[Elecraft] K3 1 mW tx calibration fails

2014-03-30 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci

Hello,
I'm trying the 1 mW tx calibration and it fails like this:

Elecraft K3 Utility for Linux Revision 1.13.4.15
K3 MCU revision 04.81. RS-232 speed 38400 bps.
Starting 1 milliwatt calibration.
Calibrating at 1.900 MHz
Calibrating at 3.750 MHz
IsSamplingComplete: Unexpected response 'DB 2.08 MW;' to ''.
Calibration power settled at ' 2.08 MW;'
1 milliwatt calibration failed.
Elapsed time: 25.2 secs

Any clues?

The dummy load I've connected is flat at 51 Ohm all throughout the
range (tested with miniVNA).

Pf

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[Elecraft] Linux and Operating

2014-03-30 Thread William Liporace - WC2L
The XP SP3 thread has changed into a Linux discussion. I think is pretty
neat! I have been running Linux in my shack for about 10 yrs. You can see an
article from a June 2007 QST  call AARA1, Murphy 0, by WA1KKM. That was the
year we got Linux running our local Field Day site. We have been using
OpenSuse for that and I typically run Linux Mint here at home. 
 
There are lots of Distros and choices. Most allow a bootable CD for you to
try. I think some even allow you to save some stuff to a USB drive and etc.
I am spoiled, I usually have enough PCs or HD s to just swap around. Don't
be shy to try a Virtual Box. Virtual PC or any of the other options out
there. 
 
For contesting I have been using KB by WA1KKM. You can also run N1MM 
WinTest in VMs and some do Wine. I have not done much of that I have enough
PCs to have a Windows PC too. There is also a new contest logging program
getting developed call CQRTEST (www.cqrtest.com) by Petr OK2CQR. Petr and
Martin OK1RR has also developed and very nice logging program called CQRLOG
(www.cqrlog.com).  Of course we all know what Dave W1HKJ  has done in the
Digital world with FLDIGI.  
 
For those who care, there is NO support for FSK in Linux. We don't need to
go down that road. Most logging programs use HAMLIB for the radio control. I
will tell you that KB does not. There is currently no support for the
Elecraft radios in KB, Walt has stuff going on and I just got the radio..
There will be ;-) I can also tell you that some of the keying circuits are
not quite standard..
 
Like anything, there is not a one size fits all. Some like Windows, MAC and
Linux, the you have some like Elecraft, Yaesu, Kenwood and etc. Or some like
SSB, CW, Digital modes.. you get the idea ;-) This is a great hobby with
mostly great people. Love learning and playing! 
 
Will WC2L 
http://www.wc2l.com
http://dxc.wc2l.com 
dxc.wc2l.com - AR-Cluster Node
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Linux and Operating

2014-03-30 Thread Chester Alderman
Yes the discussion has changed into a Linux discussion. Would you please
remind me what relevance computer operating systems has to do with Elecraft
amateur radio gear? IMHO, it sure would be more appropriate to discuss
operating systems on a computer related reflector.

Tom - W4BQF

 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of William Liporace -
WC2L
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 6:24 AM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Linux and Operating

The XP SP3 thread has changed into a Linux discussion. I think is pretty
neat! I have been running Linux in my shack for about 10 yrs. You can see an
article from a June 2007 QST  call AARA1, Murphy 0, by WA1KKM. That was the
year we got Linux running our local Field Day site. We have been using
OpenSuse for that and I typically run Linux Mint here at home. 
 
There are lots of Distros and choices. Most allow a bootable CD for you to
try. I think some even allow you to save some stuff to a USB drive and etc.
I am spoiled, I usually have enough PCs or HD s to just swap around. Don't
be shy to try a Virtual Box. Virtual PC or any of the other options out
there. 
 
For contesting I have been using KB by WA1KKM. You can also run N1MM 
WinTest in VMs and some do Wine. I have not done much of that I have enough
PCs to have a Windows PC too. There is also a new contest logging program
getting developed call CQRTEST (www.cqrtest.com) by Petr OK2CQR. Petr and
Martin OK1RR has also developed and very nice logging program called CQRLOG
(www.cqrlog.com).  Of course we all know what Dave W1HKJ  has done in the
Digital world with FLDIGI.  
 
For those who care, there is NO support for FSK in Linux. We don't need to
go down that road. Most logging programs use HAMLIB for the radio control. I
will tell you that KB does not. There is currently no support for the
Elecraft radios in KB, Walt has stuff going on and I just got the radio..
There will be ;-) I can also tell you that some of the keying circuits are
not quite standard..
 
Like anything, there is not a one size fits all. Some like Windows, MAC and
Linux, the you have some like Elecraft, Yaesu, Kenwood and etc. Or some like
SSB, CW, Digital modes.. you get the idea ;-) This is a great hobby with
mostly great people. Love learning and playing! 
 
Will WC2L
http://www.wc2l.com
http://dxc.wc2l.com
dxc.wc2l.com - AR-Cluster Node
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Linux and Operating

2014-03-30 Thread VK4JRC
In my Windows 8.1 Tablet post..I simply told everyone I had success making 
it work with the KX3 Utility, did I cross the line somewhere by posting about 
an operating system?

73,

Jack VK4JRC

Club.www.cqara.org.au
Member WIA SARL ARRL 
GQRP   #14392
QRPARCI #15068
VKQRP.#833

 On 30 Mar 2014, at 9:29 pm, Chester Alderman alderm...@windstream.net 
 wrote:
 
 Yes the discussion has changed into a Linux discussion. Would you please
 remind me what relevance computer operating systems has to do with Elecraft
 amateur radio gear? IMHO, it sure would be more appropriate to discuss
 operating systems on a computer related reflector.
 
 Tom - W4BQF
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of William Liporace -
 WC2L
 Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 6:24 AM
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] Linux and Operating
 
 The XP SP3 thread has changed into a Linux discussion. I think is pretty
 neat! I have been running Linux in my shack for about 10 yrs. You can see an
 article from a June 2007 QST  call AARA1, Murphy 0, by WA1KKM. That was the
 year we got Linux running our local Field Day site. We have been using
 OpenSuse for that and I typically run Linux Mint here at home. 
 
 There are lots of Distros and choices. Most allow a bootable CD for you to
 try. I think some even allow you to save some stuff to a USB drive and etc.
 I am spoiled, I usually have enough PCs or HD s to just swap around. Don't
 be shy to try a Virtual Box. Virtual PC or any of the other options out
 there. 
 
 For contesting I have been using KB by WA1KKM. You can also run N1MM 
 WinTest in VMs and some do Wine. I have not done much of that I have enough
 PCs to have a Windows PC too. There is also a new contest logging program
 getting developed call CQRTEST (www.cqrtest.com) by Petr OK2CQR. Petr and
 Martin OK1RR has also developed and very nice logging program called CQRLOG
 (www.cqrlog.com).  Of course we all know what Dave W1HKJ  has done in the
 Digital world with FLDIGI.  
 
 For those who care, there is NO support for FSK in Linux. We don't need to
 go down that road. Most logging programs use HAMLIB for the radio control. I
 will tell you that KB does not. There is currently no support for the
 Elecraft radios in KB, Walt has stuff going on and I just got the radio..
 There will be ;-) I can also tell you that some of the keying circuits are
 not quite standard..
 
 Like anything, there is not a one size fits all. Some like Windows, MAC and
 Linux, the you have some like Elecraft, Yaesu, Kenwood and etc. Or some like
 SSB, CW, Digital modes.. you get the idea ;-) This is a great hobby with
 mostly great people. Love learning and playing! 
 
 Will WC2L
 http://www.wc2l.com
 http://dxc.wc2l.com
 dxc.wc2l.com - AR-Cluster Node
 
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[Elecraft] The old mic question for the NEW KX3 owner..Sorry

2014-03-30 Thread John Lawrence






First of all, the KX3 is a sweet radio and have it running quickly with only 
small adaptations using my old 70 yo memory
bank from 5 years with the K3 and K2.  


Now that I've read all the historical material debating the alternatives to the 
MH3 hand mic

I'm still not sure how to get my trusted K3 Heil with a cable adapted to work 
with the KX3..  
Yes, I'd like to be able to interchange the Heil GM with the HC5 cartridge 
between the K3 and
the KX3.  


Using the KX3 I don't care about the up/dwn buttons but do want PTT.  So, this 
mic jack with 
tip/ring/ring/sleeve I would like to make up an entire new cable to go from the 
bottom of the 
mic  with a four pin 3.5 mm jack on the other end to plug into the KX3.  


Is there a pre-made solution available or what is the cleanest/simplest way to 
make a cable?  Looks like
Heil doesn't have one.  


Did I miss the end outcome summary for this transition to KX3?  This OT with 
interconnects in my life
since 1959 is getting too old to tease my brain on interconnect details. 
Instead I prefer the bigger subjects like JT65 stability for the XV-144 local 
oscillator.  Any Elmer's with the answer out there?


Thanks, John Lawrence,  W1QS

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Re: [Elecraft] SSB net cancelled for Sunday, March 30, 2014

2014-03-30 Thread jimk8mr
And instead, use your Elecraft radio to work some guys in the contest. 
A lot of them will be using Elecraft radios as well!


73  -  Jim  K8MR



-Original Message-
From: Phil Shepard ph...@riousa.com
To: elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sat, Mar 29, 2014 11:34 pm
Subject: [Elecraft] SSB net cancelled for Sunday, March 30, 2014

The WPX Phone contest running this weekend will make operating our net 
challenging, so let’s take the week off.  If we had more big gun 
powerhouse stations, we might be able to stand up to the QRM. We have a 
few, but we also have a lot of QRP check-ins.  Have a great week and 
we’ll see you next Sunday.


73,
Phil, NS7P



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[Elecraft] P3 display issue

2014-03-30 Thread Russ
I don't know what happened but my P3 suddenly has no spectrum display 
and the waterfall is solid pink at all span settings. I tried to reset 
the reference level but the only setting option available is nan.


The P3 still tracks the K3 VFO. I tried to reset the scale, power cycled 
the P3, checked the rear cables, reloaded the current firmware and 
adjusted the RF gain on the K3 with no change. I have been running 
firmware 1.26 for some time with no problems.


Serial number is 682 with no VGA adapter.  Any suggestions?

Thanks.
Russ- KG7VQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Linux and Operating

2014-03-30 Thread Bill W2BLC
Healthy discussion regarding operating systems is very appropriate to 
the world of Elecraft. Many ops use some form of computer assistance to 
their operations, whether for simple logging or complete rig control and 
digital modes. Of course, those not interested in the discussion may 
simply page on, not reading what does not interest them.


Bill Clarke K-Line

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 display issue

2014-03-30 Thread Alan Bloom

Russ,

That's pretty bizarre.  Try doing a parameter initialization as 
described in the Troubleshooting section of the manual.


Alan N1AL


On 03/30/2014 05:10 AM, Russ wrote:

I don't know what happened but my P3 suddenly has no spectrum display
and the waterfall is solid pink at all span settings. I tried to reset
the reference level but the only setting option available is nan.

The P3 still tracks the K3 VFO. I tried to reset the scale, power cycled
the P3, checked the rear cables, reloaded the current firmware and
adjusted the RF gain on the K3 with no change. I have been running
firmware 1.26 for some time with no problems.

Serial number is 682 with no VGA adapter.  Any suggestions?

Thanks.
Russ- KG7VQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Linux and Operating

2014-03-30 Thread Chester Alderman
No, I completely disagree with that opinion! To my knowledge Elecraft
designs, builds, and sells some pretty decent ham radio electronic
equipment, none of which REQUIRES a computer to operate. The moderator
guidelines for the Elecraft reflector recently re-published, simply asked
that off-topic discussions be held to a minimum, guidelines that a lot of
folks seem to just totally ignore!

Tom - W4BQF 
K3/P3 - Alpha 9500



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill W2BLC
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:09 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Linux and Operating

Healthy discussion regarding operating systems is very appropriate to the
world of Elecraft. Many ops use some form of computer assistance to their
operations, whether for simple logging or complete rig control and digital
modes. Of course, those not interested in the discussion may simply page on,
not reading what does not interest them.

Bill Clarke K-Line

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Re: [Elecraft] Linux and Operating

2014-03-30 Thread Anthony Marriott
Couldn't agree more.  If this discussion has tweaked a deeper interest in Linux 
for ham use, then check out the Linuxham yahoo group

Paul
AF5BV and proud KX3 owner/operator

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 30, 2014, at 9:09, Bill W2BLC w2...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
 
 Healthy discussion regarding operating systems is very appropriate to the 
 world of Elecraft. Many ops use some form of computer assistance to their 
 operations, whether for simple logging or complete rig control and digital 
 modes. Of course, those not interested in the discussion may simply page on, 
 not reading what does not interest them.
 
 Bill Clarke K-Line
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Linux and Operating

2014-03-30 Thread Phil Wheeler
On the other hand, the Elecraft web site does show 
such options at this page: 
http://www.elecraft.com/k2_remote.htm I think this 
discussion, as it pertains to operating with 
Elecraft transceivers, is relevant.


73, Phil w7ox

On 3/30/14, 8:10 AM, Chester Alderman wrote:

No, I completely disagree with that opinion! To my knowledge Elecraft
designs, builds, and sells some pretty decent ham radio electronic
equipment, none of which REQUIRES a computer to operate. The moderator
guidelines for the Elecraft reflector recently re-published, simply asked
that off-topic discussions be held to a minimum, guidelines that a lot of
folks seem to just totally ignore!

Tom - W4BQF
K3/P3 - Alpha 9500



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill W2BLC
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:09 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Linux and Operating

Healthy discussion regarding operating systems is very appropriate to the
world of Elecraft. Many ops use some form of computer assistance to their
operations, whether for simple logging or complete rig control and digital
modes. Of course, those not interested in the discussion may simply page on,
not reading what does not interest them.

Bill Clarke K-Line





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Re: [Elecraft] Linux and Operating

2014-03-30 Thread Phil Hystad
I too agree that this discussion has merit on the Elecraft web page.  But, all 
such discussions do run their course and should end eventually.  Even an 
on-topic K3 discussion needs to end at some point and Eric has done that in 
times passed.

I think the idea of jumping over to the Yahoo group Linuxham to continue Linux 
talk is a good suggestion.  Or, maybe someone should create an ElecraftOpSys 
group to discuss the pros/cons, merits, demerits, and troubles of various 
operating systems in use with applications associated with Elecraft.

73, phil, K7PEH


On Mar 30, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:

 On the other hand, the Elecraft web site does show such options at this page: 
 http://www.elecraft.com/k2_remote.htm I think this discussion, as it pertains 
 to operating with Elecraft transceivers, is relevant.
 
 73, Phil w7ox
 
 On 3/30/14, 8:10 AM, Chester Alderman wrote:
 No, I completely disagree with that opinion! To my knowledge Elecraft
 designs, builds, and sells some pretty decent ham radio electronic
 equipment, none of which REQUIRES a computer to operate. The moderator
 guidelines for the Elecraft reflector recently re-published, simply asked
 that off-topic discussions be held to a minimum, guidelines that a lot of
 folks seem to just totally ignore!
 
 Tom - W4BQF
 K3/P3 - Alpha 9500
 
 
 
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 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill W2BLC
 Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:09 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Linux and Operating
 
 Healthy discussion regarding operating systems is very appropriate to the
 world of Elecraft. Many ops use some form of computer assistance to their
 operations, whether for simple logging or complete rig control and digital
 modes. Of course, those not interested in the discussion may simply page on,
 not reading what does not interest them.
 
 Bill Clarke K-Line
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Linux and Operating

2014-03-30 Thread Bill Turner

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:  (may be snipped)

On 3/30/2014 3:24 AM, William Liporace - WC2L wrote:
  
For those who care, there is NO support for FSK in Linux. We don't need to

go down that road.


REPLY:

Once again. Linux shoots itself in the foot.

73, Bill W6WRT

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[Elecraft] The net is on today

2014-03-30 Thread Phil Shepard
Perhaps I overreacted to the contest.  I listened to the area around our net 
frequency this morning, and it’s not that bad.  So, let’s go ahead with the net 
on the regular frequency.

Sunday, March 30, 2014
1800Z
14.3035 MHz
 
Hope to see you there.

73,
Phil, NS7P


On Mar 29, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Phil Shepard ph...@riousa.com wrote:

 The WPX Phone contest running this weekend will make operating our net 
 challenging, so let’s take the week off.  If we had more big gun powerhouse 
 stations, we might be able to stand up to the QRM. We have a few, but we also 
 have a lot of QRP check-ins.  Have a great week and we’ll see you next Sunday.
 
 73,
 Phil, NS7P
 

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Re: [Elecraft] The old mic question for the NEW KX3 owner..Sorry

2014-03-30 Thread David Shoaf
Hi John,

This should get you going:

MENU Set ups for the older Heil versions of the MH3 with dynamic mic
elements:

- MENU:  MIC BTN = PTT  (not PTT up dn)
- MENU:  MIC BIAS = OFF

Wiring:

On KX3, use a 1/8 (3.5mm) plug.  Don't worry about the 2nd ring on the
picture shown in the KX3 Owner's Manual - the 2nd ring is for the up/dn
buttons.  This means we get to use the more common 1/8 Tip-Ring-Sleeve
(TRS) plug.

MH-2 pin ---  KX3 pin #
- --

  1  (MIC)Tip

  2   PTT Ring

 7,8  GND   Sleeve

So, you'd need the standard 8-pin socket to match the MH2's 8-pin plug to a
1/8 TRS plug (Radio Shack has those) and you're there.

As for someone to make up a cable for you,  here's an eBay vendor
http://stores.ebay.com/W7YENs-AMATEUR-RADIO-HELPERS?_trksid=p2047675.l2563  
- I have no experience with him - who appears to be able to do this for you. 

Cheers,

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Re: [Elecraft] The old mic question for the NEW KX3 owner..Sorry

2014-03-30 Thread Nr4c
I think is try one of two ideas. 
1 amazon has available a 3 or 4 foot cable that has a rt angle TRRS plug on 
one end and a straight TRRS plug on the other.  Cut one end off and connect the 
cable to an XLR 4 pin plug to plug into mic. 

2 use above TRRS cable and just cut off the rt angle plug and graft it to a 
Heil cable. 

As I recall the Amazon cable was pretty inexpensive, thin and red. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


 On Mar 30, 2014, at 8:19 AM, John Lawrence j123...@aol.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 First of all, the KX3 is a sweet radio and have it running quickly with only 
 small adaptations using my old 70 yo memory
 bank from 5 years with the K3 and K2.  
 
 
 Now that I've read all the historical material debating the alternatives to 
 the MH3 hand mic
 
 I'm still not sure how to get my trusted K3 Heil with a cable adapted to work 
 with the KX3..  
 Yes, I'd like to be able to interchange the Heil GM with the HC5 cartridge 
 between the K3 and
 the KX3.  
 
 
 Using the KX3 I don't care about the up/dwn buttons but do want PTT.  So, 
 this mic jack with 
 tip/ring/ring/sleeve I would like to make up an entire new cable to go from 
 the bottom of the 
 mic  with a four pin 3.5 mm jack on the other end to plug into the KX3.  
 
 
 Is there a pre-made solution available or what is the cleanest/simplest way 
 to make a cable?  Looks like
 Heil doesn't have one.  
 
 
 Did I miss the end outcome summary for this transition to KX3?  This OT with 
 interconnects in my life
 since 1959 is getting too old to tease my brain on interconnect details. 
 Instead I prefer the bigger subjects like JT65 stability for the XV-144 local 
 oscillator.  Any Elmer's with the answer out there?
 
 
 Thanks, John Lawrence,  W1QS
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Linux and Operating

2014-03-30 Thread David Woolley
Linux had AFSK support in the kernel a decade ago.  Modern versions use 
a user space program, for this.


On 30/03/14 16:44, Bill Turner wrote:

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:  (may be snipped)

On 3/30/2014 3:24 AM, William Liporace - WC2L wrote:

For those who care, there is NO support for FSK in Linux. We don't
need to
go down that road.


REPLY:

Once again. Linux shoots itself in the foot.



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Re: [Elecraft] Linux and Operating

2014-03-30 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 30 Mar 05:26 -0500, William Liporace - WC2L wrote:
 There is also a new contest logging program
 getting developed call CQRTEST (www.cqrtest.com) by Petr OK2CQR. Petr and
 Martin OK1RR has also developed and very nice logging program called CQRLOG
 (www.cqrlog.com).

I've used CQRlog for several years and am pleased with its LoTW and eQSL
integration.  I was unaware that Petr and Martin were working on
CQRtest.  Thanks for the link and now that I know I can check it out.

Speaking as the current maintainer for Hamlib, there are some patches
pending that I've not gotten to due to moving (I didn't know I had THAT
much stuff!) and emergency overtime at work last week.  Once things
settle down I will get those integrated into the development branch, one
of which includes some K3 updates as I recall.

 Of course we all know what Dave W1HKJ  has done in the Digital world
 with FLDIGI.

For most of us writing software in the POSIX (I prefer that term as it
encompasses all of the UNIX and Unix like systems) it is our sub-hobby
of the amateur radio hobby.  Dave may be the closest I am aware of to a
professional developer and his efforts are most welcome.  He has also
pushed me to learn various aspects of programming and Hamlib that I
otherwise may have ignored and (I hope) the larger community has
benefitted.

73, de Nate 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 1 mW tx calibration fails

2014-03-30 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci

Solved. For those checking the archives, it was an outdated k3util,
upgraded that and all went good.

Pf

 Pierfrancesco == Pierfrancesco Caci p...@tippete.net writes:


Pierfrancesco Hello,
Pierfrancesco I'm trying the 1 mW tx calibration and it fails like this:

Pierfrancesco Elecraft K3 Utility for Linux Revision 1.13.4.15
Pierfrancesco K3 MCU revision 04.81. RS-232 speed 38400 bps.
Pierfrancesco Starting 1 milliwatt calibration.
Pierfrancesco Calibrating at 1.900 MHz
Pierfrancesco Calibrating at 3.750 MHz
Pierfrancesco IsSamplingComplete: Unexpected response 'DB 2.08 MW;' to ''.
Pierfrancesco Calibration power settled at ' 2.08 MW;'
Pierfrancesco 1 milliwatt calibration failed.
Pierfrancesco Elapsed time: 25.2 secs

Pierfrancesco Any clues?

Pierfrancesco The dummy load I've connected is flat at 51 Ohm all 
throughout the
Pierfrancesco range (tested with miniVNA).

Pierfrancesco Pf

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Re: [Elecraft] Linux and Operating

2014-03-30 Thread Anthony Marriott
Bill,
The whole idea of Linux came from a passion to develop free software, based on 
need and not necessarily mass demand - most hams, and certainly Elecraft nuts 
like we are, fit into that category (i.e. we need stuff that the masses don't). 
 Hence the GNU (GNU is Not Unix) project, which by the way was developed in 
the 80's by some real smart folks at MIT who just produced free Unix apps and 
utilities - a guy in Finland put it all together and created the Linux kernel 
we all use today.  Note too that Microsoft and OSX use many GNU 
applications/utilities, and that the Android and Chrome OS are both Linux 
distro's with proprietary add-ins.

If you want FSK support, then I suggest you go to the Linuxham group and pose 
the question - I am sure with all the Linux developers out there that are also 
ham radio enthusiasts, someone has either done it or will be willing to help.

Paul
AF5BV


On Mar 30, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Bill Turner dezrat1...@wildblue.net wrote:

 ORIGINAL MESSAGE:  (may be snipped)
 
 On 3/30/2014 3:24 AM, William Liporace - WC2L wrote:
  For those who care, there is NO support for FSK in Linux. We don't need to
 go down that road.
 
 REPLY:
 
 Once again. Linux shoots itself in the foot.
 
 73, Bill W6WRT
 
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[Elecraft] K3 Remote - Latency

2014-03-30 Thread Brian Linn
All:

 

Has anyone measured the latency when using the K3/0 to run a remote K3? Is
it good enough for contesting?

 

73' Brian KD0HII

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Re: [Elecraft] The old mic question for the NEW KX3 owner..Sorry

2014-03-30 Thread John Lawrence
Bill


Thank you for your information.  These TRRS plugs and cables are often hard to 
work with
due to the fine wire used on the computer interconnect business.  I'm going to 
explore the XLR 4 
and TRSS with plug sources.  Up here outside Southern Maine it's all about over 
the Internet sourcing.  


John, W1QS
 






 
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[Elecraft] WTB: K3 Accessories

2014-03-30 Thread Paul Lonnquist
I know, mission impossible, but sometimes the impossible happens.

I am looking to purchase the following accessories:

1.  KTCXO3-1  TCXO  (0.1 ppm typ) High Stability Reference Oscillator
2.  KDVR3  Digital Voice Recorder
3.  KFL3A-1.8K  1.8 kHz, 8-pole filter
4.  KFL3A-400400 Hz, 8-pole filter
5.  KFL3A-250250 Hz, 8-pole filter
6.  KBPF3  General Coverage RX Bandpass Module

No particular order of purchase, eventually want them all.
Then I look for a 2nd receiver for the rig.  Once I have invested the
additional
Dollars, then I¹m sure that K4 will come out and ruin everything!!

So, if you have these in your radio and don¹t want them, I do.  Please send
info on what
You have and your asking price to me.  Email is good at QRZ.

Thanks and 73, Paul NS6V


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[Elecraft] K3: I/O P3SVGA boards meshing

2014-03-30 Thread Larry Gerhardstein
I am having difficulty meshing the SVGA board to the I/O board.  Any 
suggestions?


73, Larry W7IN

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Re: [Elecraft] P3: I/O P3SVGA boards meshing (correction)

2014-03-30 Thread Larry Gerhardstein

Correction, meant to say the P3 I/O and SVGA boards.  Sorry

On 3/30/2014 20:05, Larry Gerhardstein wrote:
I am having difficulty meshing the SVGA board to the I/O board.  Any 
suggestions?


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Re: [Elecraft] P3: I/O P3SVGA boards meshing (correction) (disregard)

2014-03-30 Thread Larry Gerhardstein
Please disregard post.  I finally got the boards to fully mesh.  Tnx  
73 all, Larry W7IN


On 3/30/2014 20:10, Larry Gerhardstein wrote:

Correction, meant to say the P3 I/O and SVGA boards.  Sorry

On 3/30/2014 20:05, Larry Gerhardstein wrote:
I am having difficulty meshing the SVGA board to the I/O board. Any 
suggestions?


73, Larry W7IN



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[Elecraft] K3 in WPX SSB with 2.7 roofer

2014-03-30 Thread Dave Hachadorian
I was in the WPX SSB contest this weekend, and wanted to try 
using just the 2.7 roofing filter, using only DSP to narrow the 
response below that.  I previously have had the feeling that the 
1.8 roofer was degrading speech intelligibility.  The WPX is a 
QRM-fest of the first order.  Everybody can work everybody, so 
the whole world is doing their own thing all the time.  15 meters 
was particularly bad, with almost nobody having a clear channel.


Using only the 2.7 filter, I never experienced a case of 
adjacent-signal AGC pumping, or any other negative issue during 
the contest.  I think if an SSB signal is so close to you that it 
is pumping your agc through the 2.7 filter, the frequency is 
hopelessly splattered anyway, and you'd best be moving on.  I did 
narrow the DSP down by using HI CUT, and usually ran it at 
LOW=0.15 and HIGH=2.25.


I could be persuaded to part with my pair of 1.8 filters, if 
someone is interested in them.


Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Remote - Latency

2014-03-30 Thread Rick Tavan N6XI
Yes, it can be good enough for contesting. I ran one CW Sprint with it and
it was adequate. I had to run low power because the amp wasn't yet
accessible remotely (It is now.) and I was single-radio. So my 218 Qs is
hard to compare to the 280-310 that I would have expected locally, high
power and SO2R. But most importantly, I didn't feel that latency was much
of an issue. That's surprising because of the rapid turnover at the end of
each QSO in a Sprint.

No, I haven't measured the latency in msec but my ping times are 30-80
msec. More to the point, if I turn up the remote monitor so I hear both
local and remote, then send a V at 30 wpm, I hear the local monitor V
followed by a tail ranging from U to a short T. Most of the time I hear an
A or a full T.

I'm using a full K3 as the Control head, not a K3/0. There shouldn't be any
difference.

More important than perceived latency is quality of the received audio
stream. Mine has pops and crackles. On a good day, it will be one pop of
maybe 50 msec every few minutes and I consider that acceptable. On a bad
day, it's bursts of 3 to 6 such pops in one second, several times a minute,
often obliterating a code element or most of a character each burst and I
consider that unusable for contesting. Others do not experience this and
I'm trying to track it down. I suspect lost UDP packets but haven't been
able to determine even which side is responsible.

Remote operation is a lot of fun when it works. I wish I could get it to
work all the time!

73,

/Rick


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 All:



 Has anyone measured the latency when using the K3/0 to run a remote K3? Is
 it good enough for contesting?



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[Elecraft] Missed a great P3 Screen Shot

2014-03-30 Thread Dave Hachadorian
I was on 10 Meters Saturday, when the X1 solar flare struck at 
1748Z.


Right after the event, the bottom of the P3 waterfall was full of 
loud signals on a quiet blue background.  The center of the 
waterfall showed ambient noise growing to bright yellow across 
the entire band, then fading again to dark blue over 20 seconds 
or so, and the top part of the waterfall showed only a few weak 
signals on a quiet blue background.


I wasn't thinking fast enough to freeze the display, and then get 
out of N1MM and into the P3 Utility to save the screen shot.   It 
was absolutely stunning on the external 24 SVGA Monitor. I will 
never forget it.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Remote - Latency

2014-03-30 Thread KE8G
Hi Brian,
I can't really comment to the K3/0, but I can tell you when running a K3 as 
both the remote and control rigs, there is not a problem at all.  

To me, it is just as if I am sitting in front of the remote station, performing 
all ops from there!

73 de Jim - KE8G

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 All:
 
 
 
 Has anyone measured the latency when using the K3/0 to run a remote K3? Is
 it good enough for contesting?
 
 
 
 73' Brian KD0HII
 
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[Elecraft] K144XV power output and tune mode

2014-03-30 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci

Am I supposed to be able to set any arbitrary power level between 0 and
10W on the K144XV? It looks like I can't go below 4-5 W, and the
relation between drive and output looks like it's extremely non-linear. 

driveoutput
0.1 mW   4.2 W
0.2 mW   6.6 W
0.3 mW   8.5 W
0.4 mW   9.5 W
0.5 mW   9.7 W
0.6 mW  10.0 W
0.7 mW  10.6 W
0.8 mW  10.6 W
0.9 mW  10.6 W
1.0 mW  10.6 W
1.5 mW  10.6 W

drive as indicated by the K3, output is measured with a W2 (but I got
similarly looking results with a Diamond).

Seems to me there's no point in using more than 0.6 mW drive.
Also, does the transverter have a concept of TUNE power? Changing power
while in TUNE seems to also change the normal power setting. 

Thanks for the attention

Pf

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 in WPX SSB with 2.7 roofer

2014-03-30 Thread Fred Jensen
That's been my experience too, Dave.  SSB is not my forte ... severely 
compromised hearing ... but I do get into a small handful of phone 
contests [not WPX SSB, for the reasons you mentioned].  I had a borrowed 
1.8 filter for awhile, and found that it really did degrade the audio. 
Conversely, I've never had a problem with strong adjacent signals using 
the 2.7 even though I've got a couple of close neighbor hams.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

On 3/30/2014 1:30 PM, Dave Hachadorian wrote:


Using only the 2.7 filter, I never experienced a case of adjacent-signal
AGC pumping, or any other negative issue during the contest.  I think if
an SSB signal is so close to you that it is pumping your agc through the
2.7 filter, the frequency is hopelessly splattered anyway, and you'd
best be moving on.  I did narrow the DSP down by using HI CUT, and
usually ran it at LOW=0.15 and HIGH=2.25.



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Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-30 Thread Edward R Cole

OK, I own this topic :-)  Meaning I started it.

My purpose was to discover any facts or truths regarding continued 
use of win-XP.  If the upgrades are to become NLA, then it will be 
harder to keep an older machine running.  I think we all know that 
windows needs to be re-installed on a clean HD every few years to 
keep it running.  If the files needed are gone then life expectancy 
is limited (unless you store away all the current upgrade files for 
future use).  Synopses is that the files will continue to be available.


Topic drift over to Linux is probably inevitable but that is not an 
option for the computer I was re-building for my wife.  She is not 
interested in learning Linux.  It took a leap of faith to try win-7 
on her new laptop.  Very fortunate that a lot of computer mfr's are 
offering win-7 as an option to win-8 with new computers -- says a lot 
about acceptance of win-8.


Re: appropriateness of some computer issues to this 
reflector.  Computers are now common place part of most ham shacks so 
some topics are germane (with limits).  I'm done on this thread.


73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 constant-level audio for PSK31 = link to photos

2014-03-30 Thread Alan D. Wilcox
UPDATE:  Just added the photos for K2-5373, my project K2 that I still 
use. See http://wilcoxengineering.com/k2-5373/


---

On 3/29/14, 2:34 PM, Alan D. Wilcox wrote:

Hello,

Gradually I'm rebuilding my Elecraft site ... and latest is at 
http://wilcoxengineering.com/2014/03/27/digital-radio/
This weekend I put in some photos of the constant-level audio 
connection I added to my K2 to run PSK31


Now I need to show the actual setup and configuration ... next week!

Any special photos you'd like to see? Reply off list please.

Enjoy,
Alan

Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K2-5373, K3-40)
570-478-0736
Williamsport, PA 17701


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Re: [Elecraft] T/R switching problem

2014-03-30 Thread Jan
This is a follow-up to the discussion about a T/R switching problem I 
had.  I thank everyone who shared their suggestions.  Those who said to 
look elsewhere besides the K3 were probably correct.  I swapped some of 
my interconnecting coax jumpers, and the problem appears to have gone 
away.  I am still checking, but when I had it, it appeared sooner than 
it has after the latest change of jumpers. I think I have it narrowed to 
two of them.


Thanks again to all who contributed.

73,

Jan, KX2A

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Re: [Elecraft] Linux and Operating

2014-03-30 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT

Many of us use computers for a wide variety of purposes in the shack.

Some use them for logging, some for rig control.

Some of us operate almost exclusively keyboard-to-keyboard modes (don't 
know why I own a straight key, a set of paddles, or a microphone).


Without using a computer, I'm QRT.

I'm not a big fan of the Windows-vs-Linux religious arguments, but I am 
interested in what is, and isn't, available.  I'm also still using what 
most would consider antique operating systems.


The folks on the computer-related reflectors aren't interested in PSK-31 
or JT65, and would object about as quickly as some here who still log 
using a pen and paper.


I respect those who are old-school, but while I miss the 28KSR I once 
had, I can take my laptop (running XP) and my KX3 and operate most anywhere.


Does that make sense, Chester?

73 -- Lynn

On 3/30/2014 4:29 AM, Chester Alderman wrote:

Yes the discussion has changed into a Linux discussion. Would you please
remind me what relevance computer operating systems has to do with Elecraft
amateur radio gear? IMHO, it sure would be more appropriate to discuss
operating systems on a computer related reflector.

Tom - W4BQF

  


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of William Liporace -
WC2L
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 6:24 AM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Linux and Operating

The XP SP3 thread has changed into a Linux discussion. I think is pretty
neat! I have been running Linux in my shack for about 10 yrs. You can see an
article from a June 2007 QST  call AARA1, Murphy 0, by WA1KKM. That was the
year we got Linux running our local Field Day site. We have been using
OpenSuse for that and I typically run Linux Mint here at home.
  
There are lots of Distros and choices. Most allow a bootable CD for you to

try. I think some even allow you to save some stuff to a USB drive and etc.
I am spoiled, I usually have enough PCs or HD s to just swap around. Don't
be shy to try a Virtual Box. Virtual PC or any of the other options out
there.
  
For contesting I have been using KB by WA1KKM. You can also run N1MM 

WinTest in VMs and some do Wine. I have not done much of that I have enough
PCs to have a Windows PC too. There is also a new contest logging program
getting developed call CQRTEST (www.cqrtest.com) by Petr OK2CQR. Petr and
Martin OK1RR has also developed and very nice logging program called CQRLOG
(www.cqrlog.com).  Of course we all know what Dave W1HKJ  has done in the
Digital world with FLDIGI.
  
For those who care, there is NO support for FSK in Linux. We don't need to

go down that road. Most logging programs use HAMLIB for the radio control. I
will tell you that KB does not. There is currently no support for the
Elecraft radios in KB, Walt has stuff going on and I just got the radio..
There will be ;-) I can also tell you that some of the keying circuits are
not quite standard..
  
Like anything, there is not a one size fits all. Some like Windows, MAC and

Linux, the you have some like Elecraft, Yaesu, Kenwood and etc. Or some like
SSB, CW, Digital modes.. you get the idea ;-) This is a great hobby with
mostly great people. Love learning and playing!
  
Will WC2L

http://www.wc2l.com
http://dxc.wc2l.com
dxc.wc2l.com - AR-Cluster Node
  
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Re: [Elecraft] Linux and Operating

2014-03-30 Thread Don Wilhelm

All,

Yes, the XP computers, and even Win98 and Win2k computers will still 
work just fine - just make sure they are isolated from an internet 
connection and you can continue to use all the applications that you are 
used to.  For a dedicated shack computer using dedicated ham 
applications, there may be no need to connect to the internet, it can 
operate as a stand-alone computer.


In my case, I have my information and documents spread out over several 
computers as well as a RAID file server, so I cannot sever from the 
internet easily without also losing email and web access on the 
computers that need those applications - in other words, with my current 
setup, I cannot run a stand-alone computer to get the things I need 
accomplished.  For that reason, I have upgraded to Win7 on all my computers.


For those who can run a stand-alone system isolated from internet 
hackers, you are free to run whatever OS you are happy with.


If you have all your files on a Windows XP computer and do not want to 
bear the expense of migrating to Win7 or Win8, I suggest you try Linux 
Mint with the Mate desktop (it is not a big jump from a Windows 
desktop).  You can still dual boot into WinXP, just do not use email or 
a browser while in WinXP - in fact, it would be wise to disable your NIC 
card in the XP control panel.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/30/2014 6:53 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:

Many of us use computers for a wide variety of purposes in the shack.

Some use them for logging, some for rig control.

Some of us operate almost exclusively keyboard-to-keyboard modes 
(don't know why I own a straight key, a set of paddles, or a microphone).


Without using a computer, I'm QRT.

I'm not a big fan of the Windows-vs-Linux religious arguments, but I 
am interested in what is, and isn't, available.  I'm also still using 
what most would consider antique operating systems.


The folks on the computer-related reflectors aren't interested in 
PSK-31 or JT65, and would object about as quickly as some here who 
still log using a pen and paper.


I respect those who are old-school, but while I miss the 28KSR I once 
had, I can take my laptop (running XP) and my KX3 and operate most 
anywhere.




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Re: [Elecraft] Linux and Operating

2014-03-30 Thread Mike Reublin
I see that Microsoft will continue to issue updates to MS Security Essentials, 
my AV of choice, for another year. I'm pretty sure other AV companies aren't 
dropping support. IMNSHO, there is no need to get our keyer cords in a twist 
over MS announcing end of life for XP(the best Windows yet).

That said, my main machine now is a Mac. 

73, Mike NF4L

On Mar 30, 2014, at 7:29 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 All,
 
 Yes, the XP computers, and even Win98 and Win2k computers will still work 
 just fine - just make sure they are isolated from an internet connection and 
 you can continue to use all the applications that you are used to.  For a 
 dedicated shack computer using dedicated ham applications, there may be no 
 need to connect to the internet, it can operate as a stand-alone computer.
 
 In my case, I have my information and documents spread out over several 
 computers as well as a RAID file server, so I cannot sever from the internet 
 easily without also losing email and web access on the computers that need 
 those applications - in other words, with my current setup, I cannot run a 
 stand-alone computer to get the things I need accomplished.  For that reason, 
 I have upgraded to Win7 on all my computers.
 
 For those who can run a stand-alone system isolated from internet hackers, 
 you are free to run whatever OS you are happy with.
 
 If you have all your files on a Windows XP computer and do not want to bear 
 the expense of migrating to Win7 or Win8, I suggest you try Linux Mint with 
 the Mate desktop (it is not a big jump from a Windows desktop).  You can 
 still dual boot into WinXP, just do not use email or a browser while in WinXP 
 - in fact, it would be wise to disable your NIC card in the XP control panel.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 3/30/2014 6:53 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
 Many of us use computers for a wide variety of purposes in the shack.
 
 Some use them for logging, some for rig control.
 
 Some of us operate almost exclusively keyboard-to-keyboard modes (don't know 
 why I own a straight key, a set of paddles, or a microphone).
 
 Without using a computer, I'm QRT.
 
 I'm not a big fan of the Windows-vs-Linux religious arguments, but I am 
 interested in what is, and isn't, available.  I'm also still using what most 
 would consider antique operating systems.
 
 The folks on the computer-related reflectors aren't interested in PSK-31 or 
 JT65, and would object about as quickly as some here who still log using a 
 pen and paper.
 
 I respect those who are old-school, but while I miss the 28KSR I once had, I 
 can take my laptop (running XP) and my KX3 and operate most anywhere.
 
 
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[Elecraft] K3 in WPX SSB with 2.7 roofer

2014-03-30 Thread Johnny Siu
Hello Dave,

I did have the same experience with 1.8Khz filter in the past.  However, upon 
the guidance of my contest elmer, I played around the IF shift.  By moving the 
centre position of the IF passband, you will find a sweet spot where you can 
hear the speech with minimal degrade but excellent selectivity.

73 Johnny VR2XMC
 


 寄件人︰ Dave Hachadorian k6ll.d...@gmail.com
收件人︰ Reflector Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
傳送日期︰ 2014年03月31日 (週一) 4:30 AM
主題︰ [Elecraft] K3 in WPX SSB with 2.7 roofer
  

I was in the WPX SSB contest this weekend, and wanted to try 
using just the 2.7 roofing filter, using only DSP to narrow the 
response below that.  I previously have had the feeling that the 
1.8 roofer was degrading speech intelligibility.  The WPX is a 
QRM-fest of the first order.  Everybody can work everybody, so 
the whole world is doing their own thing all the time.  15 meters 
was particularly bad, with almost nobody having a clear channel.

Using only the 2.7 filter, I never experienced a case of 
adjacent-signal AGC pumping, or any other negative issue during 
the contest.  I think if an SSB signal is so close to you that it 
is pumping your agc through the 2.7 filter, the frequency is 
hopelessly splattered anyway, and you'd best be moving on.  I did 

narrow the DSP down by using HI CUT, and usually ran it at 
LOW=0.15 and HIGH=2.25.

I could be persuaded to part with my pair of 1.8 filters, if 
someone is interested in them.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 in WPX SSB with 2.7 roofer

2014-03-30 Thread Dave Hachadorian
I’ve done all that.  On some voices, distortion is minimal.  On others, it is 
serious.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ



From: Johnny Siu 
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 5:29 PM
To: Dave Hachadorian ; Reflector Elecraft 
Subject: K3 in WPX SSB with 2.7 roofer

Hello Dave,

I did have the same experience with 1.8Khz filter in the past.  However, upon 
the guidance of my contest elmer, I played around the IF shift.  By moving the 
centre position of the IF passband, you will find a sweet spot where you can 
hear the speech with minimal degrade but excellent selectivity.

73 Johnny VR2XMC

寄件人︰ Dave Hachadorian k6ll.d...@gmail.com
收件人︰ Reflector Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
傳送日期︰ 2014年03月31日 (週一) 4:30 AM
主題︰ [Elecraft] K3 in WPX SSB with 2.7 roofer


I was in the WPX SSB contest this weekend, and wanted to try 
using just the 2.7 roofing filter, using only DSP to narrow the 
response below that.  I previously have had the feeling that the 
1.8 roofer was degrading speech intelligibility.  The WPX is a 
QRM-fest of the first order.  Everybody can work everybody, so 
the whole world is doing their own thing all the time.  15 meters 
was particularly bad, with almost nobody having a clear channel.

Using only the 2.7 filter, I never experienced a case of 
adjacent-signal AGC pumping, or any other negative issue during 
the contest.  I think if an SSB signal is so close to you that it 
is pumping your agc through the 2.7 filter, the frequency is 
hopelessly splattered anyway, and you'd best be moving on.  I did 

narrow the DSP down by using HI CUT, and usually ran it at 
LOW=0.15 and HIGH=2.25.

I could be persuaded to part with my pair of 1.8 filters, if 
someone is interested in them.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 in WPX SSB with 2.7 roofer

2014-03-30 Thread Phil Wheeler
I have the 2.0 and 2.8 filters installed; I seldom 
get below 2.2-2.4 though but I'm not a contester.


Was watching 20 SSB on my P3 a while ago. You 
could sure tell something changed at around 
midnight Zulu!


73, Phil w7ox

On 3/30/14, 1:30 PM, Dave Hachadorian wrote:
I was in the WPX SSB contest this weekend, and 
wanted to try using just the 2.7 roofing filter, 
using only DSP to narrow the response below 
that.  I previously have had the feeling that 
the 1.8 roofer was degrading speech 
intelligibility.  The WPX is a QRM-fest of the 
first order.  Everybody can work everybody, so 
the whole world is doing their own thing all the 
time.  15 meters was particularly bad, with 
almost nobody having a clear channel.


Using only the 2.7 filter, I never experienced a 
case of adjacent-signal AGC pumping, or any 
other negative issue during the contest.  I 
think if an SSB signal is so close to you that 
it is pumping your agc through the 2.7 filter, 
the frequency is hopelessly splattered anyway, 
and you'd best be moving on.  I did narrow the 
DSP down by using HI CUT, and usually ran it at 
LOW=0.15 and HIGH=2.25.


I could be persuaded to part with my pair of 1.8 
filters, if someone is interested in them.


Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ



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[Elecraft] Suggestions on Antenna Analyzers

2014-03-30 Thread Mark Tellez
Hello,

I am considering purchasing an antenna analyzer to help me refine some of
my homebrew antenna experiments and also to tune my Buddipole.

What is most important to me is accuracy, ease of use and of course giving
me all the info I will need to adjust my antenna.  Since I have never used
an analyzer I am not sure what I going to need so I would appreciate advice
from those of you who have one.

At this stage I am considering the following:   AA-54, AA-230Pro, iPortable
60, Comet CAA-500, and AIM 4170(not very portable).   Any others I should
look at?

Thanks,

Mark
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Re: [Elecraft] Suggestions on Antenna Analyzers

2014-03-30 Thread W4GRJ
I have the AA-600, easy to use with lots of features.
The RigExpert models you listed are basically the same just lower frequency 
range.
You will love it.
Jack
W4GRJ


On Mar 30, 2014, at 10:37 PM, Mark Tellez aar...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

I am considering purchasing an antenna analyzer to help me refine some of
my homebrew antenna experiments and also to tune my Buddipole.

What is most important to me is accuracy, ease of use and of course giving
me all the info I will need to adjust my antenna.  Since I have never used
an analyzer I am not sure what I going to need so I would appreciate advice
from those of you who have one.

At this stage I am considering the following:   AA-54, AA-230Pro, iPortable
60, Comet CAA-500, and AIM 4170(not very portable).   Any others I should
look at?

Thanks,

Mark
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 in WPX SSB with 2.7 roofer

2014-03-30 Thread Bill Coleman

On Mar 30, 2014, at 4:30 PM, Dave Hachadorian k6ll.d...@gmail.com wrote:
 Using only the 2.7 filter, I never experienced a case of adjacent-signal AGC 
 pumping, or any other negative issue during the contest.  I think if an SSB 
 signal is so close to you that it is pumping your agc through the 2.7 filter, 
 the frequency is hopelessly splattered anyway, and you'd best be moving on.  
 I did narrow the DSP down by using HI CUT, and usually ran it at LOW=0.15 and 
 HIGH=2.25.

I’ll echo this experience. I find the DSP filters to be stupendous. All I have 
for SSB roofing filter is the stock 2.7 kHz 5-pole filter. The heavy lifting is 
done in the DSP.

Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: aa...@arrl.net
Web: http://boringhamradiopart.blogspot.com
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   -- Wilbur Wright, 1901

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Re: [Elecraft] Suggestions on Antenna Analyzers

2014-03-30 Thread N7RJN
Mark,

I use the AA-54. All of the Rig Experts analyzers are nearly identical,
except for operating frequency range.  Get the one the covers all
frequencies you plan on using now and in the future.

73,

Bob  -  N7RJN

On 3/30/14, 19:37, Mark Tellez aar...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

I am considering purchasing an antenna analyzer to help me refine some of
my homebrew antenna experiments and also to tune my Buddipole.

What is most important to me is accuracy, ease of use and of course giving
me all the info I will need to adjust my antenna.  Since I have never used
an analyzer I am not sure what I going to need so I would appreciate
advice
from those of you who have one.

At this stage I am considering the following:   AA-54, AA-230Pro,
iPortable
60, Comet CAA-500, and AIM 4170(not very portable).   Any others I should
look at?

Thanks,

Mark
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[Elecraft] Suggestions on Antenna Analyzers

2014-03-30 Thread Johnny Siu
I have recently got a SARK-110 and my product review was in :

http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/10856

73

Johnny VR2XMC
 


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傳送日期︰ 2014年03月31日 (週一) 10:57 AM
主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] Suggestions on Antenna Analyzers
  

Mark,

I use the AA-54. All of the Rig Experts analyzers are nearly identical,
except for operating frequency range.  Get the one the covers all
frequencies you plan on using now and in the future.

73,

Bob  -  N7RJN

On 3/30/14, 19:37, Mark Tellez aar...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

I am considering purchasing an antenna analyzer to help me refine some of
my homebrew antenna experiments and also to tune my Buddipole.

What is most important to me is accuracy, ease of use and of course giving
me all the info I will need to adjust my antenna.  Since I have never used
an analyzer I am not sure what I going to need so I would appreciate
advice
from those of you who have one.

At this stage I am considering the following:   AA-54, AA-230Pro,
iPortable
60, Comet CAA-500, and AIM 4170(not very portable).   Any others I should
look at?

Thanks,

Mark
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Re: [Elecraft] Suggestions on Antenna Analyzers

2014-03-30 Thread kd7gc
The unit I was advised to purchase when ready is the VNA2180 from Array
Solutions.

I believe that it is a 2 port analyzer.

 

Alan/KD7GC

 

 

Alan R. Downing

Phoenix, AZ

 

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Hello, 

I am considering purchasing an antenna analyzer to help me refine some of 
my homebrew antenna experiments and also to tune my Buddipole. 

What is most important to me is accuracy, ease of use and of course giving 
me all the info I will need to adjust my antenna.  Since I have never used 
an analyzer I am not sure what I going to need so I would appreciate advice 
from those of you who have one. 

At this stage I am considering the following:   AA-54, AA-230Pro, iPortable 
60, Comet CAA-500, and AIM 4170(not very portable).   Any others I should 
look at? 

Thanks, 

Mark 
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[Elecraft] Suggestions on Antenna Analyzers

2014-03-30 Thread Jim
I got the AIM4170.

 

To me, it was easier to give up smoking
than put the AIM analyzer down.

 

Fun to use with some modeling software
also (I use EZ-NEC, others will work
also).

 

It was a one-two punch of hardware and
software at the same time that was
addictive.

 

Jim

WA9ZBV

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Re: [Elecraft] SO2R thoughts

2014-03-30 Thread Al Lorona
 1)  another K3 ...Downside:  Expensive, 
 It's more fun to have different rigs to play with, and like others, I find
 the K3 can be kind of harsh to listen to for many hours.

Really? The K3 is the least-fatiguing receiver I've ever heard.
 
It makes me wonder if folks are making judicious use of the many tools 
available to make a K3 sound good.
 
The RF Gain needs to be backed off and the RX EQ adjusted to compensate for 
your ears, your speakers or headphones, your bandwidth, your room, and your 
mood. Same with HI and LO cut. You may have the bandwidth too wide (or too 
narrow) for the purpose. Just because somebody says that 2.8 kHz or 1.8 kHz is 
the 'right' bandwidth means nothing.
 
The AGC system allows a wide range of settings that make big differences. A 
good hour is required to set it up properly. I suspect many don't know how or 
haven't bothered. Their opinions are worthless to me.
 
IN GENERAL -- I'm generalizing here-- in general, you will have the ATT engaged 
and/or your RF Gain backed off of max; your RX EQ will be something other than 
flat; you will have spent a day dialing in your AGC settings. If not, your K3 
is probably not set to the optimum. I'm not saying anything new here.
 
Someone should set up a place where we can upload recordings made with a K3 to 
dispel this continuing myth that the K3 is 'noisy', 'harsh', 'fatiguing', etc. 
And sorry, YouTube videos made by pointing a camera at a K3 and picking up room 
sound do *not* count.
 
On the other hand, if you participate in contests, most contesters' audio is so 
bad that, yes, I can understand your fatigue during a contest.
 
Al  W6LX
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Re: [Elecraft] SO2R thoughts

2014-03-30 Thread Stephen Bloom
You may well be correct.  As the sort of endless discussion :) has shown
...a lot of audio issues ..especially something like fatigue is pretty
subjective and I guarantee I haven't gotten the various adjustments just
so.  I find it more of an issue on SSB than CW and it is something you see
on some of the eHam reviews.  I find W4TV's measurements persuasive as
opposed to others (or my own) anecdotal experiences, so I'll play around
with settings some more.  

73
Steve KL7SB


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Al Lorona
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 9:24 PM
To: 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SO2R thoughts

 1)  another K3 ...Downside:  Expensive, It's more fun to have 
 different rigs to play with, and like others, I find the K3 can be 
 kind of harsh to listen to for many hours.

Really? The K3 is the least-fatiguing receiver I've ever heard.
 
It makes me wonder if folks are making judicious use of the many tools
available to make a K3 sound good.
 
The RF Gain needs to be backed off and the RX EQ adjusted to compensate for
your ears, your speakers or headphones, your bandwidth, your room, and your
mood. Same with HI and LO cut. You may have the bandwidth too wide (or too
narrow) for the purpose. Just because somebody says that 2.8 kHz or 1.8
kHz is the 'right' bandwidth means nothing.
 
The AGC system allows a wide range of settings that make big differences. A
good hour is required to set it up properly. I suspect many don't know how
or haven't bothered. Their opinions are worthless to me.
 
IN GENERAL -- I'm generalizing here-- in general, you will have the ATT
engaged and/or your RF Gain backed off of max; your RX EQ will be something
other than flat; you will have spent a day dialing in your AGC settings. If
not, your K3 is probably not set to the optimum. I'm not saying anything new
here.
 
Someone should set up a place where we can upload recordings made with a K3
to dispel this continuing myth that the K3 is 'noisy', 'harsh', 'fatiguing',
etc. And sorry, YouTube videos made by pointing a camera at a K3 and picking
up room sound do *not* count.
 
On the other hand, if you participate in contests, most contesters' audio is
so bad that, yes, I can understand your fatigue during a contest.
 
Al  W6LX
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 in WPX SSB with 2.7 roofer

2014-03-30 Thread Al Lorona
Dave, I have had pretty much the same experience. I think I would have placed 
the 2.1 kHz passband that you settled on a bit higher, say, LO=0.30 and 
HI=2.40, or even LO=0.40 and HI=2.50, which is probably better matched to the 
majority of contesters' transmitted signals out there. But I realize that not 
everybody's ear is the same, and my settings could even result in a listener's 
fatigue in you.

For years I have heard folks state that 1.8 kHz is mandatory for SSB 
contesting... but I have never understood how one could put up with this narrow 
bandwidth for long. I need more information hitting my ears and am perfectly 
happy with letting the famous 'ear-brain' filter extract the maximum from that 
information.

This illustrates what I have just stated in another post: receiver settings are 
very specific to each operator. One size doesn't fit all. That's why, thank 
goodness, our rigs have so many wonderful controls that can be tweaked to sound 
'just right'.

Al  W6LX
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