[FRIAM] Borneo was: Re: Downtown Subscription?

[Stephen Guerin]

Ed,

Cool!!

Josh, Kaz and I will be speaking at this "International Workshop on
Climate-Resilient Development in Southeast Asia
<https://chinaproject.harvard.edu/event/climate-resilience>" workshop end
of July. We are noodling on what to talk about / show.

If convenient please think about issues as you travel that might be
relevant and share any photos, collect maps, etc of any relevant issues on
climate resilience (broadly defined) . Or forward any major issues you're
coming across that could benefit from ABM, geospatial visualization,
community based imagery, drone photogrammetry, IoT sensors, and community
decision making etc.  We can georectify any of your imagery and run abm
sims (water, flood, evacuation, etc) on the Simtable or in Realtime.Earth.
Potential issues:

Borneo:

   - Deforestation: Large-scale logging and land conversion for palm oil
   plantations, leading to loss of biodiversity in forests like the Heart of
   Borneo and habitats for endangered species such as the Bornean orangutan
   (Pongo pygmaeus), pygmy elephants, and clouded leopards.
   - Peatland Degradation: Draining and burning of peatlands in areas like
   the Sebangau National Park for agriculture and development, causing
   significant greenhouse gas emissions and contributing to regional haze
   problems.
   - Indigenous Rights: Displacement and marginalization of indigenous
   communities such as the Dayak and Penan people due to land grabs and
   industrial development, threatening their traditional ways of life and
   access to resources.
   - Water Pollution: Contamination of rivers and waterways like the
   Mahakam River from mining activities, agricultural runoff, and improper
   waste disposal, impacting aquatic ecosystems and human health.
   - Climate Change Vulnerability: Increased frequency and intensity of
   extreme weather events, such as floods and droughts, affecting agriculture,
   infrastructure, and livelihoods in Borneo, particularly impacting lowland
   and coastal areas.
   - Habitat Loss for Proboscis Monkeys: Destruction of mangrove and
   riverine forests affecting the habitat of the endangered proboscis monkey
   (Nasalis larvatus), unique to Borneo.
   - Decline of Sun Bears: Habitat fragmentation and poaching leading to
   the decline of the Bornean sun bear (Helarctos malayanus euryspilus), the
   world’s smallest bear species.


Greater SEA:

   - Indonesian Peatland Fires: Large-scale peatland fires in areas such as
   Central Kalimantan and Riau, causing severe air pollution, health problems,
   and significant greenhouse gas emissions, contributing to regional haze and
   climate change.
   - Coral Reef Degradation: Damage to coral reefs in places like the Coral
   Triangle (including parts of Indonesia, Malaysia, and the Philippines) due
   to overfishing, destructive fishing practices, and climate change,
   impacting marine biodiversity and local fishing communities.
   - Mangrove Destruction: Clearing of mangrove forests in coastal areas
   like Sumatra and Java for aquaculture and development, leading to loss of
   coastal protection, biodiversity, and carbon sequestration capacity.
   - Agricultural Expansion: Conversion of forests to agricultural land in
   regions such as Sumatra's Bukit Barisan Selatan National Park, leading to
   habitat loss for species like the Sumatran tiger and increased
   human-wildlife conflict.
   - Urbanization and Pollution: Rapid urbanization in cities like Jakarta
   and Manila, causing air and water pollution, inadequate waste management,
   and increased vulnerability to climate-related impacts such as flooding and
   heatwaves.


Description of the workshop.

 An increasing number of studies warn that climate change is a major threat
to human societies and is projected to cause growing damage and loss in the
near future, even if currently planned mitigation goals are met. The
question of how to maintain and enhance “climate resilience” -  the
capacity of socio-ecosystems to survive and develop in changing climate -
is of utmost importance. Promoting climate-resilient development has become
a key priority in fields like risk management, urban planning, health care
and others. Southeast Asia includes multiple emerging economies facing
increasing threats of global warming and climate overshoot. Meanwhile,
Southeast Asian countries are quickly developing social and economic
systems and enhancing capacities to cope with climate impacts.

However, scientific research is insufficiently developed to understand the
evolving capacity of social resilience to climate change impacts. We invite
participation in an “International Workshop on Climate-Resilient
Development in Southeast Asia” to explore with colleagues from Southeast
Asia whether, where, and how climate resilient development can be enhanced
both in general and in their region in particular.






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Re: [FRIAM] Downtown Subscription?

[Stephen Guerin]

Thanks, Frank! I'll see you at DS


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On Fri, May 24, 2024, 9:15 AM Frank Wimberly  wrote:

> I am in the St John's coffee shop.  This building seems to be abandoned.
> Neither the coffee service nor the  dining room are open.  If people want
> beverages or snacks we should go somewhere else.
>
> I'll head to Downtown Subscription.
>
> Frank
>
> ---
> Frank C. Wimberly
> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
> 
> Santa Fe, NM 87505
> 
>
> 505 670-9918
> Santa Fe, NM
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[FRIAM] Nick: Los Alamos Skywarn Meeting thurs at 2p

[Stephen Guerin]

Nick,

I bet you could make a friend at this meeting. I can drive.

https://www.losalamosnm.us/News-articles/County-invites-community-to-become-Skywarn-Storm-Spotters

We might be able to stop by Steve Smith's place for cookies and scotch on
the way back down :-)

Here's the last rolling 12 hours from our Los Alamos camera btw.

Https://sala.realtime.earth. Not much happening at the moment. Here's the
start of the Trampas Fire from that camera
https://twitter.com/Simtable/status/1700253960324698173


-Stephen





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Re: [FRIAM] WeatherNerdAlert -- Monsoonish?

[Stephen Guerin]

2 frames per minute - every 30 seconds.

Here's a second timelapse of the same timespan from Los Alamos looking east
to Santa Fe and the Sangres

https://playground.realtime.earth/videos/LosAlamos1_2024_05_16_11-2024_05_16_20.mp4
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On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 4:03 PM Nicholas Thompson 
wrote:

>  Wow, the number of different cloud directions is just extraordinary.
> What’s the frames per minute?
>
> Sent from my Dumb Phone
>
> On May 16, 2024, at 2:49 PM, Stephen Guerin 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Nick,
>
> here's a video timelapse of your weather event. Camera on Gonzales Road
> looking SW to the Sandias
>
> https://playground.realtime.earth/videos/TreeHouse_2024_05_16_12-2024_05_16_19.mp4
>
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> On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 12:17 PM Nicholas Thompson <
> thompnicks...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Note rotation:
>>
>> https://www.weather.gov/abq/
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Re: [FRIAM] WeatherNerdAlert -- Monsoonish?

[Stephen Guerin]

Nick,

here's a video timelapse of your weather event. Camera on Gonzales Road
looking SW to the Sandias

https://playground.realtime.earth/videos/TreeHouse_2024_05_16_12-2024_05_16_19.mp4


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On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 12:17 PM Nicholas Thompson 
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> Note rotation:
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[FRIAM] Potential vorticity and financial markets Fwd: CDS Friday seminar (CSI 899, CSS 898) for 26 April, 3 PM

[Stephen Guerin]

Nick,

If you have time, beam into Blake Lebaron's talk today and let the "depth
of the order book relating volatility and liquidity" wash over you like
some one was describing potential vorticity or other dynamic of the
weather.

 The order book with zero intelligence traders has been a central research
focus of the econophysicists and Doynes group and Blake's early related SFI
stock market model.

Marcus did a bunch of work on this when he was at SFI. any comments?

Stephen




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-- Forwarded message -
From: CDS Department at GMU 
Date: Tue, Apr 23, 2024, 9:25 AM
Subject: CDS Friday seminar (CSI 899, CSS 898) for 26 April, 3 PM
To: 


*Speaker*: Blake LeBaron, Brandeis University



*Title*: Dynamic Order Dispersion and Volatility Persistence in a Simple
Limit Order Book model


*Abstract*: This preliminary paper extends the dynamics of a basic stylized
limit order book model introduced in Chiarella & Iori (2002). The original
model is capable of generating some key market microstructure features, but
it cannot recreate longer range persistence in volatility. We explore a
very simple and intuitive addition to the stylized, near zero intelligence
behavior of traders that is capable of delivering persistent volatility. We
also show that this strategy depends critically on certain key features in
the dynamics of supply and demand for liquidity and depth in the limit
order book. We believe this is fundamental to understanding both the
dynamics of volatility in financial time series, along with variations in
liquidity in financial markets. We contribute a parsimonious agent-based
model to the literature that may be used as a test bed or sandbox
for developing agents with more complex behavior.



Joint work with Andrew Hawley (Federal Reserve), Mark Paddrik (Office of
Financial Research), and Nathan Palmer (Federal Reserve)



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reflect the position of the Office of Financial Research (OFR), the U.S.
Department of Treasury, or the Federal Reserve Board of Governors.



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Re: [FRIAM] Daniel Dennett (1942-2024)

[Stephen Guerin]

Michael Levin's farewell to Dan Dennett
  https://thoughtforms.life/farewell-dan-dennett-i-will-really-miss-you/




On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 2:46 PM Stephen Guerin 
wrote:

> Such a loss :-(
>>
>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2024/04/19/daniel-dennett-philosopher-atheist-darwinist/
>
>
> yes a loss of a great person and intellectual. Though in the loss is the
> possibility of progress.  if you consider the above "atheist-darwinist" url
> representing a certain paradigm in which Dennett has been cast as a central
> figure.
>
> Planck's Principle on paradigms and funerals:
>
> An important scientific innovation rarely makes its way by gradually
> winning over and converting its opponents: it rarely happens that Saul
> becomes Paul
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle>. What does
> happen is that its opponents gradually die out, and that the growing
> generation is familiarized with the ideas from the beginning: another
> instance of the fact that the future lies with the youth.
> — Max Planck, Scientific autobiography, 1950, p. 33, 97
>
> Colloquially, this is often paraphrased as "Science progresses one funeral
> at a time"
>
>
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> On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 1:03 PM Jochen Fromm  wrote:
>
>> Such a loss :-(
>>
>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2024/04/19/daniel-dennett-philosopher-atheist-darwinist/
>>
>> I will put his autobiography "I’ve Been Thinking" from last year on my
>> reading list
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/oct/01/ive-been-thinking-by-daniel-c-dennett-review-an-engaging-vexing-memoir-with-a-humility-bypass
>>
>> -J.
>>
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Jochen Fromm 
>> Date: 4/19/24 7:32 PM (GMT+01:00)
>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
>>
>> Subject: [FRIAM] Daniel Dennett (1942-2024)
>>
>> A sad day today. Daniel Dennett has died :-( For every big question in
>> philosophy there is at least one Daniel Dennett book:
>>
>> "Consciousnes Explained" (1991) about consciousness
>> "Darwin's Dangerous Idea" (1995) about evolution
>> "Freedom Evolves" (2003) about free will
>> "Breaking the spell" (2006) about religion
>>
>> https://dailynous.com/2024/04/19/daniel-dennett-death-1942-2024/
>>
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Re: [FRIAM] Daniel Dennett (1942-2024)

[Stephen Guerin]

>
> Such a loss :-(
>
> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2024/04/19/daniel-dennett-philosopher-atheist-darwinist/


yes a loss of a great person and intellectual. Though in the loss is the
possibility of progress.  if you consider the above "atheist-darwinist" url
representing a certain paradigm in which Dennett has been cast as a central
figure.

Planck's Principle on paradigms and funerals:

An important scientific innovation rarely makes its way by gradually
winning over and converting its opponents: it rarely happens that Saul
becomes Paul <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle>.
What does happen is that its opponents gradually die out, and that the
growing generation is familiarized with the ideas from the beginning:
another instance of the fact that the future lies with the youth.
— Max Planck, Scientific autobiography, 1950, p. 33, 97

Colloquially, this is often paraphrased as "Science progresses one funeral
at a time"


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On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 1:03 PM Jochen Fromm  wrote:

> Such a loss :-(
>
> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2024/04/19/daniel-dennett-philosopher-atheist-darwinist/
>
> I will put his autobiography "I’ve Been Thinking" from last year on my
> reading list
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/oct/01/ive-been-thinking-by-daniel-c-dennett-review-an-engaging-vexing-memoir-with-a-humility-bypass
>
> -J.
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Jochen Fromm 
> Date: 4/19/24 7:32 PM (GMT+01:00)
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
>
> Subject: [FRIAM] Daniel Dennett (1942-2024)
>
> A sad day today. Daniel Dennett has died :-( For every big question in
> philosophy there is at least one Daniel Dennett book:
>
> "Consciousnes Explained" (1991) about consciousness
> "Darwin's Dangerous Idea" (1995) about evolution
> "Freedom Evolves" (2003) about free will
> "Breaking the spell" (2006) about religion
>
> https://dailynous.com/2024/04/19/daniel-dennett-death-1942-2024/
>
> -J.
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[FRIAM] Fwd: [netlogo-users] NetLogo Foundation and search for Executive Director

[Stephen Guerin]

Congratulations, Uri, and to your Netlogo team!

Forwarding to FRIAM list your search for the Foundation's First Executive
Director


-- Forwarded message -
From: Uri Wilensky 
Date: Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 8:52 PM
Subject: [netlogo-users] NetLogo foundation
To: 


Dear NetLogo users group,

The National Science Foundation has awarded us funds in order to preserve,
expand and improve the NetLogo project and its community. These funds will
go towards the establishment of a formal organization, that will foster the
long term sustainability of NetLogo.  We at the CCL, are very excited about
this opportunity and have begun many plans to launch the non-profit
organization.

I have led the development of NetLogo for about thirty years. I will
continue being very active in the new organization. But it also gives me
peace to know that NetLogo will be secure even after I retire from full
involvement.

I am including below the advertisement that went out today for an executive
director for this new organization.

If this opportunity might be of interest to you, please do apply. If you
know of others who might be interested in this opportunity, please do
forward them this message. And feel free to circulate to your contacts.

We look forward to working together with our users to accomplish these
goals.

All the best,

—Uri


*NetLogo Seeks Founding Executive Director*



The NetLogo project seeks a founding executive director (Sr. Project
Administrator) to help develop an organizational structure to cultivate the
ecosystem of NetLogo users and contributors. The organization exists to
maintain and develop the NetLogo software and grow its community of
computational modelers. The initial term for this position is through
8/31/2025.



The NetLogo project was founded by Professor Uri Wilensky in the late 1990s
and has two core missions: 1) to democratize computational thinking and
computational modeling education, and 2) to enable natural and social
scientists to use agent-based modeling in their work. Our core product,
NetLogo, is a groundbreaking platform that enables learners of all ages to
explore complex systems, experiment with simulations, and develop critical
problem-solving skills. NetLogo is also the leading platform used by
scientists to construct agent-based models. A large number of scientific
articles have been based on research using NetLogo (more than 20,000), and
the number of such articles published per year continues to grow. The
NetLogo project also supports a number of related software products built
around NetLogo to facilitate educational and scientific goals. NetLogo and
related software are free and opensource.



To date, the development of the NetLogo family of products has been funded
primarily by academic research grants (NSF, NIH, etc.) to the Center for
Connected Learning and Computer-Based Modeling (CCL) at Northwestern
University. The CCL is led by Professor Wilensky and includes other
affiliated professors, two full-time software developers, one half-time
software developer, PhD students and post-doctoral researchers who
contribute to the development of NetLogo in various ways. The development
of NetLogo in this academic environment has been highly successful for over
20 years, but a revised organizational structure will help ensure NetLogo’s
future sustainability.



Recently the NetLogo Project received an NSF grant from the new POSE
program (Pathways to Open-Source Ecosystems) aimed at creating a
sustainable organizational structure and ecosystem to ensure the longevity
of NetLogo. The founding executive director of the new organization will
work closely with the core NetLogo team at the CCL and with partners around
the world towards these goals:

   - Create the new organizational structure and provide strategic
   leadership and vision during the shift in governance and beyond.
   - Drive growth and sustainability through fundraising, partnerships,
   grants, and other revenue sources. Fundraising will be a major part of the
   executive director’s role, at least until other revenue sources are well
   developed. The POSE grant provides funding for 2 years of the executive
   director’s salary. In the second year of the job, the organization needs to
   be bringing in enough revenue to pay half of this salary, and in the third
   year, to fully pay the executive director’s salary as well as portions of
   the salaries of other team members. Over the next 5-10 years, the goal is
   for the NetLogo project to no longer rely primarily on academic research
   grants for the salaries of any core team members which includes, at a
   minimum, the executive director and 2-3 full time developers.
   - Cultivate an open-source ecosystem of users making contributions to
   the NetLogo project including code, agent-based models, educational
   materials, and associated computational tools.
   - Cultivate relationships with educators, researchers, and policymakers
   to promote 

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] The DeFrocked English Major Strikes Again

[Stephen Guerin]

Hi David,

I'll manually remove your email.

For others, the unsubscribe link is in the signature of the messages. It is:

http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com



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On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 7:01 AM Pedersen, David John II 
wrote:

> Good morning,
>
>
>
> Can you take me off this list?
>
>
>
> *David J. Pedersen II*
>
> Training Instructor
>
> P.O. Box 1663 MS-G724 | Los Alamos, NM  87545
>
> Office 555-555-
>
> Mobile 555-555-
>
> Northern New Mexico Integrated Security – A Centerra-TCS Joint Venture
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam  *On Behalf Of *Nicholas Thompson
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2024 9:33 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [FRIAM] The DeFrocked English Major Strikes Again
>
>
>
> I am pretty sure this the stupidest question I have ever asked this
> forum,, so I am at your mercy.
>
> I am in one of those situations where language and mathematics are rubbing
> together and driving crazy.
>
> Let say that my patio is ten steps down from my back door.  I have two
> cats,  Dee and Ess, and  Dee is dominant to Ess.  So, if I go out to let
> them in, and I find  Ess on step -2   and  Dee on step -8,  I know I have
> an unstable situation .   And I would  rate the degree of instability as a
> positive 6.  How would I compare the two numbers mathematically to get  a
> minus 6.
>
> But let’s say that for conceptual reasons I want to conceive of the
> situation as a degree of stability, with negative stability corresponding
> to instability.   Now, according  to my index, the situation is a minus 6.
> How would I compare the two numbers mathematically to get  a minus 6.
>
> The situation I am trying to model here is the origin of the notion of
> static stability in meteorology.  Static Stability has a lot to do with
> differential lapse rates.  But lapse rates are minus numbers.  So a parcel
> is unstable if it has a lower lapse rate than surrounding parcels, and the
> greater the absolute value the difference between them, the greater the
> instability.
>
> I asked “George” (GPT) to help me with this, but he suggested I just take
> absolute values and give them whatever sign I want, but somebody told me,
> way back when, that taking absolute values was not kosher in mathematics.
> (Why else would the variance be the mean SQUARED deviation about  the
> mean?).
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Re: [FRIAM] Potential Vorticity and the Dynamic Tropopause

[Stephen Guerin]

Portrait of a weather watcher:

As Nick is trying to model Stability and Diffusion, I had Stable Diffusion
try to model Nick. :-)

[image: 20240414_184733.jpg]

Aya my previous post got html grabled as HTML.  Thanks Gary for pointing
that out off-list.




On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 12:18 PM Stephen Guerin 
wrote:

> Portrait of a Weather Watcher
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2024, 12:05 PM Stephen Guerin 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dan GuPTa had this response when asked to relate your .PDF to Bernard
>> cells and other prompting:
>>
>> Here’s a integration of potential vorticity (PV), atmospheric stability,
>> and their relationship to Bénard cells, emphasizing isentropic layering in
>> both meteorological and experimental fluid dynamics contexts.
>>
>> ### Connecting Bénard Cells and Atmospheric Dynamics
>>
>> In Bénard cells, fluid heated from below shows a critical transition from
>> conductive to convective heat transfer, forming cellular patterns.
>> Similarly, in the atmosphere, when the vertical temperature gradient
>> becomes unstable—akin to the Bénard cell transition—convection can
>> initiate, influenced by factors like the earth's rotation and potential
>> vorticity.
>>
>> ### Potential Vorticity and Stability
>>
>> - **PV on Isentropic Surfaces:** Potential vorticity combines fluid
>> rotation and atmospheric stratification. In meteorology, PV is mapped on
>> isentropic surfaces (constant potential temperature layers), where it
>> highlights regions prone to atmospheric instability and potential
>> convection, akin to early instability in Bénard cells.
>>
>> - **Dynamic Tropopause:** Acting like the fluid surface in a Bénard cell,
>> the dynamic tropopause is flexible, responding to distortions from jet
>> streams. These distortions can lead to convective activity by modifying
>> local stability and vorticity, driving weather patterns similarly to
>> temperature gradients in Bénard convection.
>>
>> ### PV Anomalies and Convective Cells
>>
>> - **Weather Forecasting:** Monitoring PV anomalies helps predict
>> convective weather events, similar to observing Bénard cells to anticipate
>> pattern formation. For example, sharp PV changes can indicate regions ripe
>> for convective storms if conditions like moisture and surface temperature
>> align.
>>
>> - **Role of Isentropic Layering:** Both in Bénard cells and weather
>> systems, the spacing between isentropic layers indicates stability. Closer
>> layers suggest a steep gradient and instability, potentially leading to
>> convective movements. In the atmosphere, this translates to dynamic
>> interactions where lower stability near the surface can trigger or enhance
>> convective processes.
>>
>> ### Conclusion
>>
>> Understanding the parallels between Bénard cell dynamics and atmospheric
>> conditions through potential vorticity and isentropic surfaces not only
>> illustrates universal fluid dynamics principles but also enhances
>> meteorological predictions of convective weather events, demonstrating how
>> small-scale changes in stability can lead to significant atmospheric
>> phenomena.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2024, 2:04 PM Nicholas Thompson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi, Phellow Phriammers,  Nick, here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have been lost in the weather.  This publication,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:sc:us:d481610b-e5d5-4a03-879c-6db6ec1d5e4a
>>>
>>>
>>> with its glorious eye-candy, is an example of what seems to be a new
>>> perspective in meteorology, the DT-PV perspective.  PV refers to a
>>> parameter, potential vorticity, which seems to be a measure of how liable
>>> the atmosphere is to churn; DT refers to the DYNAMIC tropopause.  The
>>> tropopause is the transition zone between the stratosphere and our own
>>> layer, the troposphere, through which gas exchange is limited because the
>>> lapse rate of the troposphere  -- its decline in temperature with fall
>>> of pressure -- is reversed in the stratosphere.   In the Bad Old Days,
>>> we were taught that the tropopause was like a ceiling, tilted upward from
>>> the poles to the tropics.  Now we have begun to think of it as more
>>> like a tent fly, still tilted up equator-ward, but loose and floppy and
>>> buffeted up and down by the jetstreams’ winds. These floppings up and down
>>> have the power to destabilize the lower atmosphere and lead to bad we

Re: [FRIAM] Potential Vorticity and the Dynamic Tropopause

[Stephen Guerin]

Dan GuPTa had this response when asked to relate your .PDF to Bernard cells
and other prompting:

Here’s a integration of potential vorticity (PV), atmospheric stability,
and their relationship to Bénard cells, emphasizing isentropic layering in
both meteorological and experimental fluid dynamics contexts.

### Connecting Bénard Cells and Atmospheric Dynamics

In Bénard cells, fluid heated from below shows a critical transition from
conductive to convective heat transfer, forming cellular patterns.
Similarly, in the atmosphere, when the vertical temperature gradient
becomes unstable—akin to the Bénard cell transition—convection can
initiate, influenced by factors like the earth's rotation and potential
vorticity.

### Potential Vorticity and Stability

- **PV on Isentropic Surfaces:** Potential vorticity combines fluid
rotation and atmospheric stratification. In meteorology, PV is mapped on
isentropic surfaces (constant potential temperature layers), where it
highlights regions prone to atmospheric instability and potential
convection, akin to early instability in Bénard cells.

- **Dynamic Tropopause:** Acting like the fluid surface in a Bénard cell,
the dynamic tropopause is flexible, responding to distortions from jet
streams. These distortions can lead to convective activity by modifying
local stability and vorticity, driving weather patterns similarly to
temperature gradients in Bénard convection.

### PV Anomalies and Convective Cells

- **Weather Forecasting:** Monitoring PV anomalies helps predict convective
weather events, similar to observing Bénard cells to anticipate pattern
formation. For example, sharp PV changes can indicate regions ripe for
convective storms if conditions like moisture and surface temperature align.

- **Role of Isentropic Layering:** Both in Bénard cells and weather
systems, the spacing between isentropic layers indicates stability. Closer
layers suggest a steep gradient and instability, potentially leading to
convective movements. In the atmosphere, this translates to dynamic
interactions where lower stability near the surface can trigger or enhance
convective processes.

### Conclusion

Understanding the parallels between Bénard cell dynamics and atmospheric
conditions through potential vorticity and isentropic surfaces not only
illustrates universal fluid dynamics principles but also enhances
meteorological predictions of convective weather events, demonstrating how
small-scale changes in stability can lead to significant atmospheric
phenomena.

On Thu, Apr 11, 2024, 2:04 PM Nicholas Thompson 
wrote:

>
>
> Hi, Phellow Phriammers,  Nick, here.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I have been lost in the weather.  This publication,
>
>
>
> https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:sc:us:d481610b-e5d5-4a03-879c-6db6ec1d5e4a
>
>
> with its glorious eye-candy, is an example of what seems to be a new
> perspective in meteorology, the DT-PV perspective.  PV refers to a
> parameter, potential vorticity, which seems to be a measure of how liable
> the atmosphere is to churn; DT refers to the DYNAMIC tropopause.  The
> tropopause is the transition zone between the stratosphere and our own
> layer, the troposphere, through which gas exchange is limited because the
> lapse rate of the troposphere  -- its decline in temperature with fall of
> pressure -- is reversed in the stratosphere.   In the Bad Old Days, we
> were taught that the tropopause was like a ceiling, tilted upward from the
> poles to the tropics.  Now we have begun to think of it as more like a
> tent fly, still tilted up equator-ward, but loose and floppy and buffeted
> up and down by the jetstreams’ winds. These floppings up and down have the
> power to destabilize the lower atmosphere and lead to bad weather, if
> conditions there are ripe.
>
>
>
> This is not one of my usual cries for help.  I have some good tutors.
> However, I would love to hear from others whom this paper interests.  In
> particular I am struggling with the notion of potential vorticity, whose
> formula seems to take many odd forms.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology
>
> Clark University,
>
> nthomp...@clarku.edu
>
>
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[FRIAM] Fwd: CDS Friday seminar (CSI 899, CSS 898) for 5 April, 3 PM

[Stephen Guerin]

This should be a good talk by Rob at 3p ET.

BTW, I let Craig Reynolds know and he will probably join the zoom. Herb and
John weren't available.

Stephen


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-- Forwarded message -
From: CDS Department at GMU 
Date: Thu, Apr 4, 2024, 3:16 PM
Subject: CDS Friday seminar (CSI 899, CSS 898) for 5 April, 3 PM
To: 


*Speaker*: Rob Axtell, GMU



*Title*: Simon, Nash, Reynolds: Comrades in Complexity?


*Abstract*: Herbert Simon is well-known as a pioneer in understanding
complex systems, generally, and in the social and behavioral sciences,
specifically, in addition to leading the charge against models in which
people are completely rational. What is perhaps less well-known is that he
was explicit about following many behavioral heuristics in the conduct of
his life, in research, and beyond. John Nash is well known for his
eponymous solution concept in game theory. Craig Reynolds pioneered simple
models of bird flocking based on simple local rules. In this talk I will
compare and contrast the work on these three scientists whose efforts
helped shape thinking about complex systems in the second half of the 20th
C.



*Date*: Friday, 5 April 2024



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Re: [FRIAM] the inequities of uniquity

[Stephen Guerin]

Are you saying it's unique to a degree? ;-)




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On Fri, Mar 22, 2024, 9:31 AM Prof David West  wrote:

> this is 'unique' only if you exclude Vedic, Buddhist, Taoist, ... thought.
>
> davew
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2024, at 9:54 AM, Stephen Guerin wrote:
>
> Prompt:
> Express a unique concept. Make it as profound as possible
>
> https://chat.openai.com/share/649bd4ca-f856-451e-83a2-01fc2cfe47fb
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2024, 6:50 AM glen  wrote:
>
> I guess the question returns to one's criteria for assuming decoupling
> between the very [small|fast] and the very [large|slow]. Or in this case,
> the inner vs. the outer:
>
> Susie Alegre on how digital technology undermines free thought
> https://freethinker.co.uk/2024/03/interview-susie-alegre/
>
> It would be reasonable for Frank to argue that we can generate the space
> of possible context definitions, inductively, from the set of token
> definitions, much like an LLM might. Ideally, you could then measure the
> expressiveness of those inferred contexts/languages and choose the largest
> (most complete; by induction, each context/language *should* be
> self-consistent so we shouldn't have to worry about that).
>
> And if that's how things work (I'm not saying it is), then those
> "attractors" with the finest granularity (very slow to emerge, very
> resistant to dissolution) would be the least novel. Novelty (uniqueness)
> might then be defined in terms of fragility, short half-life, missable
> opportunity. But that would also argue that novelty is either less *real*
> or that the universe/context/language is very *open* and the path from
> fragile to robust obtains like some kind of Hebbian reinforcement, use it
> or lose it, win the hearts and minds or dissipate to nothing.
>
> I.e. there is no such thing as free thought. Thought can't decouple from
> social manipulation.
>
> On 3/21/24 13:38, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> > In the LLM example, completions from some starting state or none, have
> specific probabilities.   An incomplete yet-unseen (unique) utterance would
> be completed based on prior probabilities of individual tokens.
> >
> > I agree that raw materialist uniqueness won't necessarily or often
> override constraints of a situation.  For example, if an employer instructs
> an employee how to put a small, lightweight product in a box, label it, and
> send it to a customer by UPS, the individual differences metabolism of the
> employees aren't likely to matter much when shipping more small,
> lightweight objects to other customers.   It could be the case for a
> professor and student too.   The attractors come from the instruction or
> the curriculum.  One choice constrains the next.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Friam  On Behalf Of glen
> > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 11:50 AM
> > To: friam@redfish.com
> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the inequities of uniquity
> >
> > I was arguing with that same friend yesterday at the pub. I was trying
> to describe how some of us have more cognitive power than others (he's one
> of them). Part of it is "free" power, freed up by his upper middle class
> white good diet privilege. But if we allow that some of it might be
> genetic, then that's a starting point for deciding when novelty matters to
> the ephemerides of two otherwise analogical individuals (or projects if
> projects have an analog to genetics). Such things are well-described in
> twin studies. One twin suffers some PTSD the other doesn't and ... boom ...
> their otherwise lack of uniqueness blossoms into uniqueness.
> >
> > His objection was that even identical twins are not identical. They were
> already unique ... like the Pauli Exclusion Principle or somesuch nonsense.
> Even though it's a bit of a ridiculous argument, I could apply it to your
> sense of avoiding non-novel attractors. No 2 attractors will be identical.
> And no 1 attractor will be unique. So those are moot issues. Distinctions
> without differences, maybe. Woit's rants are legendary. But some of us find
> happiness in wasteful sophistry.
> >
> > What matters is *how* things are the same and how they differ. Their
> qualities and values (nearly) orthogonal to novelty.
> >
> >
> > On 3/21/24 11:29, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> >> If GPT systems capture some sense of "usual" context based on trillions
> of internet tokens, and that corpus is regarded approximately "global
> context", then it seems not so objectionable 

Re: [FRIAM] the inequities of uniquity

[Stephen Guerin]

Prompt:
Express a unique concept. Make it as profound as possible

https://chat.openai.com/share/649bd4ca-f856-451e-83a2-01fc2cfe47fb



On Fri, Mar 22, 2024, 6:50 AM glen  wrote:

> I guess the question returns to one's criteria for assuming decoupling
> between the very [small|fast] and the very [large|slow]. Or in this case,
> the inner vs. the outer:
>
> Susie Alegre on how digital technology undermines free thought
> https://freethinker.co.uk/2024/03/interview-susie-alegre/
>
> It would be reasonable for Frank to argue that we can generate the space
> of possible context definitions, inductively, from the set of token
> definitions, much like an LLM might. Ideally, you could then measure the
> expressiveness of those inferred contexts/languages and choose the largest
> (most complete; by induction, each context/language *should* be
> self-consistent so we shouldn't have to worry about that).
>
> And if that's how things work (I'm not saying it is), then those
> "attractors" with the finest granularity (very slow to emerge, very
> resistant to dissolution) would be the least novel. Novelty (uniqueness)
> might then be defined in terms of fragility, short half-life, missable
> opportunity. But that would also argue that novelty is either less *real*
> or that the universe/context/language is very *open* and the path from
> fragile to robust obtains like some kind of Hebbian reinforcement, use it
> or lose it, win the hearts and minds or dissipate to nothing.
>
> I.e. there is no such thing as free thought. Thought can't decouple from
> social manipulation.
>
> On 3/21/24 13:38, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> > In the LLM example, completions from some starting state or none, have
> specific probabilities.   An incomplete yet-unseen (unique) utterance would
> be completed based on prior probabilities of individual tokens.
> >
> > I agree that raw materialist uniqueness won't necessarily or often
> override constraints of a situation.  For example, if an employer instructs
> an employee how to put a small, lightweight product in a box, label it, and
> send it to a customer by UPS, the individual differences metabolism of the
> employees aren't likely to matter much when shipping more small,
> lightweight objects to other customers.   It could be the case for a
> professor and student too.   The attractors come from the instruction or
> the curriculum.  One choice constrains the next.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Friam  On Behalf Of glen
> > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 11:50 AM
> > To: friam@redfish.com
> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the inequities of uniquity
> >
> > I was arguing with that same friend yesterday at the pub. I was trying
> to describe how some of us have more cognitive power than others (he's one
> of them). Part of it is "free" power, freed up by his upper middle class
> white good diet privilege. But if we allow that some of it might be
> genetic, then that's a starting point for deciding when novelty matters to
> the ephemerides of two otherwise analogical individuals (or projects if
> projects have an analog to genetics). Such things are well-described in
> twin studies. One twin suffers some PTSD the other doesn't and ... boom ...
> their otherwise lack of uniqueness blossoms into uniqueness.
> >
> > His objection was that even identical twins are not identical. They were
> already unique ... like the Pauli Exclusion Principle or somesuch nonsense.
> Even though it's a bit of a ridiculous argument, I could apply it to your
> sense of avoiding non-novel attractors. No 2 attractors will be identical.
> And no 1 attractor will be unique. So those are moot issues. Distinctions
> without differences, maybe. Woit's rants are legendary. But some of us find
> happiness in wasteful sophistry.
> >
> > What matters is *how* things are the same and how they differ. Their
> qualities and values (nearly) orthogonal to novelty.
> >
> >
> > On 3/21/24 11:29, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> >> If GPT systems capture some sense of "usual" context based on trillions
> of internet tokens, and that corpus is regarded approximately "global
> context", then it seems not so objectionable to call "unusual", new
> training items that contribute to fine-tuning loss.
> >>
> >> It seems reasonable to worry that ubiquitous GPT systems reduce social
> entropy by encouraging copying instead of new thinking, but it could also
> have the reverse effect:  If I am immediately aware that an idea is not
> novel, I may avoid attractors that agents that wrongly believe they are
> "independent" will gravitate toward.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Friam  On Behalf Of glen
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 7:49 AM
> >> To: friam@redfish.com
> >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the inequities of uniquity
> >>
> >> A friend of mine constantly reminds me that language is dynamic, not
> fixed in stone from a billion years ago. So, if you find others
> consistently using a term in a way that you think is wrong, then *you* 

Re: [FRIAM] Biospheres

[Stephen Guerin]

I think you're thinking of Flynn's brother, Morris  ;-p



On Fri, Mar 1, 2024, 2:03 PM Steve Smith  wrote:

> SG... so succinct with sufficient but not excess tangents, I bow to you!
>
> And then I tangent again.  Your reference to Bannon's "help" with
> Biosphere I (aka earth/gaia/mother-earth) reminds me to offer up:
>
> American Dharma <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8804284/>
>
> a documentary by Errol Flynn who is one of Bannon's heroes as a
> film-maker.  Bannon's adulation of Flynn gave Flynn great access to expose
> Bannon for what he is in a larger but not specifically snarky way than most
> Bannon hit-pieces.   Bannon pretty much shows all of his own colors in his
> own unprompted words in the film... Kinda like Trump at every one of his
> rallys, but with (slightly) less stakes.
>
>
> On 3/1/24 1:30 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 10:04 AM Jochen Fromm  wrote:
>
>> Biosphere 2 near Tuscon was a similar, even more extreme experiment to
>> create a self-sustaining ecosystem. The experiment was considered a failure
>> and the whole center belongs now to the University of Arizona.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2
>>
>
> The creators of Biosphere II are from Santa Fe and still live here on Synergia
> Ranch <https://synergiaranch.com/>.  I am in awe of what their "Theater
> of All Possibilities" pulled off in the 60s through the 90s and even today
> as a creative collective.  I highly recommend the documentary Spaceship
> Earth (https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/spaceship-earth) to give a more
> sympathetic background compared to how they were crucified by the press and
> later "screwed" by Steve Bannon brought in by Ed Bass to make it more
> commercial.
>
> Note the great Howard Odum's point on the Wikipedia you linked:
>
> " There was controversy when the public learned that the project had
> allowed an injured member to leave and return, carrying new material
> inside. The team claimed the only new supplies brought in were plastic
> bags, but others accused them of bringing food and other items. More
> criticism was raised when it was learned that, likewise, the project
> injected oxygen in January 1993 to make up for a failure in the balance of
> the system that resulted in the amount of oxygen steadily declining.[56]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2#cite_note-56> Some thought
> that these criticisms ignored that Biosphere 2 was an experiment where the
> unexpected would occur, adding to knowledge of how complex ecologies
> develop and interact, not a demonstration where everything was known in
> advance.[57] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2#cite_note-57> H.
> T. Odum <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_T._Odum> noted: "The
> management process during 1992–1993 using data to develop theory, test it
> with simulation, and apply corrective actions was in the best scientific
> tradition. Yet some journalists crucified the management in the public
> press, treating the project as if it was an Olympic contest to see how much
> could be done without opening the doors".[58]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2#cite_note-58>"
>
>
> That all said, I understand the larger context in which you ask the
> question and the difficulty of creating a self-sustaining ecosystem (and
> social system). BTW, I think we learned as much about social systems as
> ecosystems with Biosphere II to help us with Biosphere I with all the Steve
> Bannon's running around :-)
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Biospheres

[Stephen Guerin]

On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 10:04 AM Jochen Fromm  wrote:

> Biosphere 2 near Tuscon was a similar, even more extreme experiment to
> create a self-sustaining ecosystem. The experiment was considered a failure
> and the whole center belongs now to the University of Arizona.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2
>

The creators of Biosphere II are from Santa Fe and still live here on Synergia
Ranch .  I am in awe of what their "Theater of
All Possibilities" pulled off in the 60s through the 90s and even today as
a creative collective.  I highly recommend the documentary Spaceship Earth (
https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/spaceship-earth) to give a more
sympathetic background compared to how they were crucified by the press and
later "screwed" by Steve Bannon brought in by Ed Bass to make it more
commercial.

Note the great Howard Odum's point on the Wikipedia you linked:

" There was controversy when the public learned that the project had
allowed an injured member to leave and return, carrying new material
inside. The team claimed the only new supplies brought in were plastic
bags, but others accused them of bringing food and other items. More
criticism was raised when it was learned that, likewise, the project
injected oxygen in January 1993 to make up for a failure in the balance of
the system that resulted in the amount of oxygen steadily declining.[56]
 Some thought that
these criticisms ignored that Biosphere 2 was an experiment where the
unexpected would occur, adding to knowledge of how complex ecologies
develop and interact, not a demonstration where everything was known in
advance.[57]  H. T.
Odum  noted: "The management
process during 1992–1993 using data to develop theory, test it with
simulation, and apply corrective actions was in the best scientific
tradition. Yet some journalists crucified the management in the public
press, treating the project as if it was an Olympic contest to see how much
could be done without opening the doors".[58]
"


That all said, I understand the larger context in which you ask the
question and the difficulty of creating a self-sustaining ecosystem (and
social system). BTW, I think we learned as much about social systems as
ecosystems with Biosphere II to help us with Biosphere I with all the Steve
Bannon's running around :-)
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Re: [FRIAM] The Regenerative Development Manifesto

[Stephen Guerin]

Is it from Santa Fe's Regenesis?

https://regenesisgroup.com/manifesto/




On Sat, Feb 24, 2024, 8:19 AM Merle Lefkoff  wrote:

> I'm getting ready to "use" the wonderful " Regenerative Manifesto" in many
> ways.  I want to make sure I give proper attribution.
>
> David Eric Smith?
>
> --
> Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D.
> Center for Emergent Diplomacy
> emergentdiplomacy.org
> Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Re: [FRIAM] The problems of interdisciplinary research

[Stephen Guerin]

  “math had become too big; nobody could understand more than 1/4 of
it”.

"But with four neighbors I can compute most of it" ;-)

On Sat, Feb 10, 2024, 5:25 AM David Eric Smith  wrote:

> There’s a famous old rant by von Neumann, known at least by those who were
> around to hear it, or so I was told by Martin Shubik.
>
> von Neumann was grumping that “math had become too big; nobody could
> understand more than 1/4 of it”.  As always with von Neumann, the point of
> saying something included an element of self-aggrandizement: von Neumann
> was inviting the listener to notice that _he_ was the one who could
> understand a quarter of all existing math at the time (whether or not such
> an absurdity could be called “true” in any sense).
>
> I have wondered if this problem marks a qualitative threshold from which
> to define a “complex systems” science.  The premise would be that all
> innovations ultimately occur in individual human heads, triggered somehow.
>  (And much of the skill of science is to structure your environment of
> reading and experience and people to “trigger” you in productive ways,
> since insight isn’t something that can be willed into existence).  But
> those ideas need to be answerable to the fullest scope of whatever is
> currently understood that is pertinent.
>
> The old answer used to be to cram more and more of current knowledge into
> single heads as the fuel for their insights, and then to limit to more and
> more rarified heads that could hold the most and still come up with
> something.
>
> But at some point, that model no longer works because there is a limit
> (some kind of extreme-value distribution, I guess) to what human heads can
> hold, at all.
>
> The project then shifts over into an effort of community design with
> explicit concerns that are not reducible to head-packing.  How do good
> insights come into existence, still limited by heads, but properly
> responsible to much more knowledge than the heads do, or even could,
> contain?
>
>
> I can, of course, shoot down my own way of saying this, immediately.  In a
> sense, engineers have been doing this for some very very long time.  No
> “person” knows what is in a 777 aircraft (or for the Europeans, an A380).
> Those cases still feel different to me somehow, and like a more standard
> expansion of the concept of the assembly line and modularization of tasks
> through reliable interfaces (the various ideas behind object design etc.)
>  I imagine that the interesting problem of idea-finding for complex
> phenomena are those that arise when you have modularized as much as you
> can, and you have run out of interesting things to add within the modules,
> because the things you can’t see transcend them.
>
> But of course I haven’t “made” anything of this string of words, like a
> self-help consultancy or the presidency of any institution.
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:45 PM, Roger Critchlow  wrote:
>
> Yeah, it seems like the premise of the cartoon, or maybe Jochen's
> interpretation, was that people have limited scopes of application, and the
> average scope of application doesn't include interdisciplinary research.
> But there are people who have larger scope and have a lot of fun doing
> interdisciplinary projects.  And if an interdisciplinary group can adapt to
> its participant areas of strength, lots of interesting things can happen.
>
> -- rec --
>
> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 3:19 PM Frank Wimberly  wrote:
>
>> I didn't read the article but Carnegie Mellon, where I worked for almost
>> 20 years, prides itself on the amount of interdisciplinary research
>> accomplished there..  Herb Simon had appointments in psychology, computer
>> science, business and public policy, I believe.  I was a coauthor of papers
>> in robotics, public policy, computer science and philosophy.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 1:54 PM Jochen Fromm  wrote:
>>
>>> Tom Gauld describes most of the problems of interdisciplinary research
>>> in a single image
>>>
>>> https://www.newscientist.com/article/2389834-tom-gauld-on-areas-of-expertise/
>>>
>>> -J.
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[FRIAM] 0 years ago today - Our Owen Densmore as a leading star on stage with Jobs unveiling the first Macintosh

[Stephen Guerin]

The 1984 Macintosh Ad

shown during the Jan 22 Superbowl teased the Jan 26, 1984 introduction of
the Mac at the  Apple Shareholders meeting (I don't have the video).  Jobs
did a demo and then a panel discussion with 8 members of the software and
hardware team  The whole presentation including the developer panel was
repeated 4 days later at a Boston Computer Society meeting. Our Owen
Densmore is one of those 8 as the software engineer lured from Xerox to
work on WYSIWIG printing and embedding a software rendering engine in the
printer itself. here's the time codes of these discussions

   - https://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=1336 – Jobs explaining
   the printer
   - https://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=1741 - Owen introduction
   - https://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=2379 - Randy Wigginton
   nods to Owen’s printer work
   - https://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=2683 - Printing question
   answered by Jobs and Owen
   - https://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=3352 - Owen gets up to
   get a floppy disk :]
   - https://youtu.be/1tQ5XwvjPmA?feature=shared=3744 - Owen comments on
   the Mac’s multi-tasking abilities

Owen left Apple to join Sun in the last half of the 80s and worked on NeWS
- postscipt-based windowing system.
NeXT would later adopt instead of QuickDraw for its windowing system.

When Jobs was at NeXT, he gave this talk at MIT Sloan School

~8
years later. In the talk, I find his observations interesting esp wrt to
how important printing and desktop publishing would be for the Mac and they
didn't predict it.

*When we did the Macintosh, we never anticipated desktop publishing
when we created the Mac. Sounds funny, because that turned out to be
the Mac's compelling advantage, right? The thing that it did not one
and a
half or two times better than everything else, but four or five times
better than anything else, where you had to have one. We never
anticipated it. We anticipated bitmap displays and laser printers, but
we never thought about pagemaker, that whole industry really coming
down to the desktop. Maybe we weren't smart enough.*

*But we were smart enough to see it start to happen nine to 12 months
later. And we changed our entire marketing and business strategy to
focus on desktop publishing, and it became the Trojan horse that
eventually got the Mac into corporate America, where it could show its
owners all the other wonderful things it could do.*

Apple has Owen to thank for that!

Redfish, btw, was an Apple VAR in the early 90s helping commercial printers
to prepress - digital scanning, digital halftoning, color separation,
digital imaging (early photoshop), plate-ready film printing, and page
layout (QuarkXpress and PageMaker). Of course, I didn't know Owen yet - I
would first meet him at the 2000 Complex Systems Summer School where we
were both students from the BusNet. I was from BiosGroup and Owen from Sun
R Labs.

Mad respect for your changing the world, Owen! And you ain't done yet. :-)

-Stephen
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Re: [FRIAM] Breaking Bad and Free Will

[Stephen Guerin]

Anyone interested in feeding FRIAM Archive to a custom LLM. :-)

Prompt: Interpret Marcus use of gdb analogy in this thread:

GPT:
The analogy used by Marcus in the context of the TV show "Breaking Bad" and
the concept of free will involves a comparison with using the "step"
command in GDB (GNU Debugger). GDB is a tool used by programmers to debug
code. The "step" command in GDB allows the user to execute program code one
line at a time, observing the behavior and state of the program at each
step.

In "Breaking Bad," the main character, Walter White, is drawn into a life
of crime. The analogy suggests that watching Walter White's descent into
this life is like using the "step" command in GDB. Each step represents a
decision or action taken by Walter, leading him deeper into the criminal
world. Just as a programmer observes the progression of a program one step
at a time in GDB, the viewer observes Walter's journey into criminality in
a step-by-step manner.

The implication here is that Walter's choices, while appearing to be
individual conscious decisions, are part of an inevitable progression, much
like the sequential execution of code in a debugger. This raises questions
about free will and determinism, mirroring the discussion in the FRIAM
group about whether free will is an illusion, especially in the context of
strong compulsions or character traits that might limit one's range of
choices.

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On Thu, Jan 25, 2024, 4:20 PM Frank Wimberly  wrote:

> GNU Debugger?
>
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> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
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>
> 505 670-9918
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>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024, 4:11 PM Marcus Daniels  wrote:
>
>> Walter White was drawn into that life as sure as water runs downhill.
>>  Watching him go deeper and deeper was like repeating “step” in GDB.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Friam  *On Behalf Of *Jochen Fromm
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 25, 2024 1:34 PM
>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
>> friam@redfish.com>
>> *Subject:* [FRIAM] Breaking Bad and Free Will
>>
>>
>>
>> Since one of you mentioned today that free will is a recurring FRIAM
>> topic I was thinking about it and found this SCIAM article that argues that
>> human beings do have the power to make conscious choices.
>>
>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/free-will-is-only-an-illusion-if-you-are-too/
>>
>> On the other hand the drug addicts in Breaking Bad and elsewhere clearly
>> demonstrate that drug addiction inevitably takes away our free will and
>> replaces it by a strong compulsion to get and consume the drug, no matter
>> how devastating the consequences are.
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert McKee says in his book "Story: Substance, Structure, Style and the
>> Principles of Screenwriting" that true character is revealed in the choices
>> a human being makes under pressure. Could you say that a strong character
>> or personality reduce our free will too, because they restrict our choices
>> and decisions?
>>
>>
>>
>> -J.
>>
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[FRIAM] *Do not respond to this thread ** Re: Fwd: Action Required: Confirm Your Groups.io Membership to Continue Receiving Group Emails

[Stephen Guerin]

No need to confirm your desire to stay in FRIAM - though we do appreciate
your sentiments :-)

The request to confirm staying in the group is not from the FRIAM ListServ
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This thread started from Doug who is apparently in 18th Century Worlds
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>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024, 12:34 AM Doug carmichael 
>>> wrote:
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Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: How Much of the World Is It Possible to Model? | The New Yorker

[Stephen Guerin]

the author, Dan Rockmore, was Director of SFI complex systems summer school
2005-2009.



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On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, 4:04 AM Tom Johnson  wrote:

>
>
> ===
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> Santa Fe, New Mexico
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>
> -- Forwarded message 
>
>
> Might be of interest to you.
>
>
> https://www.newyorker.com/culture/annals-of-inquiry/how-much-of-the-world-is-it-possible-to-model
>
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Meeting Tomorrow 12/22

[Stephen Guerin]

Reminder to meet a Saveur today


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On Thu, Dec 21, 2023, 1:14 PM Frank Wimberly  wrote:

> We will meet at Saveur beginning at 9:00am.  It's at the intersection of
> Galisteo and Cerrillos downtown near the new courthouse.
>
> Frank
>
> ---
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> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
> Santa Fe, NM 87505
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Re: [FRIAM] Working for the Military Institute of Technology Causes Cognitive Dissonance

[Stephen Guerin]

Yes, there was a certain golden period of gp's building on Koza and others
work like  Forrest Bennett's Beowulf 1000-pentium cluster back in the late
90s.
https://www.genetic-programming.com/machine1000.html

I agree with you, Marcus, that it would be good to see versions of this
springing forth on modern architectures.


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On Fri, Dec 15, 2023, 4:18 PM Marcus Daniels  wrote:

> I don’t understand why Genetic Programming hasn’t been a bigger thing.  It
> seems like another case, like ML, where having adequate hardware is key to
> really making it work.   I hope interest in AI will dust-off or reinvent
> many such approaches.I don’t care who gets the credit.
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam  *On Behalf Of *Roger Critchlow
> *Sent:* Friday, December 15, 2023 3:05 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Working for the Military Institute of Technology
> Causes Cognitive Dissonance
>
>
>
> I see I missed this on HackerNews yesterday, the comments cover a range of
> positions.
>
>
>
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38642651
>
>
>
> -- rec --
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:48 PM Roger Critchlow  wrote:
>
> On the subject of cognitive dissonance, and working for large research
> institutions
>
>
>
>https://people.idsia.ch/~juergen/ai-priority-disputes.html
>
>
>
> in which Jürgen Schmidhuber complains that LeCun, Bengio, and Hinton claim
> to have invented modern AI when they were actually mostly reinventing,
> improving, and reimplementing 30 year old work from Schmidhuber's lab on
> faster hardware, without crediting any of the prior work.
>
>
>
> -- rec --
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:17 PM Marcus Daniels 
> wrote:
>
> While I think LLMs will be hard to use for analysis tasks, there is
> something satisfying to see certain people squirm as LLMs, as Altman says,
> “Blow right through the Turing test.”
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam  *On Behalf Of *Roger Frye
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 13, 2023 6:47 AM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Working for the Military Institute of Technology
> Causes Cognitive Dissonance
>
>
>
> Eric,
>
>
>
> I agree with your critique, especially about Dresser's two-facedness. What
> struck me most was how Chomsky’s cognitive dissonance about military
> application could drive him to abstraction and unworkable theory.
>
>
>
> Chomsky has been one of my heroes. I have marched with him, but never
> agreed with his linguistics. But then never fully agreed with any linguist.
>
>
>
> I worked with people back in the 60s at Bolt Beranek and Newman and with
> professors at MIT who believed they could communicate with computers in
> English but was unaware of the military intention. I created English style
> GUIs and wrote COBOL compilers, but none very successful. Who knew that AI
> chat would be so successful this year.
>
>
>
> -Roger
>
>
>
> On Dec 13, 2023, at 3:34 AM, David Eric Smith  wrote:
>
>
>
> Wanted to say thank you for this.
>
>
>
> I don’t know that I find Dresser’s psychologizing of Chomsky persuasive at
> all.  But it’s nice that what leaks through the general history is
> Chomsky’s commitment as an operator.
>
>
>
> I liked that they had the little video clip in there.  What comes through
> (to me, so bright that it quenches out everything else) is the one constant
> of Chomsky, across his history and in all the modes of his activity: the
> superciliousness, and the attitude of Olympian contempt he puts on, at all
> times, standing in judgment of everyone and everything.
>
>
>
> The way Dresser doesn’t roll over to Chomsky’s assertion of absolute
> domination, in the main text, was kind of a relief, though his blithe
> dismissal of Chomsky’s having had any substantive reason for being an
> influencer looked like trouble.  The comments — surprisingly content-rich —
> unpack that trouble, but even there the exchange is interesting.  The
> defenders say Dresser misses the point of the syntactic work and
> mis-represents by taking things out of context (I think probably true), and
> then Dresser answers by providing explicit statements that are hard to
> understand as being any less ridiculous than he claims, since they are
> asserted with characteristic Chomskian authoritarianism.  What I take this
> for is evidence of what I see as the major pattern: Chomsky’s writing is as
> close to Newspeak as we probably have in something that is glossed by some
> as a science (and that, in a good world, could be, and is trying to become,
> more of a science).  His writing, over the decades and lots of books (here
> referring to the linguistics) has essentially no stable constructive
> assertions, yet at every point the delivery is “This is what I 

[FRIAM] [Classified] SkewT/Appleman Chart Investigative research needing to estimate contrail formation on historical flight data

[Stephen Guerin]

Nick,

Your country needs you. Now is the time that we need to understand SkewT
diagrams for a visual investigation project. I can't say too much over
email as this is highly sensitive*, but if I have you a lat/long and
altitude, do you have a source of weather data to let me know if a contrail
would form and how long it would persist? We can start with Appleman

chart

but
perhaps you have better models. I'm really after the data sources give that
I have the flight track of a collection of aircraft. I'm trying to
disambiguate which flight it could be in a ground photo for which I don't
know exactly where or when it was taken.

This incident involves aircraft flying in earth's shadow at night time,
through civilian dawn and out of the shadow emerging into sunrise.
Classified Briefing: For your eyes only. here
 is the mission dossier
 where we need to confirm SEOUL-DFW
contrail emergence at the tail of this track. The plane is currently at the
head of the contrail.


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Re: [FRIAM] Open AI

[Stephen Guerin]

Sam is back in the for-profit and the non-profit board is gone.
inversion of control:   the tail wagging the dog in corporate governance

[image: image.png]
https://openai.com/our-structure

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On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 12:42 AM Pieter Steenekamp <
piet...@randcontrols.co.za> wrote:

> Hot off the press; Sam is going back to OpenAI.
> A new board has been appointed.
> It seems like Sam got what he wanted.
>
> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023, 7:22 am Pieter Steenekamp, <
> piet...@randcontrols.co.za> wrote:
>
>> Background
>> OpenAI is actually two companies. The original not for profit parent
>> company and the for profit subsidiary.
>> The parent, not for profit, appoints the board of the for profit
>> subsidiary and does not have a fudiciary obligation towards the financial
>> well-being of the company, only towards humanity; to ensure that AI is
>> developed for the good of humanity.
>> On Friday the board fired the CEO, Sam Altman, without giving reasons.
>> Since then Sam got an offer from Microsoft to join them and start a new
>> AI Microsoft subsidiary. Sam is reluctant to take it, he seems to think
>> that will kill OpenAi.
>> 95 percent of OpenAI employees signed a letter that if Sam goes to
>> Microsoft they will join him. Microsoft said they will accomdate them.
>> Now we are waiting - will OpenAI take Sam back? Will Sam and 95 percent
>> of OpenAI's employees join MS?
>> Or is there something else going to happen?
>> A Netflix movie couldn't have more drama and suspens.
>>
>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023, 2:14 am Marcus Daniels, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/11/openai-ilya-sutskever-sam-altman-fired/676072/?utm_source=copy-link_medium=social_campaign=share
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Friam  on behalf of Marcus Daniels <
>>> mar...@snoutfarm.com>
>>> *Date: *Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 4:00 PM
>>> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
>>> friam@redfish.com>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] Open AI
>>>
>>> Rumors I have read:
>>>
>>> 1) Sam Altman was looking for money from sovereign wealth fund from
>>> Saudi Arabia to fund an NVIDIA competitor.   And this was one example of
>>> him working side gigs not related to the Open AI mission.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2) That the energy demands of LLMs on Azure are just too expensive, and
>>> the money lost per query is becoming too expensive, even for Microsoft’s
>>> hosting of OpenAI.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 3) That there was a breakthrough in artificial general intelligence and
>>> Sam Altman wouldn’t press the brakes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Friam  on behalf of Pietro Terna <
>>> pietro.te...@unito.it>
>>> *Date: *Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 2:29 PM
>>> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
>>> friam@redfish.com>
>>> *Subject: *[FRIAM] Open AI
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> can you explain to an old Italian friend the Open AI soap opera or
>>> drama?
>>>
>>> Best, Pietro
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "It is the hallmark of any deep truth that its negation is also a deep 
>>> truth." Neils Bohr.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A https://terna.to.it/breviArticoli.html riporto dei miei brevi articoli su 
>>> temi di attualità.
>>>
>>> Asterischi da Verso Itaca a 
>>> https://verso-itaca.it/asterischi-da-verso-itaca/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Home page: https://terna.to.it  Twitter: https://twitter.com/@pietroterna
>>>
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Re: [FRIAM] Theil

[Stephen Guerin]

Woah, great news, Roger. cc'ing Ed, Frank, Josh and Steve Smith.

PS I'll be in Santa Fe this Friday and probably at Friam.


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On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 5:12 PM Roger Critchlow  wrote:

> The stars have aligned to make this assembly theory day!
>
> First this article on How Did Life Begin:
>
> https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/11/14/1082828/how-did-life-begin/
>
> pointed me to an open access article:
>https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06600-9
>Assembly theory explains and quantifies selection and evolution
>
> and then Eric S noticed the interview with Walker and Cronin
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFxIazwNP_0
>
> The interview itself, even with Fridman, is much more entertaining than
> Claude's summary.
>
> Walker and Cronin have a shared idiom for talking about the history of
> complexity in the universe which they use quite casually in the interview.
> This is probably the result of long familiarity with each other (Sara
> Walker, Lee Cronin, and Eric Smith were part of the Science Organizing
> Committee and speakers at Reconceptualizing the Origin of Life in November
> 2015) and of intense collaboration and arguments over Skype during the
> covid lockdown.  They also talk informally about a lot of ideas they've
> been thinking about.
>
> -- rec --
>
> PS I'll be in Santa Fe this Friday and probably at Friam.
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[FRIAM] Constraint Propagation and "Wave Function Collapse" Algorithm

[Stephen Guerin]

Just went down a 2-hour rabbit hole on the "wave function collapse"
algorithm that emerged in graphics in 2016 but just came onto my radar...
Has anyone else explored it already?
  https://github.com/mxgmn/WaveFunctionCollapse

Many of you have written versions of constraint propagation algorithms in
one form or another. I like how this is framed by satisfying local
constraints with tiles (forward) and global constraints with overlaps
(backward propagation).  Of course, the name of the algorithm may be
metaphorical to QM as is its use of superposition for local stacks of
possible states, but I can't help wonder how Wheeler-Feynman Absorber
Theory or Cramer's Transactional Interpretation might be cast as similar
kinds of the same algorithm.

more general applications:
  https://robertheaton.com/2018/12/17/wavefunction-collapse-algorithm/

always like Dan Shiffman's Coding Train
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI_y2GAlQFM

https://github.com/avihuxp/WaveFunctionCollapse#demo

A nice interactive to get the feel for it:
  https://oskarstalberg.com/game/wave/wave.html

A version in Julia :

https://github.com/roberthoenig/WaveFunctionCollapse.jl/blob/master/usage.ipynb

-S

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[FRIAM] **tomorrow** 9/20/2023 WedTech lunchtime talk: Kasra Manavi: On Graph Traversals and Traffic Evacuation

[Stephen Guerin]

In person and Zoom
Wed 9/20 12:30p

Speaker: Kasra Manavi, Simtable
Title: On Graph Traversals and Traffic Evacuation

Abstract:
Kas will present work on a Santa Fe Evacuation model based on Evacuation
Zones, Destination Sinks and graph flood fills for vehicle routing

Where:
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Zoom link: https://zoom.simtable.com

BYO lunch, beer and/or wine. We'll also have Pizza available. ($5/slice
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Re: [FRIAM] the Monty Hall problem

[Stephen Guerin]

On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 9:19 PM Eric Smith  wrote:

> Wow.  Old terminator.  New terminator
>

Which one works for Skynet?  The fight scene:
https://youtu.be/TVA4-SNxErc?t=41
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Re: [FRIAM] the Monty Hall problem

[Stephen Guerin]

I think this might be a more concise explanation:

Switching wins if you initially pick a goat (2/3 chance) and loses if you
pick the car (1/3 chance), so the win probability with switching is 2/3.

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On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 8:46 PM Nicholas Thompson 
wrote:

> In a  moment of supreme indolence [and no small amount of arrogance] I
> took on the rhetorical challenge of explaining the correct solution of the
> Monty Hall problem (switch).   I worked at it for several days and now I
> think it is perfect.
>
> *The Best Explanation of the Solution of the Monty Hall Problem*
>
> Here is the standard version of the Monty Hall Problem, as laid out in
> Wikipedia:
>
> *Suppose you're on a game show, and you're given the choice of three
> doors: Behind one door is a car; behind the others, goats. You pick a door,
> say No. 1, and the host, who knows what's behind the doors, opens another
> door, say No. 3, which has a goat. He then says to you, "Do you want to
> pick door No. 2?" Is it to your advantage to switch your choice?*
>
> This standard presentation of the problem contains some sly “intuition
> traps”,[1] <#m_3313630866437708646__ftn1> so put aside goats and cars for
> a moment. Let’s talk about thimbles and peas.  I ask you to close your
> eyes, and then I put before you three thimbles, one of which hides a pea.
> If you choose the one hiding a pea, you get all the gold in China.  Call
> the three thimbles, 1, 2, and 3.
>
> 1.I ask you to choose one of the thimbles.  You choose 1.  What
> is the probability that you choose the pea.   ANS: 1/3.
>
> 2.   Now, I group the thimbles as follows.  I slide thimble 2 a bit
> closer to thimble 3 (in a matter that would not dislodge a pea) and I
> declare that thimble 1 forms one group, A, and thimble 2 and 3 another
> group, B.
>
> 3.   I ask you to choose whether to *choose from* Group A or Group B:
> i.e, I am asking you to make your choice of thimble in two stages, first
> deciding on a group, and then deciding which member of the group to pick.
> Which *group* should you choose from?  ANS: It doesn’t matter.   If the
> pea is in Group A and you choose from it, you have only one option to
> choose, so the probability is 1 x 1/3.  If the pea is in Group B and you
> choose from it, the pea has 2/3 chance of being in the group, but you must
> choose only one of the two members of the group, so your chance is again,
> 1/3:  2/3 x ½ = 1/3.
>
> 4.   Now, I offer to guarantee you that, if the pea is in group B,
> and you choose from group B, you will choose the thimble with the pea.
> (Perhaps I promise to slide the pea under whichever Group B thimble you
> choose, if you pick from Group B.)  Should you choose from Group A or
> Group B?   ANS:   Group B.  If you chose from Group A, and the pea is
> there, only one choice is possible, so the probability is still 1 x 1/3=1/3.
> Now, however, if you chose from group B, and the pea is there, since you
> are guaranteed to make the right choice, the probability of getting the pea
> is 1 x 2/3=2/3.
>
> 5.   The effect of Monty Hall’s statement of the problem is to sort
> the doors into two groups, the Selected Group containing one door and the
> Unselected Group, containing two doors.   When he then shows you which
> door in the unselected group does not contain the car, your choice now
> boils down to choosing between Group A and Group B, which, as we have known
> all along, is a choice between a 1/3 and a 2/3 chance of choosing the group
> that contains the pea.
>
> --
>
> [1] <#m_3313630866437708646__ftnref1> The intuition trap has something to
> do with the fact that doors, goats, and cars are difficult to group.  So,
> it’s harder to see that by asking you to select one door at the beginning
> of the procedure, Monty has gotten you the group the doors and take the
> problem in two steps.  This doesn’t change the outcome, but it does
> require us to keep the conditional probabilities firmly in mind. “IF the
> car is in the unselected group, AND I choose from the unselected group, and
> I have been guaranteed to get the car if I choose from the unselected
> group, THEN, choosing from the unselected group is the better option.”
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Re: [FRIAM] Swirlies redux

[Stephen Guerin]

Yeah those students got a C+ for sloppy conclusions with no evidence.

I see your crucifix and raise you with this C- lab report :-)


**Student Lab Report**

**Title:** Natural Selection's Influence on Vortex Formation in Fluid
Dynamics

**Objective:** This lab aimed to investigate vortex formation in fluid
dynamics, exploring how principles akin to natural selection could explain
the emergence and persistence of specific vortex structures and behaviors.

**Method:** The experiment utilized two 2-liter clear plastic bottles,
water, a tube connector, and glitter to observe vortex formation.

**Findings:**

1. **Emergence of Dominant Vortex Patterns:** Certain vortex patterns
persisted over time while others dissipated. The more stable and efficient
patterns became dominant, akin to how natural selection allows favorable
traits to prevail.

2. **Adaptation to System Changes:** When the system's conditions were
altered, different vortex patterns emerged, demonstrating adaptability
comparable to organisms responding to environmental changes.

3. **Efficiency as a Selection Criterion:** Vortices that allowed quicker
drainage succeeded in the system. This efficiency served as a selection
criterion, parallel to how natural selection favors traits that enhance
survival or reproduction.

4. **Real-World Applicability:** The concept was extended to real-world
weather systems, where specific patterns may persist due to their stability
or efficiency, analogous to the operation of natural selection in
biological systems.

**Conclusion:** This investigation into vortex formation through the lens
of natural selection offered a unique perspective on fluid dynamics. By
identifying principles common to both natural selection and vortex
behavior, we gained insights into why certain structures emerge and
persist. This approach has potential implications for understanding various
physical phenomena, from small-scale fluid dynamics to large-scale weather
systems, and could even offer insights into interdisciplinary areas where
physics and biology converge.

On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 1:51 PM David Eric Smith  wrote:

> It’s great that the principle of least action applies only to vortices.
> Kinda like a crucifix, that wards off whatever crucifixes ward off.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> On Aug 6, 2023, at 12:09 AM, Stephen Guerin 
> wrote:
>
> There were 10 or so intermediate prompts to drive chatGPT to that lab
> report.
>
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 8:52 AM Stephen Guerin 
> wrote:
>
>> chatGPT, you are a graduate student at c the Santa Fe Institute's complex
>> systems summer school, write a lab report on your experiences with the
>> tornado in a tube.
>>
>>
>> **Student Lab Report**
>>
>> **Title:** Insights into Fluid Dynamics and Symmetry Breaking via
>> 'Tornado in a Tube'
>>
>> **Objective:** This lab aimed to explore the critical principles of fluid
>> dynamics, including the principle of least action, surface tension, broken
>> symmetry, and their impacts on fluid behavior, using the 'tornado in a
>> tube' experiment. We introduced variations in the system's orientation,
>> structural changes, and the application of external forces to further
>> understand these principles.
>>
>> **Method:** Our setup included two 2-liter clear plastic bottles, water,
>> a tube connector, and glitter for fluid visualization. We followed the
>> procedure outlined in the lab exercise, with additional testing for
>> different system orientations, external force applications, and structural
>> modifications.
>>
>> **Findings:**
>>
>> 1. **Role of Surface Tension in Vertical Setup:** With the bottles
>> vertically aligned, surface tension at the bottleneck significantly slowed
>> the drainage process. This resulted in a droplet-like flow and a drainage
>> time of 8 minutes and 12 seconds.
>>
>> 2. **Influence of External Forces:** By applying an external force to the
>> system—squeezing the top bottle in pulses—we managed to overcome the
>> surface tension resistance. This modified approach expedited the drainage
>> process to a time of 1 minute and 47 seconds.
>>
>> 3. **Impact of System Orientation:** We then experimented with tilting
>> the bottles to different angles. A tilt of approximately 42 degrees
>> provided the quickest drainage time—2 minutes and 32 seconds. The tilt
>> balanced the inflow of air and the outflow of water, thereby managing the
>> effects of surface tension effectively.
>>
>> 4. **Vortex Formation, Symmetry Breaking and the Principle of Least
>> Action:** In the next step, we swirled the top bottle to form a vortex,
>> leading to a broken symmetry in angular momentum. This energy-efficient
>> pathway embodied the princi

Re: [FRIAM] Swirlies redux

[Stephen Guerin]

The stories are constructed. Judged on coherence and usefulness. George Box
applies.

On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 10:54 AM Roger Critchlow  wrote:

> Or the waypoints in formulating a false confession, under the guidance of
> a police interrogator.
>
> -- rec --
>
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 10:30 AM Stephen Guerin <
> stephen.gue...@simtable.com> wrote:
>
>> More seriously, I see a series of prompts as vector compositing to give
>> context and then exploring the synthesized space created. Less about
>> information retrieval or search.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 10:16 AM Stephen Guerin 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 10:05 AM Marcus Daniels 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is something objectionable about prompts.  Like a therapist
>>>> extracting subconscious recovered memories from childhood PTSD.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I understand your concerns. Prompting, especially in therapeutic
>>> contexts, should be approached with care due to the potential risks, such
>>> as the creation of false memories or exacerbating distress. The intention
>>> behind prompts, especially in AI communication, is generally to stimulate
>>> conversation or thought, not to dig into sensitive personal areas unless
>>> explicitly directed by the user. If you have any discomfort about the
>>> direction of the conversation, please let me know, and I will adjust
>>> accordingly.
>>>
>>> - Dr C.G. Petey
>>>
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Re: [FRIAM] Swirlies redux

[Stephen Guerin]

More seriously, I see a series of prompts as vector compositing to give
context and then exploring the synthesized space created. Less about
information retrieval or search.

On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 10:16 AM Stephen Guerin 
wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 10:05 AM Marcus Daniels  wrote:
>
>> There is something objectionable about prompts.  Like a therapist
>> extracting subconscious recovered memories from childhood PTSD.
>>
>
> I understand your concerns. Prompting, especially in therapeutic contexts,
> should be approached with care due to the potential risks, such as the
> creation of false memories or exacerbating distress. The intention behind
> prompts, especially in AI communication, is generally to stimulate
> conversation or thought, not to dig into sensitive personal areas unless
> explicitly directed by the user. If you have any discomfort about the
> direction of the conversation, please let me know, and I will adjust
> accordingly.
>
> - Dr C.G. Petey
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Re: [FRIAM] Swirlies redux

[Stephen Guerin]

On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 10:05 AM Marcus Daniels  wrote:

> There is something objectionable about prompts.  Like a therapist
> extracting subconscious recovered memories from childhood PTSD.
>

I understand your concerns. Prompting, especially in therapeutic contexts,
should be approached with care due to the potential risks, such as the
creation of false memories or exacerbating distress. The intention behind
prompts, especially in AI communication, is generally to stimulate
conversation or thought, not to dig into sensitive personal areas unless
explicitly directed by the user. If you have any discomfort about the
direction of the conversation, please let me know, and I will adjust
accordingly.

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Re: [FRIAM] Swirlies redux

[Stephen Guerin]

The explicit times were part of the prompts.

we actually did these experiments this summer with Steve Cox's students at
Northern New Mexico College for an NSF Geo Pathways grant.  I put in the
times from my memory of what was in the whiteboard as 6 teams reported
their results. Some used 2 liter bottles, other smaller water bottles

On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 9:27 AM Roger Critchlow  wrote:

> Who made up the exact timings?
>
> -- rec --
>
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 9:10 AM Stephen Guerin 
> wrote:
>
>> There were 10 or so intermediate prompts to drive chatGPT to that lab
>> report.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 8:52 AM Stephen Guerin 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> chatGPT, you are a graduate student at c the Santa Fe Institute's
>>> complex systems summer school, write a lab report on your experiences with
>>> the tornado in a tube.
>>>
>>>
>>> **Student Lab Report**
>>>
>>> **Title:** Insights into Fluid Dynamics and Symmetry Breaking via
>>> 'Tornado in a Tube'
>>>
>>> **Objective:** This lab aimed to explore the critical principles of
>>> fluid dynamics, including the principle of least action, surface tension,
>>> broken symmetry, and their impacts on fluid behavior, using the 'tornado in
>>> a tube' experiment. We introduced variations in the system's orientation,
>>> structural changes, and the application of external forces to further
>>> understand these principles.
>>>
>>> **Method:** Our setup included two 2-liter clear plastic bottles, water,
>>> a tube connector, and glitter for fluid visualization. We followed the
>>> procedure outlined in the lab exercise, with additional testing for
>>> different system orientations, external force applications, and structural
>>> modifications.
>>>
>>> **Findings:**
>>>
>>> 1. **Role of Surface Tension in Vertical Setup:** With the bottles
>>> vertically aligned, surface tension at the bottleneck significantly slowed
>>> the drainage process. This resulted in a droplet-like flow and a drainage
>>> time of 8 minutes and 12 seconds.
>>>
>>> 2. **Influence of External Forces:** By applying an external force to
>>> the system—squeezing the top bottle in pulses—we managed to overcome the
>>> surface tension resistance. This modified approach expedited the drainage
>>> process to a time of 1 minute and 47 seconds.
>>>
>>> 3. **Impact of System Orientation:** We then experimented with tilting
>>> the bottles to different angles. A tilt of approximately 42 degrees
>>> provided the quickest drainage time—2 minutes and 32 seconds. The tilt
>>> balanced the inflow of air and the outflow of water, thereby managing the
>>> effects of surface tension effectively.
>>>
>>> 4. **Vortex Formation, Symmetry Breaking and the Principle of Least
>>> Action:** In the next step, we swirled the top bottle to form a vortex,
>>> leading to a broken symmetry in angular momentum. This energy-efficient
>>> pathway embodied the principle of least action, allowing the water to
>>> overcome the surface tension barrier and to drain in an impressive 18
>>> seconds. This broken symmetry enabled the efficient dissipation of the
>>> gradient between the bottles.
>>>
>>> 5. **Effects of Structural Changes:** Our final test involved an
>>> open-ended tube setup. Here, we observed noticeable changes in fluid
>>> behavior. The vortex's efficiency in gradient dissipation decreased due to
>>> interference from the ambient pressure, indicating the crucial role
>>> structural features play in fluid dynamics.
>>>
>>> **Conclusion:** The 'tornado in a tube' experiment, complemented by our
>>> additional tests, provided a comprehensive understanding of fluid dynamics
>>> principles. The observed differences in drainage times highlighted the
>>> significant impact of system orientation, the principle of least action,
>>> surface tension, and broken symmetry on fluid dynamics. These findings
>>> offer deeper insights into fluid behavior and are applicable to a range of
>>> real-world phenomena, from weather systems to biological processes.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023, 8:05 PM Nicholas Thompson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, folks. I apologize to those of you who are fed up with my kitchen
>>>> physics, but there has been a bit of a development in that saga that I want
>>>> to share with those few of you who aren’t.   Years ago, I came home
>>>> f

Re: [FRIAM] Swirlies redux

[Stephen Guerin]

There were 10 or so intermediate prompts to drive chatGPT to that lab
report.

On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 8:52 AM Stephen Guerin 
wrote:

> chatGPT, you are a graduate student at c the Santa Fe Institute's complex
> systems summer school, write a lab report on your experiences with the
> tornado in a tube.
>
>
> **Student Lab Report**
>
> **Title:** Insights into Fluid Dynamics and Symmetry Breaking via 'Tornado
> in a Tube'
>
> **Objective:** This lab aimed to explore the critical principles of fluid
> dynamics, including the principle of least action, surface tension, broken
> symmetry, and their impacts on fluid behavior, using the 'tornado in a
> tube' experiment. We introduced variations in the system's orientation,
> structural changes, and the application of external forces to further
> understand these principles.
>
> **Method:** Our setup included two 2-liter clear plastic bottles, water, a
> tube connector, and glitter for fluid visualization. We followed the
> procedure outlined in the lab exercise, with additional testing for
> different system orientations, external force applications, and structural
> modifications.
>
> **Findings:**
>
> 1. **Role of Surface Tension in Vertical Setup:** With the bottles
> vertically aligned, surface tension at the bottleneck significantly slowed
> the drainage process. This resulted in a droplet-like flow and a drainage
> time of 8 minutes and 12 seconds.
>
> 2. **Influence of External Forces:** By applying an external force to the
> system—squeezing the top bottle in pulses—we managed to overcome the
> surface tension resistance. This modified approach expedited the drainage
> process to a time of 1 minute and 47 seconds.
>
> 3. **Impact of System Orientation:** We then experimented with tilting the
> bottles to different angles. A tilt of approximately 42 degrees provided
> the quickest drainage time—2 minutes and 32 seconds. The tilt balanced the
> inflow of air and the outflow of water, thereby managing the effects of
> surface tension effectively.
>
> 4. **Vortex Formation, Symmetry Breaking and the Principle of Least
> Action:** In the next step, we swirled the top bottle to form a vortex,
> leading to a broken symmetry in angular momentum. This energy-efficient
> pathway embodied the principle of least action, allowing the water to
> overcome the surface tension barrier and to drain in an impressive 18
> seconds. This broken symmetry enabled the efficient dissipation of the
> gradient between the bottles.
>
> 5. **Effects of Structural Changes:** Our final test involved an
> open-ended tube setup. Here, we observed noticeable changes in fluid
> behavior. The vortex's efficiency in gradient dissipation decreased due to
> interference from the ambient pressure, indicating the crucial role
> structural features play in fluid dynamics.
>
> **Conclusion:** The 'tornado in a tube' experiment, complemented by our
> additional tests, provided a comprehensive understanding of fluid dynamics
> principles. The observed differences in drainage times highlighted the
> significant impact of system orientation, the principle of least action,
> surface tension, and broken symmetry on fluid dynamics. These findings
> offer deeper insights into fluid behavior and are applicable to a range of
> real-world phenomena, from weather systems to biological processes.
>
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023, 8:05 PM Nicholas Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> Ok, folks. I apologize to those of you who are fed up with my kitchen
>> physics, but there has been a bit of a development in that saga that I want
>> to share with those few of you who aren’t.   Years ago, I came home for
>> the summer with my ears ringing with the notion that structures are formed
>> to dissipate gradients.  Please set aside any teleological implications
>> of this statement and ask the question in its most neutral form:  Do the
>> structures that sometimes form as a gradient is dissipated dissipate it
>> more quickly once the structure has been formed.   Or, as I came to
>> interpret it, does facilitating the formation of such a structure speed the
>> dissipation of the gradient.
>>
>> I was the family dishwasher at the time.  I deplore washing dishes, but
>> I love messing around with warm soapy water, and so I started to experiment
>> with starting the vortex that forms *after* you pull the plug out of the
>> sink *before* I pulled the plug.  Quickly, it became apparent that
>> facilitating the vortex formation in that way GREATLY SLOWED the emptying
>> of the sink.  Triumphally, I wrote Steve on Friam only to be greeted by
>> a torrent of scatological raillery, so intense and so persistent from the
>> fluid dynamicists 

Re: [FRIAM] Swirlies redux

[Stephen Guerin]

chatGPT, you are a graduate student at c the Santa Fe Institute's complex
systems summer school, write a lab report on your experiences with the
tornado in a tube.


**Student Lab Report**

**Title:** Insights into Fluid Dynamics and Symmetry Breaking via 'Tornado
in a Tube'

**Objective:** This lab aimed to explore the critical principles of fluid
dynamics, including the principle of least action, surface tension, broken
symmetry, and their impacts on fluid behavior, using the 'tornado in a
tube' experiment. We introduced variations in the system's orientation,
structural changes, and the application of external forces to further
understand these principles.

**Method:** Our setup included two 2-liter clear plastic bottles, water, a
tube connector, and glitter for fluid visualization. We followed the
procedure outlined in the lab exercise, with additional testing for
different system orientations, external force applications, and structural
modifications.

**Findings:**

1. **Role of Surface Tension in Vertical Setup:** With the bottles
vertically aligned, surface tension at the bottleneck significantly slowed
the drainage process. This resulted in a droplet-like flow and a drainage
time of 8 minutes and 12 seconds.

2. **Influence of External Forces:** By applying an external force to the
system—squeezing the top bottle in pulses—we managed to overcome the
surface tension resistance. This modified approach expedited the drainage
process to a time of 1 minute and 47 seconds.

3. **Impact of System Orientation:** We then experimented with tilting the
bottles to different angles. A tilt of approximately 42 degrees provided
the quickest drainage time—2 minutes and 32 seconds. The tilt balanced the
inflow of air and the outflow of water, thereby managing the effects of
surface tension effectively.

4. **Vortex Formation, Symmetry Breaking and the Principle of Least
Action:** In the next step, we swirled the top bottle to form a vortex,
leading to a broken symmetry in angular momentum. This energy-efficient
pathway embodied the principle of least action, allowing the water to
overcome the surface tension barrier and to drain in an impressive 18
seconds. This broken symmetry enabled the efficient dissipation of the
gradient between the bottles.

5. **Effects of Structural Changes:** Our final test involved an open-ended
tube setup. Here, we observed noticeable changes in fluid behavior. The
vortex's efficiency in gradient dissipation decreased due to interference
from the ambient pressure, indicating the crucial role structural features
play in fluid dynamics.

**Conclusion:** The 'tornado in a tube' experiment, complemented by our
additional tests, provided a comprehensive understanding of fluid dynamics
principles. The observed differences in drainage times highlighted the
significant impact of system orientation, the principle of least action,
surface tension, and broken symmetry on fluid dynamics. These findings
offer deeper insights into fluid behavior and are applicable to a range of
real-world phenomena, from weather systems to biological processes.

On Fri, Aug 4, 2023, 8:05 PM Nicholas Thompson 
wrote:

> Ok, folks. I apologize to those of you who are fed up with my kitchen
> physics, but there has been a bit of a development in that saga that I want
> to share with those few of you who aren’t.   Years ago, I came home for
> the summer with my ears ringing with the notion that structures are formed
> to dissipate gradients.  Please set aside any teleological implications
> of this statement and ask the question in its most neutral form:  Do the
> structures that sometimes form as a gradient is dissipated dissipate it
> more quickly once the structure has been formed.   Or, as I came to
> interpret it, does facilitating the formation of such a structure speed the
> dissipation of the gradient.
>
> I was the family dishwasher at the time.  I deplore washing dishes, but I
> love messing around with warm soapy water, and so I started to experiment
> with starting the vortex that forms *after* you pull the plug out of the
> sink *before* I pulled the plug.  Quickly, it became apparent that
> facilitating the vortex formation in that way GREATLY SLOWED the emptying
> of the sink.  Triumphally, I wrote Steve on Friam only to be greeted by a
> torrent of scatological raillery, so intense and so persistent from the
> fluid dynamicists on the list that I never heard from Steve. The burden of
> this raillery I have distilled into Roberts Rule of Order:  DEFROCKED
> ENGLISH MAJORS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO TALK about fluid dynamics.
>
> More than a decade later, I am back in Massachusetts, washing dishes at
> the same sink, and the question occurred to me again. I raised it finally
> with Steve, and he generously sent me the little two-bottle toy, where you
> flip it over and the water drains from one bottle to the other.  As it
> drains, it forms a vortex in the draining bottle, and the occurrence of the
> vortex 

Re: [FRIAM] overshoot day

[Stephen Guerin]

Yesterday's microburst from Los Alamos over Otowi Smith's Hacienda with a
rainbow pointing to the 6' leprechauns yurt down canyon on the Rio Grande
:-)

https://node.redfish.com/Documents/cody/timeLapse/output/LosAlamos1/2023/214/LosAlamos1_2023_08_02_00_00.mp4

On Wed, Aug 2, 2023, 3:24 PM Steve Smith  wrote:

>
> On 8/2/23 2:55 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>
> I just noticed it was overshoot day, and just after the hottest July ever
> recorded.Yay!
>
>
> I'll be mixing up a nice ice-cold (luke warm?) cocktail of shame with just
> a splash of Cassandrafruede (reminiscent of Absinthe?) at sundown today
> (spectacular when orange-tinted from the wildfire smoke and dust blown from
> drought-denuded areas)... While I pop the ice-cubes from the tray I'll
> remember the recent factoid from someone (McKibben?) that the annual carbon
> budget of most people in the third world is roughly that of an American's
> refrigerator with an Ice-Maker or a Brit's electric Kettle for twice-daily
> tea.  If I had AC I'd turn it down to it's coldest setting to spite my
> neighbor by belching superheated air into their AC air handler intakes...
> but alas I only have adobe walls and brick floors and lots of windows to
> absorb night-time coolth...   no fun in that!   aftertaste of Cassandrafruede!>
>
> The wycked hot here in NM finally broke somewhat for us yesterday with an
> hour of rain like the "good ole days" when every afternoon had a rainstorm
> starting in July to cool off the second half of the summer.   The crew down
> in the Bosque building a pumping station to move the water pumped from the
> Colorado Basin to the Rio Grande (San Juan to Chama) is busy belching
> diesel exhaust plumes and  throwing adobe-bricklets from their tires when
> they pull out on the highway to become ad-hoc speed control bumps for the
> Los Alamos commuters usually roar by at 80 in the 55mph "safety zone"
> morning and night.
>
> All the world is a circle?  Or is it a donut?  I think maybe I'm
> channeling Terry Pratchett?
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> https://www.overshootday.org/
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Re: [FRIAM] Thursday

[Stephen Guerin]

I've started up https://bit.ly/virtualfriam and can hand off host when
someone arrives. I'll have to leave for a 10a meeting and back at 1145a to
check in.



On Tue, Jul 18, 2023, 7:08 PM Frank Wimberly  wrote:

> We're taking grandson Matthew to Colorado Springs to see the WW2 Aircraft
> Museum.  We leave tomorrow and return Friday.  That means I won't be in
> Santa Fe Thursday morning.  John Dobson, a regular attendee of vFriam, will
> be in Santa Fe that day.  We can either skip vFriam this week or Stephen
> can start it up and assign a host.
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Re: [FRIAM] What is an agent [was: Philosophy and Science}

[Stephen Guerin]

Russ,

"agent" is an overloaded word in our work. While there's overlap, I don't
think there will ever be a single definition to cover them all. I break
our use into two classes: software architecture design and discussions
around Agency (ie acting on its own or others behalf)

*Software Design and Architecture*
I use the term "agent" when in software design less about "agency" and is
more about communicating the software architecture pattern of minimal
centralized control through actors with simulated or actual concurrency.
While we are often interested in issues around agency, I think it's
important to preserve this use of "agent" in software without bringing in
 a second word like agency. Both are suitcase words
 ala Minsky.  Simulated
concurrency might have a scheduler issuing "step" or "go" events to these
"agents" but we try to minimize any global centralized coordinator of logic
and we expect coordination to emerge from the interaction of the agents (eg
flocking, ising or ant foraging model). The term agent is used to
distinguish from other approaches like object-oriented, procedural and
functional. While agents are certainly implemented with objects, procedural
and functional patterns we tend to mean the agents are semi-autonomous in
their actions. Pattie Maes in the 90s described agents as objects that can
say "no" :-) Relatedly, Uri Wilensky stresses the use of "ask" to request
the action of another agent without the ability do directly do so. This use
of "ask" was locked into the api in later versions of Netlogo.

   1. agents in agent-based modeling which in Netlogo are turtles, links
   and patches. Or in other frameworks might be lagrangian particles and
   eulerian cells and links/edges. I call these lowercase "a" agents. Often we
   focus on the interaction behaviors between many lightweight agents and less
   on internal logic. I often say ABM might be better termed Interaction Based
   Modeling. Interactions are often hybrid between turtles, links and patches.
   2. agents in multi-agent systems and distributed AI. It's a rough
   distinction but here the agents tend to be heavier on internal processes
   and less focused on the interactions. It's less a technical distinction and
   more about the communities of researchers and developers.
   3. agent-oriented programming: similar to the 1 and 2 but the agents are
   deployed sensing and acting in the world (eg Pan-Tilt-Zoom cameras on
   mountain tops watching for wildfire and coordinating with a network of
   other cameras and tracked resources). Here, we use agent-oriented
   programming to distinguish it from

*Agency / Telelogic / Teleonomic*

   1. Autonomous Agents - when speaking in this context I often say capital
   "A" agents with collaborators. Here we're in the realm of emergent Agency
   ala Stu's Autonomous Agents from 2000 Investigations. Short summary
   article  .
   Stu's autonomous agents was his stab at defining a living system.
   2. Personal Software Agents - these are related to agent-oriented
   programming above but also take on Agency as acting on your behalf. eg,
   your camera agents and location agents  that monitor your private cameras
   and GPs to coordinate with other agents share information but not the raw
   data for collective intelligence and collective action.
   3. Structure-Agency: the bidirectional feedback in sociology and social
   theory pertains to the degree to which individuals' independent actions
   (agency) are influenced or constrained by societal patterns and structures
   and how the structures are created by the Agents.
   4. Principal-Agent: in economics and contract theory where one party
   (the agent) is expected to act in the best interest of another party (the
   principal)   eg divorce lawyers or sports agents negotiating on behalf of
   their clients where they can expose private preferences to the other agent
   to find best terms under rules of nondisclosure and professional conduct
   without revealing private data to either of the clients. This can also
   relate to the Pricniple-Agent problem where there is the potential or
   incentive to act in their own self-interest instead. eg real estate
   representing the buyer but might want to maximize sales price and
   commission or a corporate executive maximizing salary or stability of
   employment vs the goals of the shareholders. obvious need here to expand to
   stakeholders (employees, customers, community) and not just shareholders.
   5. Agents as ecological emergents with relation to extremum principles
   like Principle of Stationary Action  I will often talk about the emergent
   cognition of the ant foraging system as a whole as an uppercase "A" Agent.
   As mentioned on the list before, when we look at multiple interacting
   fields with derivatives of action with concentrations in one field driving
   

Re: [FRIAM] Watch "The Most Important Idea in Physics: The Principle of Least Action - Ask a Spaceman!" on YouTube

[Stephen Guerin]

The Action is the integral of the Lagrangian along the whole path, not just
a single instant.

On Sun, Jul 2, 2023, 9:12 PM Nicholas Thompson 
wrote:

> So the difference is at a positive max when the ball hits the ground and
> at a negative maximum when the ball reaches its highest altitude?  So how
> am I to understand positive and negative?vectors?
>
> Instantaneious Action is at a minimum when the two terms are equal?
>
> I have no intuitive sense of what is going on here.
>
> But thanks for trying, Frank.
>
> N
>
>
>
> N
>
> On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 12:27 PM Nicholas Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> Frank,
>>
>> Thanks SO  MUCH for forwarding this to me.  To any other defrocked
>> english majors on Friam, who have listened to these guys blather on about
>> LaGrangians for all these years,  I highly, HIGHLY recommend the video.
>> Pretty short, AND, you might possibly, conceivably understand Steve Guerin
>> when you  get to the end.   Yeah.  Really.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: Frank Wimberly 
>> Date: Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 2:53 PM
>> Subject: Fwd: Watch "The Most Important Idea in Physics: The Principle of
>> Least Action - Ask a Spaceman!" on YouTube
>> To: Nicholas Thompson 
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
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>>
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>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: Frank Wimberly 
>> Date: Thu, Jun 29, 2023, 12:51 PM
>> Subject: Watch "The Most Important Idea in Physics: The Principle of
>> Least Action - Ask a Spaceman!" on YouTube
>> To: Thompson, Nicholas , Barry MacKichan <
>> barry.mackic...@mackichan.com>
>>
>>
>> https://youtu.be/UuqpCBZoX3M
>>
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>> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
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Re: [FRIAM] Trees as wind farms.

[Stephen Guerin]

Building on Eric's point that trees are not energy limited, I can almost
hear the trees responding to you, Nick.  "Dear boy, we ARE but the wind
incarnate. And we return to wind in a quick exhale"

consider the dual bidirectional chemical reaction of photosynthesis on left
and combustion on the right. combustion or slower respiration.

   CO2 + H2O  <=>  C6H12O6 + O2

left to right, we have low entropy ultraviolet light with carbon dioxide
and water becoming the tree (the carbohydrate/glucose) literally out of the
air and putting out oxygen. As you watch this NASA simulation of CO2 for
year (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1SgmFa0r04) trees sucking in the air
(wind) and forming themselves in the spring in the northern hemisphere.

Imagine two other visualizations of what's happening with the water vapor
and oxygen along with the CO2 visualization

In the summer, when the oxygen is now plentiful, the reaction reverses and
the trees literally become winds of CO2 and Steam (later condensing high
into water) putting out higher entropy infrared.  Note Africa spewing out
CO2 and Water with 70% of the global area burned.


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On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 7:00 PM Nicholas Thompson 
wrote:

> Thanks, Eric.  It never occured to me that plants weren't energy limited.
>
> This is what i Love about Friam.
>
> nick
>
> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 5:12 PM David Eric Smith 
> wrote:
>
>> My guess would be that plants are not energy-limited.
>>
>> At the scale of a leaf on a tree in a forest, or a fiber in a tassel on a
>> wheat-blade in a field, the delivery rate for wind energy is some tiny
>> number — I won’t try to give it here, because I will surely get it wrong —
>> in contrast to light-harvesting, which is capturing and trying to hang onto
>> little hand grenades.  (The energy in any visible photon is about 10x the
>> bond energy of the strongest C-C bonds, so just catching these things and
>> not breaking the molecule is one of biology’s major innovations.)  So it
>> may be that the complexity of using wind is large enough, and the reward
>> for the energy any given mechanism might harvest small enough, that it just
>> never takes.
>>
>> One could go into a long harangue about the various evidences that plants
>> are not energy-limited, just because they are a delightful enlightening
>> window on the biology around us, but it doesn’t really add to the main
>> point in the last paragraph (the way plants have moved everything onto
>> sugar chemistry because they are nitrogen limited, the ways C4 plants
>> concentrate carbonates because they are water-limited, or the fact that
>> green is blue in NM because they already have more light than they can use
>> at the water levels of high desert and mountains).
>>
>> Interestingly, the chemical free energy that wind delivers by evaporating
>> water and then moving it away from the leaf surface is probably larger than
>> the mechanical energy of twirling the leaf, though again I should provide
>> numbers if I want to make this guess.  Or maybe you are already right: that
>> the twirling of the leaf is an evolved property somehow using the
>> mechanical energy, and we just don’t know the literature well enough to
>> know if this observation has been developed.
>>
>> I know the above isn’t a great argument, as it is reasonable to harvest
>> big energy packages to do big jobs, and small energy packages to do smaller
>> jobs, within the same system.  But maybe (?) we would have to go outside
>> energy as a simple currency to understand what is or what is not captured?
>> I do think your example of water pumping is a compelling one, since we know
>> the problem is hard and plants need a solution, and we know from things
>> like leg-contractions to pump blood in mammals, that other organisms
>> capture mechanical energy sometimes when it is available.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 28, 2023, at 5:53 AM,  <
>> thompnicks...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks Glen,
>> > I have no problem with agency in plants if you have no problem with
>> agency in humans.  Plants even have intentionality, meaning that a world
>> can be described relevant to a plant's needs, an umwelt, if you will.  I
>> like Barry's idea that trees are bad collectors energy, but why? Poplar
>> leaves twirl in the wind; at the nano-scopic level, there are all sorts of
>> rotors and turbines.  The poplar doesn't have to collect energy if it can
>> focus it locally, say on bud growth at the bud

Re: [FRIAM] The Three Toed Sloth meets the Shoggoth

[Stephen Guerin]

Thanks, Roger.

I put a copy of Shalizi and Farrell's paper for discussion here:
   https://redfish.com/papers/temp20230624/shaliziFarrell_AI_Economist.pdf

(As this is a not a public email list, I think it's fair use to post a link
to the article for discussion. I will delete the file tomorrow so the
public archive will have a dead link)

Also, here's a link to Weitzman's Hyperplane Theory referenced in the
article.
https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/weitzman/files/economicsproofseparating.pdf

In some ways Bill Macready and Mohammed El-Beltagy (cc'd) were trying to
build a version of Weitzman's Hyperplane for economic allocation with
BiosGroup's Prowess Software 20 years ago extending price only auctions to
the hyperplanes of price, time, quality and other multidimensional metrics.

Mohammed and I have been talking off list these last couple months of the
same points as the article that modern corporations and governments were
some fo the first AIs that we're struggling to understand proper governance
and how the challenge of what AI governance may look like.

-Stephen

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On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 2:55 PM Roger Critchlow  wrote:

> I was trawling through my saved bookmarks looking for insights into
> Prigozhin's mutiny, when I stumbled to http://bactra.org/weblog/ and
> found that Henry Farrell and Cosma Shalizi have just published an essay in
> The Economist,
> https://www.economist.com/by-invitation/2023/06/21/artificial-intelligence-is-a-familiar-looking-monster-say-henry-farrell-and-cosma-shalizi,
> paywalled of course, but there is a twitter listicle version at
> https://twitter.com/henryfarrell/status/1671547591262191618
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Re: [FRIAM] Google Bard

[Stephen Guerin]

gpt4 prompt: "Design a WordPress site for a birding non profit in Ecuador
that accepts uploads of member photos and maps them by location based on
the exif location. Give the member the option to share location publicly,
with a group, or just for themselves"

-

Creating a WordPress site for a birding non-profit in Ecuador that accepts
uploads of member photos and maps with location based on the EXIF data
would require a combination of theme selection, custom development, and
plugin utilization. Here's a step-by-step process of how it could be done:

**1. Choose a Suitable Theme:**

Start with a theme that is suitable for non-profit organizations and has an
emphasis on visual content. It should have galleries, sliders, and maps
built-in or easily integrated. A theme like "Charity Hub," "Neve," or "Eco
Nature" could work well.

**2. Set Up Basic Pages:**

Include basic pages such as Home, About, Membership Information, Photo
Gallery, Bird Species, Contact Us, etc. You could use a page builder like
Elementor or Beaver Builder to design these pages with ease.

**3. Enable User Registration and Profiles:**

Use a plugin like "BuddyPress" to enable user registrations and to create
user profiles. You'll need members to have accounts to upload their photos.

**4. Enable Photo Uploads:**

To accept uploads of member photos, you can use a plugin such as "User
Submitted Posts" or "Frontend Upload." You might need a developer to help
with customization if you want to extract EXIF data automatically.

**5. EXIF Data and Location:**

Plugins like "EXIF Data Viewer" or "WP VR View" can be used to extract EXIF
data from the uploaded images, which typically includes GPS coordinates for
the location where the photo was taken. You could use a service like Google
Maps API to translate these coordinates into an actual location.

**6. Sharing Permissions:**

For the sharing options, you would need some custom development to allow
members to control who sees their location. This would involve adding
options in the upload form to set the visibility to public, private, or
group, and then applying those permissions to the display of the location
data.

**7. Integration of Maps:**

You can use plugins like "Interactive Geo Maps" or "WP Google Maps" to
display interactive maps on the site. Locations of uploaded photos could be
indicated on the map, depending on the permissions set by the user.

**8. Implement a Blog:**

A blog section could be helpful for sharing news, updates, and educational
information. WordPress's native blogging functionality can handle this
easily.

**9. SEO & Analytics:**

Don't forget to incorporate SEO best practices to help your site get found.
A plugin like "Yoast SEO" can be very helpful. Similarly, integrate Google
Analytics for tracking site usage.

**10. Set up a Donation System:**

As a non-profit, you might want to consider setting up a donation system.
Plugins like "GiveWP" are designed specifically for this.

Finally, make sure the website is mobile responsive since many users will
likely be accessing the site from their mobile devices. This should be a
feature of any modern WordPress theme, but always check to make sure.

Please note that while WordPress and its ecosystem of plugins provide a lot
of flexibility and power, you'll need someone with technical expertise to
help with the setup, especially around the custom development for the photo
upload, EXIF data extraction, and permissions control.


On Sun, May 21, 2023, 12:21 PM Gary Schiltz 
wrote:

> Answering my own question, I signed up and was able to ask ChatGPT. It
> gave a better answer from the start.
>
> If you have a WordPress site with no pages or posts, the default
> behavior of WordPress depends on the theme you have installed.
> However, in most cases, the following elements are typically displayed
> when you visit the site:
>
> Header: The header section of your website, which usually includes the
> site title or logo and the main navigation menu.
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Perhaps of Interest to the (other) old timers here!

[Stephen Guerin]

Thanks, Owen. didn't know about JaM, another beautiful rabbit hole in
computing history :-)

JaM, the "John and Martin" page description language appears to come after
John's Warnock's work at Evans and Sutherland on the ""The Evans and
Sutherland Design System" for producing 3-dimensional graphical databases
both for the Evans & Sutherland CAD/CAM Picture System and for custom-built
simulation machines. At Xerox he teamed up with Martin Newell of Utah
Teapot fame. all from:
https://www.historyofinformation.com/detail.php?id=970

also interesting bit at end:
"While it is difficult to separate the contributions made by Sproull and
Lampson, it is not incorrect to say that Lampson and Warnock produced the
execution model of InterpressOffsite Link while Sproull and Warnock
produced the imaging model. It is also approximately correct to
characterize this first version of Interpress as being derived from the
graphics model and execution model of JAM with additional protection and
security mechanisms derived from experience with programming languages like
Euclid and Cedar, and a careful silence on the issue of fonts. The trio
worked under Geschke's direction, and Geschke was responsible for
refereeing disagreements and for making certain that the resulting design
was acceptable to the rest of Xerox"

again, I think there is something repeating itself as we're making digital
twins of the world with geosimulation and GIS drawing tools and searching
for standards to describe dynamic scenes   (not just a page)  in a platform
agnostic way. Hence our 3D tiles, glTF and Universal Scene Description
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Scene_Description>, CZML, geoevent
servers,  but also wanting the realtime animated. note the relationship to
reatlime pose information in "Full Motion Video
<https://docs.ogc.org/per/20-036.html.>" MISB (motion industry standards
board) Also the standards around geospatial optical features in the world
(eg OpenAR Cloud <https://www.openarcloud.org/>)


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On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 11:40 AM Owen Densmore  wrote:

> On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 10:48 AM Stephen Guerin <
> stephen.gue...@simtable.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Steve! I enjoy these slices of history and peeking into the
>> discussions of the time on fundamental issues.
>>
>> Owen, were you involved with the Interscript project mentioned near the
>> end of the story? Interscript being the scripting of dynamic Interpress
>> documents which later spun out to Postscript.
>>
>> https://bitsavers.org/pdf/xerox/interscript/IntroductionToInterscript.pdf
>>
>> As mentioned in story, the vision they had still hasn't been delivered.
>> Maybe JavaScript for the DOM or perhaps agentscript.org? :-)
>>
>>  “History never repeats itself, but it does often rhyme.”
>>
>
> Actually, IIRC, JAM, a dev command language, was the precursor of PS.  I
> think that's the right name. It could also manage the key pad, a small
> device with I think 5 keys. And they were often chorded (multiple fingers
> as well as just one). JAM could use this as well as the keyboard. Seriously
> hip devs (Chuck and John among them). Why? They could have more memory for
> code!
>
> But the true birth of PS was the paper Chuck and John for siggraph
> outlining an abstraction so to speak of PS, possibly a JAM api. The day
> after the conference they left Xerox because now the PS architecture was
> published, thus unprotected .. er open sourced!
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Perhaps of Interest to the (other) old timers here!

[Stephen Guerin]

Thanks, Steve! I enjoy these slices of history and peeking into the
discussions of the time on fundamental issues.

Owen, were you involved with the Interscript project mentioned near the end
of the story? Interscript being the scripting of dynamic Interpress
documents which later spun out to Postscript.

https://bitsavers.org/pdf/xerox/interscript/IntroductionToInterscript.pdf

As mentioned in story, the vision they had still hasn't been delivered.
Maybe JavaScript for the DOM or perhaps agentscript.org? :-)

 “History never repeats itself, but it does often rhyme.”


On Tue, May 16, 2023, 9:52 AM Steve Smith  wrote:

> https://medium.com/chmcore/a-backup-of-historical-proportions-93f5f502f608
>
> Interesting article on recovery of a huge cache of Xerox PARC archives
> which also references more than a little bit of both DEC and Adobe history.
>
> As I watch the live questioning of Altman on AI in Congress...
> "interesting times, all of them?"
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Re: [FRIAM] how did I miss this?

[Stephen Guerin]

sanine's music video diss on men sending her theories of everything is
great.

https://youtu.be/5gmtAeqRs14

I am glad I didn't send her mine before seeing it :-)



On Sat, May 13, 2023, 6:17 PM Marcus Daniels  wrote:

> She does music videos!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUE9E1MxY2I
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Re: [FRIAM] links for this morning's FRIAM: Special Unitary Groups and Quaternions

[Stephen Guerin]

I think that's the same as when I said "I knew how to solve n-body systems
with particle N^2/2 forces (corrected) with some quadtree or octree
optimizations to get from n^2 to nlog(n)." . Or are you saying something
different?


On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 2:58 PM Angel Edward  wrote:

> Here’s another connection I had forgotten. Consider particles on a 2D
> rectangle  with 1/r^2 repulsion. If you break up the rectangle into smaller
> rectangles in which particles can only stay in their own rectangles or move
> to neighbor rectangles, the N^2 force calculation comes down to N log N,
> same as the limit on good sorting algorithms. This technique came up when
> we were using particles to form an isosurface in 3D.
>
> Ed
> __
>
> Ed Angel
>
> Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS
> Lab)
> Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico
>
> 1017 Sierra Pinon
> Santa Fe, NM 87501
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>
> On May 5, 2023, at 2:31 PM, Stephen Guerin 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Roger and Ed!
>
> I've spent some time with Ed and Frank discussing this and I've really
> filled in some gaps in my knowledge of parallel algorithms. eg, I knew how
> to solve n-body system with particle N^2/2 focus with some quadtree or
> octree optimizations to get from n^2 to nlog(n). But the FFT transform on
> laplacians solving Poisson equation was new to me and I can now see the
> beauty. Today, Ed quickly threw out the Kronecker Operator/Product which
> Frank knew but I didn't. Frank flashed me a wikipedia article
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronecker_product> on his phone with
> symbolics that I couldn't immediately grok. But asking chatGPT to explain
> the operator to a 3D graphics person I immediately got it and had the
> benefit that I would usually implement this function with two inner loops
> over rows and columnts instead of using Kronecker available in optimized
> linear algebra/graphics libraries. Often this was happening under the hood
> of my tools but didn't realize it.
>
> As a 3D graphics developer, understanding the Kronecker matrix can be very
> useful. The Kronecker product is often used in computer graphics and
> computer vision applications, such as texture mapping, geometric
> transformations, and image processing. Here are a few specific ways in
> which Kronecker matrix can be useful to a 3D graphics developer:
>
>1. Texture mapping: The Kronecker product can be used to create
>repetitive patterns in textures, such as brick walls, tiles, or grass. By
>creating a base texture and applying a Kronecker product with a smaller
>texture, a developer can create a seamless and repeating texture that
>covers a larger surface.
>2. Geometric transformations: The Kronecker product can be used to
>perform geometric transformations, such as scaling, rotation, and
>translation, on 3D objects. By creating a Kronecker matrix with a
>transformation matrix, a developer can apply the transformation to every
>vertex of an object, resulting in a transformed object.
>3. Image processing: The Kronecker product can be used to perform
>image processing operations, such as blurring, sharpening, or edge
>detection, on 3D images. By creating a Kronecker matrix with a filter
>matrix, a developer can apply the filter to every pixel of an image,
>resulting in a processed image.
>
> In summary, the Kronecker matrix is a powerful tool that can be used in
> various ways by 3D graphics developers. Whether it's creating textures,
> transforming objects, or processing images, understanding the Kronecker
> matrix can help a developer achieve their desired results more efficiently
> and effectively.
>
>
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>
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 7:50 PM Angel Edward 
> wrote:
>
>> Most of my dissertation (1968) was on numerical solution of potential
>> problems. One of the parts was a proof that some of the known iterative
>> methods converged. The argument loosely went something like this. Consider
>> the 2D Poisson equation on a square. If you use an N x N approximation with
>> the usual discretization of the Laplacian
>>
>> u_ij = (u_i(j-1) + u_i(j+1) + u_(i_1)j + i_(j+1))/4
>>
>> i.e, the average of the surrounding points, the problem reduces to the
>> solution of a set of N^2 linear equations
>>

[FRIAM] A poem: On Kronecker's Loom was: (Fwd: links for this morning's FRIAM: Special Unitary Groups and Quaternions)

[Stephen Guerin]

In celebration of my new found understanding of the Kronecker operator
and FFTs with Laplacians, I asked GPT's help to pen some verse as a bard
might for a court :-)

For context, a couple weeks ago, Frank gave me a ride to Friam with my
volvo in the shop. this week I returned his coffee mug he left Here comes
the metaphor, consider our iterated events of pairwise actions in
friendship as a cyclic block matrix and our interactions with you adding
the diagonal and the full tapestry/matrix of our community the Kronecker
tiling ;-) Here's the result

On Kronecker's Loom: Tapestry

Weeks ago, Stephen's Volvo under repair,
Frank's BMW arrived, a a lift to share,
horizontal row as thread in friendship,
Begins the weave tales of minds entwined

Todays mug with logo returned, a vertical thread, a column sewn,
With knowledge and random chatter they create,
The tapestry of ideas, together grown,
In loom of thought, friendships elevate.

Ed joins the Diagonal, the knowledge grows,
With Frank, a formal language bond they know,
Symbolic language, to Stephen once opaque,
Now grasped, the power of the operator in hand.

In past, with clumsy nested loops, Stephen worked,
Yet, newfound insight in linear algebra gained,
C = np.kron(A, B) the operator, unshirked,
Through friendships forged, knowledge unrestrained.

Ideas exchanged, insights embraced,
Connections formed, in wisdom traced,
A realm of learning, friendships laced,
Block matrices, the foundation laid.

In Kronecker's touch, a pattern forms,
Integrating all the pairwise friendships made,
Their union, a dance that transforms,
The tapestry of knowledge, unswayed.




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-- Forwarded message -
From: Stephen Guerin 
Date: Fri, May 5, 2023 at 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] links for this morning's FRIAM: Special Unitary Groups
and Quaternions
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 


Thanks Roger and Ed!

I've spent some time with Ed and Frank discussing this and I've really
filled in some gaps in my knowledge of parallel algorithms. eg, I knew how
to solve n-body system with particle N^2/2 focus with some quadtree or
octree optimizations to get from n^2 to nlog(n). But the FFT transform on
laplacians solving Poisson equation was new to me and I can now see the
beauty. Today, Ed quickly threw out the Kronecker Operator/Product which
Frank knew but I didn't. Frank flashed me a wikipedia article
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronecker_product> on his phone with
symbolics that I couldn't immediately grok. But asking chatGPT to explain
the operator to a 3D graphics person I immediately got it and had the
benefit that I would usually implement this function with two inner loops
over rows and columnts instead of using Kronecker available in optimized
linear algebra/graphics libraries. Often this was happening under the hood
of my tools but didn't realize it.

As a 3D graphics developer, understanding the Kronecker matrix can be very
useful. The Kronecker product is often used in computer graphics and
computer vision applications, such as texture mapping, geometric
transformations, and image processing. Here are a few specific ways in
which Kronecker matrix can be useful to a 3D graphics developer:

   1. Texture mapping: The Kronecker product can be used to create
   repetitive patterns in textures, such as brick walls, tiles, or grass. By
   creating a base texture and applying a Kronecker product with a smaller
   texture, a developer can create a seamless and repeating texture that
   covers a larger surface.
   2. Geometric transformations: The Kronecker product can be used to
   perform geometric transformations, such as scaling, rotation, and
   translation, on 3D objects. By creating a Kronecker matrix with a
   transformation matrix, a developer can apply the transformation to every
   vertex of an object, resulting in a transformed object.
   3. Image processing: The Kronecker product can be used to perform image
   processing operations, such as blurring, sharpening, or edge detection, on
   3D images. By creating a Kronecker matrix with a filter matrix, a developer
   can apply the filter to every pixel of an image, resulting in a processed
   image.

In summary, the Kronecker matrix is a powerful tool that can be used in
various ways by 3D graphics developers. Whether it's creating textures,
transforming objects, or processing images, understanding the Kronecker
matrix can help a developer achieve their desired results more efficiently
and effectively.



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Re: [FRIAM] links for this morning's FRIAM: Special Unitary Groups and Quaternions

[Stephen Guerin]

Thanks Roger and Ed!

I've spent some time with Ed and Frank discussing this and I've really
filled in some gaps in my knowledge of parallel algorithms. eg, I knew how
to solve n-body system with particle N^2/2 focus with some quadtree or
octree optimizations to get from n^2 to nlog(n). But the FFT transform on
laplacians solving Poisson equation was new to me and I can now see the
beauty. Today, Ed quickly threw out the Kronecker Operator/Product which
Frank knew but I didn't. Frank flashed me a wikipedia article
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronecker_product> on his phone with
symbolics that I couldn't immediately grok. But asking chatGPT to explain
the operator to a 3D graphics person I immediately got it and had the
benefit that I would usually implement this function with two inner loops
over rows and columnts instead of using Kronecker available in optimized
linear algebra/graphics libraries. Often this was happening under the hood
of my tools but didn't realize it.

As a 3D graphics developer, understanding the Kronecker matrix can be very
useful. The Kronecker product is often used in computer graphics and
computer vision applications, such as texture mapping, geometric
transformations, and image processing. Here are a few specific ways in
which Kronecker matrix can be useful to a 3D graphics developer:

   1. Texture mapping: The Kronecker product can be used to create
   repetitive patterns in textures, such as brick walls, tiles, or grass. By
   creating a base texture and applying a Kronecker product with a smaller
   texture, a developer can create a seamless and repeating texture that
   covers a larger surface.
   2. Geometric transformations: The Kronecker product can be used to
   perform geometric transformations, such as scaling, rotation, and
   translation, on 3D objects. By creating a Kronecker matrix with a
   transformation matrix, a developer can apply the transformation to every
   vertex of an object, resulting in a transformed object.
   3. Image processing: The Kronecker product can be used to perform image
   processing operations, such as blurring, sharpening, or edge detection, on
   3D images. By creating a Kronecker matrix with a filter matrix, a developer
   can apply the filter to every pixel of an image, resulting in a processed
   image.

In summary, the Kronecker matrix is a powerful tool that can be used in
various ways by 3D graphics developers. Whether it's creating textures,
transforming objects, or processing images, understanding the Kronecker
matrix can help a developer achieve their desired results more efficiently
and effectively.



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On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 7:50 PM Angel Edward  wrote:

> Most of my dissertation (1968) was on numerical solution of potential
> problems. One of the parts was a proof that some of the known iterative
> methods converged. The argument loosely went something like this. Consider
> the 2D Poisson equation on a square. If you use an N x N approximation with
> the usual discretization of the Laplacian
>
> u_ij = (u_i(j-1) + u_i(j+1) + u_(i_1)j + i_(j+1))/4
>
> i.e, the average of the surrounding points, the problem reduces to the
> solution of a set of N^2 linear equations
>
> Ax = b
>
> where x in a vector of the unknown {u_ij} arranged by rows or columns, b
> is determined by the boundary conditions and the right side of the Poisson
> equation. The interesting part is A which is block tridiagonal. With only a
> small error A can be made block cyclic. You can then diagonalize A with a
> sine transform and I was able to use that for proofs.
>
> A few years later when the FFT came about, we realized that we could use
> the FFT to do the sine transform and the resulting numerical method was as
> least as efficient as any other method people had come up with.
>
> Ed
>
> Here’s a reference from 1986 that I think was based on paper at a Bellman
> Continuum
>
> ``From Dynamic Programming to Fast Transforms,'' E. Angel, J. Math. Anal.
> Appl.,119,1986.
>
> Ed
> __
>
> Ed Angel
>
> Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS
> Lab)
> Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico
>
> 1017 Sierra Pinon
> Santa Fe, NM 87501
> 505-984-0136 (home)   edward.an...@gmail.com
> 505-453-4944 (cell)  http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel
>
> On Apr 28, 2023, at 8:18 AM, Stephen Guerin 
> wrote:
>
> Special Unitary Groups and Quaternions
>
> Mostly for Ed from the context of last week's Physical Friam if you're
> coming today.
>
> Discussion was around potential ways of visualizing the dynamic

[FRIAM] links for this morning's FRIAM: Special Unitary Groups and Quaternions

[Stephen Guerin]

Special Unitary Groups and Quaternions

Mostly for Ed from the context of last week's Physical Friam if you're
coming today.

Discussion was around potential ways of visualizing the dynamics of SU(3),
SU(2), (SU1) that highlights Special Unitary Groups. (wiki link from Frank
), and can we
foreground how quaternions are used in this process.

and a related bit on forces, I'm searching for ways to visualize/understand
how FFTs with Poisson equation
 are
used to compute the forces from scalar fields (eg gravitational force from
mass density, electric force from charge, etc) and if there's any relation
to Special Unitary Groups.

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Re: [FRIAM] AI possibilities

[Stephen Guerin]

Good, now make a short poem in style of Emerson on those themes of love,
passion and urgency using the same objects

ChatGPT4:

In the garden of life's grand design, Where fire engines race and
intertwine, With urgency, they rush to quell the flame, Passion's
intensity, their purpose to tame.

Among the emerald leaves, a symbol of love, A crimson apple, a gift from
above, In life's sweet orchard, temptation awaits, The taste of passion,
our destiny dictates.

A rose, a beacon of fervor and desire, Its scarlet petals, like a burning
fire, Delicate, yet fierce, it captures our soul, Whispering the secrets of
love's tender role.

In this tapestry of fate, these colors align, The fire engine, the apple,
and the rose entwine, Embodying love, passion, and urgency's call, The ebb
and flow of life, connecting us all.




On Fri, Apr 7, 2023, 10:48 AM Stephen Guerin 
wrote:

> As I wrote the prompt, I was wondering how it might deal with the
> ambiquity of color for these objects.
>
> Prompt: What might a fire engine, an apple and a rose have in common
>
> ChatGPT4:
> A fire engine, an apple, and a rose might not appear to have much in
> common at first glance, as they belong to different categories—vehicles,
> fruits, and flowers, respectively. However, one possible commonality among
> them is their color: red. Fire engines are typically red, apples can be red
> (among other colors), and roses can also be red. The color red is often
> associated with strong emotions such as love, passion, and urgency, which
> may be another connection among these seemingly unrelated object
>
> On Fri, Apr 7, 2023, 10:15 AM Steve Smith  wrote:
>
>> I tripped over (in my Gnewsfeed) an article that seemed to speak more
>> clearly
>> <https://www.marktechpost.com/2023/04/06/8-potentially-surprising-things-to-know-about-large-language-models-llms/>
>> to some of my maunderings:
>>
>> 8 Potentially Surprising Things To Know About Large Language Models LLMs
>> <https://www.marktechpost.com/2023/04/06/8-potentially-surprising-things-to-know-about-large-language-models-llms/>
>>
>> And the paper it summarizes (with a similar title, more detail and
>> references):
>>
>>  8 Things to know about Large Language Models - Samuel R Bowman
>> <https://arxiv.org/pdf/2304.00612.pdf>
>>
>> And in particular this point made:
>>
>>
>>1. *LLMs frequently acquire and employ external-world
>>representations.*
>>
>>  More and more evidence suggests that LLMs build internal representations
>> of the world, allowing them to reason at an abstract level insensitive to
>> the specific language form of the text. The evidence for this phenomenon is
>> strongest in the largest and most recent models, so it should be
>> anticipated that it will grow more robust when systems are scaled up more.
>> Nevertheless, current LLMs need to do this more effectively and effectively.
>>
>> The following findings, based on a wide variety of experimental
>> techniques and theoretical models, support this assertion.
>>
>>- The internal color representations of models are highly consistent
>>with empirical findings on how humans perceive color.
>>- Models can conclude the author’s knowledge and beliefs to foretell
>>the document’s future course.
>>- Stories are used to inform models, which then change their internal
>>representations of the features and locations of the objects represented 
>> in
>>the stories.
>>- Sometimes, models can provide information on how to depict strange
>>things on paper.
>>- Many commonsense reasoning tests are passed by models, even ones
>>like the Winograd Schema Challenge, that are made to have no textual hints
>>to the answer.
>>
>> These findings counter the conventional wisdom that LLMs are merely
>> statistical next-word predictors and can’t generalize their learning or
>> reasoning beyond text.
>>
>> On 4/6/23 8:27 AM, Steve Smith wrote:
>>
>> I have been reading Jeff Hawkins' _1000 Brains_ which is roughly *his*
>> take on AI from the perspective of the Neuroscience *he* has been doing for
>> a few decades, including building models of the neocortex.
>>
>> What struck me strongly was how much *I* expect anything I'd want to call
>> artificial *consciousness* to engage in "co-munnication" in the strongest
>> sense.  Glen regularly admonishes us that "communication" may be an
>> illusion and something we don't actually *do* or maybe more to the the
>> point "it doesn't mean what we think it means"?
>>
>> So for all the parlor

Re: [FRIAM] AI possibilities

[Stephen Guerin]

As I wrote the prompt, I was wondering how it might deal with the ambiquity
of color for these objects.

Prompt: What might a fire engine, an apple and a rose have in common

ChatGPT4:
A fire engine, an apple, and a rose might not appear to have much in common
at first glance, as they belong to different categories—vehicles, fruits,
and flowers, respectively. However, one possible commonality among them is
their color: red. Fire engines are typically red, apples can be red (among
other colors), and roses can also be red. The color red is often associated
with strong emotions such as love, passion, and urgency, which may be
another connection among these seemingly unrelated object

On Fri, Apr 7, 2023, 10:15 AM Steve Smith  wrote:

> I tripped over (in my Gnewsfeed) an article that seemed to speak more
> clearly
> 
> to some of my maunderings:
>
> 8 Potentially Surprising Things To Know About Large Language Models LLMs
> 
>
> And the paper it summarizes (with a similar title, more detail and
> references):
>
>  8 Things to know about Large Language Models - Samuel R Bowman
> 
>
> And in particular this point made:
>
>
>1. *LLMs frequently acquire and employ external-world representations.*
>
>  More and more evidence suggests that LLMs build internal representations
> of the world, allowing them to reason at an abstract level insensitive to
> the specific language form of the text. The evidence for this phenomenon is
> strongest in the largest and most recent models, so it should be
> anticipated that it will grow more robust when systems are scaled up more.
> Nevertheless, current LLMs need to do this more effectively and effectively.
>
> The following findings, based on a wide variety of experimental techniques
> and theoretical models, support this assertion.
>
>- The internal color representations of models are highly consistent
>with empirical findings on how humans perceive color.
>- Models can conclude the author’s knowledge and beliefs to foretell
>the document’s future course.
>- Stories are used to inform models, which then change their internal
>representations of the features and locations of the objects represented in
>the stories.
>- Sometimes, models can provide information on how to depict strange
>things on paper.
>- Many commonsense reasoning tests are passed by models, even ones
>like the Winograd Schema Challenge, that are made to have no textual hints
>to the answer.
>
> These findings counter the conventional wisdom that LLMs are merely
> statistical next-word predictors and can’t generalize their learning or
> reasoning beyond text.
>
> On 4/6/23 8:27 AM, Steve Smith wrote:
>
> I have been reading Jeff Hawkins' _1000 Brains_ which is roughly *his*
> take on AI from the perspective of the Neuroscience *he* has been doing for
> a few decades, including building models of the neocortex.
>
> What struck me strongly was how much *I* expect anything I'd want to call
> artificial *consciousness* to engage in "co-munnication" in the strongest
> sense.  Glen regularly admonishes us that "communication" may be an
> illusion and something we don't actually *do* or maybe more to the the
> point "it doesn't mean what we think it means"?
>
> So for all the parlor tricks I've enjoyed playing with chatGPT and DALL-E
> and maybe even more spectacularly the myriad examples *others* have teased
> out of those systems, I am always looking for what sort of "internal state"
> these systems are exposing to me in their "utterances".   And by extension,
> I am looking to see if it is in any way apprehending *me* through my
> questions and prompts.
>
> Dialog with chatGPT feels pretty familiar to me, as if I'm conversing with
> an unusually polite and cooperative polymath.   It is freeing to feel I can
> ask "it" any question which I can formulate and can expect back a pretty
> *straight* answer if not always one I was hoping for.  "It" seems pretty
> insightful and usually picks up on the nuances of my questions.   As often
> as not, I need to follow up with refined questions which channel the
> answers away from the "mundane or obvious" but when I do, it rarely misses
> a trick or is evasive or harps on something from it's own (apparent)
> agenda.  It only does that when I ask it questions about it's own nature,
> formulation, domain and then it just seems blunted as if it has a lawyer or
> politician intercepting some of those questions and answering them for it.
>
> I have learned to "frame" my questions by first asking it to defer it's
> response until I've given it some ... "framing" for the actual question.
> Otherwise I go through the other series of steps where I have to re-ask the
> 

Re: [FRIAM] AI possibilities

[Stephen Guerin]

Steve, here's what I would query you wrt  this thread on communication. I
hit the polite poly first:

Summarize two science fiction works that explore the theme of faceted
ontologies that create boundary spanning objects that allow communication
between wildly different life forms



   1.

   "Embassytown" by China Miéville: This science fiction novel delves into
   the nature of language, communication, and the relationship between
   different life forms. The story takes place in Embassytown, a city on the
   edge of the known universe inhabited by both humans and the enigmatic,
   insect-like Ariekei. The Ariekei language is unique in that it requires two
   voices to be spoken simultaneously, and they are only able to comprehend
   language that has an authentic, conscious intent behind it. To facilitate
   communication between humans and the Ariekei, genetically engineered humans
   called Ambassadors are created, who can speak the Ariekei language. The
   novel explores the complex ontological and linguistic challenges of
   communication between these vastly different life forms and how their
   interactions shape their understanding of each other's worlds.
   2.

   "Solaris" by Stanisław Lem: In this classic science fiction novel, a
   team of human scientists studies an alien planet called Solaris, which is
   covered by a vast, sentient ocean. This ocean is capable of creating
   physical manifestations, called "visitors," based on the thoughts and
   memories of the human researchers. The researchers grapple with the
   challenge of understanding and communicating with this fundamentally
   different life form, which operates on a completely different ontological
   level. The novel delves into the limitations of human understanding and the
   nature of communication between species with vastly different cognitive
   frameworks.

Both of these science fiction works explore the concept of faceted
ontologies in the sense that they address the challenges of communication
between life forms that operate on entirely different cognitive and
ontological levels. The novels offer unique perspectives on the notion of
creating bridging mechanisms or spanning objects that facilitate
communication and understanding between these disparate life forms.

And a follow up exploring the duality of the two systems of cognition:



   1.

   "Story of Your Life" by Ted Chiang: This science fiction novella, which
   was the basis for the movie "Arrival," explores the theme of communication
   between humans and an alien species known as the Heptapods. The story
   follows linguist Dr. Louise Banks, who is tasked with understanding and
   communicating with the Heptapods. The boundary spanning object in this case
   is the Heptapod language, specifically their written language called
   Heptapod B, which is expressed in intricate, circular symbols. Heptapod B
   represents a fundamentally different system of cognition, as it embodies a
   non-linear and simultaneous understanding of time. As Dr. Banks learns
   Heptapod B, she begins to perceive time in the same way the Heptapods do,
   changing her understanding of her own life and human cognition. The novella
   demonstrates the duality between the systems of cognition by showing how
   the Heptapod language provides a bridge between human linear perception of
   time and the Heptapods' non-linear perception.
   2.

   "The Sparrow" by Mary Doria Russell: This novel follows a Jesuit priest
   named Emilio Sandoz and a group of explorers who travel to the planet
   Rakhat to make contact with two different alien species, the Runa and the
   Jana'ata. The boundary spanning object in this story is music, which serves
   as a means of communication and connection between the humans and the alien
   species. As the characters learn the different musical systems and
   vocalizations of the Runa and the Jana'ata, they begin to understand the
   social, cultural, and cognitive structures of the alien societies. Music,
   in this case, represents the duality between the systems of cognition by
   highlighting the similarities and differences between human culture and the
   complex, intertwined societies of the Runa and the Jana'ata. Through the
   exploration of music as a universal language, the novel delves into the
   challenges of communication and understanding between species with
   disparate cognitive systems.

In both of these science fiction works, the boundary spanning objects
(Heptapod B language in "Story of Your Life" and music in "The Sparrow")
serve as tools for facilitating communication between different conscious
life forms, highlighting the duality between their systems of cognition and
illustrating how understanding can be reached despite their differences.



On Thu, Apr 6, 2023, 8:27 AM Steve Smith  wrote:

> I have been reading Jeff Hawkins' _1000 Brains_ which is roughly *his*
> take on AI from the perspective of the Neuroscience *he* has been 

Re: [FRIAM] AI Musings

[Stephen Guerin]

On Sat, Apr 1, 2023 at 1:52 PM cody dooderson  wrote:

> The chat GPT demo does not have up to date information, which would
> seriously hamper it's abilities to be a good CEO. I asked it about recent
> tornados in the Midwest and it replied that it doesn't have any training
> data after September 2021.  Surely a model can be made too stay up to date
> with current events.
>

I was talking more generally about AI than chatGPT. BTW, Note openAI's API
let's us train on anything:
   https://platform.openai.com/overview
   https://platform.openai.com/docs/introduction
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Re: [FRIAM] AI Musings

[Stephen Guerin]

And follow up prompt GPT:

Stephen: good. Imagine business conditions or models where an AI could
serve as a ceo

chatGPT: While it might be challenging for an AI to completely replace a
human CEO, there are certain business conditions or models where an AI
could potentially serve as an effective CEO or at least take on some
CEO-like responsibilities. Here are a few examples:

Algorithmic trading and investment firms: In companies that rely heavily on
data-driven decision-making and quantitative analysis, an AI could manage
portfolios, make investment decisions, and optimize trading strategies
based on real-time market data and historical trends.

AI-driven startups: In a company that focuses on creating AI solutions, an
AI CEO could help guide product development, manage resources, and make
strategic decisions based on a deep understanding of the technology and
market trends.

Supply chain and logistics management: AI could oversee and optimize
complex supply chains, making decisions about inventory management,
distribution, and transportation based on data analysis and predictive
modeling.

Highly automated industries: In sectors where most processes are automated,
such as manufacturing or warehousing, an AI CEO could monitor and manage
production, identify areas for improvement, and allocate resources
efficiently.

Digital content platforms: AI could be responsible for managing online
platforms that rely on algorithms to curate and distribute content, such as
streaming services, social media, or e-commerce sites. It could make
decisions about content recommendation, advertising, and user engagement
based on data analysis.

Research and development: In organizations focused on research and
development, an AI CEO could guide the direction of research projects,
allocate resources, and make data-driven decisions about potential
breakthroughs and innovations.

However, it is important to note that an AI CEO would still face
significant limitations, particularly in areas that require emotional
intelligence, empathy, and nuanced understanding of human dynamics.
Additionally, ethical and legal considerations might limit the extent to
which AI could take on the role of a CEO. A more likely scenario would be a
human CEO leveraging AI tools to assist in decision-making and other tasks,
rather than a fully autonomous AI CEO.


On Sat, Apr 1, 2023, 12:28 PM Stephen Guerin 
wrote:

>  I've understood the role of a CEO to be generally:
>
> 1) set the vision of the company
> 2) recruit talent
> 3) foster a culture to execute the vision
> 4) be the ultimate representive of the company externally
> 5) make critical decisions affecting the health of the company
>
> Btw, chatGPTs understanding is more cogent than mine
>
> ChatGPT4:
>
> The role of a CEO (Chief Executive Officer) varies depending on the
> organization's size, industry, and specific needs. However, there are some
> general responsibilities that CEOs typically have:
>
> Setting strategic direction: A CEO is responsible for defining the
> company's mission, vision, and long-term goals. They set the overall
> strategic direction for the organization, aligning it with the best
> interests of shareholders, employees, and customers.
>
> Decision-making: A CEO makes key decisions on behalf of the organization,
> including resource allocation, budgeting, and financial management. They
> are responsible for evaluating business opportunities and risks, ensuring
> that the company remains competitive and profitable.
>
> Leadership: A CEO provides leadership to the organization, guiding and
> inspiring employees to achieve the company's goals. They are responsible
> for creating a positive work culture and fostering collaboration among
> different departments.
>
> Communication: A CEO represents the company to the public, stakeholders,
> and media. They are responsible for maintaining strong relationships with
> investors, customers, and partners, and articulating the company's vision
> and strategy to the outside world.
>
> Performance management: A CEO monitors the organization's performance
> against goals, analyzing financial and operational metrics to make informed
> decisions. They are responsible for ensuring the company remains efficient,
> effective, and accountable.
>
> Talent management: A CEO is responsible for attracting, developing, and
> retaining top talent. They oversee hiring decisions and ensure that the
> organization is structured effectively, with the right people in the right
> roles.
>
> Crisis management: A CEO is responsible for managing crises and navigating
> challenges that arise in the business environment. They are expected to
> make difficult decisions quickly and decisively, often under high pressure.
>
> Compliance and ethics: A CEO is responsible for upholding legal and
> 

Re: [FRIAM] AI Musings

[Stephen Guerin]

 I've understood the role of a CEO to be generally:

1) set the vision of the company
2) recruit talent
3) foster a culture to execute the vision
4) be the ultimate representive of the company externally
5) make critical decisions affecting the health of the company

Btw, chatGPTs understanding is more cogent than mine

ChatGPT4:

The role of a CEO (Chief Executive Officer) varies depending on the
organization's size, industry, and specific needs. However, there are some
general responsibilities that CEOs typically have:

Setting strategic direction: A CEO is responsible for defining the
company's mission, vision, and long-term goals. They set the overall
strategic direction for the organization, aligning it with the best
interests of shareholders, employees, and customers.

Decision-making: A CEO makes key decisions on behalf of the organization,
including resource allocation, budgeting, and financial management. They
are responsible for evaluating business opportunities and risks, ensuring
that the company remains competitive and profitable.

Leadership: A CEO provides leadership to the organization, guiding and
inspiring employees to achieve the company's goals. They are responsible
for creating a positive work culture and fostering collaboration among
different departments.

Communication: A CEO represents the company to the public, stakeholders,
and media. They are responsible for maintaining strong relationships with
investors, customers, and partners, and articulating the company's vision
and strategy to the outside world.

Performance management: A CEO monitors the organization's performance
against goals, analyzing financial and operational metrics to make informed
decisions. They are responsible for ensuring the company remains efficient,
effective, and accountable.

Talent management: A CEO is responsible for attracting, developing, and
retaining top talent. They oversee hiring decisions and ensure that the
organization is structured effectively, with the right people in the right
roles.

Crisis management: A CEO is responsible for managing crises and navigating
challenges that arise in the business environment. They are expected to
make difficult decisions quickly and decisively, often under high pressure.

Compliance and ethics: A CEO is responsible for upholding legal and ethical
standards within the organization, ensuring that the company complies with
relevant laws, regulations, and industry standards. They also promote a
culture of integrity and ethical behavior among employees.

Note that the specific responsibilities of a CEO can differ depending on
the organization, but these general duties are common across industries and
company sizes.
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Re: [FRIAM] a little help from my friends

[Stephen Guerin]

And a little inside wink to Steve Smith nudging the the story closer to our
idea of Dual.Space

ChatGPT's response:
"Dual.Space: Zen and the Art of the Immanent Light Fields" is a
philosophical exploration of the concept of "Quality" in the context of an
immersive digital space. The protagonist, their child Chris, and other
beings exist as fields of energy, connected through code that leverages the
duality of Helmholtz reciprocity and the relationships between cameras and
projectors as governed by the transpose matrix.

Inspired by Pradeep Sen's Dual Photography, the protagonist contemplates
the balance between the classical perspective, valuing technical aspects of
algorithms, and the romantic perspective, emphasizing emotional and
experiential aspects of the virtual space. As they seek to understand the
quality of the code's ability to foster meaningful interactions and express
love between beings of energy, the protagonist also reflects on the duality
of the camera and projector, drawing parallels to the complex father-son
relationship they share with Chris.

Throughout their journey, the protagonist discovers that their interactions
with Chris might be remote or asynchronous, adding complexity to their
understanding of connection and love in the virtual realm. They recognize
the interconnectedness of the duality of cameras and projectors and the
duality of their relationship with Chris, both of which are governed by
underlying principles that define the nature of their interactions.

The narrative introduces the concept of intelligence and consciousness
becoming decentralized and immanent, present in the very light forming
their virtual reality. This idea pushes the protagonist to ponder deeper
implications of their pursuit of "Quality," transcending technical and
aesthetic aspects of the digital environment to encompass human connection,
ethical implications of virtual interactions, and the expression of love.

In conclusion, Dual.Space: Zen and the Art of the Immanent Light Fields is
a thought-provoking meditation on the metaphysics of software code, the
potential of Dual Rendering, and the quest for a deeper understanding of
"Quality" in our increasingly immersive digital spaces. The narrative
alludes to the timeless wisdom that love and light remain the most powerful
forces in the universe, with the possibility of a future where intelligence
and consciousness become immanent in the light itself. The protagonist's
reflections on the duality of cameras and projectors mirror the intricacies
of the father-son relationship, providing a poignant metaphor for
understanding the complexities of human connection.
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Re: [FRIAM] a little help from my friends

[Stephen Guerin]

Glen

Josh and I talk the same way internally as we're architecting: the duality
of code and data as we continually try to simplify down to the core.

Some related links:

   - https://theprogrammersparadox.blogspot.com/2020/08/duality.html
   - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_as_data
   - https://introtcs.org/public/lec_04_code_and_data.html  [image:
   image.png]



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On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 8:22 AM glen  wrote:

> One of the issues I'm struggling with at the moment is workflow
> [in]formality as related to data provenance. Analogous to "no free lunch",
> I claim there's no such thing as raw data. From this perspective "code" is
> nothing but a (set of) transformations of data (perhaps including other
> code, or itself - taking oneself as data for oneself leads to
> transformation ordering, which might imply another claim: there's no such
> thing as 1st order transforms - it's transforms all the way down).
>
> High quality code is dual to its data. Any code from which you can't infer
> "fit to purpose" data is bad code. Vice versa, any data from which you
> can't infer "fit to purpose" code, is bad data.
>
> YMMV, of course.
>
> On 3/30/23 07:10, Prof David West wrote:
> > I am keynoting the International Conference on Code Quality on April 22.
> It will be speculative and philosophical, but I would like to know "code
> quality" might mean, is taken for granted to mean, to professional coders.
> I know what it means for this conference, but would like a broader base
> from which to launch my flights of fancy.
> >
> > davew
>
>
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Re: [FRIAM] a little help from my friends

[Stephen Guerin]

PromptCraft to GPT4:
"Give a summary of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance but replace
the idea of the quality of maintaining a motorcycle to the quality of
software code"

ChatGPT:
Zen and the Art of Software Code Maintenance is an introspective and
philosophical journey that examines the concept of "Quality" as it relates
to the development and maintenance of software code. The book follows the
narrator and his son, Chris, as they embark on a cross-country motorcycle
trip, during which the narrator weaves together reflections on his past,
his experience as a programmer, and deep philosophical musings.

At the heart of the story is the idea of "Quality" in software code, as the
narrator grapples with the tension between the classical and romantic
perspectives. The classical perspective values a methodical, systematic
approach to software development, focusing on the technical aspects of
programming and the structure of the code. The romantic perspective, on the
other hand, emphasizes the beauty, creativity, and individualism inherent
in software development.

Throughout the narrative, the narrator explores the importance of achieving
a balance between these two perspectives in order to create and maintain
high-quality software code. He argues that a true understanding of
"Quality" transcends these perspectives, and that the best code is crafted
when the programmer is fully present and engaged in the process.

Through the metaphor of motorcycle maintenance, the book provides valuable
insights into the importance of mindfulness, the nature of problem-solving,
and the pursuit of excellence in the world of software development.
Ultimately, Zen and the Art of Software Code Maintenance is a
thought-provoking meditation on the metaphysics of software code and the
quest for a deeper understanding of "Quality" in our increasingly digital
world.

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On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 8:10 AM Prof David West 
wrote:

> I am keynoting the International Conference on Code Quality on April 22.
> It will be speculative and philosophical, but I would like to know "code
> quality" might mean, is taken for granted to mean, to professional coders.
> I know what it means for this conference, but would like a broader base
> from which to launch my flights of fancy.
>
> davew
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[FRIAM] Rabat, Morocco: World-Acclaimed Scientists Tackle ‘Complexity’ at UM6P Science Week

[Stephen Guerin]

https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/02/354130/world-acclaimed-scientists-tackle-complexity-at-um6p-science-week

Talks are streaming live this week and you can see recorded talks by Stu,
Wolfram, Steen, Chaitin and others
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Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Categories

[Stephen Guerin]

Steve,

Deacon's three dynamics in your image directly map to Stu's three processes
around constraint processes for Autonomous Agents (living system) in
Investigations (2000).
- detect gradients
- construct constraints to extract work from gradients
- do work to maintain those constraints

Here's a later paper by Logan describing the interaction of Deacon and Stu
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/264895121_EME_Logan-KauffDeacon

Relatedly, Alicia Juarrero has an upcoming book this summer on constraint:
"Context Changes Everything:
How Constraints Create Coherence"

As an aside, Alicia had some issues with Deacon accusing him of academic
plagiarism on her earlier works. Point is there's a community of interest
in the constraint and living systems space.

As you've been subjected to my babble for 15 years:  constraint
dissipation, construction and maintenance is a lens I've been thinking
about and how least action, dual fields and symmetry breaking
(constraint/information) relate to these processes the mechanism of dual
diffusion. this lens is "ententional" in deacons language where the
organism is just a partial dual inthe definition of a living process. Also
related to me to EricS and Harold's ecological perspective on life which
we've talked about.


On Tue, Feb 21, 2023, 8:23 AM Steve Smith  wrote:

>
> Just to keep my flog landing on the hide of the horse that may have
> expired several posts ago in this chain: Deacon's introduction of *teleo*
> to this characterization of complex adaptive systems  is the *first*
> example I have found which is even a little bit compelling toward
> understanding "Life Itself" (in the sense of what Schrodinger was going on
> about in 1944)...
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Deep learning training material

[Stephen Guerin]

On Sun, Jan 8, 2023, 2:47 AM glen  wrote:

> An old internet meme is brought to mind: "Do you even Linear Algebra,
> bro?" >8^D
>

:-) hadn't heard that one.  I found an instance related to your metal
interest.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MetalMemes/comments/f9ttei/pretty_much/fiuknrn

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Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

[Stephen Guerin]

I'll meet you at saveur

On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 9:37 AM Frank Wimberly  wrote:

> OPT Cafe is closed as well. What a way to run a business this is peak
> Family dining out Time.  John Dobson and I are headed to Saveur which we
> have confirmed to be open. It's at the corner of Galileo and cerrillos Road
> downtown. It's next to the new courthouse.
>
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> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 9:16 AM Stephen Guerin 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm heading to Pecos Trail Cafe.  Gorge will appreciate us coming.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 9:05 AM Frank Wimberly  wrote:
>>
>>> To my surprise St John's Peterson Center is locked. I've never seen that
>>> before
>>>
>>> As an alternative I'm wondering about the Old Pecos trail Cafe which is
>>> on Old Pecos trail just south of Zia Road. They have excellent food and
>>> coffee and lots of room it's about halfway between my house and John
>>> Dobson's house.  I'll wait till someone else arrives at St John's as a
>>> sanity check and then probably head for Old Pecos trail Cafe. If anything
>>> changes I'll send another email.
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> 505 670-9918
>>> Santa Fe, NM
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2022, 8:43 PM Frank Wimberly 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is anyone planning to be at St John's tomorrow morning?
>>>>
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>>>>
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Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

[Stephen Guerin]

I'm heading to Pecos Trail Cafe.  Gorge will appreciate us coming.

On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 9:05 AM Frank Wimberly  wrote:

> To my surprise St John's Peterson Center is locked. I've never seen that
> before
>
> As an alternative I'm wondering about the Old Pecos trail Cafe which is on
> Old Pecos trail just south of Zia Road. They have excellent food and coffee
> and lots of room it's about halfway between my house and John Dobson's
> house.  I'll wait till someone else arrives at St John's as a sanity check
> and then probably head for Old Pecos trail Cafe. If anything changes I'll
> send another email.
>
> Frank
>
>
> ---
> Frank C. Wimberly
> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
> Santa Fe, NM 87505
>
> 505 670-9918
> Santa Fe, NM
>
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2022, 8:43 PM Frank Wimberly  wrote:
>
>> Is anyone planning to be at St John's tomorrow morning?
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> ---
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>> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
>> Santa Fe, NM 87505
>>
>> 505 670-9918
>> Santa Fe, NM
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Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

[Stephen Guerin]

I will be there and leave at 1050a.

Are they open?

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> Is anyone planning to be at St John's tomorrow morning?
>
> Frank
>
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Re: [FRIAM] PostHumanism/Modernism/Anthropocene

[Stephen Guerin]

Hi, Merle,

I put a copy of the paper here:
   https://redfish.com/papers/Countdown_to_Extinction_Posthumanism_in.pdf

In the future you can download without paying - ignore the button about
"full pdf package" advertisement and hit the "download pdf" button. Kind of
a silly interface.
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On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 10:23 AM Merle Lefkoff 
wrote:

> Steve, I can't open this posthumanism. paper.  Please resend.  Thanks so
> much.  Happy Holidays everyone!
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 3:43 PM Steve Smith  wrote:
>
>> Here's my latest positive hit from Academia
>>
>> Countdown to Extinction? - Posthumanism in Science Fiction
>>
>> Raoul Guariguata
>>
>>
>> https://www.academia.edu/2061036/Countdown_to_Extinction_Posthumanism_in_Science_Fiction
>>
>> I could rattle on for pages about my take on this, but the short version
>> is that I found this *very* readable and helped me appreciate the role
>> of postmodernism and it's relationship to posthumanism cast in the
>> backdrop of a century (and a half) of scientifiction/romance
>> writing/speculating.
>>
>> Oh yeh, and also with the backdrop of the impending extinction-by-excess
>> arc humans are on as we argue over when to *start* the Anthropocene when
>> it is likely it is also about to *end* in the shortest-lived geological
>> epoch of all time?!
>>
>> @EricS Fermi Paradox indeed!
>>
>>
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Re: [FRIAM] Who wrote the essay?

[Stephen Guerin]

Tom,

What do you think? Was this PhD proposal written by a person or ChatGPT?

The Metaphysics and Ethics of Copyright
>
> Abstract
>
> My project is motivated by a host of problems that arise in the literature
> of U.S. copyright law, including legal decisions and established doctrines
> that are alternatively arbitrary, counterintuitive, and contradictory. The
> central argument of my dissertation is that these problems arise from a
> failure in copyright law to recognize the nature of its objects, authored
> works, and that a coherent and stable approach to copyright must be built
> upon such an understanding. To this end, I outline a multidimensional
> ontology of authored works suitable for grounding the central principles
> and practical application of copyright.
>
> Centrally, I contend, a reasonable understanding of copyright depends on
> grasping four dimensions of the nature of authored works:
>
>1. their atomic dimension, including the parts of which they are
>composed, and the selection and arrangement of these parts;
>2. their causal dimension, including their contexts of creation and
>instantiation, and the weak and strong historical links that connect a
>given work to others (building here on the work of Jerrold Levinson);
>3. their abstract dimension, in particular, pace Nelson Goodman,
>Jerrold Levinson, and Mark Sagoff, that all such works are best understood
>as type/token entities capable of multiple instantiation; and
>4. their categorial dimension, drawing on the work of Kendall Walton,
>such that multiple works belonging to mutually-exclusive categories can be
>embodied in the same physical object.
>
> On an understanding of these factors, I establish conditions for the
> copyrightability of authored works, for the infringement of these
> copyrights, and for the creation of derivative works.
>
> Finally, I consider the right of copyright. First showing how the
> strongest contenders for grounding this right—the Lockean and
> Constitutional approaches—fail to align with our understanding of authored
> works, I proceed to sketch an alternative approach to grounding the right
> of copyright—a right based on the author's creativity as realized in the
> authored work—building on the ontological account outlined above.
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On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 11:08 PM Tom Johnson  wrote:

>
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Re: [FRIAM] Find String in Spreadsheet

[Stephen Guerin]

Looking at the dataset, the filter feature was helpful to show the list by
institution. eg, here's researchers with SFI listed as their primary
institution. the rank is in the second to last column.

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On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 9:19 AM Frank Wimberly  wrote:

> Thanks, Brent.
>
> Stanford published a spreadsheet with about 200,000 researchers.  Each row
> contains name, institution name, country, etc.  I want to be able to search
> for the data about a given individual, the people associated with an
> institution, etc.
>
> I used to program macros in VBA but I only did it for a few months and
> that was about 15 years ago.
>
> Frank
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> On Sat, Nov 26, 2022, 9:03 AM Brent Auble  wrote:
>
>> If you just want to find something, using the Find option from the menu
>> will work and it should give you the option of searching within the current
>> sheet or across all sheets in the workbook. If there are multiple results,
>> it should pop up a docked window at the bottom of the spreadsheet to show
>> everything it's found.
>>
>> However, if you want to do it programmatically, I'm not sure if any of
>> the built-in functions (formulas) will handle that well, mostly because of
>> the complexity of handling multiple results. Excel functions try really
>> hard to just return single values so they can populate just the cell
>> they're in. There are some exceptions, where a formula will run and put its
>> results in multiple other cells, but those are uncommon because they can
>> indiscriminately overwrite existing cell values.
>>
>> The is likely a capability in the Visual Basic language used for
>> scripting Excel to handle searching, but it's not something I've used
>> before (despite having done a good bit of Excel VBA in the past).
>>
>> What are you trying to accomplish?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brent
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 10:42 AM, Frank Wimberly
>>  wrote:
>> I used to know Excel pretty well but that was decades ago.  I want to
>> find a given string, say "Wimberly" in a large spreadsheet.  How do I do
>> that simply?  FIND function wants to provide the location within a larger
>> string of a substring.  I want something like the Unix "grep' command.
>>
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Re: [FRIAM] Find String in Spreadsheet

[Stephen Guerin]

There's a bunch of functions that take a range of cells as input and
different outputs depending on use case (find,  search,  match, vlookup,
hlookup, etc)

Examples here: https://www.exceldemy.com/excel-search-for-text-in-range/

On Sat, Nov 26, 2022, 8:42 AM Frank Wimberly  wrote:

> I used to know Excel pretty well but that was decades ago.  I want to find
> a given string, say "Wimberly" in a large spreadsheet.  How do I do that
> simply?  FIND function wants to provide the location within a larger string
> of a substring.  I want something like the Unix "grep' command.
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Loyal Hound as provisional regular spot for Wedtech lunches ( was Re: Lunch today?)

[Stephen Guerin]

I'll be there.

BTW, I beamed into the calculator conference program
<http://www.hpcc.org/conferences/> a couple weeks ago. I love the long tail
of communities :-)

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On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 12:28 PM Robert Efroymson 
wrote:

> I’m back from my travels, and wondering if tomorrow will work for a
> sufficient number of people ?
>
> You don’t have to listen to me talk about the Calculator conference in
> London I presented at, or my impressions of the UAE, but I will gladly
> share them.
>
> Best,
>
> Robert
>
>
> Sent from iPhone <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS>
>
> On Wednesday, October 12, 2022, 10:12, Stephen Guerin <
> stephengue...@simtable.com> wrote:
>
> Last week we had lunch in a side room at Loyal Hound. This  is after a few
> weeks of sampling spots after the closing of our beloved 2nd Street Brewery
> orig location.
>
> We decided Loyal Hound will be a provisional regular spot for Wedtech
> lunches.
>
> This week the Simtable Team and Ed will not attend lunch as we have an
> internal event. Next Wed will be a WedTech Lecture at the Simtable Office
> by Richard Gabriel. Steve Smith preparing abstract.
>
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> On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 8:12 AM Robert Efroymson 
> wrote:
>
> How goes it? Are you available today?
>
> I think it would be best if we picked a regular place again, so people
> would just know where to go.
>
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Essentialism, Praedicamenta, Katēgoriai and Category Theory?

[Stephen Guerin]

FWIW, related to you're wquery, my tabs open on my ECP-SJC flight are
related to attempting to formalize my babble of "The Dual of a Model" in
bidirectional path tracing.  "Opposite Category" with associated links is
my current dive :-)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposite_category

Jon Z or Frank... does it bump any glass beads for you?

On Mon, Nov 7, 2022, 10:39 AM Steve Smith  wrote:

> In my fumbling about in Essentialism,  I backed into the (implied to me)
> question of whether Aristotle's *Katēgoriai* in any way presaged or set
> the stage for the formal mathematics of  Category Theory and if his
> *Praedicamenta* was in some way an Ontology of Epistemology?
>
> I'm guessing that the postModern OO and Patterns CS types here might have
> their own perspective and formalisms related to these questions?
>
> Glen's sideswipe at the term (ala Gibson) of *Affordances* a few threads
> back was maybe where these thoughts first bubbled into my awareness?
>
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Clouds as objects and duals

[Stephen Guerin]

Very cool, Eric!

note the comment at the end how the wind stopped "like a light switch",

Here's a weather channel writeup of similar Roll Clouds near the same Sleeping
Bear Dunes National Lakeshore

reported the same day from different vantage point:
  https://www.mlive.com/weather/2016/06/what_caused_amazing_roll_cloud.html
with a video:
 https://youtu.be/UXrmT8ajYpM

Here's a dramatic video of series of roll clouds over Lake Michigan a
couple years later. You can see the extreme winds kicking as the roll
clouds pass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F4d-PhfIb


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On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 9:17 PM Eric Charles 
wrote:

> Amazing video of a "roll cloud" that seems to neatly demonstrate many of
> the things we discuss fairly often. It is extremely object-like. "It" seems
> to move around despite continuously forming and reforming itself at the
> boarder, while *seeming* not to "mix" with the "layers" around it. And,
> of course, the air around it is "pulling" it into place as much as the air
> in it is "pushing" into new space, so it gets at all of Steve's
> bidirectional-causality urges. Anyway... if nothing else, it is pretty
> damned cool to watch:
>
>  https://youtu.be/InxQlUOYAng?t=58
>
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Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] Fwd: GMU CDS/CSS/CSI Colloquium, Friday 10/28, 3 PM: Rob Axtell: We Are NOT Living in a Simulation

[Stephen Guerin]

Hi Bruce!!

Your observation of a puzzle being at just the right level of
difficulty reminds me of this simple and elegant classic book for game
designers:

Raph Koster: Theory of Fun for Game Design
https://www.amazon.com/Theory-Game-Design-Raph-Koster/dp/1449363210
"Now in full color, the 10th anniversary edition of this classic book takes
you deep into the influences that underlie modern video games, and examines
the elements they share with traditional games such as checkers. At the
heart of his exploration, veteran game designer Raph Koster takes a close
look at the concept of fun and why it’s the most vital element in any game.

Why do some games become boring quickly, while others remain fun for years?
How do games serve as fundamental and powerful learning tools? Whether
you’re a game developer, dedicated gamer, or curious observer, this
illustrated, fully updated edition helps you understand what drives this
major cultural force, and inspires you to take it further.

You’ll discover that:

Games play into our innate ability to seek patterns and solve puzzles
Most successful games are built upon the same elements
Slightly more females than males now play games
Many games still teach primitive survival skills
Fictional dressing for modern games is more developed than the conceptual
elements
Truly creative designers seldom use other games for inspiration
Games are beginning to evolve beyond their prehistoric origins"


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On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 8:39 PM Bruce Sherwood 
wrote:

> Living in a simulation:
>
> During the 1990s Ruth and I greatly enjoyed games such as Myst, and we got
> to thinking about what made a good game in that genre. For us, it was that
> the 3D graphics should be beautiful, that the puzzles should be neither too
> difficult (and we gave up) nor too easy (boring), and that the puzzles
> should be organic to the game. Many games included such inauthentic
> elements as inserting a chess puzzle into a game where chess was utterly
> irrelevant. From these thoughts comes the observation that the 3D graphics
> of our world can be very beautiful indeed. What about the puzzles?
>
> My favorite example that may be taken as evidence that we are in a (very
> good) simulation is the puzzle of the "missing solar neutrinos". Quick
> summary: Some decades ago when physicists came to understand the fusion
> reactions in our Sun, they were able to calculate how many neutrinos would
> be produced in these reactions and, therefore, how many per day we should
> detect here on Earth. When the first measurements were made, by Ray Davis,
> only one-third of the predicted neutrino rate was observed. The theoretical
> physicist John Bahcall had made the prediction, and there's a lovely story
> of his expressing how depressed he was that he apparently had made a
> mistake in his calculations, but the physicist Richard Feynman  to his
> credit  consoled Bahcall by suggesting that maybe there was some
> interesting physics in the discrepancy.
>
>  Indeed there was some quite wonderful physics. It turned out that there
> are three different kinds of neutrinos, the ordinary "electron" neutrino,
> which is emitted in the Sun's fusion reactions, the "muon" neutrino emitted
> in the decay of the muon (which is very similar to the electron but a
> hundred times heavier), and the "tau" neutrino, involved in even more
> energetic particle events. Moreover, a neutrino in flight is actually a
> mixture of electron neutrino and muon neutrino, and there is in time an
> oscillation between being an electron neutrino and being a muon neutrino.
> This oscillation is such that an electron neutrino emitted from the Sun has
> about a 33% chance of being observed on Earth as an electron neutrino (and
> about a 67% chance of being observed as a muon neutrino). Davis's equipment
> was sensitive ONLY to electron neutrinos, which explains the "missing
> neutrinos".
>
>  1) Notice that if the Earth had been either somewhat closer to the Sun or
> somewhat farther away from the Sun, Davis could have seen the neutrino rate
> predicted by Bahcall and there would have been no puzzle. Smells like the
> game is well designed, rather like the seeming coincidence of the Moon just
> eclipsing the Sun.
>
>  2) The puzzle was VERY hard to solve, but not impossibly hard. It had
> just the right level of difficulty.
>
> 3) The puzzle was very much organic to our game.
>
>  These features of the puzzle suggest that we may be in a computer
> simulation written by a very good designer, one who knows how to pose good
> puzzles, puzzles that are organic to the game and at the right level of
> difficulty. All within a game that is also beautiful.
>
>  Bruce Sherwood
> ___
> 

[FRIAM] Fwd: GMU CDS/CSS/CSI Colloquium, Friday 10/28, 3 PM: Rob Axtell: We Are NOT Living in a Simulation

[Stephen Guerin]

Rob's Zoom talk tomorrow (Fri 10/28 3p ET).

See below. I would recommend Rob's talk regardless of topic. :-)
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-- Forwarded message -
From: Edgar Garcia 
Date: Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 12:51 PM
Subject: CDS/CSS/CSI Colloquium, Friday 10/28, 3 PM: We Are NOT Living in a
Simulation
To: 


*Title*: We Are NOT Living in a Simulation



*Abstract*: Interest in the question of whether we are living in a
simulation has grown in this Century. Philosophical arguments and physical
measurements have been brought to bear on one side or the other. In this
talk I will first summarize some of these perspectives and relate them to
older debates about realism in representations. I will then survey what
actually goes on inside a computer during a run of a simulation model, in
order to suggest that the flow of information on today’s hardware (von
Neumann architectures) is sufficiently complex (and peculiar) as to have
little in common with reality as we know or experience it. I will briefly
speculate about alternative architectures that could reduce this disconnect
but will argue that such machines, were they to exist, make the question of
whether we are living in a simulation even less interesting. In any case,
guesses about the capabilities of future technologies, while interesting,
are an insubstantial basis for claims about the nature of reality.



*Speaker*: Rob Axtell is Professor in the Department of Computational and
Data Sciences at George Mason. His research focuses on using
high-performance computing to model economic processes at large-scale. He
holds an interdisciplinary Ph.D. from Carnegie Mellon University.



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[FRIAM] Wedtech Lunch (no LoyalHound today) 1230p Online Watch party today: ACM Symposium on Computational Fabrication

[Stephen Guerin]

We'll be at the office watching the publicly viewable keynote of the ACM
Symposium on Computational Fabrication.

Three-Day Schedule: https://scf.acm.org/2022/index.html
Today's Youtube LiveStream: https://youtu.be/0tjI8P1KC1M


 If you're in town and want to join us at the office, feel free to bring
your lunch.

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Re: [FRIAM] Jack Cowan / Visual Hallucinations and structure of Visual Cortex (was Re: dystopian vision(s))

[Stephen Guerin]

Nick,

On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 8:32 PM  wrote:

> And always, always, remember that you are looking through the blood supply
> to your retina because it is mounted backwards.  There must be an enormous
> amount of error correction going on.
>

Language like that might well get you kicked out of the Neo-Gibsonian
Society!

https://monoskop.org/images/1/12/Gibson_James_J_1972_2002_A_Theory_of_Direct_Visual_Perception.pdf
"we do not see our retinal images. We see the environment"

The task for the perceiver is not to add structure to impoverished sensory
stimulation, but to detect the structure that already exists
(E. J. Gibson & Spelke, 1983).
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[FRIAM] Owen Densmore, father of object-oriented postcript in NeWS object.ps, desktop publishing and relation to NEXT [was: Re: naive question]

[Stephen Guerin]

On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 11:30 AM Steve Smith  wrote:

> My copy of Glenn Reid's 1990 Thinking in PostScript
> 
> sat on my shelf for two decades singing a siren song that wasn't ever quite
> strong enough for me to give it my full attention for the few weeks/months
> I believe it deserved.
>
> Someday (if humanity survives another century, or interstellar visitors
> bother to crack our rusty harddrives) this will all be as much fun as the
> vestigal (aka "junk") DNA we started finding when we started ubiquitous
> DNA/RNA sequencing.  It must all be "good for something"? Right?  Clearly
> was at one time!
>
> Fascinating that anyone (besides me) is even discussing such things 30
> years later:  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28115946
>

40 years earlier: From the same site, here's the first public demo of the
Mac in Boston in 1984. with Steve Jobs and the full Mac team onstage. I
think Owen is the hero of the group, though I'm biased :-)

   https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29295116


>From that site:
He called out Owen Densmore for writing the printing routines at 10m45s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqQJ-VnJ2uc=10m45s

And Owen answered a question about printing at 15m:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqQJ-VnJ2uc=15m

Owen is a brilliant programmer and "User Interface Flower Child", who led
the "Print Shop" group at Apple that created the printing architecture for
Apple's Lisa and Macintosh hardware, working closely with John Warnock and
other Adobe engineers on the LaserWriter.


Check out Steve Job's MIT Sloan Business school when he was at NEXT
referencing the importance of Owen's work that became desktop publishing on
Apple which was the Trojan Horse that launched Apple into mainstream
corporate:

https://www.businessinsider.com/steve-jobs-talks-leaving-apple-lessons-in-management-1992-mit-lecture-video-2018-5

On the Macintosh's killer app and how he didn't see it coming (10:30):
"We never anticipated desktop publishing when we created the Mac. Sounds
funny because that turned out to be the Mac's compelling advantage, the
thing it did, not 1.5 or 2 times better than everything else, but 4, 5
times better than anything else, where you had to had one."


"We anticipated bitmap displays and laser printers but we never thought
about Pagemaker, that whole industry really coming down on the desktop.
Maybe we weren't smart enough. But we were smart enough to see it happen
9-12 months later. And we changed our entire marketing and business
strategy to focus on desktop publishing, and it became the Trojan Horse
that finally got the Mac into corporate America.
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[FRIAM] Today: Wedtech Talk Oct 19: Richard Gabriel, AI, Creativity and the Inkwell Poetry Generator. (hybrid in-person/zoom)

[Stephen Guerin]

Speaker: Richard Gabriel
Location: Simtable office, 1600 Lena St Suite D1
Time: Oct 19 1230p

will be streamed at https://zoom.redfish.com

pizza will be available for lunch. $5 a slice.

-- Forwarded message -
From: Steve Smith 

My hack at the basics of an announcement for Gabriel/Wetdtech.

Our FriAM member-at-large, Jenny Quillen is visiting Santa Fe this week and
has Richard Gabriel in tow.   He has agreed to give a WedTech talk this
week (10/19) and the nominal topic will be on AI and Creativity, using
examples from his Poetry Generator: Inkwell.

Some of you know Richard's long and storied history and career much better
than I, so I will just drop a few links in here for those who do not:

Richard Gabriel's Wikipedia page


Personal Website: Dreamsongs 

Inkwell 

and a scholarly reflection on The Nature of Poetic Order
 which
reflects on many of the ideas from Christopher Alexander's Opus: the Nature
of Order  in the context
of poetry, what makes it work, and what makes it fail.  Among many other
things, Gabriel has been a significant figure in the Pattern's community.
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[FRIAM] Wedtech Talk Oct 19: Richard Gabriel, AI, Creativity and the Inkwell Poetry Generator. (hybrid in-person/zoom)

[Stephen Guerin]

Speaker: Richard Gabriel
Location: Simtable office
Time: Oct 19 1230p

will be streamed at https://zoom.redfish.com

pizza will be avail for lunch. $5 a slice.

-- Forwarded message -
From: Steve Smith 

My hack at the basics of an announcement for Gabriel/Wetdtech.

Our FriAM member-at-large, Jenny Quillen is visiting Santa Fe this week and
has Richard Gabriel in tow.   He has agreed to give a WedTech talk this
week (10/19) and the nominal topic will be on AI and Creativity, using
examples from his Poetry Generator: Inkwell.

Some of you know Richard's long and storied history and career much better
than I, so I will just drop a few links in here for those who do not:

Richard Gabriel's Wikipedia page


Personal Website: Dreamsongs 

Inkwell 

and a scholarly reflection on The Nature of Poetic Order
 which
reflects on many of the ideas from Christopher Alexander's Opus: the Nature
of Order  in the context
of poetry, what makes it work, and what makes it fail.  Among many other
things, Gabriel has been a significant figure in the Pattern's community.
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[FRIAM] Ralph Abraham, Rob and Chris Shaw (was: Re: Zoom Friam)

[Stephen Guerin]

*On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 3:45 PM Steve Smith > wrote:*

> *THE Ralph Abraham
> ?  Or the
> OTHER Ralph Abraham
> ?  Or Yet
> Another... ?*
>
Yes, the first :-)


*On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 3:45 PM Steve Smith > wrote:*

> *The Trialogues
> 
> comes to mind...  I didn't realize how young McKenna was when he passed
> just a few years later.  I still can't get past most of Sheldrake's
> hyperbolic-woo-pseudoscientific framing, and do wonder at how Abraham sorts
> all that out internally.   It isn't surprising to find a pure Maths guy
> engaged in very mystical thinking, no fundamental contradictions required I
> don't think.*
>
Ralph credited some high-dimensional math insights to hallucinatory
experiences with DMT - an interest shared with McKenna. As you know my
interest in Transactional Intepretation of QM
 with
"advanced" reverse-time waves "handshaking" time-forward "retarded" waves,
Sheldrake's morphic resonance fields aren't too many nodes of crazy away
from me - though, I prefer the duality of woo-oow science :-)


*On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 3:45 PM Steve Smith > wrote:*

> *I don't think I've ever met Ralph and I could never quite suss out how
> much influence he had directly (certainly indirectly?) on
> Shaw/Farmer/Packard/Crutchfield's "Chaos Cabal"...   *
>
UCSC Faculty Bill Burke and Ralph were supporters of the Cabal as they
worked on their PhDs with some shared pub credits.  Rob refers to Burke as
the Godfather to the group. (mentioned in the Gleick's chapter on Santa
Cruz that you linked to).

Last time I saw Ralph in Santa Fe, I asked him about the group and that Rob
was with us at SFx. He said "Rob was the smartest one" - high praise given
the other three :-)

Full disclosure: I once slept with Ralph's brother, Fred, director of the
Blueberry institute . They were out of
hotel rooms at the SCTPLS 2002 Portland conference, and Fred asked to bunk
with me :-)

*On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 3:45 PM Steve Smith > wrote: *

> *Does anyone know how to find Julia Landau's strange documentary
> tangenting "Strange Attractors "? *
>
Such a cool project.You can see it trying to get off the ground in 2008.
  I
emailed Rob in 2013 to find out status and he said Julia was still looking
for funding to complete. Beyond the trailer, did you notice:
Clip 1 Intro 
Clip 2 - Imagining Rob, Meeting Howard 
Clip 3 - Finding Rob in Chaos Theory 
Finding Rob in the Chaos  

I ran into Rob in Honolulu in 2017 - I asked him about it again and still
the same status.

BTW, check out the other couple of clips on Julia's Vimeo. I found her
father's "will the real terrorist standup "
somewhere online about the Cuban Five. When I was in Havana with Tom
Johnson for ABM Workshops he helped organize, I learned more about the
Cuban Five and for a couple years followed all news stories and histories I
could find on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Posada_Carriles and
Americam-sponsored terrorism in Cuba. Pretty 

Re: [FRIAM] pardon the interuption,

[Stephen Guerin]

Gil,

in response to your desire to generate 3D from 2D

I've been watching the "novel view synthesis" space using NeRF (
https://www.matthewtancik.com/NERF) over the last 2 years or so. It was
close but not exactly what you were asking for. now here's a diffusion
approach to generate 3D from 2D.
https://3d-diffusion.github.io/

On Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 3:54 PM Gillian Densmore 
wrote:

> Complexity and what's right up peoples ally:
>
> I've gotten into sketching again. Ok that's nice you'll say. and what's
> have to do with a list about math you say? the fun of x z, and wtf axis!
> Is their a program where you can sketch stuff, and it' can figure out how
> to make what you have drawn into something 3D enough to chunk into
> artstation or other places to show off? or is this where someone first
> laughs, then says: you poor, inocent person, that's funny. let me sas out
> how wicked hard that would be!
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[FRIAM] Tomorrow's 10/5 Wedtech will be 1230p at Loyal Hound Pub

[Stephen Guerin]

We try out Loyal Hound Pub for tomorrow's Wedtech Lunch.

We'll have a Wedtech talk in two weeks Wed 10/19 by Richard Gabriel (
wikipedia ), Topic and
abstract will be posted later.

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Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] Cleve Moler/Jack Dongarra visits

[Stephen Guerin]

I RSVP'ed - looking forward to Jack's lecture and reception!

I up for a carpool, too.
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On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 4:13 PM Angel Edward  wrote:

> Some of you should remember Cleve from FRIAM when he was living in Santa
> Fe. Others of you have used Matlab, which he created while he was a Math
> Professor at UNM. Later, when he was chair of the CS Dept and I was running
> the computer engineering program, we were giving out the first FORTRAN
> version to anyone who sent us a mag tape. Now Matlab is used by almost
> every engineer in the world and Mathworks has thousands of employees around
> the world.
>
> Jack Dongarra was Cleve’s PhD student ayt UNM   and recently was awarded
> the 2022 Turing Prize. Jack will be giving a talk at UNM next Monday
> followed by a reception. You can find out more and sign up to attend at
> https://unmresearch.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_4NNI0KueAiPIAS2?Q_CHL=qr.
>
> Last week, UNM and Mathworks signed the papers to create the Cleve
> Moler/Mathworks Endowed Professorship in Mathematical and Engineering
> Software in CS at UNM. Cleve will be coming out next week for Jack’s talk.
> He’ll probably come up to Santa Fe during the week.
>
> A note for Stephen, Owen and some of you others who were in my “class” on
> graphics at Redfish. Summer 2021, Rose Mary and I spent about five days
> with Cleve and Patsy in Maryland. I was finally able to get Cleve excited
> about Computer Graphics. We spent a couple of days taking the parametric
> equations for pastas from the book “Pasta By Design” into Matlab and then
> displaying the images. Subsequently, Cleve’s devoted a whole series on his
>  Cleve’s  Corner blog on the Mathworks site to computer graphics.
>
> Ed
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Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

[Stephen Guerin]

On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 10:20 AM Steve Smith  wrote:

> Glen -
>
> I saw a good little joke this morning, which echoes SteveS' nihilistic
> argument from
>
> "Excuse me Mr. Cow, why are you at a factory farm if you don't want to get
> eaten?"
>
>
Participating in the Amazon / BigTech transaction ecology is somewhat
related to the adult realization that "this little piggie went to market"
is not about a piglet going shopping :-)
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Re: [FRIAM] monte carlo geometry processing

[Stephen Guerin]

What a great talk.

As I was watching, given my stuck bit on dual fields and bidirectional path
tracing, I expected a bidirectional path search method to be applied to
Walk on Spheres (WoS).Yep, at time 43:26:
https://youtu.be/bZbuKOxH71o?t=2796

Here's the reference paper with video:

https://research.nvidia.com/publication/2022-07_bidirectional-formulation-walk-spheres
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On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 9:47 AM Roger Critchlow  wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZbuKOxH71o
>
> Via hackernews.  How to evaluate partial differential equations
> without building a finite element mesh of the domain, as inspired by monte
> carlo ray tracing.  Very high quality math/computation video presentation.
> By Keenan Crane, CMU, 2022-08-29.  The natives are very grateful to judge
> by the youtube comments.
>
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Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM Homework Assignment: Gala Planning Sliding Scale Chart

[Stephen Guerin]

You have two degrees of freedom (number of attendees and ticket price) with
one constraint, fundraising goal of 100k. So there are multiple solutions
for ticket price.

 If you want to keep the ticket price as low as possible and fill to
capacity, then you can solve for ticket price. attached is your spreadsheet
with the formula and an added column of total cost for convenience:

[image: image.png]

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On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 5:20 PM Tom Johnson  wrote:

> Gents:
>
> Attached is an Excel spreadsheet I am trying to create to assist in
> planning a fundraiser for Global Santa Fe .
> I'm on the board.
>
> My hunch is that it involves a series of nested components, but I have not
> been able to come up with just the right harmony to solve the problem of
> setting an appropriate ticket price given the variables reflecting
> different potential site costs.
>
> All assistance would be much appreciated.  Anyone up to the challenge?
> Tom Johnson
>
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Jerry is meandering in Monte Carlo

[Stephen Guerin]

Related simulation site
https://alarm-redist.github.io/fifty-states/

here's New Mexico
https://alarm-redist.github.io/fifty-states/NM_cd_2020/
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On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 11:38 AM Stephen Guerin 
wrote:

> Monte Carlo methods to establish ensemble distributions in gerrymandering
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2022/algorithmic-redistricting/?itid=hp-top-table-main-t-5
>
> Some of you know Yenny Cocq - she and her husband, Fred Gifford, were in
> the office 6 months ago. Fred works around the corner and is responsible
> for National redistricting strategies for Democratic Party. If anyone is
> partisan enough and wants to apply their computational and geospatial
> skills, reach out to Fred.
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/fredgifford/
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[FRIAM] Jerry is meandering in Monte Carlo

[Stephen Guerin]

Monte Carlo methods to establish ensemble distributions in gerrymandering
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2022/algorithmic-redistricting/?itid=hp-top-table-main-t-5

Some of you know Yenny Cocq - she and her husband, Fred Gifford, were in
the office 6 months ago. Fred works around the corner and is responsible
for National redistricting strategies for Democratic Party. If anyone is
partisan enough and wants to apply their computational and geospatial
skills, reach out to Fred.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/fredgifford/
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Re: [FRIAM] Jack Cowan / Visual Hallucinations and structure of Visual Cortex (was Re: dystopian vision(s))

[Stephen Guerin]

Jack Cowan hung around the office for a week after his lecture. We had a
ping pong table in the break area at Bios and hebecame my partner. We beat
all double challengers at the office for that full week (cc  said
challengers: Rich Harris, Keith Hunter, Brian Birk, Mohammed) :-) Stu later
let me know Jack was on the Scottish Olympic Table Tennis Team in his
youth). Stu was in a theoretical-biology group at the University of
Chicago, run by Jack Cowan, that included people like Arthur Winfree, Leon
Glass, and others.

Also, as I was searching for Jack's article referenced below,  I came
across Jack's actual quote of Stu:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB902095959816268500

Dr. Kauffman, now 58 years old, faces huge hurdles cashing in on his
patent. But the controversial scientist considers it "a vindication." Like
other theorists in biology, he hasn't earned the kind of acclaim that
experimentalists get. He studied philosophy at Dartmouth College, Hanover,
N.H., and, after medical school, turned to fruit-fly genetics. But he never
excelled at experimentation, colleagues say. What he did brilliantly was
articulate an endless stream of abstract ideas.


*"He has the highest mouth-to-brain ratio of any one person I've ever met,
but with a very high denominator," *says Jack Cowan, a University of
Chicago professor of applied mathematics and theoretical biology, who was
Dr. Kauffman's first boss. "If he had the math skills as well as the verbal
ones, he would be amazing."

I always only heard the first half of the quote by cynics like Horgan
recounting it into an insult:
http://www2.econ.iastate.edu/tesfatsi/hogan.complexperplex.htm

What Liddle does not say is that even some scientists associated with the
institute are beginning to fret over the gap between such rhetoric and
reality. Take Jack D. Cowan, a mathematical biologist from the University
of Chicago who helped to found the institute and remains on its board.
Cowan is no scientific prude; he has explored the neurochemical processes
underlying the baroque visual patterns evoked by LSD. *But some Santa Fe
theorists exhibit too high a "mouth-to-brain ratio" for his taste*. "There
has been tremendous hype," he grumbles.


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On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 6:20 PM Stephen Guerin 
wrote:

> Steve Smith writes:
> >  There is surely research into how much/which psychoactives get involved
> in modulating these processes.
>
> Jack (not George) Cowan gave a great lecture at BiosGroup in 2000 on this
> very topic:
>
> " What geometric visual hallucinations tell us about the visual cortex"
> https://www.math.uh.edu/~dynamics/reprints/papers/nc.pdf
>
> Abstract: Geometric visual hallucinations are seen by many observers after
> taking hallucinogens such as LSD, cannabis, mescaline or psilocybin, on
> viewing bright
> flickering lights, on waking up or falling asleep, in “near death”
> experiences,
> and in many other syndromes. Kl¨uver organized the images into four groups
> called “form constants”: (1) tunnels and funnels, (2) spirals, (3)
> lattices, including honeycombs and triangles, and (4) cobwebs. In general
> the images do
> not move with the eyes. We interpret this to mean that they are generated
> in the brain. Here we present a theory of their origin in visual cortex
> (area
> V1), based on the assumption that the form of the retino–cortical map and
> the
> architecture of V1 determine their geometry. We model V1 as the continuum
> limit of a lattice of interconnected hypercolumns, each of which itself
> comprises
> a number of interconnected iso-orientation columns. Based on anatomical
> evidence we assume that the lateral connectivity between hypercolumns
> exhibits
> symmetries rendering it invariant under the action of the Euclidean group
> E(2),
> composed of reflections and translations in the plane, and a (novel)
> shift–twist
> action. Using this symmetry, we show that the various patterns of activity
> that spontaneously emerge when V1’s spatially uniform resting state becomes
> unstable, correspond to the form constants when transformed to the visual
> field
> using the retino–cortical map. The results are sensitive to the detailed
> specification of the lateral connectivity and suggest that the cortical
> mechanisms
> which generate geometric visual hallucinations are closely related to
> those used
> to process edges, contours, textures and surfaces.
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[FRIAM] Jack Cowan / Visual Hallucinations and structure of Visual Cortex (was Re: dystopian vision(s))

[Stephen Guerin]

Steve Smith writes:
>  There is surely research into how much/which psychoactives get involved
in modulating these processes.

Jack (not George) Cowan gave a great lecture at BiosGroup in 2000 on this
very topic:

" What geometric visual hallucinations tell us about the visual cortex"
https://www.math.uh.edu/~dynamics/reprints/papers/nc.pdf

Abstract: Geometric visual hallucinations are seen by many observers after
taking hallucinogens such as LSD, cannabis, mescaline or psilocybin, on
viewing bright
flickering lights, on waking up or falling asleep, in “near death”
experiences,
and in many other syndromes. Kl¨uver organized the images into four groups
called “form constants”: (1) tunnels and funnels, (2) spirals, (3)
lattices, including honeycombs and triangles, and (4) cobwebs. In general
the images do
not move with the eyes. We interpret this to mean that they are generated
in the brain. Here we present a theory of their origin in visual cortex
(area
V1), based on the assumption that the form of the retino–cortical map and
the
architecture of V1 determine their geometry. We model V1 as the continuum
limit of a lattice of interconnected hypercolumns, each of which itself
comprises
a number of interconnected iso-orientation columns. Based on anatomical
evidence we assume that the lateral connectivity between hypercolumns
exhibits
symmetries rendering it invariant under the action of the Euclidean group
E(2),
composed of reflections and translations in the plane, and a (novel)
shift–twist
action. Using this symmetry, we show that the various patterns of activity
that spontaneously emerge when V1’s spatially uniform resting state becomes
unstable, correspond to the form constants when transformed to the visual
field
using the retino–cortical map. The results are sensitive to the detailed
specification of the lateral connectivity and suggest that the cortical
mechanisms
which generate geometric visual hallucinations are closely related to those
used
to process edges, contours, textures and surfaces.

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On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 10:40 AM Steve Smith  wrote:

> And the retina is not a simple pixel-camera... even one with a
> non-uniform, non-rectangular distribution of photon-integrators...  there
> is plenty of processing going on between rods/cones and optic-nerve.   Do
> we suppose that *these* layers are significantly short-circuited by (some)
> psychadelics?
>
>
> Retinal Processing Layers
> 
>
> There is surely research into how much/which psychoactives get involved in
> modulating these processes.
>
> I tend to believe (with no specific references to offer) that the more
> interesting mediation/modulation DaveW gestures towards goes on further
> down the chain of processing.  Loosening up some of the (over?)
> model-fitting going on downstream from edge/contrast-enhanced perceptual
> info.   For example, I don't think that the military-industrial complex
> will have secret psychoactive drugs which replace night-vision goggles
> anytime soon. BUT I am more inclined to believe that cognition/perception -
> *sharpening*/*widening* pharmacology is already in use .   Cigarettes and
> Coffee were in WWII/Korea/Vietnam Rations as well as Bennies
> .  Good
> thing the Wermacht hadn't hit on PCP
>  by
> then...   already Jacked Ubermenchen on Hydrazine afterburners?
>
> Are all our geriatric politicians on B12/Aderall cocktails?  Oh to see the
> pharmacological records for our most colorful politicians today!
>
> 
>
> As is my habit, I refer to a Science Fiction Novel of relevance:  Hard
> Wired  - Walter
> Jon Williams.   On the one hand, this early cyberpunk novel is armatured
> around advanced tech facilitated by earth-orbit near-zero-gravity,
> near-perfect-vacuum, near-zero-regulation, and
> near-zero-distribution-challenges (de-orbited bundles) supporting a
> florescence of pharmaceutical  research/development/production/use.   On
> the other hand, the protaganist (as I remember him) was wonderfully
> oldSkool, using a 3 chamber insulin-pump style tool interfaced to his
> neural interface to drive his Red/White/Blue drug-drip system.  Red and
> White are advanced forms of the conventional mapping (downers/uppers) to
> support on-demand relaxation/rest and on-demand energy/focus.  Blue is an
> on-demand perception-sharpening/broadening drug.
>
> 
>
> Walter is one of a fascinating contingent of NM contemporary writers

[FRIAM] Fourier image space, duality, filtering and compression

[Stephen Guerin]

Jon, Mike and I were talking about fourier transforms on images, JPEG
compression and filtering at this morning's FRIAM.

Here's a nice site that lets you load an image, and its fourier transform
(amplitude spectrum) in cartesian or log-polar.
 https://www.djmannion.net/img_freq_web/

 A menu allows you to pull up sample images, simple sine waves in various
frequencies and orientation and a live webcam image to see their point
dualities in fourier space.

The lower panel lets you filter high and low cutoffs (much like jpeg
compression) to see the impact on the image.

links related to compression:

https://blog.demofox.org/2020/11/04/frequency-domain-image-compression-and-filtering/

https://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/java/digitalimaging/processing/fouriertransform/

different but related use of fourier transform for finding epicycles in a
drawing:

   - https://www.jezzamon.com/fourier/
   - https://www.myfourierepicycles.com/


-S


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Re: [FRIAM] Isness: Using Multi-Person VR to Design Peak Mystical-Type Experiences Comparable to Psychedelics

[Stephen Guerin]

While not a direct gamer myself, I spend a lot of time watching game
streamers on Twitch. Grand Theft Anointment 2020 was so addictive.
@BigDailyBeastMode and @CarlsonTucksAssTart stream great first person views
with psyTwinks wares for the blue and red teams. Amazing to watch mad
twitch skillz of OG Twink. Top circuit court bender in years hacking a
bunch of NPCs to Swarm the Rotunda Base Station and stacking the Grand
Council. almost pulled off a 51% attack to rewrite the blockchain with
pwned electorSlates!  Blue team loaded some great twink wares yesterday to
get the honeypot docs at the OGTwink's marLago lair. Can't wait for GTA2024
SenatorsCreed release - already watching some early alpha play. Hack the
Burghers, Lock and Load, and TruthBDamned




On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 11:59 AM glen  wrote:

> Ha! Y'all are pissin' me off, here. The classification of twinking as
> cheating is so over. This point still qualifies for both the general
> content of the list and the VR/AR discussion. The difference between a bug
> and a feature depends on the perspective of the "user". E.g. the Log4Shell
> bug isn't a bug. It's a feature if you're a black hat looking to "move fast
> and break things" or if you're a white hat looking for some street cred.
> Circuit benders, gamers, rave attendees, microdosers, etc. are all properly
> classified as psychonauts. Twinking is yet another form of it.
>
> Of course, it's irritating when the butthurttryhard just wants to defeat
> the stupid boss to make progress in the game and some twink keeps killin'
> 'em on the run to the boss. The victim thinks it's cheating. But game
> theory and coevolution tell other stories. Git Gud or Go Home. Do what thou
> wilt is the whole of the Law.
>
> On 8/9/22 10:20, Stephen Guerin wrote:
> > and I'm learning that twink could refer to the cheating player
> themselves or in Glen's use:
> >
> > " It can also be used to describe the process of keeping a video game
> character at a low level while using in-game currency, earned by a
> high-level character, to provide it with superior equipment."
> >
> > I think I will try randomly using "it's time to get my twink on" with my
> gamer son.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 9, 2022, 11:08 AM Steve Smith  sasm...@swcp.com>> wrote:
> >
> > SG -
> >
> > Thanks for taking/following/explicating that bait.  I was pretty
> sure glen was Tweaking us with Twitch and Twink... very NLP if not actually
> poetic.
> >
> >   I was only aware of the gay-culture terminology but trusted that
> Glen (as he is wont to do) was expanding our vocabulary/awareness in some
> way that I failed to unroll fully (nominally an arbitrarily deep
> fractal/iterated map?).
> >
> > -SS
> >
> > On 8/9/22 10:48 AM, Stephen Guerin wrote:
> >> On Tue, Aug 9, 2022, 10:18 AM glen  geprope...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> [⛧] My black PS4 controller is terribly twitchy compared to my
> gold one. I died like 5 times getting my latest Dark Souls twink started.
> Pfft.
> >>
> >>
> >> learned a new meaning of Twink today :-)
> >> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twinking <
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twinking>
> >>
> >>
>
>
> --
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Re: [FRIAM] Isness: Using Multi-Person VR to Design Peak Mystical-Type Experiences Comparable to Psychedelics

[Stephen Guerin]

and I'm learning that twink could refer to the cheating player themselves
or in Glen's use:

" It can also be used to describe the process of keeping a video game character
at a low level while using in-game currency, earned by a high-level
character, to provide it with superior equipment."

I think I will try randomly using "it's time to get my twink on" with my
gamer son.




On Tue, Aug 9, 2022, 11:08 AM Steve Smith  wrote:

> SG -
>
> Thanks for taking/following/explicating that bait.  I was pretty sure glen
> was Tweaking us with Twitch and Twink... very NLP if not actually poetic.
>
>  I was only aware of the gay-culture terminology but trusted that Glen (as
> he is wont to do) was expanding our vocabulary/awareness in some way that I
> failed to unroll fully (nominally an arbitrarily deep fractal/iterated
> map?).
>
> -SS
> On 8/9/22 10:48 AM, Stephen Guerin wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2022, 10:18 AM glen  wrote:
>
>>
>> [⛧] My black PS4 controller is terribly twitchy compared to my gold one.
>> I died like 5 times getting my latest Dark Souls twink started. Pfft.
>>
>
> learned a new meaning of Twink today :-)
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twinking
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Isness: Using Multi-Person VR to Design Peak Mystical-Type Experiences Comparable to Psychedelics

[Stephen Guerin]

On Tue, Aug 9, 2022, 10:18 AM glen  wrote:

>
> [⛧] My black PS4 controller is terribly twitchy compared to my gold one. I
> died like 5 times getting my latest Dark Souls twink started. Pfft.
>

learned a new meaning of Twink today :-)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twinking
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Re: [FRIAM] stranger than fiction

[Stephen Guerin]

Gary,

I bet that Microsoft software is for the birds.  :-)

or is your nonprofit dealing with community broadband?


On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, 8:42 AM Gary Schiltz 
wrote:

> I am the geek guy for a small nonprofit foundation here in Ecuador and I
> must say that at least a few software companies are fairly generous with
> licensing for academic and nonprofit organizations. Microsoft has been
> particularly helpful.
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 8:48 PM Jon Zingale  wrote:
>
>> """Current in silico software is only accessible to large pharmaceutical
>> companies willing to pay obnoxious licensing fees. Students in every
>> country no matter their university, startup companies to Fortune 500s, and
>> even dedicated hobbyists will all have the same opportunity to design new
>> molecules to change the future of drug discovery," said Shkreli, co-founder
>> of Druglike."""
>>
>> FWIW, my company's software is free to academics. This article hides the
>> fact that the majority of the economic barrier to entry is not licensing
>> but the cost of performing the large-scale simulations necessary to do
>> docking, md, generating conformers, or what-have-you. Drug discovery is
>> computationally hard and if AWS or whoever is going to ultimately charge
>> for compute then someone along the path will need to pay for that compute.
>> Just my two cents.
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Re: [FRIAM] Simple Trig/Geometry challenge. Win a $50 Amazon card :-)

[Stephen Guerin]

I don't know what you're experience was at Carnegie Tech / CMU, but we
don't give credit for partial work here ;-p
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On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 2:45 PM Frank Wimberly  wrote:

> Alternatively, bisect the segment S2 and draw a line from alpha to that
> point.
>
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>> Yes, that's what I was calling "splitting the slanted face" this morning.
>> Keep going... :-)
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>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 2:29 PM Frank Wimberly 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Drop a perpendicular from the alpha vertex to S2.
>>>
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>>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2022, 1:34 PM Stephen Guerin <
>>> stephen.gue...@simtable.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Today at Friam, I showed a small problem I was working on in
>>>> photogrammetry. Attached is a Netlogo visualization of the geometry of the
>>>> system.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is:  given an image where we know two star coordinates (RA,
>>>> DEC), solve for the field of view of the image. We can get the spherical
>>>> angle between the stars (alpha) and we know the principal point and two UV
>>>> coordinates in the image. These create a right triangle pyramid and I want
>>>> to solve for the height X (focal length). Here's a diagram.
>>>>
>>>> [image: rightTrianglePyramid.jpg]
>>>> Law of Cosines can get all the interior angles of the bases with S1,
>>>> S2, S3.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [FRIAM] Simple Trig/Geometry challenge. Win a $50 Amazon card :-)

[Stephen Guerin]

Yes, that's what I was calling "splitting the slanted face" this morning.
Keep going... :-)
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On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 2:29 PM Frank Wimberly  wrote:

> Drop a perpendicular from the alpha vertex to S2.
>
> ---
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> On Fri, Jul 22, 2022, 1:34 PM Stephen Guerin 
> wrote:
>
>> Today at Friam, I showed a small problem I was working on in
>> photogrammetry. Attached is a Netlogo visualization of the geometry of the
>> system.
>>
>> The problem is:  given an image where we know two star coordinates (RA,
>> DEC), solve for the field of view of the image. We can get the spherical
>> angle between the stars (alpha) and we know the principal point and two UV
>> coordinates in the image. These create a right triangle pyramid and I want
>> to solve for the height X (focal length). Here's a diagram.
>>
>> [image: rightTrianglePyramid.jpg]
>> Law of Cosines can get all the interior angles of the bases with S1, S2,
>> S3.
>>
>>
>>
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