Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfacesintoaWiki

2012-03-04 Thread Rzepa Henry

On 2 Mar 2012, at 16:54, Robert Hanson wrote:

 Well, then I propose /*file*/ within a script is adapted by MediaWiki
 to change that to a proper file name.
 
 
 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.comwrote:
 

an alternative which by-passes the file path naming problem is to load 
everything into a  .jmol file, as suggested by  Angel (thanks!). This can 
appear in the Wiki as  a link

jmolFile text=just a linkAHB_mo22.cub.jmol/jmolFile

(I have created this page for my students' use; 
http://www.ch.imperial.ac.uk/rzepa/cub2jvxl/ )

There is an issue with surface colours that we are looking at (if anyone can 
spot a fix, do please let me know). 




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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfacesintoaWiki

2012-03-02 Thread Robert Hanson
My point was that if MediaWiki would just insert the Jmol script code for
defaultDirectory in the startup script, then the user can include numerous
files with no prefix and no concern over where they are.

Bob

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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfacesintoaWiki

2012-03-02 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
I have the impression that I'm missing a point in this discussion...

The situation Henry is talking about is that he need to access several
files that have been previously uploaded to the Wiki.
When you upload several files, they usually end up in different directories
(due to the md5 hash on the name), without any way to control it.
So, I could easily add a code for defaultDirectory at the beginning of the
script (even automatically by the Jmol extension).
But my problem is to define this default directory so that it is useful :

   - there are no files in the root directory for uploads = not a good
   default directory
   - the directory where the uploaded file is (uploadedFileContents gives
   the atom coordinates file) is not the same directory where the surface file
   is = won't work to find the surface file
   - ...

Nico

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:

 My point was that if MediaWiki would just insert the Jmol script code for
 defaultDirectory in the startup script, then the user can include numerous
 files with no prefix and no concern over where they are.

 Bob


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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfacesintoaWiki

2012-03-02 Thread Angel Herráez
I agree with Nico. The location of uploades files in MW is uncertain.

The .jmol file format is in my opinion the way out of this problem: 
upload a single file with everything included.



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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfacesintoaWiki

2012-03-02 Thread Rzepa, Henry S

On 2 Mar 2012, at 13:23, Angel Herráez wrote:

 I agree with Nico. The location of uploades files in MW is uncertain.
 
 The .jmol file format is in my opinion the way out of this problem: 
 upload a single file with everything included.

A single file as a zip (the same way that  jar files are considered single 
files).  I am however intrigued that the  .jvxl file is nowadays a proper  XML 
file, and hence this can itself carry separate namespaces, amounting to 
different types of content. One can either  package eg coordinate and surface 
files into a single zip archive, or one alternatively could express these 
components as a single  XML file (which can be disentangled into its original 
components by suitable  XML parsing into a  DOM). I suppose both alternatives 
have their advantages and weaknesses.  Anyway,  Jmol adopts the former approach 
and this is what we have to find solutions for.
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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfacesintoaWiki

2012-03-02 Thread Robert Hanson
oh. never mind then. I thought they went into a specific directory. No,
that would not work


On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have the impression that I'm missing a point in this discussion...

 The situation Henry is talking about is that he need to access several
 files that have been previously uploaded to the Wiki.
 When you upload several files, they usually end up in different
 directories (due to the md5 hash on the name), without any way to control
 it.
 So, I could easily add a code for defaultDirectory at the beginning of the
 script (even automatically by the Jmol extension).
 But my problem is to define this default directory so that it is useful :

- there are no files in the root directory for uploads = not a good
default directory
- the directory where the uploaded file is (uploadedFileContents
gives the atom coordinates file) is not the same directory where the
surface file is = won't work to find the surface file
- ...

 Nico

 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:

 My point was that if MediaWiki would just insert the Jmol script code for
 defaultDirectory in the startup script, then the user can include numerous
 files with no prefix and no concern over where they are.

 Bob


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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfacesintoaWiki

2012-03-02 Thread Robert Hanson
How does MediaWiki know at all where to look for a file when the script is

load xxx.xyz

?



On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:

 oh. never mind then. I thought they went into a specific directory. No,
 that would not work



 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have the impression that I'm missing a point in this discussion...

 The situation Henry is talking about is that he need to access several
 files that have been previously uploaded to the Wiki.
 When you upload several files, they usually end up in different
 directories (due to the md5 hash on the name), without any way to control
 it.
 So, I could easily add a code for defaultDirectory at the beginning of
 the script (even automatically by the Jmol extension).
 But my problem is to define this default directory so that it is useful :

- there are no files in the root directory for uploads = not a good
default directory
- the directory where the uploaded file is (uploadedFileContents
gives the atom coordinates file) is not the same directory where the
surface file is = won't work to find the surface file
- ...

 Nico

 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:

 My point was that if MediaWiki would just insert the Jmol script code
 for defaultDirectory in the startup script, then the user can include
 numerous files with no prefix and no concern over where they are.

 Bob


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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfacesintoaWiki

2012-03-02 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
Hi Bob,

In short, it doesn't know.
When you want to display a file that has been previously uploaded, you can
use for example jmolFilexxx.xyz/jmolFile.
The PHP code of the extension knows where xxx.xyz is stored and creates the
script that works.
See examples in http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/MediaWiki/Basic_Example

Nico

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:

 How does MediaWiki know at all where to look for a file when the script is

 load xxx.xyz

 ?



 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:

 oh. never mind then. I thought they went into a specific directory. No,
 that would not work



 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have the impression that I'm missing a point in this discussion...

 The situation Henry is talking about is that he need to access several
 files that have been previously uploaded to the Wiki.
 When you upload several files, they usually end up in different
 directories (due to the md5 hash on the name), without any way to control
 it.
 So, I could easily add a code for defaultDirectory at the beginning of
 the script (even automatically by the Jmol extension).
 But my problem is to define this default directory so that it is useful :

- there are no files in the root directory for uploads = not a good
default directory
- the directory where the uploaded file is (uploadedFileContents
gives the atom coordinates file) is not the same directory where the
surface file is = won't work to find the surface file
- ...

 Nico

 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.eduwrote:

 My point was that if MediaWiki would just insert the Jmol script code
 for defaultDirectory in the startup script, then the user can include
 numerous files with no prefix and no concern over where they are.

 Bob


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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfacesintoaWiki

2012-03-02 Thread Angel Herráez
 How does MediaWiki know at all where to look for a file when the 
 script is
 
 load xxx.xyz

Probably, the script can NEVER be that. Load is managed with the Jmol 
MW Extension tags, not with scripts.

jmolFile   MW knows where to find the wiki file (handled like an 
image)
jmolPdb  external
jmolSmiles  external
uploadedFileContents  MW knows where to find the wiki file (handled 
like an image)
wikiPageContents  MW knows where to find the page
inlineContents
urlContents  external



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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfacesintoaWiki

2012-03-02 Thread Robert Hanson
Shouldn't be hard to adapt that to the way Jmol finds file names in scripts:

load /*file*/...

isosurface /*file*/.

next quoted phrase after /*file*/ needs to be replaced by full path to that
file.

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Bob,

 In short, it doesn't know.
 When you want to display a file that has been previously uploaded, you can
 use for example jmolFilexxx.xyz/jmolFile.
 The PHP code of the extension knows where xxx.xyz is stored and creates
 the script that works.
 See examples in http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/MediaWiki/Basic_Example

 Nico


 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:

 How does MediaWiki know at all where to look for a file when the script is

 load xxx.xyz

 ?



 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:

 oh. never mind then. I thought they went into a specific directory. No,
 that would not work



 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have the impression that I'm missing a point in this discussion...

 The situation Henry is talking about is that he need to access several
 files that have been previously uploaded to the Wiki.
 When you upload several files, they usually end up in different
 directories (due to the md5 hash on the name), without any way to control
 it.
 So, I could easily add a code for defaultDirectory at the beginning of
 the script (even automatically by the Jmol extension).
 But my problem is to define this default directory so that it is useful
 :

- there are no files in the root directory for uploads = not a
good default directory
- the directory where the uploaded file is (uploadedFileContents
gives the atom coordinates file) is not the same directory where the
surface file is = won't work to find the surface file
- ...

 Nico

 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.eduwrote:

 My point was that if MediaWiki would just insert the Jmol script code
 for defaultDirectory in the startup script, then the user can include
 numerous files with no prefix and no concern over where they are.

 Bob


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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfacesintoaWiki

2012-03-02 Thread Robert Hanson
no scripts at all?


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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfacesintoaWiki

2012-03-02 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
Scripts can be used as you wish, there's just the limitation with paths to
files.

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:

 no scripts at all?



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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfacesintoaWiki

2012-03-02 Thread Robert Hanson
Well, then I propose /*file*/ within a script is adapted by MediaWiki
to change that to a proper file name.


On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.comwrote:

 Scripts can be used as you wish, there's just the limitation with paths to
 files.

 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:

 no scripts at all?



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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfaces into a Wiki

2012-03-01 Thread Angel Herráez
Henry, maybe loading a .jmol file would help? It can contain the 2 
files in it, and the state script.

You probably need to allow the new file type to be uploaded to the 
wiki.




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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfaces into aWiki

2012-03-01 Thread Rzepa, Henry S

On 1 Mar 2012, at 14:24, Jaime Prilusky wrote:

 On Mar 1, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Rzepa, Henry S wrote:
 The MediaWiki extension has the following form
 Overall, this amounts to
 
 load isosurface.xyz;isosurface color orange purple isosurface.jvxl 
 translucent;
 

Yes,  putting the full filename path does work ( ie images/4/45/isosurface.jvxl 
)  but part of the reason for creating a  Mediawiki extension was to hide such 
stuff from the user (our users are students, and bright though some of them 
are, others are bound to find locating the absolute path of a file a tad too 
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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfaces into aWiki

2012-03-01 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
I think the path is a good lead.
If you check the source of the generated wiki page, you should see a path
for isosurface.xyz.
You probably need to also have the path to isosurface.jvxl, but this is not
always obvious which one to use (try Special:FilePath)

Nico

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Jaime Prilusky 
jaime.prilu...@weizmann.ac.il wrote:

 On Mar 1, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Rzepa, Henry S wrote:
 The MediaWiki extension has the following form
 Overall, this amounts to

 load isosurface.xyz;isosurface color orange purple isosurface.jvxl
 translucent;


 If your command is isosurface surfile.iso, I understand that you don't
 need to load the surfile.iso file in advance, but to provide the full path
 to the file (from the browser point of view), so the isosurface command can
 access and load the file, and render the content.

 Jaim



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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfaces into aWiki

2012-03-01 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
Ok, that confirms the explanation.

Henry,

Yes, the uploadedFileContents tag was designed to hide such complexity
from the user (the call to Special:FilePath is done internally by the
extension).
But using this for scripts would be quite complex because the extension
would have to parse the Jmol script...

If you have ideas of what syntax should be used in the extension to make
using it simple, don't hesitate.
I intend to work again on the extension some time in the future, still not
sure when.

Nico

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Rzepa, Henry S h.rz...@imperial.ac.ukwrote:


 On 1 Mar 2012, at 14:24, Jaime Prilusky wrote:

  On Mar 1, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Rzepa, Henry S wrote:
  The MediaWiki extension has the following form
  Overall, this amounts to
 
  load isosurface.xyz;isosurface color orange purple isosurface.jvxl
 translucent;
 

 Yes,  putting the full filename path does work ( ie
 images/4/45/isosurface.jvxl )  but part of the reason for creating a
  Mediawiki extension was to hide such stuff from the user (our users are
 students, and bright though some of them are, others are bound to find
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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfaces intoaWiki

2012-03-01 Thread Jaime Prilusky
On Mar 1, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Nicolas Vervelle wrote:
If you have ideas of what syntax should be used in the extension to make using 
it simple, don't hesitate.


If you keep the isosurface file together with the model file, then a simple 
isosurface tag to indicate the name of the isosurface file (not the full 
path) can be used to setup the internal default file path to the location of 
the model file, and call the load.


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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfaces intoaWiki

2012-03-01 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
Hi,

The extension doesn't manage the path in which files are stored.
Depending on the configuration, MediaWiki stores them in several separate
folders and there's no way to be sure that 2 files will end up in the same
directory.

Maybe we can group ideas/suggestions about the syntax for Jmol extension in
the talk page of  http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/MediaWiki  ?

Nico

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Jaime Prilusky 
jaime.prilu...@weizmann.ac.il wrote:

  On Mar 1, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Nicolas Vervelle wrote:
  If you have ideas of what syntax should be used in the extension to make
 using it simple, don't hesitate.


  If you keep the isosurface file together with the model file, then a
 simple isosurface tag to indicate the name of the isosurface file (not
 the full path) can be used to setup the internal default file path to the
 location of the model file, and call the load.


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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfaces intoaWiki

2012-03-01 Thread Rzepa, Henry S

On 1 Mar 2012, at 15:09, Jaime Prilusky wrote:

 On Mar 1, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Nicolas Vervelle wrote:
 If you have ideas of what syntax should be used in the extension to make 
 using it simple, don't hesitate.
 
 
 If you keep the isosurface file together with the model file, then a simple 
 isosurface tag to indicate the name of the isosurface file (not the full 
 path) can be used to setup the internal default file path to the location of 
 the model file, and call the load.
 

early versions of  .jvxl  used to include the coordinates as well as the 
surface,  but (I might have mis-understood)  the design nowadays is to keep 
these as separate files.  If of course, it is still possible to write out a 
.jvxl file with both features, that would solve the immediate problem (but not 
the general one). 
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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfaces intoaWiki

2012-03-01 Thread Robert Hanson
Couldn't you have the uploadedFileContents also set the default
directory? In face, one could imagine

uploadedFileContents/uploadedFileContents

might only set the default directory.


On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Rzepa, Henry S h.rz...@imperial.ac.ukwrote:


 On 1 Mar 2012, at 15:09, Jaime Prilusky wrote:

  On Mar 1, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Nicolas Vervelle wrote:
  If you have ideas of what syntax should be used in the extension to make
 using it simple, don't hesitate.
 
 
  If you keep the isosurface file together with the model file, then a
 simple isosurface tag to indicate the name of the isosurface file (not
 the full path) can be used to setup the internal default file path to the
 location of the model file, and call the load.
 

 early versions of  .jvxl  used to include the coordinates as well as the
 surface,  but (I might have mis-understood)  the design nowadays is to keep
 these as separate files.  If of course, it is still possible to write out a
 .jvxl file with both features, that would solve the immediate problem (but
 not the general one).

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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfaces intoaWiki

2012-03-01 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
The problem is that, depending on MediaWiki configuration, uploaded files
can end up in different directories (to avoid putting thousands of files in
the same directory)...
And the user has absolutely no control over which directory will be used
for a file.
So there's not really a possible default directory...

For example, on Jmol wiki, 1ALE.pdb is in images/e/e3 directory, while
1HPNmod.pdb is in images/4/49

Nico

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote:

 Couldn't you have the uploadedFileContents also set the default
 directory? In face, one could imagine

 uploadedFileContents/uploadedFileContents

 might only set the default directory.



 On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Rzepa, Henry S h.rz...@imperial.ac.ukwrote:


 On 1 Mar 2012, at 15:09, Jaime Prilusky wrote:

  On Mar 1, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Nicolas Vervelle wrote:
  If you have ideas of what syntax should be used in the extension to
 make using it simple, don't hesitate.
 
 
  If you keep the isosurface file together with the model file, then a
 simple isosurface tag to indicate the name of the isosurface file (not
 the full path) can be used to setup the internal default file path to the
 location of the model file, and call the load.
 

 early versions of  .jvxl  used to include the coordinates as well as the
 surface,  but (I might have mis-understood)  the design nowadays is to keep
 these as separate files.  If of course, it is still possible to write out a
 .jvxl file with both features, that would solve the immediate problem (but
 not the general one).

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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfacesintoaWiki

2012-03-01 Thread Jaime Prilusky
On Mar 1, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Nicolas Vervelle wrote:
The problem is that, depending on MediaWiki configuration, uploaded files can 
end up in different directories (to avoid putting thousands of files in the 
same directory)...
And the user has absolutely no control over which directory will be used for a 
file.
So there's not really a possible default directory...
For example, on Jmol wiki, 1ALE.pdb is in images/e/e3 directory, while 
1HPNmod.pdb is in images/4/49
Nico

Nico,

The subdirectories under images/ are computed from the md5 of the file name.

  $name = 1ALE.pdb;

  $md5= md5(ucfirst($name));

  $fullPath = images/ . substr($md5,0,1) . / . substr($md5,0,2) . / . 
ucfirst($name);

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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfacesintoaWiki

2012-03-01 Thread Angel Herráez
Hi Henry

I am senidng to you off-list a sample file I just created. That is a 
.jmol file (really a zipfile, with contents added by Jmol; I'm not 
sure if you can collate it manually).

This is the procedure I followed:

1. Load the molecule into Jmol app (I used 12.2.16)
2. Create the isosurface, color it etc.
3. Save the isosurface to disk
4. Zap
5. Load the molecule (load command or drag-and-drop)
6. Load the isosurface (isosurface command, drag-and-drop seems to 
work too)
7. Save all as .JMOL file (I did it from the popup menu)

The .jmol file generated this way include both the model and the JVXL 
files, plus extra niceties like a png, the state script and a 
manifest). I moved it to a different folder and it loads into Jmol 
with everything.

Note that if you skip step #6 and try to save with the isosurface 
just created, the file contains the command to generate it but not 
the isosurface data (as the state script included is recreating the 
history) So you must load the isosurface from disk.

So I bet this is the safest and easiest way to go for the wiki.

Good luck!







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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin: loading molecular surfacesintoaWiki

2012-03-01 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Jaime Prilusky 
jaime.prilu...@weizmann.ac.il wrote:

  On Mar 1, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Nicolas Vervelle wrote:
  The problem is that, depending on MediaWiki configuration, uploaded
 files can end up in different directories (to avoid putting thousands of
 files in the same directory)...
 And the user has absolutely no control over which directory will be used
 for a file.
 So there's not really a possible default directory...
 For example, on Jmol wiki, 1ALE.pdb is in images/e/e3 directory, while
 1HPNmod.pdb is in images/4/49
 Nico

  Nico,

  The subdirectories under images/ are computed from the md5 of the file
 name.

$name = 1ALE.pdb;

$md5= md5(ucfirst($name));

$fullPath = images/ . substr($md5,0,1) . / . substr($md5,0,2) .
 / . ucfirst($name);

  Jaim


Thanks for the information,

But, that still means there's no directory that can be set as default
directory for Jmol.

And the organization of the files depends also on the wiki configuration
(with or without md5 hash, number of characters of the md5 taken into
account) and uploads can be mixed between local and shared repository.
So having to analyze the script to change file paths is really complex...

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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

2011-12-01 Thread Kilian Baerwinkel
Nico,

I got the same in the source:

/scriptscript
src=/mediawiki/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.js?version=3.3_dev_1/scriptscript
src=/mediawiki/extensions/Jmol/JmolMediaWiki.js?version=3.3_dev_1/script/headbody

http://132.180.50.97/mediawiki/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.js  is not accessible -
but I would have expected this, as Jaime suggested to try the
COPYRIGHT.txt, and i could not access this one as well.

Best

Kilian

On 30 November 2011 14:10, Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok,

 So it seems that the extension is active (tags are correctly replaced),
 but the Jmol part doesn't work at all :(
 In one of your previous mail, you put a part of the source code of the
 page for the jmol tag.
 Can you also send the part that contains the links to the Jmol .js files,
 that is the head part ?

 For example on Jmol wiki, I have this :
 script 
 src=/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.js?version=3.3_dev_1http://wiki.jmol.org/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.js?version=3.3_dev_1
 /scriptscript src=
 /extensions/Jmol/JmolMediaWiki.js?version=3.3_dev_1http://wiki.jmol.org/extensions/Jmol/JmolMediaWiki.js?version=3.3_dev_1
 /script
 Is it correct also on your wiki ?
 It should be something like /mediawiki/Jmol/Jmol.js for you.
 Can you access the Jmol.js and JmolMediaWiki.js file through your web
 server ?
 The URL http://IP/mediawiki/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.js should be
 accessible.

 Nico

 On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Kilian Baerwinkel 
 kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.de wrote:

 Hi Nico,

 I have also tried less complex tags like  jmolPdb1ALE/jmolPdb,
 jmolfile. Both display a blue link in hte wiki, but nothing happens if
 the link is clicked.

 Jaime,

 all the files are accessible for the servers user, both owner and
 permissions are the same as for other extensions, which are working.

 Best

 Kilian



 On 29 November 2011 10:06, Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Kilian,

 Can you also try the simpler tags ?
 There are 2 sets of tags :

- a complex one, jmol, which can be used to customize a lot of
things
- several simpler tags, jmolFile, jmolPdb, jmolSmiles, which
have been added later to provide a simple interface for users

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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

2011-12-01 Thread Jaime Prilusky
Kilian,

Please check access rights to the files.

It's clear that you can access Jmol.php and Jmol_body.php, since they're are 
doing their job.
In the same directory you must have the COPYRIGHT.txt file and several others. 
Unless your browser has access to those files, the applet will not appear.

Please be sure that files inside extensions/Jmol have permissions 0644 and not 
more. Some http servers don't like files world writable.

Jaim

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Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

Nico,

I got the same in the source:

/scriptscript 
src=/mediawiki/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.js?version=3.3_dev_1/scriptscript 
src=/mediawiki/extensions/Jmol/JmolMediaWiki.js?version=3.3_dev_1/script/headbody

http://132.180.50.97/mediawiki/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.js  is not accessible - but 
I would have expected this, as Jaime suggested to try the COPYRIGHT.txt, and i 
could not access this one as well.

Best

Kilian

On 30 November 2011 14:10, Nicolas Vervelle 
nverve...@gmail.commailto:nverve...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok,

So it seems that the extension is active (tags are correctly replaced), but the 
Jmol part doesn't work at all :(
In one of your previous mail, you put a part of the source code of the page for 
the jmol tag.
Can you also send the part that contains the links to the Jmol .js files, that 
is the head part ?

For example on Jmol wiki, I have this :
script 
src=/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.js?version=3.3_dev_1http://wiki.jmol.org/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.js?version=3.3_dev_1/scriptscript
 
src=/extensions/Jmol/JmolMediaWiki.js?version=3.3_dev_1http://wiki.jmol.org/extensions/Jmol/JmolMediaWiki.js?version=3.3_dev_1/script
Is it correct also on your wiki ?
It should be something like /mediawiki/Jmol/Jmol.js for you.
Can you access the Jmol.js and JmolMediaWiki.js file through your web server ?
The URL http://IP/mediawiki/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.js should be accessible.

Nico

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Kilian Baerwinkel 
kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.demailto:kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.de 
wrote:
Hi Nico,

I have also tried less complex tags like  jmolPdb1ALE/jmolPdb, jmolfile. 
Both display a blue link in hte wiki, but nothing happens if the link is 
clicked.

Jaime,

all the files are accessible for the servers user, both owner and permissions 
are the same as for other extensions, which are working.

Best

Kilian



On 29 November 2011 10:06, Nicolas Vervelle 
nverve...@gmail.commailto:nverve...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Kilian,

Can you also try the simpler tags ?
There are 2 sets of tags :

  *   a complex one, jmol, which can be used to customize a lot of things
  *   several simpler tags, jmolFile, jmolPdb, jmolSmiles, which have 
been added later to provide a simple interface for users

Nico



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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

2011-12-01 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
Kilian,

I think you have a problem in your MW setup, because the file Jmol.js must
be accessible.
For example, on Jmol wiki, http://wiki.jmol.org/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.js
 works.
It must be accessible otherwise, the HTML page can't retrieve the
Javascript functions that are necessary for Jmol.

On which OS is your MW ?
Have you checked that path name is correctly spelled, including
capitalization ?

Nico

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Kilian Baerwinkel 
kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.de wrote:

 Nico,

 I got the same in the source:

 /scriptscript
 src=/mediawiki/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.js?version=3.3_dev_1/scriptscript
 src=/mediawiki/extensions/Jmol/JmolMediaWiki.js?version=3.3_dev_1/script/headbody

 http://132.180.50.97/mediawiki/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.js  is not accessible
 - but I would have expected this, as Jaime suggested to try the
 COPYRIGHT.txt, and i could not access this one as well.

 Best

 Kilian

 On 30 November 2011 14:10, Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok,

 So it seems that the extension is active (tags are correctly replaced),
 but the Jmol part doesn't work at all :(
 In one of your previous mail, you put a part of the source code of the
 page for the jmol tag.
 Can you also send the part that contains the links to the Jmol .js files,
 that is the head part ?

 For example on Jmol wiki, I have this :
 script 
 src=/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.js?version=3.3_dev_1http://wiki.jmol.org/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.js?version=3.3_dev_1
 /scriptscript src=
 /extensions/Jmol/JmolMediaWiki.js?version=3.3_dev_1http://wiki.jmol.org/extensions/Jmol/JmolMediaWiki.js?version=3.3_dev_1
 /script
 Is it correct also on your wiki ?
 It should be something like /mediawiki/Jmol/Jmol.js for you.
 Can you access the Jmol.js and JmolMediaWiki.js file through your web
 server ?
 The URL http://IP/mediawiki/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.js should be
 accessible.

 Nico

 On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Kilian Baerwinkel 
 kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.de wrote:

 Hi Nico,

 I have also tried less complex tags like  jmolPdb1ALE/jmolPdb,
 jmolfile. Both display a blue link in hte wiki, but nothing happens if
 the link is clicked.

 Jaime,

 all the files are accessible for the servers user, both owner and
 permissions are the same as for other extensions, which are working.

 Best

 Kilian



 On 29 November 2011 10:06, Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Kilian,

 Can you also try the simpler tags ?
 There are 2 sets of tags :

- a complex one, jmol, which can be used to customize a lot of
things
- several simpler tags, jmolFile, jmolPdb, jmolSmiles, which
have been added later to provide a simple interface for users

 Nico




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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

2011-12-01 Thread Kilian Baerwinkel
Hi,

I really dont get it...

a normal page on the wiki looks like  http://
IP/mediawiki/index.php/Special:Version

and in the source, there is /scriptscript src=/mediawiki/extensions/
Jmol/Jmol.js?version=3.3_dev_1

so i assume, it should be possible to access Jmo.js via http://
IP/mediawiki/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.js

But i simply cant

I tried for another extension, its the same problem. Example Is UserMerge,
which can be used exactly as it should but i cannot access http://
IP/mediawiki/extensions/UserMerge/UserMerge.php.

I will have to look into this

Kilian
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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

2011-12-01 Thread Jaime Prilusky
Killian,

On your test, try always to access a plain text, html or image file (.txt, 
.html, .png, .gif)

Files ending on .php will get a different treatment on the server side and many 
times you will be unable to see them from a browser.

Jaim
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From: Kilian Baerwinkel 
kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.demailto:kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.de
Reply-To: 
jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 11:02:21 +0100
To: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

Hi,

I really dont get it...

a normal page on the wiki looks like  
http://IP/mediawiki/index.php/Special:Version

and in the source, there is /scriptscript 
src=/mediawiki/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.js?version=3.3_dev_1

so i assume, it should be possible to access Jmo.js via 
http://IP/mediawiki/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.js

But i simply cant

I tried for another extension, its the same problem. Example Is UserMerge, 
which can be used exactly as it should but i cannot access 
http://IP/mediawiki/extensions/UserMerge/UserMerge.php.

I will have to look into this

Kilian
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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

2011-12-01 Thread Kilian Baerwinkel
Jaim,

its exactly the same. This is what i get:

 Not Found

The requested URL /mediawiki/extensions/UserMerge/blubb.txt was not found
on this server.


- same as for jmol files. Btw, rights are set as you told me (as for all
other extensions).

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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

2011-12-01 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
Kilian,

The problem may be due to your web server configuration then (accessing of
text file is only done through web server not MW software).

What is your web server ? (Apache HTTPD, ...)
What version ?
On which OS ?
What is the content of your configuration files ?
Can you try putting the .txt file at different levels in the directory
hierarchy and see if it works at some levels ?

Nico


On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Kilian Baerwinkel 
kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.de wrote:

 Jaim,

 its exactly the same. This is what i get:

  Not Found

 The requested URL /mediawiki/extensions/UserMerge/blubb.txt was not found
 on this server.


 - same as for jmol files. Btw, rights are set as you told me (as for all
 other extensions).

 Kilian


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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

2011-12-01 Thread Jaime Prilusky
Strange.

Can you retrieve http://YOUR_IP/mediawiki/README and 
http://YOUR_IP/mediawiki/extensions/README ?

Those files are part of a default MediaWiki installation and should be there.

If you're running on linux, it could be a SELinux problem. Try to disable 
temporarily SELinux

echo 0 /selinux/enforce

And after testing Jmol, you can enable it again with

echo 1 /selinux/enforce

Jaim
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From: Kilian Baerwinkel 
kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.demailto:kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.de
Reply-To: 
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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 12:09:54 +0100
To: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

Jaim,

its exactly the same. This is what i get:

 Not Found

The requested URL /mediawiki/extensions/UserMerge/blubb.txt was not found on 
this server.


- same as for jmol files. Btw, rights are set as you told me (as for all other 
extensions).

Kilian
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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

2011-12-01 Thread Kilian Baerwinkel
Nico,

sorry for double posting. The OS is Ubuntu Server. And I cannot access the
INSTALL file of the mediawiki itself, which is perfectly possible on the
jmol wiki.
There is something quite wrong here.,..

Best

Kilian
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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

2011-12-01 Thread Kilian Baerwinkel
Hi,

Oh man I think i got it...

Mediawiki on Ubuntu is split over three directories: /etc/mediawiki and
/etc/mediawiki-extensions, /usr/share/mediawiki and
/usr/share/mediawiki-extensions, /usr/share/mediawiki and
/usr/share/mediawiki-extensions and /var/lib/mediawiki.

Files are only  directly accessibleis present or linked to the folders
residing in var/lib.

I linked the Jmol extension into /var/lib/mediawiki from
/usr/share/mediawiki-extensions.
Now it seems to work, at least the applet displays a molecule...


So sorry for stealing you time that long. I really appreciate all your help.

Best

Kilian

On 1 December 2011 12:43, Kilian Baerwinkel 
kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.de wrote:

 Nico,

 sorry for double posting. The OS is Ubuntu Server. And I cannot access the
 INSTALL file of the mediawiki itself, which is perfectly possible on the
 jmol wiki.
 There is something quite wrong here.,..

 Best

 Kilian




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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

2011-12-01 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
No problem,

Enjoy playing with the extension.
I hope to be able to work on it again soon.

Nico

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Kilian Baerwinkel 
kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.de wrote:

 Hi,

 Oh man I think i got it...

 Mediawiki on Ubuntu is split over three directories: /etc/mediawiki and
 /etc/mediawiki-extensions, /usr/share/mediawiki and
 /usr/share/mediawiki-extensions, /usr/share/mediawiki and
 /usr/share/mediawiki-extensions and /var/lib/mediawiki.

 Files are only  directly accessibleis present or linked to the folders
 residing in var/lib.

 I linked the Jmol extension into /var/lib/mediawiki from
 /usr/share/mediawiki-extensions.
 Now it seems to work, at least the applet displays a molecule...


 So sorry for stealing you time that long. I really appreciate all your
 help.

 Best

 Kilian


 On 1 December 2011 12:43, Kilian Baerwinkel 
 kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.de wrote:

 Nico,

 sorry for double posting. The OS is Ubuntu Server. And I cannot access
 the INSTALL file of the mediawiki itself, which is perfectly possible on
 the jmol wiki.
 There is something quite wrong here.,..

 Best

 Kilian




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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

2011-11-30 Thread Kilian Baerwinkel
Hi Nico,

I have also tried less complex tags like  jmolPdb1ALE/jmolPdb,
jmolfile. Both display a blue link in hte wiki, but nothing happens if
the link is clicked.

Jaime,

all the files are accessible for the servers user, both owner and
permissions are the same as for other extensions, which are working.

Best

Kilian



On 29 November 2011 10:06, Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Kilian,

 Can you also try the simpler tags ?
 There are 2 sets of tags :

- a complex one, jmol, which can be used to customize a lot of things
- several simpler tags, jmolFile, jmolPdb, jmolSmiles, which
have been added later to provide a simple interface for users

 Nico

 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Kilian Baerwinkel 
 kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.de wrote:

 Hi Nico,

 The wiki is available via  http://IP/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page

  I thought it should work, yes :-)

 I am more inclined to what Jaime mentioned - it seems that our wiki does
 not find the Jmol to execute - which is weird, as it gets the jmol tag.

 Thanks

 Kilian


 On 28 November 2011 15:50, Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Kilian,

 The current Jmol extension under SVN should be working with MW 1.16 (it
 works on Jmol wiki with MW 1.16.2).
 The fix suggested by Jaime is indeed needed for MW 1.17 (but in line 827
 and others I believe).

 Can you confirm that your wiki is accessible through an URL looking like
 http://x/mediawiki/ ?

 I will probably have some time available this weekend or the end of next
 week to look into some problems.

 Nico


 On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Kilian Baerwinkel 
 kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.de wrote:

 Jaime,

 I can not access the Copyright test.

 But I am not sure I get your suggestion - the Jmol files are all in one
 directory /extensions/Jmol, within the mediawiki directory, together with
 the mediawiki extension files.

 That being said, there is no directory named jmol-12.2.6...

 Best

 Kilian



 On 24 November 2011 20:41, Jaime Prilusky 
 jaime.prilu...@weizmann.ac.il wrote:

   Kilian,

  If you enter this URL on a browser (replace 'YourServerHere' with
 the name of your server, localhost, etc), can you read the Copyright text?

  http://YouServerHere/mediawiki/extensions/Jmol/COPYRIGHT.txt

  If not, please either rename jmol-12.2.6 as Jmol or make a
 link/alias as needed.

  Jaim
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 RD Bioinformatics and Data Management
 Department of Biological Services
 Weizmann Institute of Science
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  mail: jaime.prilu...@weizmann.ac.il
 tel: 972-8-9344959
 fax: 972-8-9344113

  OCA, http://oca.weizmann.ac.il (the protein structure/function
 database)
 Proteopedia, http://proteopedia.org (because life has more than 2D)

   From: Kilian Baerwinkel kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.de
 Reply-To: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 18:34:12 +0100

 To: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

  Hi,

  I am talking of the mediawiki extension, yes, the version is 3.3_dev.

  Also using:

  MediaWiki  1.16.5
 PHP  5.3.5-1ubuntu7.3 (apache2handler)
 MySQL  5.1.54-1ubuntu4


  I have tested various versions of Jmol, at the moment I use 12.2.6
 (which is running all right for itself).

  On an empty page, there is the following code:

  jmol
  jmolApplet
 size150/size
 inlineContents
 REMARK   Butane
 HETATM1  C   UNK 0  -0.769   0.000   0.000 C
 HETATM2  C   UNK 0   0.769   0.000   0.000 C
 HETATM3  C   UNK 0  -1.383  -0.728   1.203 C
 HETATM4  C   UNK 0   1.382  -0.741   1.196 C
 HETATM5  H   UNK 0  -1.127   1.059   0.007 H
 HETATM6  H   UNK 0  -1.142  -0.461  -0.945 H
 HETATM7  H   UNK 0  -1.001  -0.311   2.163 H
 HETATM8  H   UNK 0   1.128  -0.488  -0.940 H
 HETATM9  H   UNK 0   1.143   1.051  -0.017 H
 HETATM   10  H   UNK 0  -2.493  -0.625   1.206 H
 HETATM   11  H   UNK 0  -1.156  -1.818   1.183 H
 HETATM   12  H   UNK 0   2.492  -0.792   1.105 H
 HETATM   13  H   UNK 0   1.155  -0.230   2.158 H
 HETATM   14  H   UNK 0   1.000  -1.787   1.259 H
 END
 /inlineContents
   /jmolApplet
 /jmol

  jmolFileMIL53_mimik_Loiseau.xyz/jmolFile



  The source code of the page then shows this section, which I take
 for the jmol part:

  pa href=javascript:void(0)
 onclick=jmolWikiPopupWindow('test.xyz','800','50','50','jmolInitialize(\'/mediawiki/extensions/Jmol\',
 false); _jmol.noEval = true; jmolCheckBrowser(\'popup\',
 \'/mediawiki/extensions/Jmol/browsercheck\', \'onclick\'); jmolApplet( 
 500,
 \'set echo p 50% 50%;set echo p center;echo Loading...;refresh;load
 /mediawiki/images/c/c9/test.xyz;\' ); ');test.xyz/a/p
 pbr!-- Jmol --script type=text/javascript
 //![CDATA

Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

2011-11-30 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
Ok,

So it seems that the extension is active (tags are correctly replaced), but
the Jmol part doesn't work at all :(
In one of your previous mail, you put a part of the source code of the page
for the jmol tag.
Can you also send the part that contains the links to the Jmol .js files,
that is the head part ?

For example on Jmol wiki, I have this :
script 
src=/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.js?version=3.3_dev_1http://wiki.jmol.org/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.js?version=3.3_dev_1
/scriptscript
src=/extensions/Jmol/JmolMediaWiki.js?version=3.3_dev_1http://wiki.jmol.org/extensions/Jmol/JmolMediaWiki.js?version=3.3_dev_1
/script
Is it correct also on your wiki ?
It should be something like /mediawiki/Jmol/Jmol.js for you.
Can you access the Jmol.js and JmolMediaWiki.js file through your web
server ?
The URL http://IP/mediawiki/extensions/Jmol/Jmol.js should be accessible.

Nico

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Kilian Baerwinkel 
kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.de wrote:

 Hi Nico,

 I have also tried less complex tags like  jmolPdb1ALE/jmolPdb,
 jmolfile. Both display a blue link in hte wiki, but nothing happens if
 the link is clicked.

 Jaime,

 all the files are accessible for the servers user, both owner and
 permissions are the same as for other extensions, which are working.

 Best

 Kilian



 On 29 November 2011 10:06, Nicolas Vervelle nverve...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Kilian,

 Can you also try the simpler tags ?
 There are 2 sets of tags :

- a complex one, jmol, which can be used to customize a lot of
things
- several simpler tags, jmolFile, jmolPdb, jmolSmiles, which
have been added later to provide a simple interface for users

 Nico



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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

2011-11-24 Thread Jaime Prilusky
On line 833 of the file Jmol.body.php remove the '' from the third parameter 
of the function jmolTag()

Jaim
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From: Kilian Baerwinkel 
kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.demailto:kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.de
Reply-To: 
jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 14:15:24 +0100
To: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

Dear all,

I am trying to use Jmol within our Wiki. I have installed the Mediawiki 
extension according to the documentation, placing both the source files of the 
extension and the files of Jmol in a Jmol folder within the extensions folder 
of mediawiki.

Having set
require_once(extensions/Jmol/Jmol.php);
the source code of an applet is no longer displayed, so the parser seems so 
acknowledge the presence of known tags,but no applet is displayed.

Did anyone come across this issue, or does anyone see an obvious mistake of 
mine?

Many thanks for your help

Kilian Baerwinkel



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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

2011-11-24 Thread Kilian Baerwinkel
Hello Jaime

Thank you very much for your answer... On line 833, there was no  at the
third parameter, but i fond some more $parser and removed the . This did
not make the applet appear, but now i can see a link if I insert a
jmolfile. Still nothing happens if the link is clicked.

Any ideas?

Best

Kilian

On 24 November 2011 14:34, Jaime Prilusky jaime.prilu...@weizmann.ac.ilwrote:

   On line 833 of the file Jmol.body.php remove the '' from the third
 parameter of the function jmolTag()

  Jaim
 --
Dr Jaime Prilusky
 Head Bioinformatics
 RD Bioinformatics and Data Management
 Department of Biological Services
 Weizmann Institute of Science
 76100 Rehovot – Israel

  mail: jaime.prilu...@weizmann.ac.il
 tel: 972-8-9344959
 fax: 972-8-9344113

  OCA, http://oca.weizmann.ac.il (the protein structure/function database)
 Proteopedia, http://proteopedia.org (because life has more than 2D)

   From: Kilian Baerwinkel kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.de
 Reply-To: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 14:15:24 +0100
 To: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

  Dear all,

  I am trying to use Jmol within our Wiki. I have installed the Mediawiki
 extension according to the documentation, placing both the source files of
 the extension and the files of Jmol in a Jmol folder within the extensions
 folder of mediawiki.

  Having set
 require_once(extensions/Jmol/Jmol.php);
 the source code of an applet is no longer displayed, so the parser seems
 so acknowledge the presence of known tags,but no applet is displayed.

  Did anyone come across this issue, or does anyone see an obvious mistake
 of mine?

  Many thanks for your help

  Kilian Baerwinkel



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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

2011-11-24 Thread Jaime Prilusky

Take a look to your web server error log file. Sometimes PHP errors appear 
there and you may learn something from that.

Look to the source of the wiki generated page to see if the structure of the 
jmolApplet makes sense.

Create a really simple page with only an applet, no links nor text and try to 
make it work.

Jaim
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Head Bioinformatics
RD Bioinformatics and Data Management
Department of Biological Services
Weizmann Institute of Science
76100 Rehovot – Israel

mail: jaime.prilu...@weizmann.ac.il
tel: 972-8-9344959
fax: 972-8-9344113

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Proteopedia, http://proteopedia.org (because life has more than 2D)

From: Kilian Baerwinkel 
kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.demailto:kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.de
Reply-To: 
jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 15:23:43 +0100
To: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

Hello Jaime

Thank you very much for your answer... On line 833, there was no  at the third 
parameter, but i fond some more $parser and removed the . This did not make 
the applet appear, but now i can see a link if I insert a jmolfile. Still 
nothing happens if the link is clicked.

Any ideas?

Best

Kilian

On 24 November 2011 14:34, Jaime Prilusky 
jaime.prilu...@weizmann.ac.ilmailto:jaime.prilu...@weizmann.ac.il wrote:
On line 833 of the file Jmol.body.php remove the '' from the third parameter 
of the function jmolTag()

Jaim
--
Dr Jaime Prilusky
Head Bioinformatics
RD Bioinformatics and Data Management
Department of Biological Services
Weizmann Institute of Science
76100 Rehovot – Israel

mail: jaime.prilu...@weizmann.ac.ilmailto:jaime.prilu...@weizmann.ac.il
tel: 972-8-9344959
fax: 972-8-9344113

OCA, http://oca.weizmann.ac.il (the protein structure/function database)
Proteopedia, http://proteopedia.org (because life has more than 2D)

From: Kilian Baerwinkel 
kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.demailto:kilian.baerwin...@uni-bayreuth.de
Reply-To: 
jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 14:15:24 +0100
To: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

Dear all,

I am trying to use Jmol within our Wiki. I have installed the Mediawiki 
extension according to the documentation, placing both the source files of the 
extension and the files of Jmol in a Jmol folder within the extensions folder 
of mediawiki.

Having set
require_once(extensions/Jmol/Jmol.php);
the source code of an applet is no longer displayed, so the parser seems so 
acknowledge the presence of known tags,but no applet is displayed.

Did anyone come across this issue, or does anyone see an obvious mistake of 
mine?

Many thanks for your help

Kilian Baerwinkel



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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

2011-11-24 Thread Angel Herráez
Hello Kilian

First, to be sure, please confirm that you are using the Jmol 
Mediawiki Extension and what version it is.

Also, version of MediaWiki may be of relevance.

You mention a jmolfile tag but that is not included in v.3.3 which 
is the one documented at the Jmol Wiki.
So I guess you are using the newer version at mediawiki.org (I'm not 
familiar with that one)


We are a bit behind on documentation, I see  :-(




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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

2011-11-24 Thread Angel Herráez
Hi Jaime

Do you think that is something that needs a permanent bug fix, or is 
it just a per-case solution?

El 24 Nov 2011 a las 13:34, Jaime  Prilusky escribió:
 On line 833 of the file Jmol.body.php remove the '' from the third 
 parameter of the functionjmolTag()


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Re: [Jmol-users] MediaWiki Plugin

2011-11-24 Thread Jaime Prilusky
Dear Angel,

You are completely right in asking first more information on versions,
before suggesting solutions :-)

We are, at this time, testing the latest stable Jmol (12.2.6) with the
latest stable MediaWiki (1.17.0) and found a problem similar to what
Kilian described, so I suggested the fix that worked for us, without
requesting additional details on Kilian configuration.

I have not enough information as to say if this change should be made
permanent, and what will happen if the 'fixed' Jmol extension is run on a
previous MediaWiki version. What's clear is that some research is required.

Best Regards,
Jaim
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On 24/11/2011 6:27 PM, Angel Herráez angel.herr...@uah.es wrote:

Hi Jaime

Do you think that is something that needs a permanent bug fix, or is
it just a per-case solution?

El 24 Nov 2011 a las 13:34, Jaime  Prilusky escribió:
 On line 833 of the file Jmol.body.php remove the '' from the third
 parameter of the functionjmolTag()


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