stephen -- Olivier Lamy Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy -- Cheers, Paul
Re: New logo?
A large, not very bright, species of deer that wears giant antlers and attacks what it doesn't understand. If that's what strikes you all as a great metaphor for us, Maven, or both, go right ahead. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
Please draw something better... I will run a bake-off once we get a few options... and hey, it's better than the anteater On 18 December 2013 13:27, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: A large, not very bright, species of deer that wears giant antlers and attacks what it doesn't understand. If that's what strikes you all as a great metaphor for us, Maven, or both, go right ahead. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
Well spotted, there.
Take 2, and assuming that the SIL Open Font License version 1.0 would work
in the case of Maven yields the font Sansation instead:
http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/sansation?filter%5Bclassifications%5D%5B%5D=displayfilter%5Bclassifications%5D%5B%5D=sans+seriffilter%5Blicense%5D%5Bweb%5D=Yfilter%5Blicense%5D%5Bopen%5D=Yfilter%5Bfamily_size%5D=1filter%5Bdownload%5D=allsort=popular
Including a glyph overview:
[image: Infogad bild 1]
2013/12/18 Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
The license on that font seems to imply once you go past 25 web users you
need a commercial license...
On Wednesday, 18 December 2013, Lennart Jörelid wrote:
Nice logo - and I would suggest giving the letters Maven a more modern
feel.
Same color, freeware sans-serif typeface, easy on the eye.
How about using Aller for the Maven letters in the logo:
[image: Infogad bild 1]
For those of you wanting to do a test spin:
http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/Aller?filter%5Bclassifications%5D%5B%5D=displayfilter%5Bclassifications%5D%5B%5D=monospacedfilter%5Bclassifications%5D%5B%5D=sans+seriffilter%5Bfamily_size%5D=1filter%5Bdownload%5D=allsort=popular#testdrive
2013/12/18 Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
Here is a more serious suggestion...
A moose... why not Maven the moose!
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3.png
May need a tweaking...
Here's a larger version
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3-big.png
On 17 December 2013 16:00, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
wrote:
well if we do with Fred's McDonalds, the Apache feather needs some
better
integration with the globe as there is a shadow mismatch in my mashup!
On 17 December 2013 15:48, Tamás Cservenák ta...@cservenak.net
wrote:
Ok, then let me try to find some imagery... hm, google for maven,
mkay,
click Images WOW
http://screencast.com/t/tfc20w9RA
I'd rather go to Fred's McDonalds... :D
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes I know... this is not a serious suggestion...
To understand my logic...
When people cannot decide what restaurant to go to, the easy way to
get
a
suggestion is to point out that if no agreement can be found we will
just
go to McDonalds... and not the good McDonalds either, but the dodgy
one
on
*that* street, the one Fred said to avoid...
Somebody must have a better suggestion (and the Anteater was the
animal
on
the front of the O'Reilly book, hence my picking it... it being the
only
thing associated with Maven image wise)
On 17 December 2013 15:28, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org
wrote:
I think the picture of an AntEater can feed into the which is
better:
ant
vs maven? debate. I would opt not to possibly offend the Ant
team.
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
A better looking anteater...
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-2.png
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-2.png
I think that may exhaust the AntEater and downloading all the
internet
joke
as far as my artistic ability can take it though I may try
to
rework
the apache feather to fit better... and I could move off the
tango
colour
palette that I have as my default in inkscape (it's default so
that
I
can
keep with the tango theme that Jenkins uses for icons)
On 17 December 2013 13:45, Kristian Rosenvold
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Re: New logo?
Tomcat... well they have a cat... fair enough Hadoop... has an elephant Hama has a hippo Solr has a sunrise Jackrabbit has a rabbit Chemistry has a test tube Openoffice has some abstract flying birds on a blue sky Karaf has a beaker with a feather on top ODE has a conductor with a feather instead of a batton Ant has the ant Flex has some strange abstract flexy thing Marmotta has a gopher Hive has an elephant-bee hybrid ... There is a limit to how many visually distinct animals you can render for a 75px tall image placeholder... But seriously, we just want something that is more than just our name in a fancy font. I think we need a mascot to help drive us onwards... -Stephen On 18 December 2013 13:27, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: A large, not very bright, species of deer that wears giant antlers and attacks what it doesn't understand. If that's what strikes you all as a great metaphor for us, Maven, or both, go right ahead. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
Personally, I think we need a new POM version to drive us forward. As a visual goes, I'd look for something like a beaver (who builds things) wearing geek eye-glasses (indicating 'it's a maven'). On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Tomcat... well they have a cat... fair enough Hadoop... has an elephant Hama has a hippo Solr has a sunrise Jackrabbit has a rabbit Chemistry has a test tube Openoffice has some abstract flying birds on a blue sky Karaf has a beaker with a feather on top ODE has a conductor with a feather instead of a batton Ant has the ant Flex has some strange abstract flexy thing Marmotta has a gopher Hive has an elephant-bee hybrid ... There is a limit to how many visually distinct animals you can render for a 75px tall image placeholder... But seriously, we just want something that is more than just our name in a fancy font. I think we need a mascot to help drive us onwards... -Stephen On 18 December 2013 13:27, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: A large, not very bright, species of deer that wears giant antlers and attacks what it doesn't understand. If that's what strikes you all as a great metaphor for us, Maven, or both, go right ahead. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
Another option might be Duke, e.g. http://cs.anu.edu.au/student/comp6700/icons/DukeWithHelmet.png wearing a builders hat and replacing the helmet underarm with a Internet globe On 18 December 2013 15:20, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I think we need a new POM version to drive us forward. As a visual goes, I'd look for something like a beaver (who builds things) wearing geek eye-glasses (indicating 'it's a maven'). On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Tomcat... well they have a cat... fair enough Hadoop... has an elephant Hama has a hippo Solr has a sunrise Jackrabbit has a rabbit Chemistry has a test tube Openoffice has some abstract flying birds on a blue sky Karaf has a beaker with a feather on top ODE has a conductor with a feather instead of a batton Ant has the ant Flex has some strange abstract flexy thing Marmotta has a gopher Hive has an elephant-bee hybrid ... There is a limit to how many visually distinct animals you can render for a 75px tall image placeholder... But seriously, we just want something that is more than just our name in a fancy font. I think we need a mascot to help drive us onwards... -Stephen On 18 December 2013 13:27, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: A large, not very bright, species of deer that wears giant antlers and attacks what it doesn't understand. If that's what strikes you all as a great metaphor for us, Maven, or both, go right ahead. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
who owns the copyright on Duke? On Dec 18, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Another option might be Duke, e.g. http://cs.anu.edu.au/student/comp6700/icons/DukeWithHelmet.png wearing a builders hat and replacing the helmet underarm with a Internet globe On 18 December 2013 15:20, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I think we need a new POM version to drive us forward. As a visual goes, I'd look for something like a beaver (who builds things) wearing geek eye-glasses (indicating 'it's a maven'). On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Tomcat... well they have a cat... fair enough Hadoop... has an elephant Hama has a hippo Solr has a sunrise Jackrabbit has a rabbit Chemistry has a test tube Openoffice has some abstract flying birds on a blue sky Karaf has a beaker with a feather on top ODE has a conductor with a feather instead of a batton Ant has the ant Flex has some strange abstract flexy thing Marmotta has a gopher Hive has an elephant-bee hybrid ... There is a limit to how many visually distinct animals you can render for a 75px tall image placeholder... But seriously, we just want something that is more than just our name in a fancy font. I think we need a mascot to help drive us onwards... -Stephen On 18 December 2013 13:27, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: A large, not very bright, species of deer that wears giant antlers and attacks what it doesn't understand. If that's what strikes you all as a great metaphor for us, Maven, or both, go right ahead. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
As a visual goes, I'd look for something like a beaver (who builds things) wearing geek eye-glasses (indicating 'it's a maven'). Maybe a Doozer (remember the Fraggles?): http://kaelajael.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/doozer2.jpg?w=350h=507 /Anders On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Tomcat... well they have a cat... fair enough Hadoop... has an elephant Hama has a hippo Solr has a sunrise Jackrabbit has a rabbit Chemistry has a test tube Openoffice has some abstract flying birds on a blue sky Karaf has a beaker with a feather on top ODE has a conductor with a feather instead of a batton Ant has the ant Flex has some strange abstract flexy thing Marmotta has a gopher Hive has an elephant-bee hybrid ... There is a limit to how many visually distinct animals you can render for a 75px tall image placeholder... But seriously, we just want something that is more than just our name in a fancy font. I think we need a mascot to help drive us onwards... -Stephen On 18 December 2013 13:27, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: A large, not very bright, species of deer that wears giant antlers and attacks what it doesn't understand. If that's what strikes you all as a great metaphor for us, Maven, or both, go right ahead. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
I believe Sun set him free with a use with care sort of free license. /Anders On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote: who owns the copyright on Duke? On Dec 18, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Another option might be Duke, e.g. http://cs.anu.edu.au/student/comp6700/icons/DukeWithHelmet.png wearing a builders hat and replacing the helmet underarm with a Internet globe On 18 December 2013 15:20, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I think we need a new POM version to drive us forward. As a visual goes, I'd look for something like a beaver (who builds things) wearing geek eye-glasses (indicating 'it's a maven'). On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Tomcat... well they have a cat... fair enough Hadoop... has an elephant Hama has a hippo Solr has a sunrise Jackrabbit has a rabbit Chemistry has a test tube Openoffice has some abstract flying birds on a blue sky Karaf has a beaker with a feather on top ODE has a conductor with a feather instead of a batton Ant has the ant Flex has some strange abstract flexy thing Marmotta has a gopher Hive has an elephant-bee hybrid ... There is a limit to how many visually distinct animals you can render for a 75px tall image placeholder... But seriously, we just want something that is more than just our name in a fancy font. I think we need a mascot to help drive us onwards... -Stephen On 18 December 2013 13:27, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: A large, not very bright, species of deer that wears giant antlers and attacks what it doesn't understand. If that's what strikes you all as a great metaphor for us, Maven, or both, go right ahead. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: New logo?
On Dec 18, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I think we need a new POM version to drive us forward. I agree. If no one else gets to it I'll write up something over the holidays to distill what Stephen has written and try and formalize some minimal requirements and desires. As a visual goes, I'd look for something like a beaver (who builds things) wearing geek eye-glasses (indicating 'it's a maven'). For the love of god (if that happens to be your thing) please do not use a beaver. Go ask your closest English speaking North American why that's not a good choice. No one wants to see the maven-beaver-plugin. On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Tomcat... well they have a cat... fair enough Hadoop... has an elephant Hama has a hippo Solr has a sunrise Jackrabbit has a rabbit Chemistry has a test tube Openoffice has some abstract flying birds on a blue sky Karaf has a beaker with a feather on top ODE has a conductor with a feather instead of a batton Ant has the ant Flex has some strange abstract flexy thing Marmotta has a gopher Hive has an elephant-bee hybrid ... There is a limit to how many visually distinct animals you can render for a 75px tall image placeholder... But seriously, we just want something that is more than just our name in a fancy font. I think we need a mascot to help drive us onwards... -Stephen On 18 December 2013 13:27, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: A large, not very bright, species of deer that wears giant antlers and attacks what it doesn't understand. If that's what strikes you all as a great metaphor for us, Maven, or both, go right ahead. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org Thanks, Jason -- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl -
Re: New logo?
Interesting associations, to be sure. Since Maven conveys more of the meaning of Expert, rather than Builder, there might be a difficulty finding an appropriate animal logo. I'd say just pick a logo which sticks and doesn't make most people react too negatively - and we're there. 2013/12/18 Jason van Zyl ja...@tesla.io On Dec 18, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I think we need a new POM version to drive us forward. I agree. If no one else gets to it I'll write up something over the holidays to distill what Stephen has written and try and formalize some minimal requirements and desires. As a visual goes, I'd look for something like a beaver (who builds things) wearing geek eye-glasses (indicating 'it's a maven'). For the love of god (if that happens to be your thing) please do not use a beaver. Go ask your closest English speaking North American why that's not a good choice. No one wants to see the maven-beaver-plugin. On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Tomcat... well they have a cat... fair enough Hadoop... has an elephant Hama has a hippo Solr has a sunrise Jackrabbit has a rabbit Chemistry has a test tube Openoffice has some abstract flying birds on a blue sky Karaf has a beaker with a feather on top ODE has a conductor with a feather instead of a batton Ant has the ant Flex has some strange abstract flexy thing Marmotta has a gopher Hive has an elephant-bee hybrid ... There is a limit to how many visually distinct animals you can render for a 75px tall image placeholder... But seriously, we just want something that is more than just our name in a fancy font. I think we need a mascot to help drive us onwards... -Stephen On 18 December 2013 13:27, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: A large, not very bright, species of deer that wears giant antlers and attacks what it doesn't understand. If that's what strikes you all as a great metaphor for us, Maven, or both, go right ahead. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org Thanks, Jason -- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl - -- -- +==+ | Bästa hälsningar, | [sw. Best regards] | | Lennart Jörelid | EAI Architect Integrator | | jGuru Europe AB | Mölnlycke - Kista | | Email: l...@jguru.se | URL: www.jguru.se | Phone | (skype):jgurueurope | (intl): +46 708 507 603 | (domestic): 0708 - 507 603 +==+
Re: New logo?
For Benson... and just to put another one in the hat... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-4.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-4-big.png On 18 December 2013 15:38, Jason van Zyl ja...@tesla.io wrote: On Dec 18, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I think we need a new POM version to drive us forward. I agree. If no one else gets to it I'll write up something over the holidays to distill what Stephen has written and try and formalize some minimal requirements and desires. As a visual goes, I'd look for something like a beaver (who builds things) wearing geek eye-glasses (indicating 'it's a maven'). For the love of god (if that happens to be your thing) please do not use a beaver. Go ask your closest English speaking North American why that's not a good choice. No one wants to see the maven-beaver-plugin. On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Tomcat... well they have a cat... fair enough Hadoop... has an elephant Hama has a hippo Solr has a sunrise Jackrabbit has a rabbit Chemistry has a test tube Openoffice has some abstract flying birds on a blue sky Karaf has a beaker with a feather on top ODE has a conductor with a feather instead of a batton Ant has the ant Flex has some strange abstract flexy thing Marmotta has a gopher Hive has an elephant-bee hybrid ... There is a limit to how many visually distinct animals you can render for a 75px tall image placeholder... But seriously, we just want something that is more than just our name in a fancy font. I think we need a mascot to help drive us onwards... -Stephen On 18 December 2013 13:27, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: A large, not very bright, species of deer that wears giant antlers and attacks what it doesn't understand. If that's what strikes you all as a great metaphor for us, Maven, or both, go right ahead. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org Thanks, Jason -- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl -
Re: New logo?
I think the logo should emphasis what the name maven means: someone who is an expert or connoisseur. Actually, I think the glasses on that animal brings out that imagery -- although I would like to see it emphasized more. The expertise could be also include blocks since modules/projects are the building blocks of maven. On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: For Benson... and just to put another one in the hat... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-4.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-4-big.png On 18 December 2013 15:38, Jason van Zyl ja...@tesla.io wrote: On Dec 18, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I think we need a new POM version to drive us forward. I agree. If no one else gets to it I'll write up something over the holidays to distill what Stephen has written and try and formalize some minimal requirements and desires. As a visual goes, I'd look for something like a beaver (who builds things) wearing geek eye-glasses (indicating 'it's a maven'). For the love of god (if that happens to be your thing) please do not use a beaver. Go ask your closest English speaking North American why that's not a good choice. No one wants to see the maven-beaver-plugin. On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Tomcat... well they have a cat... fair enough Hadoop... has an elephant Hama has a hippo Solr has a sunrise Jackrabbit has a rabbit Chemistry has a test tube Openoffice has some abstract flying birds on a blue sky Karaf has a beaker with a feather on top ODE has a conductor with a feather instead of a batton Ant has the ant Flex has some strange abstract flexy thing Marmotta has a gopher Hive has an elephant-bee hybrid ... There is a limit to how many visually distinct animals you can render for a 75px tall image placeholder... But seriously, we just want something that is more than just our name in a fancy font. I think we need a mascot to help drive us onwards... -Stephen On 18 December 2013 13:27, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: A large, not very bright, species of deer that wears giant antlers and attacks what it doesn't understand. If that's what strikes you all as a great metaphor for us, Maven, or both, go right ahead. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org Thanks, Jason -- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl - -- Cheers, Paul
Re: New logo?
+1 with the idea of a beaver or so. An animal building things would be a better match for Maven. The one you designed is already in the right direction. I would imagine one with an additional pencil on the ear and a helmet like this one for example: http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/vasca/vasca1112/vasca11125/11698348-draw-of-funny-beaver-working-in-helmet.jpg . 2013/12/18 Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com For Benson... and just to put another one in the hat... http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-4.png http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-4-big.png On 18 December 2013 15:38, Jason van Zyl ja...@tesla.io wrote: On Dec 18, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I think we need a new POM version to drive us forward. I agree. If no one else gets to it I'll write up something over the holidays to distill what Stephen has written and try and formalize some minimal requirements and desires. As a visual goes, I'd look for something like a beaver (who builds things) wearing geek eye-glasses (indicating 'it's a maven'). For the love of god (if that happens to be your thing) please do not use a beaver. Go ask your closest English speaking North American why that's not a good choice. No one wants to see the maven-beaver-plugin. On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Tomcat... well they have a cat... fair enough Hadoop... has an elephant Hama has a hippo Solr has a sunrise Jackrabbit has a rabbit Chemistry has a test tube Openoffice has some abstract flying birds on a blue sky Karaf has a beaker with a feather on top ODE has a conductor with a feather instead of a batton Ant has the ant Flex has some strange abstract flexy thing Marmotta has a gopher Hive has an elephant-bee hybrid ... There is a limit to how many visually distinct animals you can render for a 75px tall image placeholder... But seriously, we just want something that is more than just our name in a fancy font. I think we need a mascot to help drive us onwards... -Stephen On 18 December 2013 13:27, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: A large, not very bright, species of deer that wears giant antlers and attacks what it doesn't understand. If that's what strikes you all as a great metaphor for us, Maven, or both, go right ahead. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org Thanks, Jason -- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl - -- Baptiste Batmat MATHUS - http://batmat.net Sauvez un arbre, Mangez un castor !
