Re: [IxDA Discuss] Fwd: Dilbert showcases a reaction to design
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Andrew Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Juan Lanus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It also showcases a hardcore developer´s reaction. Dilbert reaction to the harsh critic on his design is to diminish it: his reply is almost a so what? In this stripe the author depicts Dilbert as a standard old fashioned IT engineer, for whom the design issues are worthless. -- Juan Lanus Juan, it is all design. The difference seems to be in the graphic design. I can see Dilbert's point. Sorry, I don't get you: what's Dilbert point? IMO the stripe depicts an attitude like design issues are not issues, or if it works than it's OK and the like. We developers developed for computers, not people, during decades. This is why usability exploded in the first internet bubble: normal helpless people exposed to engineers's gear. Engineers like Dilbert, the inmates. If it works, why should I care? It's the user's problem to find a blaze through the UI. Yes, it's all design, but there is better design and worse design. -- Juan Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
I am looking for sample of Terms and Conditions acceptance with a bit of a twist. Generally when I have set up TC acceptance in the past, there is a scrollable box with all the legal text followed by either a check box to say that you have read/accept the TC or there are radio button for “yes” and “no” about accepting them. In either case a person never has to actually read, or even scroll to the bottom of, the TC text. The common stuff... However I have a client that will not accept (no pun intended) this. Their legal team is insisting that the user is forced to at least reach the bottom of the TC before they can accept them. They do understand that this does not mean that anyone had read the text, but they want to be able to say that at least someone has been forced to reach the end of the text before accepting it. While I have some ideas about how to go about this, I was wondering if anyone knew of some sample that are online now that are doing this. BTW – This is not something that is arguable with the legal team about not having this capability. Thanks - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] [EVENT] IA Paris - Nov. 2, 2008
auff.. will be in Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] end of November... will have to miss this! :-( . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34856 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
The online game - Eve Online eve-online.com - implements this for their TC during the installation. When you scroll to the bottom of the text you get the option to accept or decline - but not before. This is an installed application rather than a Web site, but the principle is as you've described it. Regards Steve 2008/10/27 McLaughlin Designs [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am looking for sample of Terms and Conditions acceptance with a bit of a twist. Generally when I have set up TC acceptance in the past, there is a scrollable box with all the legal text followed by either a check box to say that you have read/accept the TC or there are radio button for yes and no about accepting them. In either case a person never has to actually read, or even scroll to the bottom of, the TC text. The common stuff... However I have a client that will not accept (no pun intended) this. Their legal team is insisting that the user is forced to at least reach the bottom of the TC before they can accept them. They do understand that this does not mean that anyone had read the text, but they want to be able to say that at least someone has been forced to reach the end of the text before accepting it. While I have some ideas about how to go about this, I was wondering if anyone knew of some sample that are online now that are doing this. BTW – This is not something that is arguable with the legal team about not having this capability. Thanks - http://www.ixda.org/help -- -- Steve 'Doc' Baty B.Sc (Maths), M.EC, MBA Principal Consultant Meld Consulting M: +61 417 061 292 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Twitter: docbaty Blog: http://docholdsfourth.blogspot.com Contributor - UXMatters - www.uxmatters.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design Research: Practice noticing stuff and telling stories
I forgot to mention I also use both Leap and Yep to store and browse the 2.5GB of PDFs and other docs in my reference library. I've tried DEVONThink a few times and found it good, but not really suited to the way I work. Best, Andy Andy Polaine Research | Writing | Strategy Interaction Concept Design Education Futures Twitter: apolaine Skype: apolaine http://playpen.polaine.com http://www.designersreviewofbooks.com http://www.omnium.net.au http://www.antirom.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
It's such an insane way of thinking about TCs though because it assumes people actually read them. Nobody does. At least nobody that I know. I once told a legal team from a bank that calling the legal info important information was terrible because it isn't important to anyone except other lawyers. Certainly not someone using the website. They agreed to legal information on the button instead, which of course meant nobody read it but they were covered. Sigh. p.s. To answer your question, sort of, Apple's installers do something similar. They show a screen of legal cack, then when you just hit continue it pops up an Accept Don't Accept alert that you have to click on one of to continue. Best, Andy Andy Polaine Research | Writing | Strategy Interaction Concept Design Education Futures Twitter: apolaine Skype: apolaine http://playpen.polaine.com http://www.designersreviewofbooks.com http://www.omnium.net.au http://www.antirom.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
Terms and conditions can be important and they do impose legal obligations so perhaps we should encourage reading them through good design. I bought some clip art once and since my wife is an IP lawyer was always encouraged to read the Terms and Conditions I discovered that I could use the clip art for up to one hundreds copies per presentation, but after that I owed the company some additional fees. If you own a small company and use open source software, you can lose some of the rights to your own intellectual property if you don't read the fine print when you integrate an open source utility with your own code. Perhaps we should encourage people to read the terms and conditions. Now I will wait to get skewered :-). Chauncey On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Andy Polaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's such an insane way of thinking about TCs though because it assumes people actually read them. Nobody does. At least nobody that I know. I once told a legal team from a bank that calling the legal info important information was terrible because it isn't important to anyone except other lawyers. Certainly not someone using the website. They agreed to legal information on the button instead, which of course meant nobody read it but they were covered. Sigh. p.s. To answer your question, sort of, Apple's installers do something similar. They show a screen of legal cack, then when you just hit continue it pops up an Accept Don't Accept alert that you have to click on one of to continue. Best, Andy Andy Polaine Research | Writing | Strategy Interaction Concept Design Education Futures Twitter: apolaine Skype: apolaine http://playpen.polaine.com http://www.designersreviewofbooks.com http://www.omnium.net.au http://www.antirom.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
The same applies to the immensely popular and disruptive game World of Warcraft. After every major update, the user is forced to at least scroll all the way to the bottom of the terms before Accept or Decline are accessible. On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:59 AM, Steve Baty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The online game - Eve Online eve-online.com - implements this for their TC during the installation. When you scroll to the bottom of the text you get the option to accept or decline - but not before. This is an installed application rather than a Web site, but the principle is as you've described it. Regards Steve 2008/10/27 McLaughlin Designs [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am looking for sample of Terms and Conditions acceptance with a bit of a twist. Generally when I have set up TC acceptance in the past, there is a scrollable box with all the legal text followed by either a check box to say that you have read/accept the TC or there are radio button for yes and no about accepting them. In either case a person never has to actually read, or even scroll to the bottom of, the TC text. The common stuff... However I have a client that will not accept (no pun intended) this. Their legal team is insisting that the user is forced to at least reach the bottom of the TC before they can accept them. They do understand that this does not mean that anyone had read the text, but they want to be able to say that at least someone has been forced to reach the end of the text before accepting it. While I have some ideas about how to go about this, I was wondering if anyone knew of some sample that are online now that are doing this. BTW – This is not something that is arguable with the legal team about not having this capability. Thanks - http://www.ixda.org/help -- -- Steve 'Doc' Baty B.Sc (Maths), M.EC, MBA Principal Consultant Meld Consulting M: +61 417 061 292 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Twitter: docbaty Blog: http://docholdsfourth.blogspot.com Contributor - UXMatters - www.uxmatters.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] NH UPA November Meeting: 10-Minute Talks, 11/19/2008, 6:00 PM -- @ AutoDesk
Topic: 10-Minute Talks When: Wednesday, November 19th Refreshments Networking: 6-7:00 PM – Food beverages will be provided. Meeting: 7:00 PM – 8ish Where: Autodesk, Inc. 100 Commercial Street Manchester, NH 03101 Summary: Presenter talks are strictly limited to 10 minutes and 6 slides max. Following each presenter, there will be 5 minutes for QA. This makes preparation and presentation easy and keeps things moving for the audience. For usability and user experience practitioners, you will find plenty of tips and tricks you can use in your job. For those who are new to usability, the variety of topics will give you a good idea of what the profession is all about. RSVP: Please send RSVPs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so we have an idea of the head count for the venue and refreshments. ***NH UPA meetings are always open to anyone who is interested in attending. Membership to the UPA is NOT required.*** Hope to see you there! Best, Kyle Soucy President, NH UPA --- Kyle Soucy Founding Principal, Lead Consultant Usable Interface Usability and Interface Design Consulting Phone: (603) 205-0315 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.usableinterface.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design Research: Practice noticing stuff and telling stories
i'm a fan of moleskins and have been carrying around some form of physical notebook since i was 14. numbered and catalogged, therye great to flip through years later for reference but prove auful as far as being any cohesive form of organization. i recently started posted somewhat religously to a completely unknown blog of my own for more public and comical observations as will initially described but i havent been able to convince myself that tagging is essential and the frequency of posts is sporadic as i enjoy the tangible act of writing. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34828 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
Perhaps we should encourage people to read the terms and conditions. Or perhaps we should not have quite so many terms and conditions and everyone relax a bit more. Copyright is in a tailspin anyway... Best, Andy Andy Polaine Research | Writing | Strategy Interaction Concept Design Education Futures Twitter: apolaine Skype: apolaine http://playpen.polaine.com http://www.designersreviewofbooks.com http://www.omnium.net.au http://www.antirom.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
Slightly away from the original topic, Chauncey I think you raise a great point... I wonder if the lawyers who insist TCs are prominent and must be fully 'eye-balled' to be accepted would be willing to take it a step further and look at the usability of their document? Maybe creating an index of important points in the end-users language (ie. not legal mumbo jumbo) and then reference the full text below? That way users are more likely to skim it, pick up relevant points and hopefully read further instead of thinking 'oh dear, yes I accept because it's too painful to read' or in Jack's daughter's case, actually wasting valuable years trying to understand :-) I'm thinking something similar in structure to the W3C Accessibility checkpoints doc, but obviously tailored for legal content: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10/full-checklist.html What do you think? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34863 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
Great intention, for sure. But doesn't that make the situation even more complex? You'd have to account for scenarios like I agreed to what was mentioned in the Simple English! versus Well, no, you agreed to the legalise. The Simple English and raw versions have no technical relation to one another in cases where the Simple English version fails to mention some sort of feature or caveat. On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Carolynn Stanford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Slightly away from the original topic, Chauncey I think you raise a great point... I wonder if the lawyers who insist TCs are prominent and must be fully 'eye-balled' to be accepted would be willing to take it a step further and look at the usability of their document? Maybe creating an index of important points in the end-users language (ie. not legal mumbo jumbo) and then reference the full text below? That way users are more likely to skim it, pick up relevant points and hopefully read further instead of thinking 'oh dear, yes I accept because it's too painful to read' or in Jack's daughter's case, actually wasting valuable years trying to understand :-) I'm thinking something similar in structure to the W3C Accessibility checkpoints doc, but obviously tailored for legal content: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10/full-checklist.html What do you think? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34863 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
Great intention, for sure. But doesn't that make the situation even more complex? You'd have to account for scenarios like I agreed to what was mentioned in the Simple English! versus Well, no, you agreed to the legalise. The Simple English and raw versions have no technical relation to one another in cases where the Simple English version fails to mention some sort of feature or caveat. Yes, I imagine that would happen. Lawyers write in that convoluted way in order not to be misinterpreted. Ironic huh? The law is an ass. Best, Andy Andy Polaine Research | Writing | Strategy Interaction Concept Design Education Futures Twitter: apolaine Skype: apolaine http://playpen.polaine.com http://www.designersreviewofbooks.com http://www.omnium.net.au http://www.antirom.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Joe the Plumber as Persona
Great point made by Lane Halley on http://www.cooper.com/journal/2008/10/joe_six_pack_is_not_a_persona.html Quote: When someone hears the name %u201CNora the newbie%u201D or %u201CJoe Helpdesk%u201D they draw on past experience to imagine someone they know, or project the context of other times they%u2019ve used the term into your persona. As a result, when a group work together to design something for such a persona (whether it's a Web site or tax policy), they each have different (often unvoiced) assumptions about who this person is and what their needs are. By using a more realistic persona name, and describing the behavioral characteristics you want to emphasize, you make it easier for everyone in the group to imagine the same person. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34398 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Liferay
Hello folks, is there anyone out there who has used or is using Liferay platform? How was your experience with it and what are your opinions about its usability and accessibility? Thanks, Maria Scopri il blog di Yahoo! Mail: Trucchi, novità e scrivi la tua opinione. http://www.ymailblogit.com/blog Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
Can't we make that the lawyers problem? ;-) Seriously, I wasn't thinking of re-writing the doc, more like a layman's reference... take for example Chauncey's case above about limited use of the clip art graphic. That's really important information that most people will miss. So the reference statement could say something along the lines of: 'Images are only free for a specified number of uses. *link: Refer to paragraph 93* So it was more of a highlighting guide than a summary, and you would have to read the legal version of the statement, but the point is you would know there was something that was applicable to you and would read it instead of accepting and praying, and possibly ending up with a horrible surprise and then feeling obliged to read every legal statement presented to you thereafter... oh the horror! I guess we would need to take a legal doc and test the theory, but I think it could prove interesting and certainly helpful to the end user (ps. I work in e-com web development so my perspective is from the shopping side of TCs) :-) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34863 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] IxDA and QA
Hi Guys, The company I work for is a very lean, fast moving company, and we're constantly looking for ways to tighten our product life cycle timelines. One thing we've noticed in the last few months is that IxDA (and general design practitioners) have been extremely valuable not just during the design phase of a product, but also during the ongoing Quality Assurance / Quality Control phases as well as the final Quality Acceptance phases of the product lifecycle. This being the case, we're experimenting with the idea of putting IxDA people in charge (or in review positions within) the QA process. I've been playing around with this model myself on a couple of projects with very strong results. The net benefit seems to derive from the fact that there is really no one better to certify that a product meets QA requirements than the very people that identified the necessary interactions, UI results, and full design elements to begin with. So far, this also seems to fit in nicely with the fact that our design team tends to be very busy at the start of the project (front loading interaction design and then visual design) and then gets much less busy as the development cycle begins and ends. It seems a really good use of our time to swoop back in after the design phase and act as part of the QA process, making sure that developers are conforming to our specifications via a formal testing structure. I was wondering if anyone else has had experience with this kind of structure, and if so, what challenges, results, and tips can you share? We're sort of excited about the idea on our end, as our initial forays into this model have really helped projects move along faster and with better results. Being a small/midsized team, we don't have a large QA department, so this allocation of resources seems to fill a lot of gaps. Any thoughts out there among my colleagues? Sincerely, Damon Dimmick Interaction Design (and newly QA) SitePen, Inc. dojotoolkit.org sitepen.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
Actually Terms and conditions are complex and in the USA, states generally follow the UCC, the Uniform Commercial Code, which generally harmonizes all the different laws into one that is complex, but can be used across state borders and one that lawyers recognize across the USA. So, complex terms and conditions are that way partly because of the many slightly different state (and international laws). Chauncey On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Andy Polaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great intention, for sure. But doesn't that make the situation even more complex? You'd have to account for scenarios like I agreed to what was mentioned in the Simple English! versus Well, no, you agreed to the legalise. The Simple English and raw versions have no technical relation to one another in cases where the Simple English version fails to mention some sort of feature or caveat. Yes, I imagine that would happen. Lawyers write in that convoluted way in order not to be misinterpreted. Ironic huh? The law is an ass. Best, Andy Andy Polaine Research | Writing | Strategy Interaction Concept Design Education Futures Twitter: apolaine Skype: apolaine http://playpen.polaine.com http://www.designersreviewofbooks.com http://www.omnium.net.au http://www.antirom.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] NH UPA November Meeting: 10-Minute Talks, 11/19/2008, 6:00 PM -- @ AutoDesk
Will you be posting the slides after the event? On 10/27/08 9:34 AM, Kyle Soucy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Topic: 10-Minute Talks When: Wednesday, November 19th Refreshments Networking: 6-7:00 PM Food beverages will be provided. Meeting: 7:00 PM 8ish Where: Autodesk, Inc. 100 Commercial Street Manchester, NH 03101 Summary: Presenter talks are strictly limited to 10 minutes and 6 slides max. Following each presenter, there will be 5 minutes for QA. This makes preparation and presentation easy and keeps things moving for the audience. For usability and user experience practitioners, you will find plenty of tips and tricks you can use in your job. For those who are new to usability, the variety of topics will give you a good idea of what the profession is all about. RSVP: Please send RSVPs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so we have an idea of the head count for the venue and refreshments. ***NH UPA meetings are always open to anyone who is interested in attending. Membership to the UPA is NOT required.*** Hope to see you there! Best, Kyle Soucy President, NH UPA --- Kyle Soucy Founding Principal, Lead Consultant Usable Interface Usability and Interface Design Consulting Phone: (603) 205-0315 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.usableinterface.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA and QA
Bravo. Having an IxD/UX person as part of the QA process is fantastic - even better is having the QA person involved upfront in the design spec/func spec writing process b/c then they are intimately familiar with the design trade-offs, compromises and root goals of any particular user scenario and the interactions actually implemented and aren't just writing test scripts against production, but also against the original intention. When I possible can, QA is part of the design process, at least the lead qa on the project, and the IxD/UX person helps write the QA testplan with the qa lead. The biggest wins for this approach are clear and obvious - as are the limitations which mostly are tight resources - the IxD/UX person having to move onto the next set of rquirements and designs for the next phase/iteration and not having time to fully devote to making sure what got implemented and tested is what was actually intended - this is even more crucial when development is outsourced to a 3rd party or overseas. I first implemented this type of process change back in late 2004 and have been doing it ever since, although I am continually astounded at the surprises I get from mostly PM/upper management - but I have never heard a complaint from a qa lead - they love being at the beggining of the process, and they appreciate the help and dialogue writing the test plan, and especially appreciate having the UX on hand during the actually testing. On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Damon Dimmick [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Guys, The company I work for is a very lean, fast moving company, and we're constantly looking for ways to tighten our product life cycle timelines. One thing we've noticed in the last few months is that IxDA (and general design practitioners) have been extremely valuable not just during the design phase of a product, but also during the ongoing Quality Assurance / Quality Control phases as well as the final Quality Acceptance phases of the product lifecycle. This being the case, we're experimenting with the idea of putting IxDA people in charge (or in review positions within) the QA process. I've been playing around with this model myself on a couple of projects with very strong results. The net benefit seems to derive from the fact that there is really no one better to certify that a product meets QA requirements than the very people that identified the necessary interactions, UI results, and full design elements to begin with. So far, this also seems to fit in nicely with the fact that our design team tends to be very busy at the start of the project (front loading interaction design and then visual design) and then gets much less busy as the development cycle begins and ends. It seems a really good use of our time to swoop back in after the design phase and act as part of the QA process, making sure that developers are conforming to our specifications via a formal testing structure. I was wondering if anyone else has had experience with this kind of structure, and if so, what challenges, results, and tips can you share? We're sort of excited about the idea on our end, as our initial forays into this model have really helped projects move along faster and with better results. Being a small/midsized team, we don't have a large QA department, so this allocation of resources seems to fill a lot of gaps. Any thoughts out there among my colleagues? Sincerely, Damon Dimmick Interaction Design (and newly QA) SitePen, Inc. dojotoolkit.org sitepen.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel: +1.617.281.1281 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: semanticwill gtalk: semanticwill twitter: semanticwill skype: semanticwill - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design Research: Practice noticing stuff and telling stories
I hadn't even thought of the back of the hand -- that's great. I once had both my thumbs broken at the same time and walked about with both arms in casts -- had I been so inclined, they might have made for a great note-taking device, and a semi-public one at that. In fact the history of writing on the body is long indeed. (some argue that writing itself began with ritual practices of a violent graphism excercised during rites of passage and similar ceremonies...) But seriously tho, I like to draft thoughts within blogger some times -- I find that using blogger even to take notes puts me in a narrative mind set. a On Oct 26, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Jeff Howard wrote: I keep notes in a small gridded Moleskin notebook. But more important is simply having something to write with. Always. In a pinch I'll jot down observations on the back of my hand between the thumb and index finger. I never knew you could write there until I saw the movie Memento, but it's a really nice affordance. The only formal process I have for non-project related research is collecting local papers when I travel. Helps to see the world though a different set of eyes. // jeff . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34828 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help cheers, adrian chan 415 516 4442 Social Interaction Design (www.gravity7.com) Sr Fellow, Society for New Communications Research (www.SNCR.org) LinkedIn (www.linkedin.com/in/adrianchan) Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design Research: Practice noticing stuff and telling stories
I believe there is a big problem with many tools available when it comes to storing your inspiration. It might take a week, month or even a couple of years but in the end you%u2019ll end up losing most of the context and reasons why you saved a piece of inspiration in the first place. No matter if you use a dummy/sketchbook, Flickr, delicious or even a .txt file on your desktop, it takes a lot of effort to organize your inspiration in a way that you can keep track of it later on. Together with two fellow Interaction Designers we made a project called PEF (Alpha working title). PEF is mainly a documentation tool for designers to visually document a design (or inspiration) without much breaking into your workflow. Reading the posts in this threat (and some other recent posts you wrote about personas) I%u2019m very interested to hear your opinion about our current Alpha version of the app. Posted a demo video on Vimeo: http://www.vimeo.com/1786174 Although we%u2019ve used data driven personas, the video is mostly about what the app can do at this moment instead of who can use it and why (new video coming soon after the first beta release). We wrote some more info on: www.deMonsters.com/PEF As I said before I%u2019m very interested in your and other people%u2019s thoughts. Erik van de Wiel . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34828 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design Research: Practice noticing stuff and telling stories
Does anyone use their iPhone/mobile device to send notes to themselves? How about refer back to their ideas that the posted to Twitter to follow up - with images attached? Just trying to get a feel for all the ways we keep track of the constant assault on our senses, how we process, store, and return to those inspirations, thoughts, ideas. On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:54 AM, adrian chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hadn't even thought of the back of the hand -- that's great. I once had both my thumbs broken at the same time and walked about with both arms in casts -- had I been so inclined, they might have made for a great note-taking device, and a semi-public one at that. In fact the history of writing on the body is long indeed. (some argue that writing itself began with ritual practices of a violent graphism excercised during rites of passage and similar ceremonies...) But seriously tho, I like to draft thoughts within blogger some times -- I find that using blogger even to take notes puts me in a narrative mind set. a On Oct 26, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Jeff Howard wrote: I keep notes in a small gridded Moleskin notebook. But more important is simply having something to write with. Always. In a pinch I'll jot down observations on the back of my hand between the thumb and index finger. I never knew you could write there until I saw the movie Memento, but it's a really nice affordance. The only formal process I have for non-project related research is collecting local papers when I travel. Helps to see the world though a different set of eyes. // jeff . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34828 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help cheers, adrian chan 415 516 4442 Social Interaction Design (www.gravity7.com) Sr Fellow, Society for New Communications Research (www.SNCR.org) LinkedIn (www.linkedin.com/in/adrianchan) Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel: +1.617.281.1281 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: semanticwill gtalk: semanticwill twitter: semanticwill skype: semanticwill - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design Research: Practice noticing stuff and telling stories
On Oct 27, 2008, at 10:58 AM, Will Evans wrote: Does anyone use their iPhone/mobile device to send notes to themselves? I use 37 Signals' Tada-List to record ideas for blog posts. They have an iPhone-optimized version that I use when out and about. Jack L. Moffett Interaction Designer inmedius 412.459.0310 x219 http://www.inmedius.com Some men see things as they are and say why? I dream of things that never were and say why not? - George Bernard Shaw Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design Research: Practice noticing stuff and telling stories
I have started using my iphone this way. I use the Unote (younote?) application to basically jot down random thoughts. I have a lot of these while driving for some reason, and if I don't write them down they evaporate. The key advantage of the iphone is that I always have it with me, unlike a notebook, and it allows me to record notes in a number of ways (write it down, audio, photos, etc.).I think it would be useful to be able to sync things from the iphone to a web interface, but knowing what I know about user research, just because I say that doesn't mean I would actually make the effort to take it one step further to manage stuff online. Eva Kaniasty http://www.linkedin.com/in/kaniasty On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Will Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Does anyone use their iPhone/mobile device to send notes to themselves? Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
Here some random thoughts. It occurs to me that you could do something like Creative Commons, for instance: the Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported license has a proper legal document at http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/legalcode but they also have the Human readable summary http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/ where they say This is a human-readable summary of the Legal Code (the full license). I'm pointing at this, because the human-readable summary is probably what you really need non-legal people to read, and what people would be more interested in, since it makes sense, because most of us are not lawyers. The point being that it might be possible to get people curious about a full TC through a human-readable version, and it might be actually a better way to introduce people to legal terms. Best, Leonardo. - Original Message - From: McLaughlin Designs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:46 am Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am looking for sample of Terms and Conditions acceptance with a bit of a twist. Generally when I have set up TC acceptance in the past, there is a scrollable box with all the legal text followed by either a check box to say that you have read/accept the TC or there are radio button for “yes” and “no” about accepting them. In either case a person never has to actually read, or even scroll to the bottom of, the TC text. The common stuff... However I have a client that will not accept (no pun intended) this. Their legal team is insisting that the user is forced to at least reach the bottom of the TC before they can accept them. They do understand that this does not mean that anyone had read the text, but they want to be able to say that at least someone has been forced to reach the end of the text before accepting it. While I have some ideas about how to go about this, I was wondering if anyone knew of some sample that are online now that are doing this. BTW – This is not something that is arguable with the legal team about not having this capability. Thanks - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design Research: Practice noticing stuff and telling stories
On that same note - does anyone email themselves notes to GooToDo? They have a nice way of emailing yourself todo's - but the same could be done for ideas - anyone using that tool as well? On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Jack Moffett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 27, 2008, at 10:58 AM, Will Evans wrote: Does anyone use their iPhone/mobile device to send notes to themselves? I use 37 Signals' Tada-List to record ideas for blog posts. They have an iPhone-optimized version that I use when out and about. Jack L. Moffett Interaction Designer inmedius 412.459.0310 x219 http://www.inmedius.com Some men see things as they are and say why? I dream of things that never were and say why not? - George Bernard Shaw Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel: +1.617.281.1281 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: semanticwill gtalk: semanticwill twitter: semanticwill skype: semanticwill - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Create a password: how to assist the user in complying with the rules you set
At any given moment, Bart Simpson could be able to answer all the asked questions to impersonate his father and purchase online an expensive Tommy Daly relique. As of the IP, in the company I work for we are hundreds, and we all share the same IP, or few IPs. It's at home that we share a public IP number among a few users. On the other hand, secure passwords are made of not only the 26 alphabet lowercase letters but also the 26 uppercases and the 10 digits and the keyboard shifting needed to change case. This shifting difficults the work of one that´s looking over your shoulder while you type. I get good security marks for passwords like ILikeThisOneSince2008. As of the original request, displaying the rules is a must. I'd show a bulleted list and would change to light gray the rules already complied to. The wording of these texts has to be done with extreme care to make them illustrative but not lengthy, prefer synthesys before completness. As of the 2 out of 3, I'd slap an ACCEPTED banner when appropriate. Also, I'd show several examples of compliant passwords to stimulate the shy users. -- Juan Lanus On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:31 PM, J. Scot Angus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I rather like the reminder question and answer that users write themselves as a first measure after the first failed login attempt... I also like, in the event of a subsequent failure, the we'll email you a link to reset your password approach, which, combined with IP logging and the series of identity verification questions (e.g., mother's maiden name, street lived on when born, etc.) works well without compromising too much. Correct answers to even more verification questions could allow the user to specify a new email address (but not preclude a warning/notice message to the old address, of course) in the event they no longer have access to the email account used when they set up an account on your system. I don't like using phone numbers and such for verification questions (well, for anything other than banking and the like) because it's dependent upon keeping the account up to date (and you generally do keep these up to date).. otherwise you have to remember what phone number you used (did I use my work number, and if so which one -- I have three.) Same goes for street address and the like. your favorite color can change over time. the name of your first pet, or street your parents lived on when you were born won't. .02 On Oct 24, 2008, at 6:20 AM, Jeff Garbers wrote: On Oct 24, 2008, at 8:36 AM, JimH wrote: .. I find it so irritating when sites don't tell the rules (and they're all different) until after your first or second attempt violates them! I'd like to add an appeal for password requirements to appear after a failed logon attempt, not just when changing or entering a new password. Letting users know those requirements may help them remember a forced variation on a password they usually use. Not that I'd ever use the same password on more than one system, of course, but I hear that *some people* do that...! Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA and QA
Hi Damon, I've been involved in this type of work so much that sometimes it makes my head spin. To echo Will's bravo and also his explanation of the benefits which you are seeming to see yourself. I've also found that being a part of the QA process has helped me to build closer relationships with my engineering/IT team because we are all in the thick of it and I can better see their challenges and pains in this phase of the project. One of the biggest challenges that I've seen besides resource constraints is both from a testing data point of view as well as a testing/defect management software point of view. First I find it increasingly hard to get the data I need to test the entire interaction even if I'm only doing high level testing. Usually, at least in my experience, because IT/engineering/QA are usually closer physically they can get their hands on this faster and because they are busy don't always pass it along. This is probably also due to the fact that I'm a new part of the process and there is nothing that says get the IA test data so that they can do interface/interaction testing. Secondly I'm usually not set up in or familiar with the software used to manage the defects. There is usually a lag in the time that I get an id/password and the time i've started testing. Then I need to account for understanding the software, and the IT/engineering terms in it that refer to our effort. Obviously once this is set up and I've used the software a few times I'm good to go. Hope this helps! Lis . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34881 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can an interaction designer creat (great)interaction without (great) visual design skills?
Hi Rein, I believe as Interaction Designer you should work closely with your visual designers (and developers, industrial designers, etc). In my opinion this part can never be missing. Some interaction problems can best be solved graphically or can better be combined with a nice piece of visual design. IxD is important, it makes sure that everything works the way it should (sounds easy when I type it :-) ). Anything big until the tiniest of nuances needed so the user has a great experience working with the product - or at least doesn%u2019t get irritated using it. Truth is that the visual design is often the first thing the user will notice. Any mistakes made on this part aren%u2019t necessarily killing (take myspace), but success will become more difficult and maybe even a guessing game when you ignore the visual designer. IMHO both should always go hand in hand. Best, Erik . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34316 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Fwd: Terms and Conditions with a twist
In the UK there is a campaign to make legal contracts simpler to understand. See:- http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/ they have a list of guides available here:- http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/guides.htm and a software tool for inspecting websites. http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/DrivelDefence.html James On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Chauncey Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Actually Terms and conditions are complex and in the USA, states generally follow the UCC, the Uniform Commercial Code, which generally harmonizes all the different laws into one that is complex, but can be used across state borders and one that lawyers recognize across the USA. So, complex terms and conditions are that way partly because of the many slightly different state (and international laws). Chauncey On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Andy Polaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great intention, for sure. But doesn't that make the situation even more complex? You'd have to account for scenarios like I agreed to what was mentioned in the Simple English! versus Well, no, you agreed to the legalise. The Simple English and raw versions have no technical relation to one another in cases where the Simple English version fails to mention some sort of feature or caveat. Yes, I imagine that would happen. Lawyers write in that convoluted way in order not to be misinterpreted. Ironic huh? The law is an ass. Best, Andy Andy Polaine Research | Writing | Strategy Interaction Concept Design Education Futures Twitter: apolaine Skype: apolaine http://playpen.polaine.com http://www.designersreviewofbooks.com http://www.omnium.net.au http://www.antirom.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] CALL FOR PAPER: aaate 2009 conference
Hello there, For those of you interested in e-Inclusion, Design for All/Universal Design, here is an event that will take place in Florence Italy, in summer 2009. Few topics: Technological innovation in Assistive Technology;The need for interdisciplinary/multidisciplinary approaches to the development of integrated solutions;The contribution of Assistive Technology and Design for All towards inclusion;Equipment interconnectivity and compatibility, covering hardware, software and wireless, to favor integrated solutions to inclusion;The need for standardization (formal, informal and de facto);Cultural aspects: e.g. acceptance of different approaches, designs and aesthetics of AT devices and inclusive living environments, high tech versus low tech, creative solutions for complex problems;Social aspects: penetration of AT and integrated approaches, the role of Europe in building up inclusion competence in emerging and developing countries, etc.;Technology transfer, towards not only AT industry, but also mainstream industry. For more info, please refer to http://www.aaate2009.eu/ Further discussion are very welcome!!! :-) Maria Scopri il blog di Yahoo! Mail: Trucchi, novità e scrivi la tua opinione. http://www.ymailblogit.com/blog Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
At 2:19 PM +0100 10/27/08, Andy Polaine wrote: snip Sigh. p.s. To answer your question, sort of, Apple's installers do something similar. They show a screen of legal cack, then when you just hit continue it pops up an Accept Don't Accept alert that you have to click on one of to continue. Just to be a bit compulsive here...You actually have to hit Accept to continue. Don't Accept will shut down the installer. Katie -- Katie Albers, Senior Director Web-Based Services Mary-Margaret Network Find. Grow. Work. Play. +1 310 356 7550 (voice) +1 877 662 3777 x 709 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mary-margaret.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Would you use shared home activity data? (CHI Workshop CFP)
Hi all, We are organizing a one-day workshop at CHI'09 (April 4, in Boston) focusing on the development of free, publicly accessible multimodal datasets recorded in the homes of volunteer participants. Although this work was initially motivated by the lack of high quality sensor data on which to test activity recognition algorithms, we would like to extend the usefulness of such resources to other disciplines such as design and home ethnography. Our lab is currently funded by the NSF to produce continuous (24/7) data recordings from at least four homes for six months each. Data will include anonymized audio and video recordings from most rooms, as well as activations from discreetly deployed sensing devices (motion sensors, RFID, environmental sensors, etc). We also have annotators on staff to label a subset of the activities in the dataset. That said, we need a reality check. Would you actually consider using this sort of resource? We will provide online tools to view the datasets and search for instances of specific activities (e.g. exercising, watching TV) or for use of specific objects (e.g. toaster, phone, paper towels). I could speculate as to how a design professional might use such information, but would prefer to hear your ideas. If you believe the limitations of such datasets (e.g. participant selection, observer effects) would render them useless in your field, I'd also like to hear your critique. Any suggestions for how we might improve the project overall would, of course, be welcome. Feel free to discuss here. If you were planning to attend CHI and wish to have your opinions heard at the workshop, more information is available at the link below. We would like to have a least one voice representing the designer's perspective. http://web.mit.edu/datasets/CFP.html Thanks for reading this far! Jason Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] [Job Posting] UX Designer - Blue Coat Systems, Waterloo, Ontario (full-time permanent)
Please contact Penny Curtis if you're interested. Blue Coat Systems is #1 in secure content and application delivery marketplace – with over 8,000 worldwide clients. They are looking to expand their UX Design team in Waterloo because they are in the process of a major re-write of their custom operating system. You would be involved in the full design cycle and have high visibility across the organization. Here is a link to the job description: http://www.redcanary.ca/view/human-factors6 -- Penny Curtis Recruiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] cheers, Lucilla Madamba Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Reminder: One More Week to Apply for Open IxDA Board Director Positions
A reminder that there's one week left! If you're considering stepping forward to become an IxDA leader, make some time today to apply. The Interaction Design Association is a global community, growing at an amazing pace and reflecting the increasing importance and impact of Interaction Designers on the world around us. Are you ready to rise to the challenge and contribute your energy and passion to help guide and shape our exciting future? Well here's your chance! The invitation is open for one more week for those inspired, creative, and active leaders in our community to apply for one of the three open positions on our Board of Directors. As our community and organization grows, so do our many challenges and needs. So, to meet that head on, we're seeking highly motivated individuals with excellent organizational skills, leadership vision, and who are resourceful and willing to roll up their sleeves and work to advance IxDA's mission. Applications will be open until Midnight Monday, November 3, 2008 (11:59:59 PST). IxDA Board Directors are responsible for providing leadership in key roles important to ensuring the strength of our organization and network. Board roles include executive, financial, local group liaison, educational, communication, and conference responsibilities. Board Directors must be willing to devote an average of four hours per week, involving communication and coordination with fellow Directors and the community toward our goals and associated initiatives. New directors filling these open positions will serve a term from January 2009 to February 2011, which includes a one-month long overlap with retiring Directors. We're confident that effective leaders will emerge from our vibrant community! If you feel you've got what it takes to work with others to help guide IxDA toward bigger and greater goals, we invite you to apply by completing this application questionnaire: http://www.ixda.org/board_application_2008.php Here's a preview of some of the questions you'll find on the application form: Your Background and History: What's your professional background, current title and work, and field? Are you, or have you previously been, affiliated with any other design or UX organizations? If so, in what capacity? When and how did you first get involved with IxDA? Have you previously volunteered for IxDA? (If so, in what capacity and with whom did you work?) Your Position Statements Please let us know in detail why you want to be a Board member of IxDA: How would you express the special value of IxDA, especially compared to related groups? What is your vision for IxDA? As a Board member, how would you plan on making your vision a reality? So now it's up to you! And if you know of IxDA members that you think would make great Board Directors, please encourage them to apply as well. James Leftwich Communications IxDA Board of Directors About IxDA http://ixda.org Founded in 2003, the Interaction Design Association (IxDA) is a member-supported organization committed to serving the needs of the international interaction design community. With the help of thousands of members worldwide, we provide a forum for the discussion of interaction design issues. IxDA's mission includes evangelism of our field, innovation in our discipline, professionalism in our standards of practice, support for interaction design education in academic programs, and community building for our growing global community of interaction design professionals. IxDA Discussion Forums: http://ixda.org/discuss.php Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
Commission Junction is using that kind of TC form in the application process. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34863 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
Perfect timing for this discussion. I get to copy paste my thoughts from another list. :) I think this is an interesting area for us usability folks to talk about. Does legalese really have to be written in a style that is inaccessible to 99% of the population? I would argue that there is a way to express even the most complex legal ideas in language that can be understood by the rest of us. I also think that the tradition of the 6 page terms conditions is often a subterfuge used to slip in terms that users would never agree to if those same terms were put forth in a briefer/clearer form. Legalese is a way to pay lip service to transparency while hiding behind an implementation that is anything but. To me, the very importance of legal considerations argues for making those considerations clear to those who are unwittingly entering into legal agreements by using websites or software. Some recent examples that come to mind are sites whose user agreements conveniently hand over rights to any user-generated content to themselves. Has anybody seen examples of sites that manage to cover themselves legally while using language that is clear and transparent? I have seen some examples on newer websites, but now for the life of me I can't remember where. -eva Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA and QA
Hi Damon, During the design phase I conduct reviews regularly with the leads from Development, QA and (System) Architecture and this has been very successful so far. I'm also the reviewer for the QA test plans. Before my arrival (the IxD position is brand new at this company) a very large number of bugs were being reported by QA that are now hammered out in the design phase. Those bugs created a lot of tension in the team as the Developers would close these bugs with the remark that it works as designed, which is accurate but not good, and then QA would have to escalate to the PM to intervene and round and round they went. All 3 of the leads - QA, Development, Architecture - have expressed how much they love the reviews. To quote the Architecture lead: I'm ecstatic we're working through this on paper first. Carrie On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Damon Dimmick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if anyone else has had experience with this kind of structure, and if so, what challenges, results, and tips can you share? We're sort of excited about the idea on our end, as our initial forays into this model have really helped projects move along faster and with better results. Being a small/midsized team, we don't have a large QA department, so this allocation of resources seems to fill a lot of gaps. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
The underlying issue here is how legal forms are evaluated. We can evaluate whether people understand the terms, but that is not the same as the evaluation that goes on in court. So, apart from all the opinion about reading comprehension, is there any empirical data on the efficacy of simplified legal forms over more complex legal forms. I see an assumption in these discussion that no one reads the TCs, so is it possible that we are making assumptions without digging in to the details. Perhaps there are many good TC's but we rarely look at them so we are biased toward only the worst examples. Chauncey On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Eva Kaniasty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perfect timing for this discussion. I get to copy paste my thoughts from another list. :) I think this is an interesting area for us usability folks to talk about. Does legalese really have to be written in a style that is inaccessible to 99% of the population? I would argue that there is a way to express even the most complex legal ideas in language that can be understood by the rest of us. I also think that the tradition of the 6 page terms conditions is often a subterfuge used to slip in terms that users would never agree to if those same terms were put forth in a briefer/clearer form. Legalese is a way to pay lip service to transparency while hiding behind an implementation that is anything but. To me, the very importance of legal considerations argues for making those considerations clear to those who are unwittingly entering into legal agreements by using websites or software. Some recent examples that come to mind are sites whose user agreements conveniently hand over rights to any user-generated content to themselves. Has anybody seen examples of sites that manage to cover themselves legally while using language that is clear and transparent? I have seen some examples on newer websites, but now for the life of me I can't remember where. -eva Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Thinking about obtaining a Ph.d in Interaction Design (mobile phones)
Hello members, as a recent graduate buying more books and reading these during my sparetime I have realized that I am a researcher. (By the way the book written by Bill Moggridge is amazing! `Designing Interactions`) At the moment I am jobless since most corporations wish to hire an ID, UEA or UA with several years of experience. I only have 2 years of part time usability experience. My thesis was written in co-operation with NOKIA and the topic was `preventing mobile phone interruptions`. I want to research more about how to design solutions that can prevent mobile phone interruptions. I argued in my thesis that Interruption Management as a technique would enable the caller and the callee to minimize interruptions. Reactive decision making and proactive decision making is something a user does due to the context one is in. A decent low involvement interaction design solution can also minimize the `interruption feeling`. Hence preventing mobile phone interruptions can be minimized by using Interruption Management and Low Involvement Interaction. I want to research about this and have thus decided to obtain a Ph.d in this. Can anyone help me out by giving me suggestions about other interesting perspectives on this? Maybe also tell me if any corporation is willing to help me out with an Industrial Ph.d OR any University anywhere? I am willing to relocate anywhere where I can persue this dream of mine. Thanks! Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
There is a way to ensure users actually read the TC: 1. Place a link or button labeled I read the Terms Conditions at the bottom of the terms... 2. ...leading to a multiple choice test on legal issues, that users must pass in order to continue. For extra points, change the questions on page refresh. That will prevent users from cheating, i.e., going back to find the answers. Only truthful users, who truly understand the TC, will be able to proceed. That would make lawyers happy, and the process as user-friendly as a subpoena ;-) -- Santiago Bustelo // icograma Buenos Aires, Argentina . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34863 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
On Bruce Tognazzi's words: it is the job of every designer to blunt and, where possible, eliminate the lawyer's attempts to sabotage your company's products. Full article: http://www.asktog.com/columns/049Lawyers.html -- Santiago Bustelo // icograma Buenos Aires, Argentina . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34863 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can an interaction designer creat (great) interaction without (great) visual design skills?
Yes, unless the people doing the hiring have confused interaction design with visual design. However, you will probably be better off (and more marketable) if you know about visual design, but I see it as more akin to having understanding something about programming (or whatever medium you're designing for.) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34316 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can an interaction designer creat (great) interaction without (great) visual design skills?
As a side note, I recently met with a recruiter for an interaction design job. In the job description they asked for people who could research requirements/competitors, define the behavior of XYZ in wireframes and written documentation, and conduct user testing, etc. However, for all practical purposes it seemed that what they really wanted was an information architect to make lots and lots of wireframes. That is interaction designer == information architect. They also stated that an understanding of visual design was desired, since you may work side by side with visual designers. Prototyping as a skill or responsibility was not mentioned at all. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34316 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] UCD process diagrams
I know that somebody has posted UCD processes diagrams on the web but can't find in the archive where they are posted. Any ideas? -Wendy Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
At 1:23 PM -0400 10/27/08, Chauncey Wilson wrote: The underlying issue here is how legal forms are evaluated. We can evaluate whether people understand the terms, but that is not the same as the evaluation that goes on in court. So, apart from all the opinion about reading comprehension, is there any empirical data on the efficacy of simplified legal forms over more complex legal forms. The problem is that legal language is differently defined than normal language. Take the infamous give, devise and bequeath language that is standard in Wills. Don't they all mean in event of my death this should go to this other person? Well, yes, but the problem is that legally give applies generally to personal property, devise is restricted to real estate, and bequeath refers only to transferring ownership of personal property by a Will. If a will is poorly written then it's possible that the desired transfer would not take place because the transfer wasn't properly described. So you can't just say I bequeath my house to my daughter, because she may end up owning the house but not the land under it. Similar issues exist throughout law...what sounds like the plain English translation may carry or fail to carry very particular and important pieces of the meaning of the statement. kt I see an assumption in these discussion that no one reads the TCs, so is it possible that we are making assumptions without digging in to the details. Perhaps there are many good TC's but we rarely look at them so we are biased toward only the worst examples. Chauncey On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Eva Kaniasty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perfect timing for this discussion. I get to copy paste my thoughts from another list. :) I think this is an interesting area for us usability folks to talk about. Does legalese really have to be written in a style that is inaccessible to 99% of the population? I would argue that there is a way to express even the most complex legal ideas in language that can be understood by the rest of us. I also think that the tradition of the 6 page terms conditions is often a subterfuge used to slip in terms that users would never agree to if those same terms were put forth in a briefer/clearer form. Legalese is a way to pay lip service to transparency while hiding behind an implementation that is anything but. To me, the very importance of legal considerations argues for making those considerations clear to those who are unwittingly entering into legal agreements by using websites or software. Some recent examples that come to mind are sites whose user agreements conveniently hand over rights to any user-generated content to themselves. Has anybody seen examples of sites that manage to cover themselves legally while using language that is clear and transparent? I have seen some examples on newer websites, but now for the life of me I can't remember where. -eva Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] What to teach interaction design students
Not sure how this would shake out in terms of actual classes but from the student perspective, I would say that the highest priorities while in school are: learn fundamentals that will be useful regardless of how you choose to specialize (25%), expand your mind by learning about the obscurities of the field and trying different things/theory(10%), learn marketable skills that will get you a job as soon as you walk out the door (60%). Community building is nice to have (5%), but it doesn%u2019t help you pay off your student loans (except when your alumni network helps you get a job!) For newbies, it seems like the best guide on what-do-I-need-to-know-to-get-a-job are actual job descriptions since they list specific skills. Unfortunately, they tend to ask for everything under the sun. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34437 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can an interaction designer creat (great) interaction without (great) visual design skills?
Hello Jonas Loevgren, i agree with you. I myself isnt a (great) visual designer yet I was able to communicate your `fluency` concept in my Low Involvement Interaction solution. (Thesis) Your work was suggested to me by my thesis advisor Tomas Sokoler. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34316 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Katie Albers [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Similar issues exist throughout law...what sounds like the plain English translation may carry or fail to carry very particular and important pieces of the meaning of the statement. kt That's a great point Katie. It seems like the necessity for the legalese won't go away. Still, the need for people to actually get some understanding from these agreements definitely isn't being filled. It seems like some provision needs to be made for paraphrasing and simplifying. Imagine if the legal agreement came in two parts: the first is a Human Readable version, which comes with the understanding that the fundamental legal terms are elsewhere, with a link. The second part is your standard legal-jabber. That's how creative commons does it: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/ Loren - http://acleandesign.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Ivrea Legacy ... Its like impressive
Slightly off topic...(apologies)... Ivrea was financially out reach for me a few years ago, but I'm considering [EMAIL PROTECTED] for next fall. If there are any, I'd be interested in hearing from alums, or others with insights into the program. My biggest concern is the practicality of its curriculum after graduation, along with ROI (big time!). I'm also considering a PhD eventually, so I guess I'm more interested in exploring my passions than fattening my wallet...at least in theory! ;) Any tips/leads here are also appreciated! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34678 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
Original question about 'how to force/ensure TC perusal prior to agreement':Years ago (early 2000's) I was branded by this experience where a TC dialogue box broke my expectations: After several attempts to click through, I figured out i *had to* scroll all the way through the TC text box before I could click Accept and succeed. Ever since then, I've been on the watch for others. It seems the original was something like AOL or Napster or MS Money. I've seen three versions of this: - scroll to bottom of text box where you find the call-to-action - scroll to bottom before being able to click - using a rich layer to show the call-to-action when a user tries to do something else Later question about 'why not have plain language terms': Southwest Airlines, www.southwest.com, has the most accessible terms and conditions i've ever seen on their ticket policy. In fact, I think I've seen both Forrester and AdaptivePath cite the example. This is exceptional because ticket policies are akin to the offspring of a perpetual motion machine and a Rube Goldberg machine. I'm guessing SWA's came from their corporate culture, not from the urging of a designer. The bottom line seems to be: The company will communicate clearly with customers when they communicate clearly with each other. I agree that it's our responsibility to help them see the value of and accept the responsibility for that task. I hope this helps. -Jay On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:17 AM, McLaughlin Designs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for sample of Terms and Conditions acceptance with a bit of a twist. Generally when I have set up TC acceptance in the past, there is a scrollable box with all the legal text followed by either a check box to say that you have read/accept the TC or there are radio button for yes and no about accepting them. In either case a person never has to actually read, or even scroll to the bottom of, the TC text. The common stuff... However I have a client that will not accept (no pun intended) this. Their legal team is insisting that the user is forced to at least reach the bottom of the TC before they can accept them. They do understand that this does not mean that anyone had read the text, but they want to be able to say that at least someone has been forced to reach the end of the text before accepting it. While I have some ideas about how to go about this, I was wondering if anyone knew of some sample that are online now that are doing this. BTW – This is not something that is arguable with the legal team about not having this capability. Thanks - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Jay A. Morgan Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Fwd: Terms and Conditions with a twist
Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Fwd: Terms and Conditions with a twist In the UK there is a campaign to make legal contracts simpler to understand. See:- http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/ they have a list of guides available here:- http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/guides.htm and a software tool for inspecting websites. http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/DrivelDefence.html The Plain English Campaign is in fact a commercial plain language consultancy. It has great publicity and does a lot to raise awareness of the need for plain language, but it did not invent plain language in the UK and it has competitors, most notably the Plain Language Commission http://www.clearest.co.uk/ In the US, the most authoritative source is www.plainlanguage.gov I've had trouble accessing this web site recently. There's a great group called Clarity which primarily lawyers who are interested in plain language, but has open membership and remarkably low dues considering the quality of its journal. US$25 per annum. http://www.clarity-international.net/ There is also Plain Language International (PLAIN), with lots of representation from the US and Canada and worldwide membership. PLAIN has a conference every other year; the next one is in Sydney, Australia, in 2009, October 15 - 17, 2009 Best Caroline Jarrett. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Liferay
Hi Maria, Yes, we (the company I work at) has been using Liferay (LR) with a few of our websites. LR was 'sold' to our company (as a CMS) on its drop-and-drag feature (sheer brilliance I was told) - being able to move content elements at will. This has led to all sorts of problems - not worth mentioning on this list. In terms of usability and accessibility it's a complete shocker...or rather non-existent. It could be that our off-shore developers used an older version of LR (doubt it) so the system may have changed/updated since then? An example of one of the sites using LR to deliver content is http://ttglive.com . The source code view reveals (home page) 57,033 lines of code. Cheers, Rob 2008/10/27 Maria De Monte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello folks, is there anyone out there who has used or is using Liferay platform? How was your experience with it and what are your opinions about its usability and accessibility? Thanks, Maria Scopri il blog di Yahoo! Mail: Trucchi, novità e scrivi la tua opinione. http://www.ymailblogit.com/blog Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter
Started using Twitter a couple of weeks ago. For example it is nice to see what people are doing in between their blog posts. Other than that when given the chance of getting to know some very interesting people is always something you at least try. My twitter: www.twitter.com/aapjerockdt Grtz, Erik . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34682 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design Research: Practice noticing stuff and telling stories
I have been leaving myself voice mails for 15 years for exactly this purpose -- it works best as a way of synthesizing one's thoughts because of course you dont want to leave too long a vmail (knowing that you'll have to listen to it later ;-0). I also take long showers and talk to myself while showering, tho i haven't sought after any kind of showerproof writing or recording technologies. And in the interest of full disclosure, when leaving myself a voicemail I do end with cheers man and then feel utterly compromised for an instant as I realize how easy it is to enter the mode/context of any communication tool... At the moment I have 20 or so windows open in Bbedit each containing notes on a different blog post idea. I'm going to give scrivener a try -- I like how it looks. I have a whiteboard covered with post its, and will often head to a cafe sans mac just to write on a clipboard. All notes are dated, themed, titled, and stored in a folder according to topic: e.g. SxD: psychology, or SxD: action sytems, and so on... I'd like to make better use of talking to myself and am going to purchase a discreet field recorder of some kind so that I can walk up and down the haight, muttering and brainstorming. I'm not kidding. I used to do this to try to capture others muttering -- once had a hapless and unsuspecting dude lean into the left channel of my stereo sonic studios mikes -- I hid them in a baseball cap -- and whisper thuddingly: doses, shrooms.. made my day and i still have the tape. but talking is much faster than writing -- if somebody has a solid recommendation on a digital recorder that you dont have to hold in your hands, that'd be what i'm looking for.. interesting discussion. it would be cool if there were a slideshare, or flowgram kind of real-time scrapbooking site that allowed one to post, record, archive (skype or other voip chat) communication, images, vid, webam, and notes, and designate public/private in order to solicit process feedback... cool, a On Oct 27, 2008, at 7:58 AM, Will Evans wrote: Does anyone use their iPhone/mobile device to send notes to themselves? How about refer back to their ideas that the posted to Twitter to follow up - with images attached? Just trying to get a feel for all the ways we keep track of the constant assault on our senses, how we process, store, and return to those inspirations, thoughts, ideas. On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:54 AM, adrian chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hadn't even thought of the back of the hand -- that's great. I once had both my thumbs broken at the same time and walked about with both arms in casts -- had I been so inclined, they might have made for a great note-taking device, and a semi-public one at that. In fact the history of writing on the body is long indeed. (some argue that writing itself began with ritual practices of a violent graphism excercised during rites of passage and similar ceremonies...) But seriously tho, I like to draft thoughts within blogger some times -- I find that using blogger even to take notes puts me in a narrative mind set. a On Oct 26, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Jeff Howard wrote: I keep notes in a small gridded Moleskin notebook. But more important is simply having something to write with. Always. In a pinch I'll jot down observations on the back of my hand between the thumb and index finger. I never knew you could write there until I saw the movie Memento, but it's a really nice affordance. The only formal process I have for non-project related research is collecting local papers when I travel. Helps to see the world though a different set of eyes. // jeff . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34828 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help cheers, adrian chan 415 516 4442 Social Interaction Design (www.gravity7.com) Sr Fellow, Society for New Communications Research (www.SNCR.org) LinkedIn (www.linkedin.com/in/adrianchan) Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel: +1.617.281.1281 |
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Fwd: Terms and Conditions with a twist
Plain English campaign - can we apply that in academia too please? Here in Germany the AGB (allgemeine Geschäftsbedingungen - got to love German nouns) are ridiculously long and companies frequently like to wriggle out of responsibility by citing them and pointing out that you should read them, even though they are often somewhat hidden and in microscopic type. I once printed out a receipt from an online purchase and got one page of invoice to ten pages of AGB. As a reasonably fluent but non-native German speaker they're pretty much impossible to decipher, especially as they also make references to various paragraphs in the law books that everyone is expected to know or be able to look up. Native German speakers can also not understand most of them either. It makes me weep. I think the important part here, both for the lawyers and the rest of us, is to think about why the TCs are there and what the intended purpose is. If it's just to cover arses then it is completely irrelevant whether anyone reads them or not. If they are intended to actually help people make an informed decision then it's important that people can decipher them and I would go for the Creative Commons style approach that others have mentioned. Then arses are covered and people actually understand what they're getting into too. A rich layer, somewhat like some of the password/login set-ups for sites like Plaxo might be a good way, but also cause potential accessibility issues. Best, Andy Andy Polaine Research | Writing | Strategy Interaction Concept Design Education Futures Twitter: apolaine Skype: apolaine http://playpen.polaine.com http://www.designersreviewofbooks.com http://www.omnium.net.au http://www.antirom.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design Research: Practice noticing stuff and telling stories
Evernote has a great iPhone app that lets you sync text, photo and voice notes with the desktop and web editions of Evernote. The only thing I miss from evernote is the ability to take a photo and draw notes on the photo. Andreas . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34828 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design Research: Practice noticing stuff and telling stories
recorrder of some kind so that I can walk up and down the haight, muttering and brainstorming. I'm not kidding. I used to do this to try to capture others muttering -- once had a hapless and unsuspecting dude lean into the left channel of my stereo sonic studios mikes -- I hid them in a baseball cap -- and whisper thuddingly: doses, shrooms.. made my day and i still have the tape. I just write on the walls in chalk until they let me out of my cell. ;-) Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
Sometimes it is worth just showing the Terms and Conditions for the purpose of capturing the user's click-through that makes it all worthwhile. It is impossible to make certain that users will read the terms and conditions. However, with the applications I have worked on, it seems that the act of acknowledgement of the terms and conditions covers the bases as much as the actual reading. What the acknowledgement does is provide an indication that the user was presented with the terms and conditions, and when they sign off on them, we capture that in a database so that we have proof of the acknowledgement. This is very important to us because we are usually telling our clients that if they use the information to trade, and the application is just for reporting, for example, they do so without our advisement and approval and basically, they shouldn't. If we have captured their acknowledgement, then we have at least some proof that it was seen. In the event of a major feature update, we re-release an updated acknowledgement and force it so the user has to accept it again. We capture this as well, so we have some modicum of protection. As to the usability of the document itself, that is really up to the involvement of the Business and Technology teams working on the document with Legal and Compliance. I have been involved in many of these meetings and have found Legal and Compliance very much willing to make the right statements. Oftentimes it is the lack of Business and Technology's involvement, in asking questions and explaining exactly what the application or site does and where the holes might be, that leads them to provide a form statement. Legal and Compliance wouldn't allow anything to be released if they had their druthers, because that is the ultimate protection. Jennifer Vignone User Experience Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy Polaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/27/2008 09:19 AM To IxDA List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist It's such an insane way of thinking about TCs though because it assumes people actually read them. Nobody does. At least nobody that I know. I once told a legal team from a bank that calling the legal info important information was terrible because it isn't important to anyone except other lawyers. Certainly not someone using the website. They agreed to legal information on the button instead, which of course meant nobody read it but they were covered. Sigh. p.s. To answer your question, sort of, Apple's installers do something similar. They show a screen of legal cack, then when you just hit continue it pops up an Accept Don't Accept alert that you have to click on one of to continue. Best, Andy Andy Polaine Research | Writing | Strategy Interaction Concept Design Education Futures Twitter: apolaine Skype: apolaine http://playpen.polaine.com http://www.designersreviewofbooks.com http://www.omnium.net.au http://www.antirom.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Generally, this communication is for informational purposes only and it is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. In the event you are receiving the offering materials attached below related to your interest in hedge funds or private equity, this communication may be intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of such fund(s). All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JPMorgan Chase Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design Research: Practice noticing stuff and telling stories
I've been doing this with my xv6800 (and before that, the 6700). I take pictures of stuff then when I sync, they get transferred to my incoming photo directory for me to sort/massage as needed. I've also started shooting video this way -- the xv6800 camera is 2M and shoots some pretty nice video for a camera/pda. Will Evans wrote: Does anyone use their iPhone/mobile device to send notes to themselves? How about refer back to their ideas that the posted to Twitter to follow up - with images attached? Just trying to get a feel for all the ways we keep track of the constant assault on our senses, how we process, store, and return to those inspirations, thoughts, ideas. On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:54 AM, adrian chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hadn't even thought of the back of the hand -- that's great. I once had both my thumbs broken at the same time and walked about with both arms in casts -- had I been so inclined, they might have made for a great note-taking device, and a semi-public one at that. In fact the history of writing on the body is long indeed. (some argue that writing itself began with ritual practices of a violent graphism excercised during rites of passage and similar ceremonies...) But seriously tho, I like to draft thoughts within blogger some times -- I find that using blogger even to take notes puts me in a narrative mind set. a On Oct 26, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Jeff Howard wrote: I keep notes in a small gridded Moleskin notebook. But more important is simply having something to write with. Always. In a pinch I'll jot down observations on the back of my hand between the thumb and index finger. I never knew you could write there until I saw the movie Memento, but it's a really nice affordance. The only formal process I have for non-project related research is collecting local papers when I travel. Helps to see the world though a different set of eyes. // jeff . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34828 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help cheers, adrian chan 415 516 4442 Social Interaction Design (www.gravity7.com) Sr Fellow, Society for New Communications Research (www.SNCR.org) LinkedIn (www.linkedin.com/in/adrianchan) Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- J. Eric jet Townsend, CMU Master of Tangible Interaction Design '09 design: www.allartburns.org; hacking: www.flatline.net; HF: KG6ZVQ PGP: 0xD0D8C2E8 AC9B 0A23 C61A 1B4A 27C5 F799 A681 3C11 D0D8 C2E8 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design Research: Practice noticing stuff and telling stories
Andy Polaine wrote: I have 33 notebooks going all the way back to my university days when I first started numbering them - these days they're mostly Moleskines or Miquel Rius ones (if I can my hands on them). It's not a terribly formal process though. They switch from being notebooks to journals to sketches to remember the milk. But I like the mix because it's a more honest record of things. I used to be really anal and ended up carrying around 2-4 notebooks, one for drawing, one for writing, one for remember the milk, one for sake tasting. What I do now is just have one and start from the front for serious stuff and from the back for remember the milk. When those get close to one another I start a new journal. With the current set, I'm also playing with the idea of having tabbed pages/sections for things that I update infrequently and that only take a line or three. It's working pretty well for sake tasting and the like, and I can just scan those two-three pages and stick them with related pages from the next notebook. -- J. Eric jet Townsend, CMU Master of Tangible Interaction Design '09 design: www.allartburns.org; hacking: www.flatline.net; HF: KG6ZVQ PGP: 0xD0D8C2E8 AC9B 0A23 C61A 1B4A 27C5 F799 A681 3C11 D0D8 C2E8 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can an interaction designer creat (great) interaction without (great) visual design skills?
Here are things in my apartment that I interact with that do not really have (great) visual designs: Microwave Digital display on my stove DVR/cable menu DVD/VHS player TV menu iPod - maybe the one exception...but really it's mostly text mp3 player alarm clock Here's stuff at work: Printer/Copy machine IP phone Vending machine Car radio (on the way to work) Badge security scanner (actually only consists of a dual LED, dual sound response, and a scanner, but everyone who's never used it before always sets it off b/c you have to wait 2 seconds before going through the gate.) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34316 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter
Cindy, I'd love your feedback on the msg i posted to twitter Oct 24 -- because you clearly read tweets with attention, and with a sense of narrative -- and the person you described is interesting in what they reveal -- my own posts are not nearly as content rich -- in fact are often ceremonial or part of a conversation, so they're often missing in content completely but are instead an agreement or approval, etc. -- some posters do seem to tweet the handling of interaction, some the content of their activities, some tweet to share/distribute, and so on. All tweets seem to at least announce presence and simultaneously declare availability for interaction -- something necessitated on twitter because there's no online now indication cheers, a On Oct 27, 2008, at 1:15 PM, Cindy Chastain wrote: Hello all, I'm arriving at the party a bit late, but I can't help but respond to William Brall's post, especially the part about about how The 140 character limit means you can't say much, which means the value of the tweet is in immediate impact. A few months ago, I responded to a fellow UXer's tweet about how, in his opinion, most tweets were either boring or valueless. A similar complaint to my mind. This might be true, but until you've experienced twitter over TIME, you will not see the value (and pleasure) in the on-going narrative created by twitterers who tweet about a broad range of thoughts, subjects and, yes, feelings. This, of course, applies only to those who tweet in a particular way, but I've found that many people I mutually follow tend to tweet about a range of things that all add up to an interesting personal narrative. For example, I've not only gotten to know someone I once met at a conference better through twitter, but I also learned that he plays the ukulele, likes grilling merguez sausage, is writing a novel in his spare time and has a wicked sense of wordplay. (Can anyone recognize this person?) The next time I saw this person at a conference, not only did I feel like I knew him a bit better, but there was a lot more I wanted to talk about. The more I get to know him, the more I want to know about the stupid cat hijinks as well as his opinions on web apps etc.; because with all this, I get dimension, something we often lose in other, more mono-message, communication formats. As Martin said above, the SUM really is greater than its parts. To me, one of the greatest pleasures of using twitter, apart from growing new friendships and discovering great insight, has been in experiencing the on-going narrative of these same twitterfriends as told through their running posts. I would also add, somewhat preemptively, that the brevity of the posts do not, imho, make for a shallow narrative, but one that is perhaps more poetic---like a synedoche. (But, then, I'm a sucker for this kind of thinking.) It's also not the only value I see in twitter, just one that stands out as fairly unique. Cheers, Cindy (twittering as cchastain) Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Cindy Chastain 917-848-7995 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help cheers, adrian chan 415 516 4442 Social Interaction Design (www.gravity7.com) Sr Fellow, Society for New Communications Research (www.SNCR.org) LinkedIn (www.linkedin.com/in/adrianchan) Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter
Ernest Hemingway was once challenged to write a story in six words. The result: For sale: baby shoes, never used. Perhaps it is time for the Twitter novel? andreas . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34682 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Dilbert showcases a reaction to design
I love that a simple strip like this--even if at the surface is deliberately making a jab at design--illustrates the daily struggle/compromise between 2 or more parties. Sometimes Dilbert cartoons don't strike the right cord with me, but we just had a conversation between our visual designers and our web developers about whose agenda goes first and some personalities clashed just like they're illustrated in the strip: The designers in this series of strips are being vague in their communications, which can come across as uninformed and haughty. Something that needs to improve to make a case. And, as was pointed out, the developer comes across as antiquated and uncaring about design, just interested in making it work. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34827 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] **SL-JUNK** Re: Twitter
Found: Baby. Needs shoes. ;-) a On Oct 27, 2008, at 8:41 PM, Andreas Ringdal wrote: Ernest Hemingway was once challenged to write a story in six words. The result: For sale: baby shoes, never used. Perhaps it is time for the Twitter novel? andreas . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34682 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help cheers, adrian chan 415 516 4442 Social Interaction Design (www.gravity7.com) Sr Fellow, Society for New Communications Research (www.SNCR.org) LinkedIn (www.linkedin.com/in/adrianchan) Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter
Wicked sense of wordplay? Ukelele? I guess Bill DeRouchey! Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
